Yo_Foo Plays Super Mario Galaxy - Why PS3 Shouldn't Be Frightened

I'll begin my slow and calculated dissection of your incredibly flawed thinking by pointing out the following:

A) SMG is the second highest rated game on GameRankings, and is marked as having received "universal acclaim" by Metacritic.

B) It has won GOTY at many sites and gaming magazines, including GameSpot, which it also received a 9.5 from, a score that no PS3 exclusive game has even come within .5 of, to date.

C) It has sold very well.

D) Your opinion of the game is rendered irrelevant in the face of these facts. This post was better suited for a blog.

E) You dissapoint me, Yo_Foo. And to think that some on this board regard you as a legend... :?

jethrovegas

I'm not going to debate the critics views of the game. This isn't what the thread was about. My opinions however are actually relevant as a lot of people seem to state they are advantages to difficulty rather than actual difficulty in regards to levels and gameplay and things. Critics can say whatever they like about a game it doesn't mean its true. Suddenly everyone blindly biased towards their favourite console listens to critics now when they are stating how good a game is then turn the other cheek when Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess gets a low score stating they 'do not know what they are talking about' come on it doesn't work both ways.

Nintendo Wii aimed to make gaming different but instead changed the style of the console but not the style of the games. This post was not better suited to a blog. And i don't care if i disappoint you because people with high credibility regard me as a legend. After your 'tried to call ownage before my reply' style posting...i think it's going to be hard for you get that credibility back :P.

But I'm hoping you don't disappoint me!

:'(

So I guess you could say Mario is no longer relevant

yo_foo

• How many AAA and AAAA reviews does a game need to be relevant?
• How many GOTY Awards does a game need to be relevant?
• How many millions of copies does a game need to sell to be relevant?

Again spot on. Mario Galaxy is basically the same game as Mario 64. For true innovation you have to loos at Ratchet and Clank on PS3.

the_h_bomb

*Stares in disbelief*

Actually R & C: ToD was widely criticised for it's overall lack of innovation and general similarity to previous R & C titles.

But you already knew that, didn't you?

[QUOTE="yo_foo"]

A friend of mine who loved Super Mario Galaxy told me - "the game itself is pretty much like Super Mario 64. The graphics are pretty much close to the same. The only difference is the addition of the Wiimote. The developers have made the game tricky by making the game's camera angles very poor and the game's wii mote controls very sluggish..."

the_h_bomb

Good point. I would even say the graphics are worse than Mario 64. People just get fooled because it's in space. The game itself seems very simple as well. I reckon it could be completely in unter 2 hours if it weren't for the camera angles and sluggish wii controls

Nintendo are pretty tricky

So I guess you could say Mario is no longer relevant - SM64 was a turning point in platformers. It added something different and even though i didn't like it - i could respect it. SMG pretty much just plays on the same repetitive style you've seen in other platformers nowadays that it pretty much seems like an all you can eat buffet plate. All the styles seem to have been done before.

The only cool side to the game though is the whole reverse side to worlds. However you can't really get a good look at them as the camera angles are shocking.

:'(

yo_foo

Again spot on. Mario Galaxy is basically the same game as Mario 64. For true innovation you have to loos at Ratchet and Clank on PS3.

:lol: Please tell me you're not serious...

...you're kidding, right? :|

sounds to me like your brain is on backwardsair_wolf_cubed

I...don't think so.

:'(

Good point. I would even say the graphics are worse than Mario 64. People just get fooled because it's in space. The game itself seems very simple as well. I reckon it could be completely in unter 2 hours if it weren't for the camera angles and sluggish wii controls

Nintendo are pretty tricky

the_h_bomb

You really can't make posts like these and at the same time complain about why you are getting modded in SW. You know well that the game doesn't have worst visuals then Mario 64 even if you are being sarcastic.

So as you can see from the title - I played SMG. I played it with my friend's son. And all I can say is WOW.

WOW - why do people believe this is one of the greatest games ever?

Constant problems I've had with the Wii that I haven't had with a PS3 are sensory problems. Just thinking about Wii Sports makes my blood boil. In SMG however - the sensor can be sensitive when you don't want mario to spin and irresponsive when you want Mario to spin. My blood doesn't boil, it freezes.

Just when you think my blood could be salvaged - it is hit with a huge metal hammer due to the terrible and shocking camera angles. Something I've noticed in comparison to the Wii and the PS3 is that problem. Wii seem to exploit (especially SMG) the terrible and awkward camera angles during gameplay. The PS3's camera angles during gameplay seem so smooth, so perfect. In fact - if the PS3 were to release a game like SMG - they would have made it a lot easier to operate.

People say the game is hard - however this is only because everything is so awkward to use. That shouldn't be counted towards the generally difficulty of the gameplay because it doesn't make you want to play or it isn't fun.

PS3 need not be frigtened.

:'(

yo_foo

What does hardware have to do with camera angles? Correct me if I'm wrong but that's totally software based.

I actually did intend this to be more of a statement in relation to PS3 rather than SMG itself.

I write something long nowadays - people don't read and just post "didn't read. But here's where you are wrong..."

I write something small so that way people can jump in and make me expand a little more instead of amking me repeat myself.

:'(

yo_foo

...I'd read it.

C'mon, man... where's the paragraphs of Nintendo bashing that we all know you for? Where's the praising of PS3 to no end? Are you *gasp* running out of steam?!

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]sounds to me like your brain is on backwardsyo_foo

I...don't think so.

:'(

I'm not going to debate the critics views of the game. This isn't what the thread was about. My opinions however are actually relevant as a lot of people seem to state they are advantages to difficulty rather than actual difficulty in regards to levels and gameplay and things.

:'(

yo_foo

Woah, woah, woah.

When did people say that it was good that the game was difficult because of sluggish controls or a poor camera? I haven't seen anybody say that in this thread, or anywhere else.

I agree with you that artificially creating difficulty through poor controls is a bad way of increasing difficulty, but SMG doesn't do that. Can you point me to anybody who believes that it does so, besides your friend? Otherwise, you're rebutting an argument that nobody has made.

[QUOTE="yo_foo"]

So I guess you could say Mario is no longer relevant

Blackbond

• How many AAA and AAAA reviews does a game need to be relevant?
• How many GOTY Awards does a game need to be relevant?
• How many millions of copies does a game need to sell to be relevant?

Again Blackbond jumping in without a full understanding in what I am saying. Sure the game picked up a lot of awards - I'm happy for it. I really am, don't get me wrong. Any game that can bring enough joy to millions of children worldwide has GOT to be worth something. You seem to have only quoted that one statement - taking my quote out of context. If what i said was considered relevance by a lot of users than yes - Mario himself is considered irrelevant. However platformers themselves are still slightly relevant to get children into the magic of gaming.

This is no 'Wii is teh kiddy' statement. Don't take me as that desperate. Think of it more as a blessing for children. I know when my child gets old enough to play games - a game like this one would be on the top of my list to give it. Thus thats why it deserves to be rewarded.

However people like me who have grown up with Mario feel that we've seen him so many times - and thus the similarities SMG has to not only SM64 and other platformers nowadays makes it feel irrelevant.

:'(

what a terrible thread.

"The PS3's camera angles during gameplay seem so smooth, so perfect."

Such a funny line.

Awful, just awful. Where are the real trolls?

Awful, just awful. Where are the real trolls?

strudel420

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]

So I guess you could say Mario is no longer relevant

yo_foo

• How many AAA and AAAA reviews does a game need to be relevant?
• How many GOTY Awards does a game need to be relevant?
• How many millions of copies does a game need to sell to be relevant?

Again Blackbond jumping in without a full understanding in what I am saying. Sure the game picked up a lot of awards - I'm happy for it. I really am, don't get me wrong. Any game that can bring enough joy to millions of children worldwide has GOT to be worth something. You seem to have only quoted that one statement - taking my quote out of context. If what i said was considered relevance by a lot of users than yes - Mario himself is considered irrelevant. However platformers themselves are still slightly relevant to get children into the magic of gaming.

This is no 'Wii is teh kiddy' statement. Don't take me as that desperate. Think of it more as a blessing for children. I know when my child gets old enough to play games - a game like this one would be on the top of my list to give it. Thus thats why it deserves to be rewarded.

However people like me who have grown up with Mario feel that we've seen him so many times - and thus the similarities SMG has to not only SM64 and other platformers nowadays makes it feel irrelevant.

:'(

Its a simple question that requires a simple answer. How many AAA and AAAA reviews does a game need to be relevant? How many GOTY's does a game need to be relevant. How many millions does a game need to sell to be relevant. Since your the wone saying Mario is no longer relevant I'd like to know the criteria for a game to be relevant.

The rest of your post has no baring on my question it just takes it into a completely different place all together.

I'm not going to debate the critics views of the game. This isn't what the thread was about.My opinions however are actually relevant as a lot of people seem to state they are advantages to difficulty rather than actual difficulty in regards to levels and gameplay and things. Critics can say whatever they like about a game it doesn't mean its true. Suddenly everyone blindly biased towards their favourite console listens to critics now when they are stating how good a game is then turn the other cheek when Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess gets a low score stating they 'do not know what they are talking about' come on it doesn't work both ways.

Nintendo Wii aimed to make gaming different but instead changed the ****of the console but not the ****of the games. This post was not better suited to a blog. And i don't care if i disappoint you because people with high credibility regard me as a legend. After your 'tried to call ownage before my reply' ****posting...i think it's going to be hard for you get that credibility back :P.

But I'm hoping you don't disappoint me!

:'(

yo_foo

You made this thread about more than your opinions when you stated that the PS3 had nothing to worry about in the OP.

Yes it was. This thread was your personal opinion about a game with a dose of fanboy thrown in for good measure.

I don't have to call ownage at all. You pretended to be dead, and then you came back and started making threads of as low quality as this. I think you've pretty much called ownage on yourself. :?

But thanks for the vote of confidence anyways...

Nothing suspect about it. Yo_Foo is a courageous visionary. His campaign to spread the truth about Mario Galaxy is the system wars equivalant of the civil rights movement

the_h_bomb

No doubt about it. The resurgence of PS3 users to this forum is all thanks to my strong leadership. I came to this forum during the last days of the strong Cow hold. I rose to power during the dark days for cows and thus this has made me a stronger person and one of the most credible and respected posters on this forum. Though most new people hear do not realise this because they have been in the majority since joining. Kudos to you and your analogy h bomb!

:'(

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

Nothing suspect about it. Yo_Foo is a courageous visionary. His campaign to spread the truth about Mario Galaxy is the system wars equivalant of the civil rights movement

yo_foo

No doubt about it. The resurgence of PS3 users to this forum is all thanks to my strong leadership. I came to this forum during the last days of the strong Cow hold. I rose to power during the dark days for cows and thus this has made me a stronger person and one of the most credible and respected posters on this forum. Though most new people hear do not realise this because they have been in the majority since joining. Kudos to you and your analogy h bomb!

:'(

:lol: Please tell me you're not serious...

...you're kidding, right? :|

BioShockOwnz

Ratchet and clank has flying sections and side scrolling levels for the first time in a platformer. It also has amazing controls with the superior sixaxis motion sensitive technology. I'm 100% serious

You really can't make posts like these and at the same time complain about why you are getting modded in SW. You know well that the game doesn't have worst visuals then Mario 64 even if you are being sarcastic.

Blackbond

[QUOTE="yo_foo"]

So as you can see from the title - I played SMG. I played it with my friend's son. And all I can say is WOW.

WOW - why do people believe this is one of the greatest games ever?

Constant problems I've had with the Wii that I haven't had with a PS3 are sensory problems. Just thinking about Wii Sports makes my blood boil. In SMG however - the sensor can be sensitive when you don't want mario to spin and irresponsive when you want Mario to spin. My blood doesn't boil, it freezes.

Just when you think my blood could be salvaged - it is hit with a huge metal hammer due to the terrible and shocking camera angles. Something I've noticed in comparison to the Wii and the PS3 is that problem. Wii seem to exploit (especially SMG) the terrible and awkward camera angles during gameplay. The PS3's camera angles during gameplay seem so smooth, so perfect. In fact - if the PS3 were to release a game like SMG - they would have made it a lot easier to operate.

People say the game is hard - however this is only because everything is so awkward to use. That shouldn't be counted towards the generally difficulty of the gameplay because it doesn't make you want to play or it isn't fun.

PS3 need not be frigtened.

:'(

Slyprince

lol

That would fit perfectly into the "System Wars Facts" section. I can see it now:

Games on the PS3 have better camera angles for the sole reason that they're on the PS3

:lol:

Yo_Foo, what are your favorite games? Top 10 maybe?II-FBIsniper-II

1. Deus Ex
2. Duke Nukem 3D
3. GTA: San Andreas
4. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
5. Secret of Mana
6. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
7. Age of Mythology
8. Half-Life
9. Deus Ex 2
10. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

:'(

super mario galaxy dosen't look much better than super mario 64

the_h_bomb

H bomb...you just lost the tiny shread of respect darkspineslayer had for you, darkspineslayer directs your attention to the following pics.

super mario 64

super mario galaxy

your fission was just mailed.

Oh goody, Yo_Foo's back! :roll:

Mind explaining to me how the PS3 can make a game's carera smooth and perfect without the programmer doing it?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

:lol: Please tell me you're not serious...

...you're kidding, right? :|

the_h_bomb

Ratchet and clank has flying sections and side scrolling levels for the first time in a platformer. It also has amazing controls with the superior sixaxis motion sensitive technology. I'm 100% serious

You really can't make posts like these and at the same time complain about why you are getting modded in SW. You know well that the game doesn't have worst visuals then Mario 64 even if you are being sarcastic.

Blackbond

Okay, I know you're joking now.:)

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

Nothing suspect about it. Yo_Foo is a courageous visionary. His campaign to spread the truth about Mario Galaxy is the system wars equivalant of the civil rights movement

yo_foo

No doubt about it. The resurgence of PS3 users to this forum is all thanks to my strong leadership. I came to this forum during the last days of the strong Cow hold. I rose to power during the dark days for cows and thus this has made me a stronger person and one of the most credible and respected posters on this forum. Though most new people hear do not realise this because they have been in the majority since joining. Kudos to you and your analogy h bomb!

:'(

Oh Come ON! Is this what Sony pays you for? Go and get better trained you two. Like it isn't BLATENTLY obvious by now.

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

super mario galaxy dosen't look much better than super mario 64

darkspineslayer

H bomb...you just lost the tiny shread of respect darkspineslayer had for you, darkspineslayer directs your attention to the following pics.

super mario 64

super mario galaxy

your fission was just mailed.

im pretty sure h bomb is kidding
air_wolf_cubed

pics darkspineslayer

[QUOTE="yo_foo"]

So as you can see from the title - I played SMG. I played it with my friend's son. And all I can say is WOW.

WOW - why do people believe this is one of the greatest games ever?

Constant problems I've had with the Wii that I haven't had with a PS3 are sensory problems. Just thinking about Wii Sports makes my blood boil. In SMG however - the sensor can be sensitive when you don't want mario to spin and irresponsive when you want Mario to spin. My blood doesn't boil, it freezes.

Just when you think my blood could be salvaged - it is hit with a huge metal hammer due to the terrible and shocking camera angles. Something I've noticed in comparison to the Wii and the PS3 is that problem. Wii seem to exploit (especially SMG) the terrible and awkward camera angles during gameplay. The PS3's camera angles during gameplay seem so smooth, so perfect. In fact - if the PS3 were to release a game like SMG - they would have made it a lot easier to operate.

People say the game is hard - however this is only because everything is so awkward to use. That shouldn't be counted towards the generally difficulty of the gameplay because it doesn't make you want to play or it isn't fun.

PS3 need not be frigtened.

:'(

Slyprince

lol

WTF??? whats this guy talking about??????

[QUOTE="strudel420"]

Awful, just awful. Where are the real trolls?

MoldOnHold

don't worry. I'm just putting my toe in the water here. Seeing how people react. I'm disappointed actually that people no longer read extremely long posts :(

Yo Foo Sad :'(

I rose to power during the dark days for cows and thus this has made me a stronger person and one of the most credible and respected posters on this forum.yo_foo

your sig tells me otherwise...

Brought to you by Special Promotion, ordered and paid for by Sony Corporation.

Bling bling.

Okay, I know you're joking now.:)

BioShockOwnz

No joking here my friend. I dare you to name a platformer with such revolutionary features that came out before Ratchet and Clank PS3

:lol:OMG this thread is full of ... FUN!!!

i agree the sensor bar can be a hassel but i dont agree on your review of super mario galaxy its very biased you mentioned you haddnt had a problem with ps3, i had a big problem while playing timesplitters my controller started going automatically i turned i t of then back on i cant shoot ,, come to find ou t their controllers are defective ,, i had infact just replaced a controller this month for the same exact i ssue ,,

wouldnt turn on charge wouldnt do no thing ,,

all systems have faults, , i wont deny that , but the game your talking about just recieved game of the year ,,

and sold very well and in reality regardless of your biased review is a great game one of the best looking and pl aying wii games todate ssbb is the now ,,

ps3 is ok if it had aaas for me to choose from i like the ps3 and 360 what i dont like is the shody jobs of the third party u tilizing both the 360 and ps3,

gta iv and saints row 2 aside from gt5 driver 5 are the only games so far that look p romising , for either system ive already beaten halo 3 call of duty 4, ps3 , i already played ssbb whats next , besides mariokart,

theres nothing why because 3rd party titles are rehash after rehash ,, aside from the 3 i mentioned and first party titles. theres nothing 3rd party offers thats promising this gen, aside from timesplitters 4 and haze from free radical

theres very few

[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]

So I guess you could say Mario is no longer relevant

Blackbond

• How many AAA and AAAA reviews does a game need to be relevant?
• How many GOTY Awards does a game need to be relevant?
• How many millions of copies does a game need to sell to be relevant?

Again Blackbond jumping in without a full understanding in what I am saying. Sure the game picked up a lot of awards - I'm happy for it. I really am, don't get me wrong. Any game that can bring enough joy to millions of children worldwide has GOT to be worth something. You seem to have only quoted that one statement - taking my quote out of context. If what i said was considered relevance by a lot of users than yes - Mario himself is considered irrelevant. However platformers themselves are still slightly relevant to get children into the magic of gaming.

This is no 'Wii is teh kiddy' statement. Don't take me as that desperate. Think of it more as a blessing for children. I know when my child gets old enough to play games - a game like this one would be on the top of my list to give it. Thus thats why it deserves to be rewarded.

However people like me who have grown up with Mario feel that we've seen him so many times - and thus the similarities SMG has to not only SM64 and other platformers nowadays makes it feel irrelevant.

:'(

Its a simple question that requires a simple answer. How many AAA and AAAA reviews does a game need to be relevant? How many GOTY's does a game need to be relevant. How many millions does a game need to sell to be relevant. Since your the wone saying Mario is no longer relevant I'd like to know the criteria for a game to be relevant.

The rest of your post has no baring on my question it just takes it into a completely different place all together.

No really. You're questions refer to misquoting me. But if you want me to answer your questions - Critics shouldn't matter. If the general consensus by the general public and the different types of gamers is that a game is amazing (like GTA:SA, Deus Ex, LOZ: OoT) then the can be considered relevant to society. I guess SMG is relevant to the children of today's society - just like Donkey Kong and games like that were in mine.

:'(

:lol:OMG this thread is full of ... FUN!!!

JuarN18

Who are you then? Yo_Foo's second account? Third?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Okay, I know you're joking now.:)

the_h_bomb

No joking here my friend. I dare you toname a platformer with such revolutionary featuresthat came out before Ratchet and Clank PS3

Sonic and Mario Bros :|

I mean there were tons of things revolutionary before Ratchet and Clank on PS3. I mean the genre had to get its ideas and concepts from some where right?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Okay, I know you're joking now.:)

the_h_bomb

No joking here my friend. I dare you to name a platformer with such revolutionary features that came out before Ratchet and Clank PS3

nights (Dreamcast)- flying sections

super mario bros (NES)- 2-d platforming segments

darkspineslayer shail call ownage right here.

ok the h bomb

ever heard of super mario 64

of course you have and new super mario bros . and super paper mario

just to name a few

2d/3d platformers,

and all of these are nintendos

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="strudel420"]

Awful, just awful. Where are the real trolls?

yo_foo

don't worry. I'm just putting my toe in the water here. Seeing how people react. I'm disappointed actually that people no longer read extremely long posts :(

Yo Foo Sad :'(

No doubt about it. The resurgence of PS3 users to this forum is all thanks to my strong leadership. I came to this forum during the last days of the strong Cow hold. I rose to power during the dark days for cows and thus this has made me a stronger person and one of the most credible and respected posters on this forum. Though most new people hear do not realise this because they have been in the majority since joining. Kudos to you and your analogy h bomb!

:'(

yo_foo

True

Thanks to the faithful cows Sony is once again doing well. It's safe to say that we're responsible for Sony's recent performance and strong sales. It's far from over though. We still have to expose the lies perpetrated by the videogame media

MArio Galaxy should have got 5/10 AT BEST, and that's just for the nostalgic value

No really. You're questions refer to misquoting me. But if you want me to answer your questions - Critics shouldn't matter. If the general consensus by the general public and the different types of gamers is that a game is amazing (like GTA:SA, Deus Ex, LOZ: OoT) then the can be considered relevant to society. I guess SMG is relevant to the children of today's society - just like Donkey Kong and games like that were in mine.

:'(

yo_foo

Right, because the general consensus of all of gaming with regard to the social relevance of a single titleis so easy to discover and logically define.... :roll: