You can run Bioshock on high with a $500 rig, post pics or vids proving it then.

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#1 CB4McGusto
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I often hear people saying that you can build a rig for less than $500, or they have a rig that cost less than $500 that they can play next gen pc games on high settings. Bioshock, Crysis, COD4, UT3, GeOW(pc), etc.. I'm not bashing I just want to see some proof of how well a cheap rig can run these games. I figured the cost of a cpu, motherboard, gpu, dvd drive, case, psu, sound card, k/m, and monitor would cost you well over a grand, especially if your using it to play upcoming pc games. Am I wrong?
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#2 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Good job, You have just started a 10 page flame war that will get nowhere.
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If you tape a couple of 486's together you should be able to run Crysis on medium settings.

Its just that well optimised.

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Good job, You have just started a 10 page flame war that will get nowhere.Aljosa23

Aren't you the guy who always brags about his 2 8800GTX's? That's like $1200 on a gpu alone,isn't it?:?

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#6 Hadoken_Kid
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without a moniter i could get a rig for 670 bucks that could run it on max. at 30 fps or better too.

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Good job, You have just started a 10 page flame war that will get nowhere.CB4McGusto

Aren't you the guy who always brags about his 2 8800GTX's? That's like $1200 on a gpu alone,isn't it?:?

Who brags? I only said that in a thread where you post your rig. And I didn't even pay more then $550 for those 2 cards. My new PC cost $1200 because I built it myself and here in Canada there is a computer store on every corner basically.
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#8 jdp0412
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I doubt you can...my rig (which is only about a year and a half old) cost more far more than $500 and can not run it maxed out a reasonable frame rate (betwee n20-25 FPS with everything maxed).
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#9 themagicbum9720
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you dont always have to buya new case, monitor psu, kb/m, dvd drive and soundcard, unless they brake or etc.

the only thing i would worry about upgrading would the the cpu, gpu, ram and mobo.

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#10 Vandalvideo
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The closest I've ever gotten was 520 USD by skimping on the PSU. 600 is a more realistic number.
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#11 themagicbum9720
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I doubt you can...my rig (which is only about a year and a half old) cost more far more than $500 and can not run it maxed out a reasonable frame rate (betwee n20-25 FPS with everything maxed).jdp0412

really? my 7600gs maxes it out.

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#12 toxicmog
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most people already have decent cases/ monitors if you are serious pc gamer.

Just upgrade the internals....

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#13 CB4McGusto
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Good job, You have just started a 10 page flame war that will get nowhere.Aljosa23

Aren't you the guy who always brags about his 2 8800GTX's? That's like $1200 on a gpu alone,isn't it?:?

Who brags? I only said that in a thread where you post your rig. And I didn't even pay more then $550 for those 2 cards. My new PC cost $1200 because I built it myself and here in Canada there is a computer store on every corner basically.

One 8800GTX cardcost $500+. :|

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+106791921+1067924921&name=GeForce+8800GTX

On topic: I'm still waiting for pics, or vids!

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One 8800GTX cardcost $500+. :|CB4McGusto
And one 7900GS costs 129.99, which can run the game perfectlly fine at max settings (Minus direct X 10)
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The truth is something inbetween. Its not as cheap as some hermits would have you believe, but its not all that expensive either.
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#16 LosDaddie
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I'd love to know how much it would cost to build a PC with the specs that are recommended for Bioshock.
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#17 Vandalvideo
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I'd love to know how much it would cost to build a PC with the specs that are recommended for Bioshock.LosDaddie
I see you are on a computer...so I'm guessing you have a case, OS, Keyboard and mouse...hmmm...580. From scratch? Anywhere between 630-690.
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]I'd love to know how much it would cost to build a PC with the specs that are recommended for Bioshock.Vandalvideo
I see you are on a computer...so I'm guessing you have a case, OS, Keyboard and mouse...hmmm...580. From scratch? Anywhere between 630-690.

You assumed wrong. I'm on a laptop.

I just want to know how much, from scratch, it will cost to build a PC with the recommended specs for Bioshock. And links are required.:)

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Good job, You have just started a 10 page flame war that will get nowhere.Aljosa23
Welcome to system wars.
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#20 76ers
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I can build one for about $600 to max out several games...
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I just want to know how much, from scratch, it will cost to build a PC with the recommended specs for Bioshock. And links are required.:)LosDaddie
Why is it that you people refuse to spend five minutes building a rig? Worthless: 7900GS:125+ http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=7900gs Ram/MOBO/CPU combo: 290-350 http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboard_combos_with_memory/core_2_duo_e6600_2.4ghz_cpu_fan_mem.htm Case:30 dollars XP: 70 Bucks from pricewatch PSU: 30 dollars Keyboard + mouse = 30 Running price: 615-630
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#22 CB4McGusto
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Vandalvideo why don't you post your specs along with some pics of your $500, or $600 rig running bioshock? Not everybody can upgrade, I'm on a old HP with 1.3GHz proccessor speed, 256mb of Ram, 16x dvd drive, no video card. Hell I have no choice but to start all over from scratch!

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Hmm I see what you mean but why does this deserve a topic? ...Wait I see your a teenage console fanboy that cant afford a gaming PC, sp intstead of admiring the games you bash them for not being able to run them.

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A rig under 800 will make Bioshock look great. I just downloaded the demo from Live! and it looks great on the 360.

Just not as good as a nice PC.

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#25 Vandalvideo
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Vandalvideo why don't you post your specs along with some pics of your $500, or $600 rig running bioshock? Not everybody can upgrade, I'm on a old HP with 1.3GHz proccessor speed, 256mb of Ram, 16x dvd drive, no video card. Hell I have no choice but to start all over from scratch!

CB4McGusto
Look up. My rig is slightly different: 7900GS Pentium D 945 (heavy duty dual core processor) 3.73GHZ 2 GIGS DDR-2 RAM 533 FREQ
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]I just want to know how much, from scratch, it will cost to build a PC with the recommended specs for Bioshock. And links are required.:)Vandalvideo
Why is it that you people refuse to spend five minutes building a rig? Worthless: 7900GS:125+ http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=7900gs Ram/MOBO/CPU combo: 290-350 http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboard_combos_with_memory/core_2_duo_e6600_2.4ghz_cpu_fan_mem.htm Case:30 dollars XP: 70 Bucks from pricewatch PSU: 30 dollars Keyboard + mouse = 30 Running price: 615-630

You still need a sound card, hdd, monitor.

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#27 Stall0wn3d
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if you want everything maxed from scratch and at 60fps which is nice especially for the pace of a lot of pc fps, it is gonna cost you a nice wad of cash plain and simple. you need vista for dx10 as well. it doesnt cost 2k like people like to say more like half that, thats still a lot tho...

in a year or so all this stuff will come down in price by a lot and then you will probably be able to build one for $500 from scratch
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#28 Vandalvideo
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You still need a sound card, hdd, monitor.CB4McGusto
Sound is onboard, you are typing from a computer right now, and its silly to include the price of a monitor. ZOMG HDTV COSTS 2K for TEH HD FOR YOUR CONSOLE LAWL. Yeah you don't want me to go there.
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Hmm I see what you mean but why does this deserve a topic? ...Wait I see your a teenage console fanboy that cant afford a gaming PC, sp intstead of admiring the games you bash them for not being able to run them.

sadikovic

What PC games did I bash? Your assumptions of me being a teenage fanboy who can't afford to PC game sure does tell a lot about your charecteristics.

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I often hear people saying that you can build a rig for less than $500, or they have a rig that cost less than $500 that they can play next gen pc games on high settings. Bioshock, Crysis, COD4, UT3, GeOW(pc), etc.. I'm not bashing I just want to see some proof of how well a cheap rig can run these games. I figured the cost of a cpu, motherboard, gpu, dvd drive, case, psu, sound card, k/m, and monitor would cost you well over a grand, especially if your using it to play upcoming pc games. Am I wrong?CB4McGusto

Why are you including a k/m, sound card, and monitor for hte price of a PC, yet you don't include the price of accessories/controllers, sound system, and HDTV for the price of a console? $500 (for BioShock you can actually, not sure about the other games)? No, Little over $600? Yes.

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#31 CB4McGusto
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I still don't see any pics, or gameplay vids. I'm not bashing, I'm curious to know.
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#32 trix5817
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you dont always have to buya new case, monitor psu, kb/m, dvd drive and soundcard, unless they brake or etc.

the only thing i would worry about upgrading would the the cpu, gpu, ram and mobo.

themagicbum9720

Exactly. Once you buy all that crap, all you have to worry about is the CPU, GPU, RAM, and mobo.

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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]I often hear people saying that you can build a rig for less than $500, or they have a rig that cost less than $500 that they can play next gen pc games on high settings. Bioshock, Crysis, COD4, UT3, GeOW(pc), etc.. I'm not bashing I just want to see some proof of how well a cheap rig can run these games. I figured the cost of a cpu, motherboard, gpu, dvd drive, case, psu, sound card, k/m, and monitor would cost you well over a grand, especially if your using it to play upcoming pc games. Am I wrong?trix5817

Why are you including a k/m, sound card, and monitor for hte price of a PC, yet you don't include the price of accessories/controllers, sound system, and HDTV for the price of a console? $500 (for BioShock you can actually, not sure about the other games)? No, Little over $600? Yes.

Provide me with links showing what you need and for how much.

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I still don't see any pics, or gameplay vids. I'm not bashing, I'm curious to know.CB4McGusto
Pics from my (650) dollar rig running Bioshock maxed out (at higher frame rates than the 360)  Heres another pic of my rig raping MOH:Airborne at max setting:
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[QUOTE="sadikovic"]

Hmm I see what you mean but why does this deserve a topic? ...Wait I see your a teenage console fanboy that cant afford a gaming PC, sp intstead of admiring the games you bash them for not being able to run them.

CB4McGusto

What PC games did I bash? Your assumptions of me being a teenage fanboy who can't afford to PC game sure does tell a lot about your charecteristics.

Im sure you have and Im sure that you will!

But wait more importatntly what is the purpose of this topic?

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LOL These fanboys think you need a 8800gtx and a Quad Core CPU to max out games.

LOL my old 7600gt with AMD 3400+ plays BioShock maxed at 1024*800 and gets 25-35 frames average.

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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]I just want to know how much, from scratch, it will cost to build a PC with the recommended specs for Bioshock. And links are required.:)Vandalvideo
Why is it that you people refuse to spend five minutes building a rig? Worthless: 7900GS:125+ Ram/MOBO/CPU combo: 290-350 Case:30 dollars XP: 70 Bucks from pricewatch PSU: 30 dollars Keyboard + mouse = 30 Running price: 615-630

I don't build gaming rigs because I'm a console gamer who will only ever own a laptop.:)

You need to add in an additional 512MB of RAM (those combos only come with 512MB). And what about the DVD drive?

Also, I want to see a like for XP at $70.

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Doesn't look like nothing a console can't do for $300 less, I see a few jags in those bioshock pics too. How is the framerate?
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76ers

That will run Bioshock athigh settings? Not to mention upcoming games like COD4, GeOW, Crysis, UT3, Far Cry 2 etc.? This thread isn't only about Bioshock you guys.

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#41 Vandalvideo
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You need to add in an additional 512MB of RAM (those combos only come with 512MB). And what about the DVD drive?Also, I want to see a like for XP at $70.LosDaddie
Thats why I gave you such a range on the CPU/RAM/MOBO combo. It includes the price for up to 2GIGS of DDR ram, so throw that out the window. My GOD you are lazy: http://www.pricewatch.com/software_oper_system/windows_xp_home.htm And I could easily go lower on the other parts to negate what you're trynig to do here. If I wanted, I could grab a 7600 for even cheaper, a lower model CPU, etc and STILL have the same price diferential. So stop what you're trying to do, before I go cutting corners and chop down the price even more. DVD drive: 43 dollars Price before me price chopping: 680 (Still within what I originally gave you) Price after me price chopping( back down to 615)
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#42 trix5817
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Doesn't look like nothing a console can't do for $300 less, I see a few jags in those bioshock pics too. How is the framerate?CB4McGusto

$300 or less? Try again.......try $350. Or more if you want the Elite, because you gotta have it! What about an HDTV? Sound system? XBL? Extra controllers? Accessories? It all adds up. When I bought my 360, I did not spend only $400, I spent way, waaaay over that.

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[QUOTE="76ers"]

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CB4McGusto

That will run Bioshock athigh settings? Not to mention upcoming games like COD4, GeOW, Crysis, UT3, Far Cry 2 etc.? This thread isn't only about Bioshock you guys.

Yes. You could put a X1950pro in there instead. It should max out those games no problem.

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#45 sadikovic
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Doesn't look like nothing a console can't do for $300 less, I see a few jags in those bioshock pics too. How is the framerate?CB4McGusto

Oh no not this again!

Do you really think that a £1000 PC is braught soley for gaming?

Wait a year just like every generation then you can compare screens and then youll goahh man I need a new PC my 360 version looks like poop!

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#46 themagicbum9720
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You still need a sound card, hdd, monitor.

CB4McGusto

why buy what you already have?

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#47 76ers
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"][QUOTE="76ers"]

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

GIGABYTE GA-M61P-S3 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

PNY VCG7900SXPB GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 600W Power Supply - Retail


AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADO4600CUBOX - Retail

A-DATA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ADQVE1A16K - Retail


Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

ASUS 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe and 14X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model DRW-1814BLT - Retail

Subtotal:$614.43

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That will run Bioshock athigh settings? Not to mention upcoming games like COD4, GeOW, Crysis, UT3, Far Cry 2 etc.? This thread isn't only about Bioshock you guys.

Yes. You could put a X1950pro in there instead. It should max out those games no problem.

Yeah.

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#48 Vandalvideo
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Doesn't look like nothing a console can't do for $300 less, I see a few jags in those bioshock pics too. How is the framerate?CB4McGusto
In the upper right hand corner: 44 FPS. Don't talk price with me either unless you want ownage. I could go on about how games are cheaper and over the span of a generation your investment will EASILY be negated, and how PC is cheaper. Don't go there young bucky. You are not ready.
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#49 smokeydabear076
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My basic specs.

AMD 3800

6800 GT

2 gigs of ram

The computer is probably a lot less then $500 these days. The high settings performance is not too good on Bioshock though.

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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]You need to add in an additional 512MB of RAM (those combos only come with 512MB). And what about the DVD drive?Also, I want to see a like for XP at $70.Vandalvideo
Thats why I gave you such a range on the CPU/RAM/MOBO combo. It includes the price for up to 2GIGS of DDR ram, so throw that out the window. My GOD you are lazy: http://www.pricewatch.com/software_oper_system/windows_xp_home.htm And I could easily go lower on the other parts to negate what you're trynig to do here. If I wanted, I could grab a 7600 for even cheaper, a lower model CPU, etc and STILL have the same price diferential. So stop what you're trying to do, before I go cutting corners and chop down the price even more. DVD drive: 43 dollars Price before me price chopping: 680 (Still within what I originally gave you) Price after me price chopping( back down to 615)

Awesome!

So, it does cost far more than $350 to builda PC capable of running Bioshock.