You guys don't get it, the PS5 and Xbox 4 are already out!

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#51  Edited By GarGx1
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@mrbojangles25 said:

I think everyone is getting their panties in a bunch over nothing.

All we are seeing is this latest cash grab from MS and Sony. There is a "new" thing (relatively new, seeing as the standard is still 1080p...and still is not even met most of the time) out now called 4K and they have a cheap way to make something new with 90% of the same parts/manufacturing process (which they likely still have a lot of) as the old thing, and sell it at twice the price to people.

Why? Because that is how bandwagons work. After years of failing to deliver on 1080p promises, on years of us not learning from their broken promises, I expect to see a lot of chumps buying into this latest craze that is still unproven. VR? 4K? Yeah, good luck with that on your current-plus-one-half generation console. Not at that price...

This is a mid-generation anomaly, that is all. Though I admit it is fun to speculate.

Honestly, imo, the only way for the thing everyone thinks is going to happen is for MS and Sony to go to some sort of hardware subscriber model where you pay like 300 dollars a year to lease a console on the guarentee that it can play the latest and greatest at the best resolution with the highest visuals; new hardware comes out, you send it in for your quarterly checkup and it comes back a week later all upgraded. And that is incredibly unrealistic. More likely they will just migrate more towards the PC model and let consumers do it themselves (and at that point, why use consoles at all?)

YOu're also missing a key point: how many consoles will they sell of PS5 versus PS4 Pro? Not everyone is going to get a PS4 Pro. EVERYONE (everyone that plays Playstation, at least) will get a PS5. People will wait in the cold, in lines, fight eachother....for a PS5. A PS4 Pro is not a big deal. Sony and MS would not miss out on a marketing/sales opportunity like that.

Personally I still really like the idea of static, fixed generations. Stacking upon each-other every few years. I'd rather they not just blur into eachother.

It's not really an anomaly, it's just a new way for console manufacturers to approach the issue of ever advancing electronic hardware and how to make more money from it. The PS4 Pro can't do native 4k nor can it do faux K with 60fps (actually 1080/60 looks it may be problematic in some cases) but Sony's next console (PS4 Ultra!) will do native 4k and may even manage 4k/60fps. At the point where console are becoming capable of 4k/60, PC gamers will be moving on to 8k displays and so the chase will continue.

If these "mid-gen" refreshes are financially successful then expect them to continue.

Other things console gamers should be getting ready for are full digital (PC is almost there already) and then beyond that, online streaming services only. It's far cheaper to create a set top box that can take an internet connection and a couple of controllers than a full hardware suite in a console.

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#52 mrbojangles25
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@GarGx1: hopefully you are right! if they are successful then that means more competition, then we actually might benefit :)

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#53 WitIsWisdom
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No, you are wrong.

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#54 tormentos
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@xxyetixx said:

@killered3: to say Scorpio will have games that won't be on Xbox One/S is just an eventual fact. If MS is committed to the plan they have in place and don't want to stagnate games development Xbox One/S will be phased out. PR is PR and it's nice to say no one let behind and you can game at your own price point, but Xbox One/S will become obsolete, and MS will have to go forward with out. If they don't there is zero chance of what they are trying to accomplish working. PC will continue to advance and get better tech people will upgrade, MS will now have to also. It's either be happy and content with stagnated developed games, and ride Win10 play anywhere, and software sales. Or it's MS consoles will be released and/or updatable via performance enhancing purchases, and games move forward and get better, and MS can keep on par with the ever evolving game industry.

MS could chose the former and the cows can rejoice because it would be an epic fail on MS part or MS could be setting themselves up for an exit stratedgy for hardware all together. Only time will tell.

Then don't buy any platform since all will be faceout at one point and you will be left behind.

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#55 ScrollingLayers
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I understand what the OP is saying and why he is saying it, but I totally disagree, and you will all see by no later than Holiday 2020 when PS5 and Xbox [insert name here] are both on shelves (or sold out!).

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#56 nepu7supastar7
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@xxyetixx:

No exclusives. Only plays Xbox One games. It's an Xbox One by all accounts. And as Phil Spencer says, this doesn't change anything. Xbox Scorpio isn't a thing. He doesn't want us to have to do this every few years, that's not their motto.

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#57 xxyetixx
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@killered3: can't always believe what PR guys tell you bro ??

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#58 Heil68
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@GameboyTroy said:

If the PS5 is out then why did Sony call it the PS4 Pro?

1st professional video game console in the history of video games.