You guys think Project Cafe could have BF3 @ 60FPS?

No, but I'm sure they'll release something along the lines of 'Mario: Frontline Warfare' or something, to add to the heinous amount of military-based FPS' these days :P

DarthJohnova

And I would so play it.

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]No.ChubbyGuy40

Name a time when nintendo had better graphics then ps & xbox....

GAMECUBE

And before that? N64

Didn't know THIS many people started gaming this gen. People don't realize Nintendo consoles before the Wii were graphical powerhouses.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Ummm... no... and neither have you. They have yet to be released (unless I am missing out on something, which I'm sure I'm not since info like that would be on the front page of every gaming site).

arto1223

Thats funny becaue the leaked specks of both the Gamecube , PS2 and Xbox before E3 were almost dead on.

Ok. Based on those "leaked" specs, then the answer is still the same. The Wii2/Project Cafe will only be slightly better than the PS3. The PS3 is not even close to an i7 and a GTX 580, which is what the hardware is for the videos released so far. Then add in that those videos' content isn't even maxed out, and it is clear... oh so clear... that the Wii2/Project Cafe will not be able to run the game at 60 FPS at a graphical level near to what has been shown so far. Add in that the hardware will be new and therefor a tad difficult for the devs to optimize (seeing as how the 360 has had 6ish years for devs to optimize that hardware and they can barely get 60 FPS in games at even sub HD resolutions).

I just lol at people like this that buy into the hype for console hardware. I'm sure you though everything this gen on consoles was going to be 1080p at 60 FPS... Just get a PC and play the game on the proper system with up to 64 players, better graphics, more than 60 FPS, dedicated servers, mouse and keyboard as well as any other input device you can think of, etc..

Except a pc with equivlent specs compared to the Wii2/project cafe would get utterly smoked by a console as it can be far better optmized. And only slighty more powerful then a PS3? It has 3x more Ram , faste ram thats in pretty much any pc and a far more powerful GPU. And if Nintendo is coming with something like this imagine what the PS4 and next Xbox will do. They will have games that make BF3 look average at best.

didn't start gaming this gen had super nintendo, ps1,xbox1, 360, ps3.the reason why i didn't get n64 & gamecube was because the graphics were crazy weak.

mojosodopee

You obviously must have because every Nintendo console besides the Wii WERE very powerful graphically. Not our fault you are ignorant and refuse to believe it. RE4 had the best visuals last generation hands down on consoles. Conker had the best visuals of the N64 and PS1 era.

the reason why i didn't get n64 & gamecube was because the graphics were crazy weak.

mojosodopee

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Thats funny becaue the leaked specks of both the Gamecube , PS2 and Xbox before E3 were almost dead on.

TheSterls

Ok. Based on those "leaked" specs, then the answer is still the same. The Wii2/Project Cafe will only be slightly better than the PS3. The PS3 is not even close to an i7 and a GTX 580, which is what the hardware is for the videos released so far. Then add in that those videos' content isn't even maxed out, and it is clear... oh so clear... that the Wii2/Project Cafe will not be able to run the game at 60 FPS at a graphical level near to what has been shown so far. Add in that the hardware will be new and therefor a tad difficult for the devs to optimize (seeing as how the 360 has had 6ish years for devs to optimize that hardware and they can barely get 60 FPS in games at even sub HD resolutions).

I just lol at people like this that buy into the hype for console hardware. I'm sure you though everything this gen on consoles was going to be 1080p at 60 FPS... Just get a PC and play the game on the proper system with up to 64 players, better graphics, more than 60 FPS, dedicated servers, mouse and keyboard as well as any other input device you can think of, etc..

Except a pc with equivlent specs compared to the Wii2/project cafe would get utterly smoked by a console as it can be far better optmized. And only slighty more powerful then a PS3? It has 3x more Ram , faste ram thats in pretty much any pc and a far more powerful GPU. And if Nintendo is coming with something like this imagine what the PS4 and next Xbox will do. They will have games that make BF3 look average at best.

I'll even buy the next MS console if it can geta GTX 580 in it so Battlefield 3 looks "average." Meanwhile we'll be playing the Samaritan from Epic if they do turn it into a series, which so far takes more power to render than BF3 while consoles are stuck with that.

Seriously, optimization is not a magic tool that can be used an infinite amount of times. With consoles, there is only more blur and pop-in. :D

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]

didn't start gaming this gen had super nintendo, ps1,xbox1, 360, ps3.the reason why i didn't get n64 & gamecube was because the graphics were crazy weak.

ChubbyGuy40

You obviously must have because every Nintendo console besides the Wii WERE very powerful graphically. Not our fault you are ignorant and refuse to believe it. RE4 had the best visuals last generation hands down on consoles. Conker had the best visuals of the N64 and PS1 era.

youtube dead or alive 3, god of war 2, black, dead or alive vollyball gameplay. Ps2 & xbox crushed gamecube

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]since xbox and playstation been out, yes

Name a time when nintendo had better graphics then ps & xbox....

mojosodopee

GAMECUBE

And before that? N64

Didn't know THIS many people started gaming this gen. People don't realize Nintendo consoles before the Wii were graphical powerhouses.

Would be cool if Battlefield 3 would be a Launch Title but by then we would be playing it on the other Platforms.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]

didn't start gaming this gen had super nintendo, ps1,xbox1, 360, ps3.the reason why i didn't get n64 & gamecube was because the graphics were crazy weak.

mojosodopee

You obviously must have because every Nintendo console besides the Wii WERE very powerful graphically. Not our fault you are ignorant and refuse to believe it. RE4 had the best visuals last generation hands down on consoles. Conker had the best visuals of the N64 and PS1 era.

youtube dead or alive 3, god of war 2, black, dead or alive vollyball gameplay. Ps2 & xbox crushed gamecube

Youtube Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Remake, Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess (Easily owns any PS2 or Xbox game,) F-Zero GX, Rogue Squadron 3, Star Fox Adventures, Metroid Prime 2, and hell even Metroid Prime 1.

Xbox and PS2 had nothing on Gamecube's visuals.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Ok. Based on those "leaked" specs, then the answer is still the same. The Wii2/Project Cafe will only be slightly better than the PS3. The PS3 is not even close to an i7 and a GTX 580, which is what the hardware is for the videos released so far. Then add in that those videos' content isn't even maxed out, and it is clear... oh so clear... that the Wii2/Project Cafe will not be able to run the game at 60 FPS at a graphical level near to what has been shown so far. Add in that the hardware will be new and therefor a tad difficult for the devs to optimize (seeing as how the 360 has had 6ish years for devs to optimize that hardware and they can barely get 60 FPS in games at even sub HD resolutions).

I just lol at people like this that buy into the hype for console hardware. I'm sure you though everything this gen on consoles was going to be 1080p at 60 FPS... Just get a PC and play the game on the proper system with up to 64 players, better graphics, more than 60 FPS, dedicated servers, mouse and keyboard as well as any other input device you can think of, etc..

ChubbyGuy40

Except a pc with equivlent specs compared to the Wii2/project cafe would get utterly smoked by a console as it can be far better optmized. And only slighty more powerful then a PS3? It has 3x more Ram , faste ram thats in pretty much any pc and a far more powerful GPU. And if Nintendo is coming with something like this imagine what the PS4 and next Xbox will do. They will have games that make BF3 look average at best.

I'll even buy the next MS console if it can geta GTX 580 in it so Battlefield 3 looks "average." Meanwhile we'll be playing the Samaritan from Epic if they do turn it into a series, which so far takes more power to render than BF3 while consoles are stuck with that.

Seriously, optimization is not a magic tool that can be used an infinite amount of times. With consoles, there is only more blur and pop-in. :D

If you want to be palying Samaritan you will probalby need to get the next Xbox as its highly unlikely Epic will be releasing a high end PC exclusive anytime soon. The last time they released a tech demo that made everyones jaw drop it was for Gears of War and we all know what that launched for :)

And sorry but Uncharted 2 isnt justing using more blur and pop in then Uncharted 1. Its got better textures, better geometry, better lighting and well you get my point. I can name dozens of examples. Saying that games dont get any better looking on consoles is just ridiculous.

PC version of Battlefiels 3 (higher player count, bigger maps, etc) on Project Cafe would make me get one.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Except a pc with equivlent specs compared to the Wii2/project cafe would get utterly smoked by a console as it can be far better optmized. And only slighty more powerful then a PS3? It has 3x more Ram , faste ram thats in pretty much any pc and a far more powerful GPU. And if Nintendo is coming with something like this imagine what the PS4 and next Xbox will do. They will have games that make BF3 look average at best.

TheSterls

I'll even buy the next MS console if it can geta GTX 580 in it so Battlefield 3 looks "average." Meanwhile we'll be playing the Samaritan from Epic if they do turn it into a series, which so far takes more power to render than BF3 while consoles are stuck with that.

Seriously, optimization is not a magic tool that can be used an infinite amount of times. With consoles, there is only more blur and pop-in. :D

If you want to be palying Samaritan you will probalby need to get the next Xbox as its highly unlikely Epic will be releasing a high end PC exclusive anytime soon. The last time they released a tech demo that made everyones jaw drop it was for Gears of War and we all know what that launched for :)

The next xbox is gonna have 1-3 GTX 580s? Alright!

Yeah. All the shots were bullshots and it ended up looking a lot worse than what was shown. That is, until it got to PC and was graphics king for a month because Crysis came out. Not even Gears 3 has anything on Gears 1 PC.

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

You obviously must have because every Nintendo console besides the Wii WERE very powerful graphically. Not our fault you are ignorant and refuse to believe it. RE4 had the best visuals last generation hands down on consoles. Conker had the best visuals of the N64 and PS1 era.

ChubbyGuy40

youtube dead or alive 3, god of war 2, black, dead or alive vollyball gameplay. Ps2 & xbox crushed gamecube

Youtube Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Remake, Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess (Easily owns any PS2 or Xbox game,) F-Zero GX, Rogue Squadron 3, Star Fox Adventures, Metroid Prime 2, and hell even Metroid Prime 1.

Xbox and PS2 had nothing on Gamecube's visuals.

Meh im going to have to disagree. Although I do agree RE4 on the Gamecube was the single best looking game last generation. Ninja Gaiden and Splinter Cell Chaos Theory on the Xbox looked better then most of anything you saw on the Gamecube. And God of War 2 on the PS2 did as well.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

I'll even buy the next MS console if it can geta GTX 580 in it so Battlefield 3 looks "average." Meanwhile we'll be playing the Samaritan from Epic if they do turn it into a series, which so far takes more power to render than BF3 while consoles are stuck with that.

Seriously, optimization is not a magic tool that can be used an infinite amount of times. With consoles, there is only more blur and pop-in. :D

ChubbyGuy40

If you want to be palying Samaritan you will probalby need to get the next Xbox as its highly unlikely Epic will be releasing a high end PC exclusive anytime soon. The last time they released a tech demo that made everyones jaw drop it was for Gears of War and we all know what that launched for :)

The next xbox is gonna have 1-3 GTX 580s? Alright!

Yeah. All the shots were bullshots and it ended up looking a lot worse than what was shown. That is, until it got to PC and was graphics king for a month because Crysis came out. Not even Gears 3 has anything on Gears 1 PC.

LOL Gears 3 destroys Gears 1 on pc. Horrid lighting , gray enviorments give me a break.And 3 580s? That just goes to show how horribly Unoptimized it is. crysis was running on 4 7900GTX and barely got 30 fps when it was shown before it was launched. Thats because devs use this thing we were talking about earlier . ( CALLED OPTIMIZATION)

In 2 years they will have a card alot smaller and a lot more efficent and more powerful then a GTX580 and yes it will probalby be in the next Playstation.

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

You obviously must have because every Nintendo console besides the Wii WERE very powerful graphically. Not our fault you are ignorant and refuse to believe it. RE4 had the best visuals last generation hands down on consoles. Conker had the best visuals of the N64 and PS1 era.

ChubbyGuy40

youtube dead or alive 3, god of war 2, black, dead or alive vollyball gameplay. Ps2 & xbox crushed gamecube

Youtube Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Remake, Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess (Easily owns any PS2 or Xbox game,) F-Zero GX, Rogue Squadron 3, Star Fox Adventures, Metroid Prime 2, and hell even Metroid Prime 1.

Xbox and PS2 had nothing on Gamecube's visuals.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

If you want to be palying Samaritan you will probalby need to get the next Xbox as its highly unlikely Epic will be releasing a high end PC exclusive anytime soon. The last time they released a tech demo that made everyones jaw drop it was for Gears of War and we all know what that launched for :)

TheSterls

The next xbox is gonna have 1-3 GTX 580s? Alright!

Yeah. All the shots were bullshots and it ended up looking a lot worse than what was shown. That is, until it got to PC and was graphics king for a month because Crysis came out. Not even Gears 3 has anything on Gears 1 PC.

LOL Gears 3 destroys Gears 1 on pc. not to mention it destroyed anything on pc when it was launched. Go look in at all the graphic reviews when it launched. And Gears 1 on pc looks better then Gears 3? Horrid lighting , gray enviorments give me a break. And 3 580s? That just goes to show how horribly Unoptimized it is. crysis was running on 4 7900GTX and barely got 30 fps when it was shown before it was launched. Thats because devs use this thing we were talking about earlier . ( CALLED OPTIMIZATION)

In 2 years they will have a card alot smaller and a lot more efficent and more powerful then a GTX580 and yes it will probalby be in the next Playstation.

LOL Gears 3 destroys Gears 1 on pc. Horrid lighting , gray enviorments give me a break.And 3 580s? That just goes to show how horribly Unoptimized it is. crysis was running on 4 7900GTX and barely got 30 fps when it was shown before it was launched. Thats because devs use this thing we were talking about earlier . ( CALLED OPTIMIZATION)

In 2 years they will have a card alot smaller and a lot more efficent and more powerful then a GTX580 and yes it will probalby be in the next Playstation.

TheSterls

Got a link for the 4 7900GTX claim? They were working with the G80 tech from what I'm aware. Simple google search brings up nothing regarding what you are saying. I'd really like to see Samaritan on a single GTX 580, because Battlefield was running off one and Samaritan looks even more impressive than that.

I was gonna post some Gears PC shots that I took myself, but imageshack isn't letting me upload them (But other shots from Fraps are perfectly fine...) Its got great lighting, great use of motion blur, great textures, mmm looks great all around even today. It smashes Gears 3 in every way from footage so far, except Gears 3 actually has a green color in it and more lights.

But no, it so did not destroy anything when it launched. It just got overhyped from console fanboys. FEAR still looks better than it on PC (Not the Gears PC version of course.) Hell I'd even put Oblivion modded before Gears. Don't you remember how its judged? Based on the platform and what its showing, not whats really the best. If it was the best across all platforms, Metro 2033 would've swept up every graphics award last year by a wide margin.

And did you really just quote yourself and add nothing to it? Really? Post count that important to you?

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]I think re4 was the only gamecube game that was on the level of black and god of war 2 for ps2..come on lets not act like gamecube had a whole collection of great looking games. most of the games on that system looked terrible.

youtube dead or alive 3, god of war 2, black, dead or alive vollyball gameplay. Ps2 & xbox crushed gamecube

gta50419

Youtube Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Remake, Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess (Easily owns any PS2 or Xbox game,) F-Zero GX, Rogue Squadron 3, Star Fox Adventures, Metroid Prime 2, and hell even Metroid Prime 1.

Xbox and PS2 had nothing on Gamecube's visuals.

It was GC > Xbox > PS2. There is no overall, as there is only one king, and games on the GC rightfully smashed them all.

Can't believe this many people are in denial that Nintendo made powerful consoles before the Wii.

[QUOTE="gta50419"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Youtube Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Remake, Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess (Easily owns any PS2 or Xbox game,) F-Zero GX, Rogue Squadron 3, Star Fox Adventures, Metroid Prime 2, and hell even Metroid Prime 1.

Xbox and PS2 had nothing on Gamecube's visuals.

ChubbyGuy40

It was GC > Xbox > PS2. There is no overall, as there is only one king, and games on the GC rightfully smashed them all.

Can't believe this many people are in denial that Nintendo made powerful consoles before the Wii.

Huh? I thought everyone knew the Xbox was the strongest last gen, though not by as much as some people act. That was my experience too. But yes, the Wii is the first weak home console Nintendo has made.

'Cause that sure would be something for consoles. I've heard Cafe games will run natively at 1080p which is also nice but I hope they traget 60FPS first.

60FPS and 1080p would of course be full of win.

zxcqweasd1

[QUOTE="gta50419"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Youtube Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Remake, Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess (Easily owns any PS2 or Xbox game,) F-Zero GX, Rogue Squadron 3, Star Fox Adventures, Metroid Prime 2, and hell even Metroid Prime 1.

Xbox and PS2 had nothing on Gamecube's visuals.

ChubbyGuy40

It was GC > Xbox > PS2. There is no overall, as there is only one king, and games on the GC rightfully smashed them all.

Can't believe this many people are in denial that Nintendo made powerful consoles before the Wii.

The next xbox is gonna have 1-3 GTX 580s? Alright!

Yeah. All the shots were bullshots and it ended up looking a lot worse than what was shown. That is, until it got to PC and was graphics king for a month because Crysis came out. Not even Gears 3 has anything on Gears 1 PC.

TheSterls

i don't see why not if ps3 & 360 have it.

didn't start gaming this gen had super nintendo, ps1,xbox1, 360, ps3.the reason why i didn't get n64 & gamecube was because the graphics were crazy weak.

mojosodopee

You are WRONG. N64 was BY FAR the most powerful console of its generation graphically. Gamecube too was more powerful than Playstation 2.

You have wrong information and therefore the conclusions you based on those information are wrong too. Period.

Nope I don't think so. But if going by the rumored specs I would say it has a chance.

IGN made a mock PC based off of the rumored specs and it was running every game in 1080p, 60fps with no hiccups.

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Thats funny becaue the leaked specks of both the Gamecube , PS2 and Xbox before E3 were almost dead on.

TheSterls

Ok. Based on those "leaked" specs, then the answer is still the same. The Wii2/Project Cafe will only be slightly better than the PS3. The PS3 is not even close to an i7 and a GTX 580, which is what the hardware is for the videos released so far. Then add in that those videos' content isn't even maxed out, and it is clear... oh so clear... that the Wii2/Project Cafe will not be able to run the game at 60 FPS at a graphical level near to what has been shown so far. Add in that the hardware will be new and therefor a tad difficult for the devs to optimize (seeing as how the 360 has had 6ish years for devs to optimize that hardware and they can barely get 60 FPS in games at even sub HD resolutions).

I just lol at people like this that buy into the hype for console hardware. I'm sure you though everything this gen on consoles was going to be 1080p at 60 FPS... Just get a PC and play the game on the proper system with up to 64 players, better graphics, more than 60 FPS, dedicated servers, mouse and keyboard as well as any other input device you can think of, etc..

Except a pc with equivlent specs compared to the Wii2/project cafe would get utterly smoked by a console as it can be far better optmized. And only slighty more powerful then a PS3? It has 3x more Ram , faste ram thats in pretty much any pc and a far more powerful GPU. And if Nintendo is coming with something like this imagine what the PS4 and next Xbox will do. They will have games that make BF3 look average at best.

Do you know anything about hardware? Three times more RAM??? More than what? A PC can have as much as the mother board can handle. If you mean three times the PS3, then I would hope so since both the PS3 and 360 have very, very little RAM.

And no duh a PC with equivelent specs would be smoked by the outdated hardware that is in a console. People don't get into PC gaming to buy one set of hardware at one time and never upgrade. I bet my current PC will smoke whatever the Wii2/Project Cafe comes out with.

Last, do you really think they would put a GPU in the Wii2/Project Cafe that is more powerful than a GTX 580? If so, then I just feel sorry for you.

IGN made a mock PC based off of the rumored specs and it was running every game in 1080p, 60fps with no hiccups.

Senor_Kami

i'll be shocked if it could run uncharted 2

mojosodopee

If the Wii 2 has a 4870 like is rumored, then it could run BF3 at 1080p on high.

magnax1

only if it's optimized A LOT better than bad company 2. although my 4850 can run it on high @ 1080, the framerate is less than impressive.

its not a question of hardware because im sure BF3 would run flawlessly on Wii2 probably locked at 30 frames with native 1080p. even though we dont know the exact specs of cafe i think people are underestimating what it can do as a next gen console it will most likely put 360/ps3 in the shade.

I was thinking of B3 on the next wii. I'm not sure if it would run though as I think it would push most pc hardware. It would be an awsome announcment though.

HEY LOOK I FOUND I PIC OF NINTENDO CAFE

im a wizard

HEY LOOK I FOUND I PIC OF NINTENDO CAFE

im a wizard

EdenProxy

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Ok. Based on those "leaked" specs, then the answer is still the same. The Wii2/Project Cafe will only be slightly better than the PS3. The PS3 is not even close to an i7 and a GTX 580, which is what the hardware is for the videos released so far. Then add in that those videos' content isn't even maxed out, and it is clear... oh so clear... that the Wii2/Project Cafe will not be able to run the game at 60 FPS at a graphical level near to what has been shown so far. Add in that the hardware will be new and therefor a tad difficult for the devs to optimize (seeing as how the 360 has had 6ish years for devs to optimize that hardware and they can barely get 60 FPS in games at even sub HD resolutions).

I just lol at people like this that buy into the hype for console hardware. I'm sure you though everything this gen on consoles was going to be 1080p at 60 FPS... Just get a PC and play the game on the proper system with up to 64 players, better graphics, more than 60 FPS, dedicated servers, mouse and keyboard as well as any other input device you can think of, etc..

arto1223

Except a pc with equivlent specs compared to the Wii2/project cafe would get utterly smoked by a console as it can be far better optmized. And only slighty more powerful then a PS3? It has 3x more Ram , faste ram thats in pretty much any pc and a far more powerful GPU. And if Nintendo is coming with something like this imagine what the PS4 and next Xbox will do. They will have games that make BF3 look average at best.

Do you know anything about hardware? Three times more RAM??? More than what? A PC can have as much as the mother board can handle. If you mean three times the PS3, then I would hope so since both the PS3 and 360 have very, very little RAM.

And no duh a PC with equivelent specs would be smoked by the outdated hardware that is in a console. People don't get into PC gaming to buy one set of hardware at one time and never upgrade. I bet my current PC will smoke whatever the Wii2/Project Cafe comes out with.

Last, do you really think they would put a GPU in the Wii2/Project Cafe that is more powerful than a GTX 580? If so, then I just feel sorry for you.

You fail to realize how much more power they can get out of a console then a PC. Hell, a radeon 4890 can run most games near high at 720, they should easily be able to run BF3 at 1080p.

And I don't think any game these days uses more then 2 gigs of ram on PC anyway, and the ram used on a console is much much more efficiently used.

Definately can with rumored spec especcialy if the game is optimized well for it.

It's gonna be a lunch title. I'm telling you. ;)khoofia_pika

lol, I hope so. Cafe shall be cheaper than a PC upgrade. plus, I skipped the Wii.....so playing some HD mario and zelda would be alright.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]I think re4 was the only gamecube game that was on the level of black and god of war 2 for ps2..come on lets not act like gamecube had a whole collection of great looking games. most of the games on that system looked terrible.

youtube dead or alive 3, god of war 2, black, dead or alive vollyball gameplay. Ps2 & xbox crushed gamecube

gta50419

Youtube Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Remake, Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess (Easily owns any PS2 or Xbox game,) F-Zero GX, Rogue Squadron 3, Star Fox Adventures, Metroid Prime 2, and hell even Metroid Prime 1.

Xbox and PS2 had nothing on Gamecube's visuals.

In terms of raw technical specs

Xbox > Gamecube > PS2...

Sorry that you are confusing developer support for actual technical power... However, that doesn't make you correct.

xbox had more horespower than the cube.

someone posted the specs of each in another thread the other day.

plus.....doom 3, HL2, riddick..................these dev's would have picked the most powerful console becuase those games were beast for their time. BEASTS.

In terms of raw technical specs

Gamecube > Xbox > PS2...

Sorry that you are confusing developer support for actual technical power... However, that doesn't make you correct.

KingsMessenger

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

In terms of raw technical specs

Gamecube > Xbox > PS2...

Sorry that you are confusing developer support for actual technical power... However, that doesn't make you correct.

Inconsistancy

You are right. Sorry about that.