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#1 TheCSPeaceMaker
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I was trying to see what all the hype about so I decided to go and search for the previous star craft. I came across this video..and this...THIS!! is what you guys were hoping and praying for a sequel to..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k5Fd6fHNdsE

Is this a joke or is it a play to beleive it game ?

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let me guess you dont like it cause of its graphics and you dont see the fun in it. that game was a great game its older 2 and its still a great rts game starcraft forever!.
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Where videos of your console game from 1998 still being used to this day for official professional gaming leagues? 
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#4 Caramel_Fantasy
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:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|
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#5 Lanto
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I laugh at people who play Kingdom Hearts, but never played it myself. So I think I understand where you're coming from.

But yeah, its a play to believe type thing.  It's still the best RTS after nearly a decade.

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#6 mikemil828
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I was trying to see what all the hype about so I decided to go and search for the previous star craft. I came across this video..and this...THIS!! is what you guys were hoping and praying for a sequel to..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k5Fd6fHNdsE

Is this a joke or is it a play to beleive it game ?

TheCSPeaceMaker

 

I don't see what your problem is over a near 10 year old game 

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#7 dcm06
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great games doesnt have to always be fps :)
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Starcraft is nearly 10 years old, and it is still awesome.
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If this is the best flamebait you could come up with, I feel sorry for you.
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#10 TheCSPeaceMaker
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:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|Caramel_Fantasy

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

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[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|TheCSPeaceMaker

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

Do you consider yourself a gamer?

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[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|TheCSPeaceMaker

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

Dude. Theres is no game thats nearly 10 years old thats still being used for gaming competitions other than Starcraft due to its incredible balance and gameplay. 

Its like getting a direct sequal to Final Fantasy Tactics or Sonic. These games have lasted throughout time and still have been great. Except Starcraft is ALOT bigger than their FFT or Sonic. 

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It doesn't stray far from the blueprint created by its predecessors, but it is, without a doubt, the best game to ever adhere to that formula.

Passing judgment on the most eagerly anticipated game of the last few years is no easy task; it's difficult to set aside prejudices that would sway one's opinion either way. Let's face it: Starcraft comes with a great deal of anticipatory baggage, and it would be easy to say that it's either a huge disappointment or the greatest thing since real-time strategy became a household phrase. Truth is, it's neither. Weighed on its own merits, Starcraft is an extremely well-crafted game, albeit one with a few notable problems. It doesn't stray far from the blueprint created by its predecessors (namely the Warcrafts and Command & Conquers), but it is, without a doubt, the best game to ever adhere to that formula.

Starcraft offers a lengthy single-player campaign featuring ten missions for its three diverse races, totaling 30 single-player missions in all (there's also an unsupported veteran campaign included as part of the campaign editor). The story is compelling enough to make playing through all three worthwhile, and the campaign difficulty is tiered so that each is more challenging than the last. While this may seem like an uninteresting point, it helps Starcraft to avoid the problem that has plagued every other game in the genre: Each side is not the same. You don't have to go through a set of training missions once you've already mastered one side. The missions themselves mainly stick to the "gather, build, and conquer" philosophy, but there are a few innovative missions thrown in, and Blizzard has added some narrative elements to the missions themselves that help to keep things interesting. With the exception of the installation missions (in which you are given a handful of units to raid an enemy base, an attempt to break from the mold that is only occasionally successful), the missions are well designed. The solo player also has the option of skirmish missions, though the computer opponents have the annoying ability to see everything you are doing and defend accordingly, making the dreaded "rush" tactic one of the only viable means of emerging victorious.

Starcraft offers an equally nice suite of options on the multiplayer side: There's head-to-head and up to eight-player battles over LAN or Internet (though Internet play is only available over Blizzard's Battle.net server, which includes a ranking list and seems to be as lag-free as it gets nowadays). There is a good variety of multiplayer game types, and you can easily download new maps. Multiplayer has its own set of negatives, the major one being the predominance of rushing. Like it or not, creating a horde of the most basic units and attacking the enemy immediately is an effective tactic. Only a heavily defended base will survive an early rush of Terran Marines or Protoss Zealots. Starcraft has a built-in safeguard to discourage rushing, but it's one of the game's most problematic areas.

This safeguard is in the interface, which only allows you to select 12 units at a time. This isn't especially effective, considering six Zealots will smoke a base early in the game. The selectable unit cap does make rushing more difficult, but it also becomes frustrating at times, especially for those used to the ability to select unlimited units at once. Often, selecting the chosen units from a large group becomes a time-consuming effort. During battle, it can be an exercise in frustration. You can assign groups to hotkeys quite easily, however, lessening the frustration of the selectable unit cap - but this system isn't nearly as good as in Total Annihilation or Dark Reign, and units aren't marked by their group number like in said games. Multiplayer battles can often be decided by who has the best manual dexterity and can overcome the built-in limitations of the interface the most quickly.

Recent real-time innovations regarding unit control are included, with mixed results. Each production facility can have up to five units queued at once. There's a waypoint system, patrolling, and the like - but many of these options aren't particularly well implemented, and some of the options seem tacked on. On the other hand, pathing is great, with only occasional glitches (where a unit will run around in cute little circles). Starcraft most notably lacks the ability to define unit behavior (as in Dark Reign or Total Annihilation), leading to much micromanagement.

What Starcraft does have, though, is personality. Playing any of the three races is a notably different experience. You have the Terrans, "space trailer trash" with moving buildings; the frightening, insect-like Zerg who can burrow underground; and the hi-tech Protoss who can easily construct many buildings at a time. Each race features totally different units, often with no equivalents on the other side, differing construction and repair principles, and even different (though equally effective) interface art. Blizzard has managed to keep it well balanced despite the great diversity. One of the greatest things about Starcraft is that no unit is ever rendered obsolete during the course of a game. Each unit is key in certain situations, and you'll still be relying on your most basic ground units in the endgame.

Aesthetically, Starcraft is impressive. Graphically, it stands alongside Age of Empires as the best-looking 2D strategy game around. What it lacks in visual innovation it makes up for in style; the unit and building animations are highly detailed and imaginative. There are some nice translucency effects, such as the flickering shields on Protoss units. The tilesets and maps are varied and interesting, and the unit portraits are expressive and realistic. And the cinematics, of which there are many, are outstanding. The only real complaints about the visuals are that the viewing area is a little small (the bottom quarter of the screen is occupied by the interface), and the minimap presents only rudimentary information. The music, apart from some new-agey Terran tunes, is appropriately melodic and dark, the sound effects are believable and distinct, and the voice acting is great, bringing the characters to life.

Starcraft's personality goes a long way towards rendering its minor shortcomings obsolete. The game has so much life in it - whether in the great, narrative-driven single-player campaign or the multitude of multiplayer options - you won't grow tired of it anytime soon. And even if you blow through it all, there's an incredibly versatile editor that allows you to create your own full-featured campaigns, right down to spoken introductions and triggered events within missions. It all comes down to this: Starcraft may not do anything particularly new, but it does the real-time thing as well or better than any game before it. If you're willing to give the formula another go, Starcraft is highly recommended.

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[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|TheCSPeaceMaker

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

PC Gamers aren't about "winning this gen", that's for silly console fanboys to bicker about between themselves. 

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#15 SailorMars
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It looks pretty fun to me.
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Don't hate.  RTS >>> all else.
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#17 16bitkevin
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It's Starcraft....
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#18 Darkslayer16
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:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|Caramel_Fantasy

if you never heard of starcraft your not a gamer... and not all good games have to be shooters..

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#19 ArisShadows
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Play the damn game and you will figure why. Don't judge a book by its cover and don't judge a game by how it looks. I been playing this game for over a half of decade or so.
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#20 raiden509
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oh were dead serious do yourself a favor go out buy a copy of starcraft and get back to me about not likeing it
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[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|Darkslayer16

if you never heard of starcraft your not a gamer... and not all good games have to be shooters..

Seconded. Crisco... who hasn't heard of Starcraft? That's like never having played a Mario game... hello?

 

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|TheCSPeaceMaker

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

Umm... it's. Freaking. Starcraft. It's like not knowing about Sonic the Hedgehog. Y'know, Sonic? He's blue - he runs real fast? 

Please my fellow console gamers - stop embarassing your better breathern, okay? What next, a hermit saying "Chrono Trigger... I thought it was a time-traveling fps! Why's it some lame JRPG?" 

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#22 Lanto
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I think I've lost respect for all console gamers now.
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#23 peacebringer
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I was trying to see what all the hype about so I decided to go and search for the previous star craft. I came across this video..and this...THIS!! is what you guys were hoping and praying for a sequel to..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k5Fd6fHNdsE

Is this a joke or is it a play to beleive it game ?

TheCSPeaceMaker
this just shows that most the people we argue with in SW have no idea about the history of games.
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[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|TheCSPeaceMaker

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time. 

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

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#25 Truth-slayer
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Starcraft is not just a game for Hermits....anyone who has any taste in gaming what so ever has atleast played and enjoyed the game.
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#26 ArisShadows
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I think I've lost respect for all console gamers now.Lanto

More like uninformed console gamers.

Me => Console Gamers ... Starcraft = Favorite Game of all time.

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[QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|MyLargefeet

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time. 

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Gaming is a hobby. Taking it that serious is pretty geeky. Professional gamers ? What makes them any different from a skilled gamer who plays games as a hobby. What has this world come to.

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#28 ArisShadows
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Starcraft is not just a game for Hermits....anyone who has any taste in gaming what so ever has atleast played and enjoyed the game. Truth-slayer

I agree on that, it may be on the PC, but it surely a game enjoyed by all. Hell I know a few people who play it and I was suprized that even consider such games.

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[QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|MyLargefeet

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft?

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Yep you pretty much summed up Console gamers. This year it was Gears next year it'll be Halo 3 next it'll be whatever is the next shiny mess they make for the consoles. Console will never get PC gaming till they get the PC in there hous buy s graphics card for it and actually play the games. if you don't play them you can not compare them. i on the other hand play PC games and console games and Handheld games , i know the differance it's hard to see what the hoopla is about if you havn't played it. Ask you dad if he know what Starcraft is and your be surpirsed with the answer if he's played games before.
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[QUOTE="MyLargefeet"][QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|Caramel_Fantasy

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time.

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Gaming is a hobby. Taking it that serious is pretty geeky. Professional gamers ? What makes them any different from a skilled gamer who plays games as a hobby. What has this world come to.

They're actual celebrities, pretty fascinating if you ask me. 

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[QUOTE="MyLargefeet"][QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|Caramel_Fantasy

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time.

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Gaming is a hobby. Taking it that serious is pretty geeky. Professional gamers ? What makes them any different from a skilled gamer who plays games as a hobby. What has this world come to.

Pro gamers get paid to play....Just like a pro basketball player gets paid to play on a team. Or are you saying that there shouldnt be pro basketball players?

Yes, Starcraft is a national sport and the most popular national sport in South Korea. The top people earn something like the equivalent of $200,000 USD a year.

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#32 Zenkuso
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Go back 10years, play it and then tell the guy next to you it isn't impressive. This game is a freakin icon to an entire GENRE! It is and will always be a mile stone in gaming, you think it looks boring? Great i don't care because its a great game.
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[QUOTE="MyLargefeet"][QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|Caramel_Fantasy

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time.

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Gaming is a hobby. Taking it that serious is pretty geeky. Professional gamers ? What makes them any different from a skilled gamer who plays games as a hobby. What has this world come to.

the differance is they play for money and are to good to play on random servers....
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#34 Tarmgar
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Never played it before.....wow.  You, shoo.
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#35 MyLargefeet
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[QUOTE="MyLargefeet"][QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|Caramel_Fantasy

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time.

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Gaming is a hobby. Taking it that serious is pretty geeky. Professional gamers ? What makes them any different from a skilled gamer who plays games as a hobby. What has this world come to.

 

There used to be times when sports were just sports. Now they take it seriously.

 

These pro gamers get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars every year. That's still a good start. 

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Go back 10years, play it and then tell the guy next to you it isn't impressive. This game is a freakin icon to an entire GENRE! It is and will always be a mile stone in gaming, you think it looks boring? Great i don't care because its a great game.Zenkuso

Nicely said.

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Thsoe who haven't played Starcraft should be buying it ASAP. It's $20, it's still in stores and it can be played on any modern PC known to man.
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Thsoe who haven't played Starcraft should be buying it ASAP. It's $20, it's still in stores and it can be played on any modern PC known to man.Redmoonxl2

Just be careful going online, you will get absolutely destroyed the first few times. 

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[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"][QUOTE="MyLargefeet"][QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|XaosII

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time.

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Gaming is a hobby. Taking it that serious is pretty geeky. Professional gamers ? What makes them any different from a skilled gamer who plays games as a hobby. What has this world come to.

Pro gamers get paid to play....Just like a pro basketball player gets paid to play on a team. Or are you saying that there shouldnt be pro basketball players?

Yes, Starcraft is a national sport and the most popular national sport in South Korea. The top people earn something like the equivalent of $200,000 USD a year.

A national sport ? Right. :roll: Sports actually require Physical activity , not sitting at a a desk, wasting your life and clicking a mouse repeatedly. Thats in no way active, nor does it involve any type of physical exertion to your body.

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I think I've lost respect for all console gamers now.Lanto
He isnt a gamer, he is just someone who happens to own a console and maybe play on it, but does not appreciate the greatness of games like Starcraft. Big Difference.

 

Whoever it was who brought up the  point about the longevity of Starcraft, I actually think that is a weakness of PC gamers not a strength. There is a difference between immersing yourself in a great game for several months, than playing the same game for over 10 years. The latter is very pathetic, no matter how good the game is.

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A national sport ? Right. :roll: Sports actually require Physical activity , not sitting at a a desk, wasting your life and clicking a mouse repeatedly. Thats in no way active, nor does it involve any type of physical exertion to your body.

Caramel_Fantasy

Then how come poker and chess are considered sports? :|

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[QUOTE="Lanto"]I think I've lost respect for all console gamers now.ArisShadows

More like uninformed console gamers.

Me => Console Gamers ... Starcraft = Favorite Game of all time.

Not all console gamers are that uninformed - what you're running into here is the uneducated, not the representatives of console gaming. If you've only gamed on PCs, you've missed a good 60 ~ 70% of the games you *need* to play to understand gaming - if you've only gamed on consoles & pcs, you've still missed a lot of the games you need to play.

Now, if you've played arcades, pcs, and consoles - then we'll talk. 

Go back 10years, play it and then tell the guy next to you it isn't impressive. This game is a freakin icon to an entire GENRE! It is and will always be a mile stone in gaming, you think it looks boring? Great i don't care because its a great game.Zenkuso


I can't believe how uniformed some people is. This is like not knowing about Mario - it's seriously as bad as not knowing about Mario. Starcraft is the game that *defines* the RTS genre, in the same way Quake spawned the online FPS, or Counterstrike really defined the modern FPS, or how Super Mario World is an iconic platformer...
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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"][QUOTE="MyLargefeet"][QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|Caramel_Fantasy

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time.

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Gaming is a hobby. Taking it that serious is pretty geeky. Professional gamers ? What makes them any different from a skilled gamer who plays games as a hobby. What has this world come to.

Pro gamers get paid to play....Just like a pro basketball player gets paid to play on a team. Or are you saying that there shouldnt be pro basketball players?

Yes, Starcraft is a national sport and the most popular national sport in South Korea. The top people earn something like the equivalent of $200,000 USD a year.

A national sport ? Right. :roll: Sports actually require Physical activity , not sitting at a a desk, wasting your life and clicking a mouse repeatedly. Thats in no way active, nor does it involve any type of physical exertion to your body.

no sports are not defined by just physical abilitys(poker is a sport and they show it on espn) sport is Competition of mind or Body. In the case of SC mind.
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hermit alot of these peopel arguing are not old enough to know about starcraft just move on and pertend you didn't read these blasphemy's
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[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"][QUOTE="MyLargefeet"][QUOTE="TheCSPeaceMaker"]

[QUOTE="Caramel_Fantasy"]:? Oh wow, I never heard of the game until now. But I assumed it was a Sci-fi FPS or something. That looks pretty boring and geeky. :|peacebringer

My thoughs exactly. Im not trying to bash it or anything...I just wow thought it was based on something epic when Hermits began saying we won this gen.

 

It's something that console only gamers never understand. Starcraft is being religiously played for almost a decade because of its immersive gameplay. Since console gamers go for the best new shiny things, so it's all about sequel after another. You guys tend to throw a game away if there is a new shiny thing on the market, so the games cannot possibly be as immersive as PC franchises. Can you name me a console game that has as large community and longevity as Counter Strike or Starcraft? It's also ironic that PC is the only platform that pushes the technology every year, and that all the demanding games such as Crysis is being developed for PC at the same time.

It's nothing geeky since the video you've watched was a match between two professional gamers in Korea. Their job is to play the game competitively just like any other athletes.

Gaming is a hobby. Taking it that serious is pretty geeky. Professional gamers ? What makes them any different from a skilled gamer who plays games as a hobby. What has this world come to.

Pro gamers get paid to play....Just like a pro basketball player gets paid to play on a team. Or are you saying that there shouldnt be pro basketball players?

Yes, Starcraft is a national sport and the most popular national sport in South Korea. The top people earn something like the equivalent of $200,000 USD a year.

A national sport ? Right. :roll: Sports actually require Physical activity , not sitting at a a desk, wasting your life and clicking a mouse repeatedly. Thats in no way active, nor does it involve any type of physical exertion to your body.

no sports are not defined by just physical abilitys(poker is a sport and they show it on espn) sport is Competition of mind or Body. In the case of SC mind.

There's an element of body too, you need to be quick with the KB/M :P 

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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Lanto"]I think I've lost respect for all console gamers now.subrosian

More like uninformed console gamers.

Me => Console Gamers ... Starcraft = Favorite Game of all time.

Not all console gamers are that uninformed - what you're running into here is the uneducated, not the representatives of console gaming. If you've only gamed on PCs, you've missed a good 60 ~ 70% of the games you *need* to play to understand gaming - if you've only gamed on consoles & pcs, you've still missed a lot of the games you need to play.

Now, if you've played arcades, pcs, and consoles - then we'll talk. 

Go back 10years, play it and then tell the guy next to you it isn't impressive. This game is a freakin icon to an entire GENRE! It is and will always be a mile stone in gaming, you think it looks boring? Great i don't care because its a great game.Zenkuso


I can't believe how uniformed some people is. This is like not knowing about Mario - it's seriously as bad as not knowing about Mario. Starcraft is the game that *defines* the RTS genre, in the same way Quake spawned the online FPS, or Counterstrike really defined the modern FPS, or how Super Mario World is an iconic platformer...

I do, I do!

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There's an element of body too, you need to be quick with the KB/M :P

Danm_999

300 actions per minute for top tiered players. That's overkill...

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#48 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

There's an element of body too, you need to be quick with the KB/M :P

Redmoonxl2

300 actions per minute for top tiered players. That's overkill...

Sports have nothing to do with physical activity. Heck, in the old days, sporting events were completely pointless as far as "building yourself physically" - the Aztecs sacrified the winners - oops.

Sports were created as a means of entertainment - that was it - it was physical feats in the roman times, or pointless bloodshed, because hey, they didn't have TV, and it was cool to see some guy have to fight a lion, or a guy with a net and spear fight a heavily armored guy armed with only a short knife.

It was a contest that people spectated for entertainment - all these "well that's not a real sport" arguements are bogus - tossing a football is no more useful than clicking a mouse, or vice versa.

However, and this is in all honesty, the pro gaming thing is a lame. In the traditional sports world, the pro athletes are guys who really have dedicated themselves to the sport, and have had the right training, genetics, diet, et cetera for years. There aren't a lot of people sitting around in their underwear eating ice cream at 3am who could just wander off and beat michael jordan in a 1v1 game.

In gaming, however, I've beaten "pro level" Halo players, and I've taken pro tour M:tG players to the cleaners. Regional champ? Thanks for your ante, it's been real...  I'm a skilled gamer because it's my hobby, but I don't have the time / money to spend in tournaments, and it's honestly not something I would enjoy staking my livelyhood on... so in that way I somewhat feel that the pro gamers don't represent the *best* - simply the best of those who had nothing better to do.

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A national sport ? Right. :roll: Sports actually require Physical activity , not sitting at a a desk, wasting your life and clicking a mouse repeatedly. Thats in no way active, nor does it involve any type of physical exertion to your body.

Caramel_Fantasy

You are kidding...right? So, if you are not running around physically exerting yourself it should not be played professionally? What the hell!? As someone else said, go tell that to all the chess players of the world. And geeky? If you are a gamer you at least have some geek in you. I don't care if you only play macho Halo, only sports games or Starcraft professionally...you are a geek.

And there is nothing wrong with that. The fact that geek is used as a negative assessment of a person these days is absolutely pathetic.  

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#50 tool_rage
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lol @ thread title.  "You Hermits cant be serious" 

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