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#1 shungokustasu
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That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.
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I came to a conclusion last night. You are only a gamer if you have played Chrono Trigger.
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#3 cakeorrdeath
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True but uneeded.
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That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.shungokustasu
Well you can't enjoy the "value" in "ALL" games if you don't own all systrems. Don't hate what you don't own. You can't play LP or Halo or Mass Effect. So, "GAMER", explain that.
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True but uneeded.cakeorrdeath
Oh, it was needed. I was seeing posts that was saying so.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.dhjohns
Well you can't enjoy the "value" in "ALL" games if you don't own all systrems. Don't hate what you don't own. You can't play LP or Halo or Mass Effect. So, "GAMER", explain that.

Wow...so you have to buy something to appreciates it's value? I'm glad the painting of the sixteen chapel is in everyone's home...
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I came to a conclusion last night. You are only a gamer if you have played Chrono Trigger.foxhound_fox
That's not fair either.
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#8 JimmyT2
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If you own even one system much less all 3 and your not a gamer than you have just wasted a lot of cash on something your not interested it :)
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#9 dhjohns
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.shungokustasu
Well you can't enjoy the "value" in "ALL" games if you don't own all systrems. Don't hate what you don't own. You can't play LP or Halo or Mass Effect. So, "GAMER", explain that.

Wow...so you have to buy something to appreciates it's value? I'm glad the painting of the sixteen chapel is in everyone's home...

No that was not my point. You stated that true gamers enjoy the value in all games not all syatems. Well the flawed logic behind this is that without all the sytems, you can't enjoy all the games. I listed three games that you don't have to like, but as a gamer that enjoys "all" games, you can;t play these. Why? You don't have a 360. Stay on point next time.
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"] No that was not my point. You stated that true gamers enjoy the value in all games not all syatems. Well the flawed logic behind this is that without all the sytems, you can't enjoy all the games. I listed three games that you don't have to like, but as a gamer that enjoys "all" games, you can;t play these. Why? You don't have a 360. Stay on point next time.

Who has time to enjoy ALL games anyway?
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#11 smokeydabear076
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I agree with the TC, even if you own all three systems, it does not make you any better than anyone else.
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"] No that was not my point. You stated that true gamers enjoy the value in all games not all syatems. Well the flawed logic behind this is that without all the sytems, you can't enjoy all the games. I listed three games that you don't have to like, but as a gamer that enjoys "all" games, you can;t play these. Why? You don't have a 360. Stay on point next time.Jandurin
Who has time to enjoy ALL games anyway?

Cyborgs.

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#13 lawlessx
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i chouldnt agree with you more... i will also like to add that only a true gamer will play a video game..and stop and notice the little things that make this game so great (lighting,textures,A.I,etc) i have ment with tons of so called "harcore gamers" that brag about playing tons of games and have no clue how the gaming industry works.
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I came to a conclusion last night. You are only a gamer if you have played Chrono Trigger.foxhound_fox
lol, you're also not a gamer if you haven't played Steel Battalion, Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan! (or 'imperishable night' and 'Drill Milky Punch' :P)
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="dhjohns"] No that was not my point. You stated that true gamers enjoy the value in all games not all syatems. Well the flawed logic behind this is that without all the sytems, you can't enjoy all the games. I listed three games that you don't have to like, but as a gamer that enjoys "all" games, you can;t play these. Why? You don't have a 360. Stay on point next time.

Who has time to enjoy ALL games anyway?

Agreed, but again read the original post.
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#16 dhjohns
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I agree with the TC, even if you own all three systems, it does not make you any better than anyone else.smokeydabear076
I don't think that was his point. I think he might of been trying to say that, which btw,, I agree with, but the OP talked about enjoying all games. This is not possible without all consoles.
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#17 xxThyLordxx
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agreed. just because you own all systems, means you are a manticore.

I own all systems(PS2, Xbox, GC, DC, PS1, N64, Snes, Nes, gameboy, gamegear, atari, psp, ds) but I am a big fat COW.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.dhjohns
Well you can't enjoy the "value" in "ALL" games if you don't own all systrems. Don't hate what you don't own. You can't play LP or Halo or Mass Effect. So, "GAMER", explain that.

Wow...so you have to buy something to appreciates it's value? I'm glad the painting of the sixteen chapel is in everyone's home...

No that was not my point. You stated that true gamers enjoy the value in all games not all syatems. Well the flawed logic behind this is that without all the sytems, you can't enjoy all the games. I listed three games that you don't have to like, but as a gamer that enjoys "all" games, you can;t play these. Why? You don't have a 360. Stay on point next time.

There is no flaw in my logic. The Sixteen chapel is the prime example. I don't have to have the painting in my house to know what it's good for painting. Same with the "Art of Gaming". I don't like FPS, but I can understand the the depth it brought to gaming. Your logic is saying that I have to play every game in order to appreciate it's worth. If that's the case, then we all are not gamers.
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"but will never buy a 360.." What's the name for this... I forgot. Anyone a little help ?
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I came to a conclusion last night. You are only a gamer if you have played Chrono Trigger.foxhound_fox

i agree..your not a TRUE rpg fan untill you have played chrono trigger 8)

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A true gamer is someone who gaves a game on any system the benefit of the doubt. If you use bias toward any game because it is not on your system of choice, you are a fanboy. And since manticores have the less motive to act as fanboys, they call themselves true games since they have all consoles, they have less of a motivation to baselessy hate on a game. Good day.
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If you own all 3 your opinion is much more valid for comparing the systems than people who dont
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#23 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I agree with the TC, even if you own all three systems, it does not make you any better than anyone else.dhjohns
I don't think that was his point. I think he might of been trying to say that, which btw,, I agree with, but the OP talked about enjoying all games. This is not possible without all consoles.

I'm not saying play all games. I'm saying appreciating it's value of all games.
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.shungokustasu
Well you can't enjoy the "value" in "ALL" games if you don't own all systrems. Don't hate what you don't own. You can't play LP or Halo or Mass Effect. So, "GAMER", explain that.

Wow...so you have to buy something to appreciates it's value? I'm glad the painting of the sixteen chapel is in everyone's home...

No that was not my point. You stated that true gamers enjoy the value in all games not all syatems. Well the flawed logic behind this is that without all the sytems, you can't enjoy all the games. I listed three games that you don't have to like, but as a gamer that enjoys "all" games, you can;t play these. Why? You don't have a 360. Stay on point next time.

There is no flaw in my logic. The Sixteen chapel is the prime example. I don't have to have the painting in my house to know what it's good for painting. Same with the "Art of Gaming". I don't like FPS, but I can understand the the depth it brought to gaming. Your logic is saying that I have to play every game in order to appreciate it's worth. If that's the case, then we all are not gamers.

Yes I wonder how many people here have learnt Japanese so they can play all of the games that only get released there. As far as I'm concerned anyone who plays games is a gamer, even if it's just tetris.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I came to a conclusion last night. You are only a gamer if you have played Chrono Trigger.lawlessx

i agree..your not a TRUE rpg fan untill you have played chrono trigger 8)

That's fair. Not a true RPG gamer unless you've played Chrono Trigger.
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"] No that was not my point. You stated that true gamers enjoy the value in all games not all syatems. Well the flawed logic behind this is that without all the sytems, you can't enjoy all the games. I listed three games that you don't have to like, but as a gamer that enjoys "all" games, you can;t play these. Why? You don't have a 360. Stay on point next time.Jandurin
Who has time to enjoy ALL games anyway?

Nobody has ever played ALL games, but when gaming is a passsion you dont find time you make time

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[QUOTE="Felous1"]"but will never buy a 360.." What's the name for this... I forgot. Anyone a little help ?

Yeah go ahead knock it. Still, I'm right.
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#28 Blackbond
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Myths of System Wars Fanboys

  • You are not a true gamer unless you own all systems
  • You are not a true gamer if you buy a Wii
  • You are not a true gamer if you never try a Wii
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If you own all 3 your opinion is much more valid for comparing the systems than people who dontmmogoon

Good point and valid on a forum called system wars. It would still be opinion but at least it would be an informed opinion.

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I own a Wii, a DS and a PC, and I defy you to call me a non-gamer!!
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[QUOTE="mmogoon"]If you own all 3 your opinion is much more valid for comparing the systems than people who dontJimmyT2

Good point and valid on a forum called system wars. It would still be opinion but at least it would be an informed opinion.

We're not debating on where you opinion holds water. We debating the fact of a 'gamer' is. You don't have to buy every console to prove you a gamer. You just proving that either you rich or know how to save money.
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I own a Wii, a DS and a PC, and I defy you to call me a non-gamer!!Metrovania

Sorry but if you don't own a Gizmondo your not a gamer.

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[QUOTE="Metrovania"]I own a Wii, a DS and a PC, and I defy you to call me a non-gamer!!JimmyT2

Sorry but if you don't own a Gizmondo your not a gamer.

hahaha, then I must bow my head in shame... :(
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Yep, even fanboys are gamers.
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That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.shungokustasu
To play ALL GAMES, you must own ALL consoles. I don't think that it makes me cool because I have all 3 consoles... actually I feel slightly embarassed that I spent $1250 (before tax, games, and accessories) on a bunch of gaming systems.
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What if you have all three systems this gen but only 1 game for each?  Does that make you a better gamer than someone who has 50 games for one system?
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.donalbane
To play ALL GAMES, you must own ALL consoles. I don't think that it makes me cool because I have all 3 consoles... actually I feel slightly embarassed that I spent $1250 (before tax, games, and accessories) on a bunch of gaming systems.

Agreed. I try and not let my gf know the true cost.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.donalbane
To play ALL GAMES, you must own ALL consoles. I don't think that it makes me cool because I have all 3 consoles... actually I feel slightly embarassed that I spent $1250 (before tax, games, and accessories) on a bunch of gaming systems.

I didn't say play. Read post again.
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.dhjohns
To play ALL GAMES, you must own ALL consoles. I don't think that it makes me cool because I have all 3 consoles... actually I feel slightly embarassed that I spent $1250 (before tax, games, and accessories) on a bunch of gaming systems.

Agreed. I try and not let my gf know the true cost.

the words playing and appreciates or two totally different meanins. This is where Manticores are confuse.
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.shungokustasu
To play ALL GAMES, you must own ALL consoles. I don't think that it makes me cool because I have all 3 consoles... actually I feel slightly embarassed that I spent $1250 (before tax, games, and accessories) on a bunch of gaming systems.

Agreed. I try and not let my gf know the true cost.

the words playing and appreciates or two totally different meanins. This is where Manticores are confuse.

Whatever... I take it you get this idea, though. And what better way to appreciate a game than playing it a lot?
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.donalbane
To play ALL GAMES, you must own ALL consoles. I don't think that it makes me cool because I have all 3 consoles... actually I feel slightly embarassed that I spent $1250 (before tax, games, and accessories) on a bunch of gaming systems.

Agreed. I try and not let my gf know the true cost.

the words playing and appreciates or two totally different meanins. This is where Manticores are confuse.

Whatever... I take it you get this idea, though. And what better way to appreciate a game than playing it a lot?

True, but that's not the argument. Some manticore think they are true gamers, and the sheep, lemmings, cow are not. Which is not true.
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#42 A_zombie
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So owning an Atari 26000, NES, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar, PS1, N64, Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, 360, Wii a gaming PC and pretty soon the PS3, doesn't make me a gamer? OMG! WHATEVER WILL I DO!

I'm a gamer and nothing will change that.

P.S.
Don't get me started on the handhelds.  

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#43 dhjohns
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.shungokustasu
To play ALL GAMES, you must own ALL consoles. I don't think that it makes me cool because I have all 3 consoles... actually I feel slightly embarassed that I spent $1250 (before tax, games, and accessories) on a bunch of gaming systems.

Agreed. I try and not let my gf know the true cost.

the words playing and appreciates or two totally different meanins. This is where Manticores are confuse.

Whatever... I take it you get this idea, though. And what better way to appreciate a game than playing it a lot?

True, but that's not the argument. Some manticore think they are true gamers, and the sheep, lemmings, cow are not. Which is not true.

No that thought process is just plain silly. Oh, I did forget that we are in SW, where logic and reality are suspended!
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#44 lzorro
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I agree :) Hope that made your day.
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#45 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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You are not a gamer if you haven't played Mario, Zelda and Metroid. =)
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#46 Dahaka-UK
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This is like so dumb, your a gamer if you play games... Wow was that so hard... if I played 1 game thoughout my entire lifetime and enjoyed it.. that makes me a gamer lol..
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#47 HazeNPopes
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True but you`re not a gamer if you`re a Hardcore fanboy of one system.
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#48 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.donalbane
To play ALL GAMES, you must own ALL consoles. I don't think that it makes me cool because I have all 3 consoles... actually I feel slightly embarassed that I spent $1250 (before tax, games, and accessories) on a bunch of gaming systems.

Agreed. I try and not let my gf know the true cost.

the words playing and appreciates or two totally different meanins. This is where Manticores are confuse.

Whatever... I take it you get this idea, though. And what better way to appreciate a game than playing it a lot?

think if it this way..do i have to touch a flower to appreciate its beauty? of course not.. its the same with video gamer and video games..a gamer doesnt have to actually play a game to apprecitate it.
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#49 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"] No that thought process is just plain silly. Oh, I did forget that we are in SW, where logic and reality are suspended!

Insult is a defense mechanism to ignore the truth.
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#50 Sgt_Hale
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]That's right, I said it. You're no better than anybody else. Don't act high and mighty calling yourself a gamer because you own all consoles. That doesn't define a gamer. I have a Wii and a PS3, but will never buy a 360. Does that not make me a gamer. NO!!!! So, you manticores stop putting the idea of a true gamer is someone with all consoles. Gamers are the ones who appreciates value in ALL Games not ALL consoles.dhjohns
Well you can't enjoy the "value" in "ALL" games if you don't own all systrems. Don't hate what you don't own. You can't play LP or Halo or Mass Effect. So, "GAMER", explain that.

Wow...so you have to buy something to appreciates it's value? I'm glad the painting of the sixteen chapel is in everyone's home...

No that was not my point. You stated that true gamers enjoy the value in all games not all syatems. Well the flawed logic behind this is that without all the sytems, you can't enjoy all the games. I listed three games that you don't have to like, but as a gamer that enjoys "all" games, you can;t play these. Why? You don't have a 360. Stay on point next time.

Actually he was on point... he can enjoy the value of a game without having to play the game himself. I think what he intends to say is that he can appreciate games for what they bring to gaming even if they aren't games that he himself wants to play.

You can be a gamer and only have one system... if it is the system that produces the type of games you like to play. Being a gamer doesn't mean liking every type of game, or even every genre of gaming.... A hardcore is recognized by the amount of time he puts into his gaming. Someone could own all 3 systems b/c somone else bought them while the 'gamer' hardly spends much time with any of them.... that would not be a true gamer, even though he'd be considered a manticore. Yet someone else could choose just one system they're going to invest all of their discretionary income & time in, and they'd be considered a real gamer.

I have owned every system in the past and have been gaming for over 23 yrs... The PS3 is currently the only system I'm interested in b/c of the game lineup the system has and the addition of blu ray. If enough games come out for the other systems that I'm interested in, I'd buy them but I won't be buying them before then.... And I'm just as hardcore as they come. Point blank, a hardcore doesn't buy systems for games they're NOT interested in.