Your Opinion on Achievements/Trophies?

Came across this funny video and it got me thinking......

So now that Microsoft has started achievements, and has been thinking about awarding gamers "achievement points" for completing certain tasks outside of games, and other companies like Sony and Valve's Steam have jumped on the bandwagon with "trophies" and such, what's everyone's opinion on achievements or trophies in games? Do they make them better or add replay value to it? Do they irritate you when you work so hard to get them and the reward is so little??

Discuss!!!

http://www.illwillpress.com/ACH22.html

they're alright to get,depending on if the condition on getting thhem is cool or not.I'm not one of those tools that will play crap games like avatar,or disney games just for the easy achievement/trophy.

A good game shouldnt need either achievements or trophies in order to have replay value.

That is so full of win... :shock:

"You posted a cool link in SW"

ACHIEVEMENT!!!!

Lol no matter how much I play my 360 and Ps3 I can't get above 10,000 gamer score or level 2

So yar I hate trophies and achievements 'cos they destroyed my uber gamer delusion :P

They're fun little extras, but not necessary when a game can stand on its own without them. And I have a small rant about the RE5 trophies. I think it's bull **** that you have to buy the DLC costumes or whatever to get 100%.

They're fun little extras, but not necessary when a game can stand on its own without them. And I have a small rant about the RE5 trophies. I think it's bull **** that you have to buy the DLC costumes or whatever to get 100%.

lolfaqs

I especially hate hidden achievements, how am i supposed to know what to do to get it?? how exactly does that extend replay value if i dont know what to do?? I hope PS3 devs dont pick up that habit :Pnavyguy21

I especially hate hidden achievements, how am i supposed to know what to do to get it?? how exactly does that extend replay value if i dont know what to do?? I hope PS3 devs dont pick up that habit :Pnavyguy21

Too late. They're already out there in several games.

They're fun little extras, but not necessary when a game can stand on its own without them. And I have a small rant about the RE5 trophies. I think it's bull **** that you have to buy the DLC costumes or whatever to get 100%.

lolfaqs

You dont need the dlc ones to get a plat. They are just there if you buy the dlc you have some trophies to try for thats all. I should know I got a plat in RE5. ON topic I say they are fun to get. Also they add replay vaule to a game espcially if the game is good.

I like them. Getting a token reward for a meta-game task somehow makes it more satisfying, despite how insignificant the reward is.

I would like it if more games had achievements that are actually meta-games, instead of giving you 20 points when you beat a level.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]I especially hate hidden achievements, how am i supposed to know what to do to get it?? how exactly does that extend replay value if i dont know what to do?? I hope PS3 devs dont pick up that habit :PVoodooHak

Too late. They're already out there in several games.

I especially hate hidden achievements, how am i supposed to know what to do to get it?? how exactly does that extend replay value if i dont know what to do?? I hope PS3 devs dont pick up that habit :Pnavyguy21

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

They're fun little extras, but not necessary when a game can stand on its own without them. And I have a small rant about the RE5 trophies. I think it's bull **** that you have to buy the DLC costumes or whatever to get 100%.

IronBass

Go and compare the trophies to someone else on your friends list. Even if you have the platinum it will say 85% complete.

the video was full of win, achievements are lame if you get carried away and act like its a big accomplishment. Trophies on the other hand :D Check out my trophy number and percentage 8) Oh yeah.Swift_Boss_A

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]I especially hate hidden achievements, how am i supposed to know what to do to get it?? how exactly does that extend replay value if i dont know what to do?? I hope PS3 devs dont pick up that habit :Pnavyguy21

Too late. They're already out there in several games.

i h8 trophies and wish stupid sony didnt tack them on

actually a negative factor in my not getting a ps3

achievements are lame if you get carried away and act like its a big accomplishment. Trophies on the other hand :DSwift_Boss_A

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

They're fun little extras, but not necessary when a game can stand on its own without them. And I have a small rant about the RE5 trophies. I think it's bull **** that you have to buy the DLC costumes or whatever to get 100%.

Go and compare the trophies to someone else on your friends list. Even if you have the platinum it will say 85% complete.

Came across this funny video and it got me thinking......

So now that Microsoft has started achievements, and has been thinking about awarding gamers "achievement points" for completing certain tasks outside of games, and other companies like Sony and Valve's Steam have jumped on the bandwagon with "trophies" and such, what's everyone's opinion on achievements or trophies in games? Do they make them better or add replay value to it? Do they irritate you when you work so hard to get them and the reward is so little??

Discuss!!!

http://www.illwillpress.com/ACH22.html

navyguy21

Achievements and trophies are a cheap way for developers add playtime to a game over including bonus unlockable content.

It's an abomination.

i h8 trophies and wish stupid sony didnt tack them on

actually a negative factor in my not getting a ps3

I just play the game. And if I like it enough, I'll replay it. If trophies/achievements come, then all the better.

Achievements are a little better. I mean who wants a Bronze Trophie ? I sure as hell dont. I'm American Sonic_on_crack

the video was full of win, achievements are lame if you get carried away and act like its a big accomplishment. Trophies on the other hand :D Check out my trophy number and percentage 8) Oh yeah.Swift_Boss_A

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Too late. They're already out there in several games.

Giancar

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]Achievements are a little better. I mean who wants a Bronze Trophie ? I sure as hell dont. I'm American Dr_Snood

[QUOTE="BobSacamento"]

i h8 trophies and wish stupid sony didnt tack them on

actually a negative factor in my not getting a ps3

Dr_Snood

iiii dont know they just feel cheap and arbitrary

i may force myself to get some achievements to up my gamescore but i never see myself trying to get more trophies i just dont care lol

iiii dont know

[QUOTE="BobSacamento"]

i h8 trophies and wish stupid sony didnt tack them on

actually a negative factor in my not getting a ps3

Dr_Snood

There is none. Only if you wear fanboy glasses theres a big difference,but if you look at it with actual clear logic eyes then you can see theres no real dif at all. Execpt one is points and one is trophies.

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]the video was full of win, achievements are lame if you get carried away and act like its a big accomplishment. Trophies on the other hand :D Check out my trophy number and percentage 8) Oh yeah.navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

Came across this funny video and it got me thinking......

So now that Microsoft has started achievements, and has been thinking about awarding gamers "achievement points" for completing certain tasks outside of games, and other companies like Sony and Valve's Steam have jumped on the bandwagon with "trophies" and such, what's everyone's opinion on achievements or trophies in games? Do they make them better or add replay value to it? Do they irritate you when you work so hard to get them and the reward is so little??

Discuss!!!

http://www.illwillpress.com/ACH22.html

Gxgear

Achievements and trophies are a cheap way for developers add playtime to a game over including bonus unlockable content.

It's an abomination.

Unlockables haven't gone away. They're still there as much as they ever were.

Trophies, achievements, unlockables, loot, high scores.... they all the serve the same purpose. They're small rewards for things you've done in a game. Trophies and achievements have the benefit (and high scores to a less extent) of being tied to a universal ID, being saved in a database and viewable to the rest of the world if you want it to be.

I don't think they're either good or bad. They are what they are... just another addition to the evolving landscape of gaming.

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] Which games??? I hope its not any that i was thinking about getting :P Please, PLEASE tell me its not killzone 2!!! I thought i was getting close to getting all of them :cry:navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Giancar"] how couldn't you know there are hidden trophies in kz2? those are clearly showed? anyways those hidden trophies in kz2 aren't hard at all to getDr_Snood

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I didnt know because i dont look for them like i do on 360, if i get them, then i get them, but with killzone, i wanted to earn them all for bragging rights :P, but honestly, its just not as easy as it is on 360 to just bring them up, and i hardly play my PS3 anyway. This seems to be a sad trend then, hidden achievements/trophies are a BAD idea, is there a site like achievements360 where i can find out about the hidden ones??navyguy21

Your Opinion on Achievements/Trophies?

navyguy21

[QUOTE="Dr_Snood"][QUOTE="BobSacamento"]

i h8 trophies and wish stupid sony didnt tack them on

actually a negative factor in my not getting a ps3

finalfantasy94

There is none. Only if you wear fanboy glasses theres a big difference,but if you look at it with actual clear logic eyes then you can see theres no real dif at all. Execpt one is points and one is trophies.

naw man im just wishing that if i got a ps3 it would be like my ps2

i mean i dont really care that much i guess its just how they are represented i cant explain i look at someones trophy card and its like

theres 9 different pieces of information to take in and after 10 seconds of looking at it i still cant tell if its good or not lol

im going to do extra stuff in games in an effort to make my white bar move 1/190th of an inch

Achievements/trophies are both good and bad in my opinion. On the one hand, they can add replay value to games that otherwise have next to none; but on the other hand they seem to be giving the wrong focus to a lot of gamers these days. Games are about it's experiences (story, gameplay, atmosphere, etc) and it's overall entertainment value, and it seems many gamers these days tend to be purely focused on their trophies/achievements. I know plenty of people who simply play games to get the achievements/trophies regardless of whether or not they are having fun.

I always thought of it like this: we watch movies or read books for their entertainment value, just like video games. Just imagine if we added achievements/trophies to movies or books; now the focus and emphasis is taken away from their entertainment value. Isnt the real achievement the entertainment and fun we get from playing games, watching movies or reading books?

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]the video was full of win, achievements are lame if you get carried away and act like its a big accomplishment. Trophies on the other hand :D Check out my trophy number and percentage 8) Oh yeah.Episode_Eve

They're awesome and addicting, perhaps too much so. Just recently I was in a trophy battle with one of my PSN friends. It got to the point where I was just playing for the sole purpose of getting trophies. Hell I had Metal Gear Solid IV sitting on the shelf unplayed while I was playing lesser games just because MGS IV didn't have trophies. My wii was also being ignored and unlike many posters here, I love the Wii especially because of Wii-ware and Virtual Console (I have over 50 downloadable games for the Wii!). Eventually, I had to just stop. I didn't touch my PS3 for almost 2 weeks while I enjoyed my Wii. Now my friend has like a 60 trophy advantage on me and I can just relax and play and now worry about it.