I think they're a good addition, gives something more to work for in a game, considering how big games are getting these days. Though, some are very pointless and shouldn't have been added. Sadly I feel they're taken the wrong way when people use them to show off too much and try to tell people they're the best at a game just because they got "100 kills in Mortal Kombat" or some crap like that.
[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] Come on, be fair now, some trophies are lame too, like this one i got for killzone 2 - Popcorn Ribbon (Bronze): Watch all Killzone 2 cut scenes. :lol:
Giancar
I don't think there's a popcorn ribbon trophy for KZ2. it was a joke... It would have been funnier if he said that about MGS4 and IF MGS4 had trophies :\ because the cutscenes in KZ2 are at max 2 minutes or so :\ I figured. And I actually thought about MGS4 :lol:. So fitting.
Achievements got laughed up but they clearly have had an impact. Sony has them, Valve has them, it's not long before we see them in many more PC games. Fallout 3 already has them too on PC as well as GTA IV if I believe correctly.
I wish there was a universal achievement/trophy system across all platforms (actually I'd prefer Sony's Trophy system which is even more addicitive then Achievement points because you can level up the way you can at gamespot and also because of the different tiers of trophies including the all impressive platinum trophies). I know it would never happen, but I would love being able to play the best games for each system (and PC) and having all of my successes and accomplishments recording in one place. I mean, there's people that only play one system and thus have very high point/trophy totals and it sucks that someone looks at them and then someone looks at another player with less points and you would think that player might be less of a gamer which in actuallity the player might be someone who likes to play the best games regardless of what platform it is on.
[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] I don't think there's a popcorn ribbon trophy for KZ2.Episode_Eve
it was a joke... It would have been funnier if he said that about MGS4 and IF MGS4 had trophies :\ because the cutscenes in KZ2 are at max 2 minutes or so :\ I figured. And I actually thought about MGS4 :lol:. So fitting. Your right lol, i suprised i didnt think about it lol, then again, its been a while since a played it, ive been focusing on Uncharted, and Killzone 2 trophies lately, now i have MORE work to do since i found out about the hidden ones, but i dont really mind, Killzone 2 is great, i hope sales pick up, GG deserve better, why didnt sony advertise more?? :(
i think they are a waist of time. i only get the easy achievements in the game. i hate playing a game that is way to hard for me to beat. it would just get my frustrated so much that i would not touch the game again. they are good i guess, microsoft need to put something more into it then just some beep. i don't care to much about them. if i get an achievement then i get one.
Depends on a couple things: 1. Is the game itself (without achievements) fun? 2. What the achievements are In other words, I don't care about achievements for a game that I don't care about. If the game itself is not worth playing, why try to get achievements for it? And for those games that I do like, how fun are they to get? Does it present me with a new challenge, or a new way to play the game? I feel that these are the best kinds of achievements. No "beat this level" or "beat the game" achievements. Takes away from what could be a fun new way to play the game, and new challenges within the game.
Came across this funny video and it got me thinking......
So now that Microsoft has started achievements, and has been thinking about awarding gamers "achievement points" for completing certain tasks outside of games, and other companies like Sony and Valve's Steam have jumped on the bandwagon with "trophies" and such, what's everyone's opinion on achievements or trophies in games? Do they make them better or add replay value to it? Do they irritate you when you work so hard to get them and the reward is so little??
Got nothing against them, as they are a fun mean to an ends. I think they do add some replay to a game and are sometime a fun way to add some value to a game but they are not the end all be all of games. Take my gamerscore for example. It doesn't reflect the Wii games I play, the DS games I play or the PS2 games I play. Even then, some Xbox games have harder achievements so there really is not way to compare. In other words, I don't like the notion of playing just for achievements. Play for fun. Take Guitar Hero 3. Horrible achievements. Fun game. Don't let that stop you from enjoying that fun game. Still they are fun, and I think they were neat invention on Microsoft's end. Kudos to them.
I don't care about achievements that you get playing the game normally like "you beat the game or something like that" That is something that I would do regardless of whether or not the achievement existed. I like the achievements that require you to do something awesome like "blow up 20 zombies with a single pipe bomb" in Left 4 Dead.
Oh, and I think achievement whoring is dumb. I don't understand why anyone would play a game they don't like, or do something in a game that is unfun just to get a higher gamer score.
I enjoy trophies alot and to some extent steam achievements (wish there was a unified system), they add replay value to a game and add things to strive for even if they are artificial.
And some of them show some talent that you have as a gamer, but the video has a point. Some are just stupid and don't need to be there. While others are just silly stupid hard.
But overall I like them and at the end of the day they really don't affect the gameplay at all because they don't (usually) change anything about the game or make it more or less fun.
ever get one and your like.....why did i just do that?
BobSacamento
Lol... yeah Im playing Cod 2 and then boom, I get one for playing the intro. Then there is one In guitar hero II where you watch the credits and them boom...lol.
A complete waste of time, playing a game over and over just to get a achievement is such a waste of time, if the game is good it doesn't need achievements to make you play it over and over. All they do is give you bragging rights with your mates.
A complete waste of time, playing a game over and over just to get a achievement is such a waste of time, if the game is good it doesn't need achievements to make you play it over and over. All they do is give you bragging rights with your mates. imprezawrx500
A lot of people find it fun getting achievements/trophies.
ever get one and your like.....why did i just do that?
kyuss015
Lol... yeah Im playing Cod 2 and then boom, I get one for playing the intro. Then there is one In guitar hero II where you watch the credits and them boom...lol.
ever get one and your like.....why did i just do that?
BobSacamento
Lol... yeah Im playing Cod 2 and then boom, I get one for playing the intro. Then there is one In guitar hero II where you watch the credits and them boom...lol.
i was referring to more of a waste of time
like in HL2 i go and collect all the lambda logos
achievement unlocked - 30 points
and im left strangely unsatisfied
The points aren't the - er - point. It's really just to give you a sense that you officially accomplished something (something useless, but something, anyway), which I think is worth the effort.
Useless to me. I have tried to get trophies in Socom when it lagged bad...and one Mirror's Edge trophy just to see if I could beat the game without a gun as I planned on doing.
Lol... yeah Im playing Cod 2 and then boom, I get one for playing the intro. Then there is one In guitar hero II where you watch the credits and them boom...lol.
Cherokee_Jack
i was referring to more of a waste of time
like in HL2 i go and collect all the lambda logos
achievement unlocked - 30 points
and im left strangely unsatisfied
The points aren't the - er - point. It's really just to give you a sense that you officially accomplished something (something useless, but something, anyway), which I think is worth the effort. But it doesn't make me feel like I've accomplished anything. Some do, such as Left 4 Dead's kill 53635 zombies achievement, but then there are others that are extremely easy to get and are far more prevalent. Resident Evil 5's 'Complete Chapter 1-1', for example. It's not an accomplishment if 100% of the people who play the game get the same achievement.
They are pointless, You dont gain anything from them besides bragging rights. But those bragging rights just shows you how much time you wasted gettting something you cant use or gain. I know a few people that compare and compete, but I think its the dev's/MS's way to get those OCD prone people just to play those games to get the achievements trying to make the game last longer then it really is and to get them to buy them too.
Came across this funny video and it got me thinking......
So now that Microsoft has started achievements, and has been thinking about awarding gamers "achievement points" for completing certain tasks outside of games, and other companies like Sony and Valve's Steam have jumped on the bandwagon with "trophies" and such, what's everyone's opinion on achievements or trophies in games? Do they make them better or add replay value to it? Do they irritate you when you work so hard to get them and the reward is so little??
Discuss!!!
http://www.illwillpress.com/ACH22.html
navyguy21
I thank you so very very much for that link, it was full of so much win, I think I have enough win to carry me over until wednesday.
The points aren't the - er - point. It's really just to give you a sense that you officially accomplished something (something useless, but something, anyway), which I think is worth the effort. But it doesn't make me feel like I've accomplished anything. Some do, such as Left 4 Dead's kill 53635 zombies achievement, but then there are others that are extremely easy to get and are far more prevalent. Resident Evil 5's 'Complete Chapter 1-1', for example. It's not an accomplishment if 100% of the people who play the game get the same achievement. I've said that I don't like easy achievements that you get during the course of the game, like for completing a level. Those are lazy. I prefer achievements that you either have to go out of your way for (like finding easter eggs or collectibles), or are just really hard to get.
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