Youtuber DrTre makes a fool out of himself saying that PC gaming is irrelevant.

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#101 Blackbond
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Your King Has Returned

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#102 Chutebox
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Who and why the **** should I care?

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#103 blackace
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People like DrTre say that PC gaming is irrelevant, yet the PC gaming industry made at least $20 Billion during last year.

A video about it from BlackB0nd:

Link.

LOL.

Shinobi120
Who the @#$% is Dr. Tre? lmao. Why would anyone care what he has to say? This thread is stupid. Console gaming makes over $100 billion a year. It used to make a lot more then that, but the economy hasn't been good to console gaming that past 5 yrs. Hopefully that will change next-gen. As for PC gaming, it's still relevant. Don't listen to these fools on YouTube.
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#104 blackace
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he is speaking the truth. PC gamers are pirates and PC gaming only makes money off its social games.

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/22/ubisoft-pc-has-piracy-rate-of-93-95-f2p-the-future

Gue1
I think Yves Guillemot %'s are wrong. Yes, I think more people still pirate PC games then they buy, but the % is probably closure to 65-70%. It also depends on the game as well.
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#105 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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For real gamers it is irrelevant

Who wants to play generic MMOs for the masses, copy/pasted startegy games we have played a billion times before and 10.000.000 Diablo clones per year ?

PC gaming is a joke right now, all real games are exclusive to or on consoles

Also PC gamers destroy the industry by pirating games and thus things like free to play garbage, DRM, only online SINGLE PLAYER games etc have appeared

The good news is that PS4 is light years ahead of PC with its unique unified design and all developers are shifting to consoles, Witcher 2-3, Diablo 3 were the last forts to fall

loosingENDS


This pretty much

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#106 lostrib
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

For real gamers it is irrelevant

Who wants to play generic MMOs for the masses, copy/pasted startegy games we have played a billion times before and 10.000.000 Diablo clones per year ?

PC gaming is a joke right now, all real games are exclusive to or on consoles

Also PC gamers destroy the industry by pirating games and thus things like free to play garbage, DRM, only online SINGLE PLAYER games etc have appeared

The good news is that PS4 is light years ahead of PC with its unique unified design and all developers are shifting to consoles, Witcher 2-3, Diablo 3 were the last forts to fall

Davekeeh


This pretty much

...is not true

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#107 FireEmblem_Man
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Blackbond

You keep saying that, yet you don't stick around!

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#108 Tessellation
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lol youtube nerds,doesn't matter which side.
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#109 OneInchMan99
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Youtubers = people with opinions.LOL

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#110 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

For real gamers it is irrelevant

Who wants to play generic MMOs for the masses, copy/pasted startegy games we have played a billion times before and 10.000.000 Diablo clones per year ?

PC gaming is a joke right now, all real games are exclusive to or on consoles

Also PC gamers destroy the industry by pirating games and thus things like free to play garbage, DRM, only online SINGLE PLAYER games etc have appeared

The good news is that PS4 is light years ahead of PC with its unique unified design and all developers are shifting to consoles, Witcher 2-3, Diablo 3 were the last forts to fall

lostrib


This pretty much

...is not true

Well, enjoy beeing Blizzard PC slace then with the DRM and i will enjoy FREEDOM and CHOICE with the offline REAL SINGLE PLAYER Diablo 3 version on PS4

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#111 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
This pretty much

loosingENDS

...is not true

Well, enjoy beeing Blizzard PC slace then with the DRM and i will enjoy FREEDOM and CHOICE with the offline REAL SINGLE PLAYER Diablo 3 version on PS4

slace? I don't really care for diablo 3 though

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#113 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

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FireEmblem_Man

You keep saying that, yet you don't stick around!

That's because YouTube pays good money while System Wars pays nothing.

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#116 TheFadeForever
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For real gamers it is irrelevant

Who wants to play generic MMOs for the masses, copy/pasted startegy games we have played a billion times before and 10.000.000 Diablo clones per year ?

PC gaming is a joke right now, all real games are exclusive to or on consoles

Also PC gamers destroy the industry by pirating games and thus things like free to play garbage, DRM, only online SINGLE PLAYER games etc have appeared

The good news is that PS4 is light years ahead of PC with its unique unified design and all developers are shifting to consoles, Witcher 2-3, Diablo 3 were the last forts to fall

loosingENDS
hahha light years ahead of PC? Do you even have any idea what your even talking about. Oh yea like the xbox360 has any game worth mentioning I mean really Halo and GOW seems to be the only big game going for it and there all the same shit every game. The Wii U has hardly anything coming to it because the only Nintendo has going for it are their handhelds. You forget PC has become the lead platform for cross plat like Watchdog and Dark Souls with the PC architecture for next gen console more games will be available to the PC. I could fairly you know jackshit about pc gaming. We have more games than just MMO and RTS coming out . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlIWJlz6-Eg Keep your shitty shooters I'll be playing Arma 3 a real statical shooter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxtE8iMbgkc
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#117 Obviously_Right
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Its DrTre what did you expect? :lol:

This is the same guy that claimed that Wii U would have the definitive versions of GTAV and Battlefield 4 :lol:

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#118 Ly_the_Fairy
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It's relevant, just not as relevant as the Console market.

Puckhog04

Not as relevant in the US, maybe. Not as relevant in Japan, that's a given.

However, the most successful game of all time (WoW) is a PC exclusive, the current most-played online game (League of Legends) is a PC exclusive, and fast-selling exclusive game ever (Diablo 3) is a PC exclusive (as of right now).

It also gets more dev support than any other system, and the biggest publishers in the industry (Activision/Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft, Take 2, Sega, and even Sony and Microsoft) make PC exclusive games, and yet make none for the consoles (except Sony/MS obviously).

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#119 mitu123
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Its DrTre what did you expect? :lol:

This is the same guy that claimed that Wii U would have the definitive versions of GTAV and Battlefield 4 :lol:

Obviously_Right
Lol, if so, then wow.XD
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#120 TheFadeForever
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PC makes more revenue alone than any other platform and people are pitting every console against it. I mean look at Valve they make million selling pc games online and companies like EA are trying to copy it success with Origin. Even EA said the PC might be there lead platform in the future and it was the fastest growing platform. Sega is already reinforcing more PC game development when it used to be primary console. We seeing more games having PC as the lead platform its a very good sign I don't get why people are downplaying it.
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#121 HalcyonScarlet
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Did Blackbond really just use the WiiU in it's launch year period to make his point? :|

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#122 Blackbond
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Did Blackbond really just use the WiiU in it's launch year period to make his point? :|

HalcyonScarlet

Is that a problem? How hard is it to make games for your own system and why are games delayed? Why are we half a year in with nothing? Why can't Nintendo staff projects correctly?

You know what platform never has to wait for games or a year after launch? PC. nuff said.

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#123 loosingENDS
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PC makes more revenue alone than any other platform and people are pitting every console against it. I mean look at Valve they make million selling pc games online and companies like EA are trying to copy it success with Origin. Even EA said the PC might be there lead platform in the future and it was the fastest growing platform. Sega is already reinforcing more PC game development when it used to be primary console. We seeing more games having PC as the lead platform its a very good sign I don't get why people are downplaying it. TheFadeForever

Sure

6 million Skyrim sold on 360 vs 1 million on PC

LOL

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#124 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Did Blackbond really just use the WiiU in it's launch year period to make his point? :|

Blackbond

Is that a problem? How hard is it to make games for your own system and why are games delayed? Why are we half a year in with nothing? Why can't Nintendo staff projects correctly?

You know what platform never has to wait for games or a year after launch? PC. nuff said.

Not defending his point or attacking yours.

But using the Wii U is just kinda weak, it doesn't represent console gaming particularly well. It's just represents Nintendos struggle to compete with Sony and MS. They try to find new ways to differentiate and compete, people bought into it with the Wii, but people aren't buying it with the Wii U. It just comes off as picking on the weakest. I don't like the Wii U and I have no immediate plans on buying one, so i'm not defending it.

If you used PS3 or 360 to make your point, I might not like it or agree, because i've never seen the PC as competition like others do and I believe both have strengths and weaknesses, but at the same time I wouldn't criticize your point. I just expected you to come from a different angle.

Also imo typically launch year games aren't great to begin with.

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#125 lostrib
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[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]PC makes more revenue alone than any other platform and people are pitting every console against it. I mean look at Valve they make million selling pc games online and companies like EA are trying to copy it success with Origin. Even EA said the PC might be there lead platform in the future and it was the fastest growing platform. Sega is already reinforcing more PC game development when it used to be primary console. We seeing more games having PC as the lead platform its a very good sign I don't get why people are downplaying it. loosingENDS

Sure

6 million Skyrim sold on 360 vs 1 million on PC

LOL

source?

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#126 El_Garbanzo
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This chump sounds so desperate. Wii u is garbage and the world will newer give a s... about it

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#127 rjdofu
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Who the heck is DrTre and why is his opinion relevant?
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#128 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]PC makes more revenue alone than any other platform and people are pitting every console against it. I mean look at Valve they make million selling pc games online and companies like EA are trying to copy it success with Origin. Even EA said the PC might be there lead platform in the future and it was the fastest growing platform. Sega is already reinforcing more PC game development when it used to be primary console. We seeing more games having PC as the lead platform its a very good sign I don't get why people are downplaying it. loosingENDS

Sure

6 million Skyrim sold on 360 vs 1 million on PC

LOL

Console gamers love shit game, what else to say here.
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#130 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]PC makes more revenue alone than any other platform and people are pitting every console against it. I mean look at Valve they make million selling pc games online and companies like EA are trying to copy it success with Origin. Even EA said the PC might be there lead platform in the future and it was the fastest growing platform. Sega is already reinforcing more PC game development when it used to be primary console. We seeing more games having PC as the lead platform its a very good sign I don't get why people are downplaying it. lostrib

Sure

6 million Skyrim sold on 360 vs 1 million on PC

LOL

source?

the sky

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#131 posersRus84
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This dude's video is showing all the multiplat games not coming to wiiu and those games are coming to pc....so he's being sarcastic.
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#132 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Sure

6 million Skyrim sold on 360 vs 1 million on PC

LOL

lawlessx

source?

the sky

Where the sun dont shine?
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#133 Blabadon
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Uh, yeah, I'm a console gamer and I'm cheap as hell. Look at this guy try to act funny.
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#134 posersRus84
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Look on this acount lol he list steam dude. http://www.youtube.com/user/BLACKB0ND?feature=watch
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#135 lostrib
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]PC makes more revenue alone than any other platform and people are pitting every console against it. I mean look at Valve they make million selling pc games online and companies like EA are trying to copy it success with Origin. Even EA said the PC might be there lead platform in the future and it was the fastest growing platform. Sega is already reinforcing more PC game development when it used to be primary console. We seeing more games having PC as the lead platform its a very good sign I don't get why people are downplaying it. rjdofu

Sure

6 million Skyrim sold on 360 vs 1 million on PC

LOL

Console gamers love shit game, what else to say here.

apparently so do PC gamers

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#136 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I'm not trying that's my opinion deal with it

Davekeeh

Your opinion is wrong

Opinions are never wrong

No wonder you say such stupid things; you can't reason worth sh!t. Opinions very often are wrong.

If someone says "it is my opinion that the moon is made out of cheese", I'm sorry but that opinion is wrong. Opinions on matters of fact have to be supported by evidence and reasoning, otherwise they are worthless. 

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#137 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Agreed, however we live in a time of free speech. He may think that PC gaming sucks, but we can also say that he's an idiot for doing so. Davekeeh

Indeed. The ignorant always hate PC gaming. And their ignorance is precisely the reason for their hate. Same system wars shit, different day.


Why am I ignorant? LOL
Just because I don't share the same love for PC gaming?

No, you're ignorant because you are irrational and don't even try to present a worthwhile point of view. If you would simply say, "PC gaming is irrelevant to me", then your position would be in the realm of subjective preference and would have merit. But saying things like "PC gaming is irrelevant" puts your opinion at odds with objectively demonstrable fact and makes you look like an illogical fool.

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#138 posersRus84
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Sure

6 million Skyrim sold on 360 vs 1 million on PC

LOL

lostrib

Console gamers love shit game, what else to say here.

apparently so do PC gamers

proves pc gamers=smarter lol
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#140 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Sali217"]Why are PC gamers always so incredibly defensive? I like my console games but I can admit there are flaws to them, why can't PC gamers ever admit that there are flaws with their platform. Such as accessibility, maintenance and ease of use?Gue1

Probably because the points brought up by the youtuber are incorrect

 

how are they incorrect when we have so many publishers like Ubisoft complaining about piracy on PC? Why do you think Crysis is now on consoles? F2P MMO's and social games might make more money on the PC but triple A games always make more money on consoles and that is the truth and the point he makes in the video.

PC and consoles are overlapping, but different, markets. Some types of games do better on consoles, some types do better on PC. The vast majority of 3rd party games are multiplatform now. It's not just PC games going to console, but also many console games going to PC. 

The fact remains that the PC gaming market is thriving. 

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#141 Darchangel8
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[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

Did'nt click the link.....

 

Is it another elitist fanboy, moaning about elitist PC gamer bullies?

seanmcloughlin

He says PC gamers are irrelevant in publishers eyes because it's not where the money's at. Then says PC gamers get games incredibly late compared to consoles.

He never talks about PCs being lead platforms for certain games or the reverse effect of some PC games going to consoles later. So it's a completely fanboyish biased video.

Oh and he raps/sings this creepy weird song at the end saying "you exposed b!tch" over and over :?

Actually, the guy that ORIGNALLY made the song is a guy that is on BLACKB0ND's side, named TheOMEGAloser. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBjTt6ZL1ls
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#142 lostrib
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

Did'nt click the link.....

 

Is it another elitist fanboy, moaning about elitist PC gamer bullies?

Darchangel8

He says PC gamers are irrelevant in publishers eyes because it's not where the money's at. Then says PC gamers get games incredibly late compared to consoles.

He never talks about PCs being lead platforms for certain games or the reverse effect of some PC games going to consoles later. So it's a completely fanboyish biased video.

Oh and he raps/sings this creepy weird song at the end saying "you exposed b!tch" over and over :?

Actually, the guy that ORIGNALLY made the song is a guy that is on BLACKB0ND's side, named TheOMEGAloser. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBjTt6ZL1ls

that was unpleasant

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#143 Darchangel8
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I think loosing and Dave are trolling this on this topic.
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#144 Darchangel8
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Why are PC gamers always so incredibly defensive? I like my console games but I can admit there are flaws to them, why can't PC gamers ever admit that there are flaws with their platform. Such as accessibility, maintenance and ease of use?Sali217
Why are the console gamers so incredibly offesive? Don't you see on this topic? All the anti-pc comments? People claiming that "real gamers" don't play PC and claiming that their opinions are 'true' when opinions aren't FACT. Fact will always be fact, and facts will always be true. Opinions will always be opinions. Opinions only apply to individuals' perspectives. When people say that there are more features on the PC version of Skyrim than on the PS3 version. That is a fact because mods are avaliable on the PC version of Skyrim. When people say that they can use MORE than a Keyboard and Mouse on PC, that is a fact because people can use Xbox 360 controllers and PS3 controllers on their PC. Meet BLACKbusterCritic, just take a look at these videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCsgzRxIsmY&feature=player_detailpage http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eO9ievB6zpg
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#145 masterninja9
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Not defending his point or attacking yours.

But using the Wii U is just kinda weak, it doesn't represent console gaming particularly well. It's just represents Nintendos struggle to compete with Sony and MS. They try to find new ways to differentiate and compete, people bought into it with the Wii, but people aren't buying it with the Wii U. It just comes off as picking on the weakest. I don't like the Wii U and I have no immediate plans on buying one, so i'm not defending it.

If you used PS3 or 360 to make your point, I might not like it or agree, because i've never seen the PC as competition like others do and I believe both have strengths and weaknesses, but at the same time I wouldn't criticize your point. I just expected you to come from a different angle.

Also imo typically launch year games aren't great to begin with.

HalcyonScarlet
That's a great point. The Wii U is in a struggle and is in it's first year right now. It's a bit unfair to use it to represent console gaming as a whole since it hasn't established itself yet.