******Zelda game named 'greatest ever'******

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time has topped a poll of readers of Edge magazine and industry experts to find the top 100 games of all time.

The 10-year-old video for the Nintendo 64 games console help usher in a new era of 3D gaming.

It is also one of only five games ever to receive a 10 out of 10 review score from Edge magazine.

Five of the top 10 titles were made only for Nintendo machines, including Super Mario 64, in third spot.

The full list of 100 titles has been compiled for a special edition of Edge magazine.

Tony Mott, editor-in-chief of Edge, said: "If you were new to video games and were going to go out and buy 100 games to make an instant collection, then these would be the games to buy."

He added: "Ocarina of Time is nearly 10 years old, but its position at the top slot in Edge's 100 Best Videogames shows that great game design does not age.

"In visual terms, it obviously cannot compete with today's Xbox 360 and PS3 productions, but, as with many ****cs, its appeal is about so much more than its appearance."

Only one PC game makes the top 10 - ****c first person shooter Half Life 2. Microsoft's Xbox also has only one representative in the elite list - with Halo: Combat Evolved at number seven.

Only five games for the next generation of consoles have made the top 100 - Pro Evolution Soccer 6, at number 15, Oblivion, at number 19, Virtua Fighter 5, in 38th spot, Virtua Tennis 3 at number 80, and Crackdown at 100.

Tony Mott said: "Crackdown hasn't been around long but has proved itself to be a very good game. It will be interesting to see people's reaction to that.

"If we did this poll in five year's time, I would hope to see more PS3 and Xbox 360 games in the list. But I don't think anyone would argue we have seen that many ****cs in this new generation."

The list was drawn together in three stages - thousands of reader votes, combined with expert opinion in the games industry and finally input from Edge's own editorial team.

Mr Mott said Ocarina of Time was the reader favourite as well as the overall winner.

'Brilliantly well'

He said: "It appeared not long after games made the shift to 3D; everyone was wondering if it could make the transition.

"It was a very ambitious game. The way they were able to engineer it in a 3D context was a success; it worked brilliantly well."

But he said the intention behind the poll was not to create a "nostalgia festival".

"These games had to stand up today. People will be surprised by the small amount of very old games that have made it through.

"Often these types of lists are full of games like Space Invaders and Pong - which we recognise as ****cs, as important games - but they don't necessarily stand up to play today."

He added: "I love the fact that old games are being made available to audiences via Xbox Live, PlayStation Network and through compilations but I am not convinced that younger players will play them and appreciate them in the way we did the first time round.

"It's very hard for younger players who play something graphically-rich like Gears of War to then play something like Robotron.

"I think it will be for the greater good of the industry when more effort is put into the content of games than the way it is presented visually."

The five titles to have received a maximum review score from Edge are: Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Half-Life 2, Gran Turismo, Super Mario 64 and Halo.

The full list of the top 100 games will be available in a collector's volume called Edge Presents: The 100 Best Videogames, on sale from Tuesday 3 July.

Top 10 is:

1. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina
2. Resident Evil 4- WTF?
3. Super Mario 64
4. Half Life 2
5. Super Mario World
6. Zelda: A Link to the Past
7. Halo: Combat Evolved- WTF?
8. Final Fantasy XII
9. Tetris -WTF?
10. Super Metroid -WTF?

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Alright I loved Zelda on N64, best game ever? No, imo, but certainly one of the best. BUT

WTF!?!?!? No MGS in top 10?! you must having a laugh

And no Goldeneye !?!

And no FF7?!?

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6261546.stm

Combat Evolved is one of the greatest games ever made, get over it dude.

all it is...is a popularity contest....games get choosen by how popular they are whever you have a poll, and not by how good they are....

thats why Halo is on the list, and System Shock 2 and Dues Ex arent.

That is a terrible list. Only five of those games even deserve to be there.

Super Mario 64
Super Mario World
Zelda: A Link to the Past
Tetris
Super Metroidfoxhound_fox

Ever play anything not on Nintendo?

Combat Evolved is one of the greatest games ever made, get over it dude.

Bansheesdie

Telling by your sig and your avatar, you seem to be 100% bias free!:D

There is too much Nintendo love in that list for my liking.

Ok so a next-gen game like Gears of War doesn't make it into the top 100, but Crackdown does? I like Crackdown, but to put it into the top 100 games ever made, or even put it above many other next gen games is ridiculous. PES 6 at 15 just seems really....:| as well.

Ever play anything not on Nintendo?Fignewton50

Ok so a next-gen game like Gears of War doesn't make it into the top 100, but Crackdown does? I like Crackdown, but to put it into the top 100 games ever made, or even put it above many other next gen games is ridiculous. PES 6 at 15 just seems really....:| as well.

The actual top 10 isn't too bad though, there is some great games in there.-Xeno-

Ha, I didn't see that. How the hell did Crackdown get on there? That game was just a distraction for the Halo 3 Beta on the disc.

There is too much Nintendo love in that list for my liking.

Bansheesdie

Nintendo makes some of the greatest games every made.

Get over it dude.

Hell I don't agree with the list in my personal opinion(never had with any list, probably since I couldn't make one of my own XD)... But your wtf's in some of those games are definitely surprising.

The game I actually disagree more with being there is FF12... Tho like the rest of the list, it's all personal opinion for me, since FF12 was far from being the best FF game imo.

Only five games for the next generation of consoles have made the top 100 - Pro Evolution Soccer 6, at number 15, Oblivion, at number 19, Virtua Fighter 5, in 38th spot, Virtua Tennis 3 at number 80, and Crackdown at 100.

gameruk2010

[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]Ever play anything not on Nintendo?foxhound_fox

I definitely agree. But how can you take off Half-Life 2? You seem to know a good PC game when you see one.

that list lost cred with crackdown, proevolution soccor, etc

How anyone of those gets a higher nod than Gears is retarted.jg4xchamp

Crackdown is last on that list at #100. IMO, Crackdown is a pretty fun game, and depending on the composition of the entire list, it could very well slide in at #100.

And Pro Evolution Soccer is one of the best sports games ever made. It's not surprising it would be rated so highly in a country that can actually appreciate the improvements it brought over previous soccer games.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]that list lost cred with crackdown, proevolution soccor, etc

How anyone of those gets a higher nod than Gears is retarted.mjarantilla

Crackdown is last on that list at #100. IMO, Crackdown is a pretty fun game, and depending on the composition of the entire list, it could very well slide in at #100.

And Pro Evolution Soccer is one of the best sports games ever made. It's not surprising it would be rated so highly in a country that can actually appreciate the improvements it brought over previous soccer games.

I definitely agree. But how can you take off Half-Life 2? You seem to know a good PC game when you see one. Fignewton50

OoT: "*Yawn....not again, i'm tired of being no.1"Riviera_Phantom

:lol: seriously. Why do they even do this anymore?

Why is OoT always #1 on these lists? :evil:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time has topped a poll of readers of Edge magazine and industry experts to find the top 100 games of all time.

The 10-year-old video for the Nintendo 64 games console help usher in a new era of 3D gaming.

It is also one of only five games ever to receive a 10 out of 10 review score from Edge magazine.

Five of the top 10 titles were made only for Nintendo machines, including Super Mario 64, in third spot.

The full list of 100 titles has been compiled for a special edition of Edge magazine.

Tony Mott, editor-in-chief of Edge, said: "If you were new to video games and were going to go out and buy 100 games to make an instant collection, then these would be the games to buy."

He added: "Ocarina of Time is nearly 10 years old, but its position at the top slot in Edge's 100 Best Videogames shows that great game design does not age.

"In visual terms, it obviously cannot compete with today's Xbox 360 and PS3 productions, but, as with many ****cs, its appeal is about so much more than its appearance."

Only one PC game makes the top 10 - ****c first person shooter Half Life 2. Microsoft's Xbox also has only one representative in the elite list - with Halo: Combat Evolved at number seven.

Only five games for the next generation of consoles have made the top 100 - Pro Evolution Soccer 6, at number 15, Oblivion, at number 19, Virtua Fighter 5, in 38th spot, Virtua Tennis 3 at number 80, and Crackdown at 100.

Tony Mott said: "Crackdown hasn't been around long but has proved itself to be a very good game. It will be interesting to see people's reaction to that.

"If we did this poll in five year's time, I would hope to see more PS3 and Xbox 360 games in the list. But I don't think anyone would argue we have seen that many ****cs in this new generation."

The list was drawn together in three stages - thousands of reader votes, combined with expert opinion in the games industry and finally input from Edge's own editorial team.

Mr Mott said Ocarina of Time was the reader favourite as well as the overall winner.

'Brilliantly well'

He said: "It appeared not long after games made the shift to 3D; everyone was wondering if it could make the transition.

"It was a very ambitious game. The way they were able to engineer it in a 3D context was a success; it worked brilliantly well."

But he said the intention behind the poll was not to create a "nostalgia festival".

"These games had to stand up today. People will be surprised by the small amount of very old games that have made it through.

"Often these types of lists are full of games like Space Invaders and Pong - which we recognise as ****cs, as important games - but they don't necessarily stand up to play today."

He added: "I love the fact that old games are being made available to audiences via Xbox Live, PlayStation Network and through compilations but I am not convinced that younger players will play them and appreciate them in the way we did the first time round.

"It's very hard for younger players who play something graphically-rich like Gears of War to then play something like Robotron.

"I think it will be for the greater good of the industry when more effort is put into the content of games than the way it is presented visually."

The five titles to have received a maximum review score from Edge are: Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Half-Life 2, Gran Turismo, Super Mario 64 and Halo.

The full list of the top 100 games will be available in a collector's volume called Edge Presents: The 100 Best Videogames, on sale from Tuesday 3 July.

Top 10 is:

1. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina
2. Resident Evil 4- WTF?
3. Super Mario 64- WTF?
4. Half Life 2- WTF?
5. Super Mario World
6. Zelda: A Link to the Past
7. Halo: Combat Evolved- WTF?
8. Final Fantasy XII- WTF?
9. Tetris -WTF?
10. Super Metroid - WTF?

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Alright I loved Zelda on N64, best game ever? No, imo, but certainly one of the best. BUT

WTF!?!?!? No MGS in top 10?! you must having a laugh

And no Goldeneye !?!

And no FF7?!?

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6261546.stm

gameruk2010

Why is OoT always #1 on these lists? :evil:

Moon_of_Majora

:lol: What did you expect, MM?*goes to check* Majoras Mask fans and OOT fans. It's like the Clash of the Titans... Even tho that was a movie...

You WTF'ed Halo, Super Metroid, TETRIS, and RE4 but NOT FF12? My god man.

Super Metroid belongs there, as does Tetris, no freaking doubt in my mind.

i agree with OoT but honestly pro evo doesnt even deserve the top 50. crackdown WTF?

SuperMetroid, RE 4, and Halo owned. How The F do u not WTF FF 12. that one sucked more than any one of the FF games. was it better than 7, no. better than 8 no. better than 9 meh, better than 10 no.

jg4xchamp

10(Shivers) probably the whole world by now knows how I hated it but FF12 over 10 for me.

[QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

Why is OoT always #1 on these lists? :evil:

StealthSting

:lol: What did you expect, MM?*goes to check* Majoras Mask fans and OOT fans. It's like the Clash of the Titans... Even tho that was a movie...

:lol:

I wasn't expecting MM because Majora's Mask is incredibly underrated and these lists always mention the same popular games over and over again. :|

[QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

Why is OoT always #1 on these lists? :evil:

StealthSting

:lol: What did you expect, MM?*goes to check* Majoras Mask fans and OOT fans. It's like the Clash of the Titans... Even tho that was a movie...

OoT's fanbase is a lot bigger than MM's fanbase

Why is OoT always #1 on these lists? :evil:

Moon_of_Majora

Because it's the worst game ever created

/sarcasm.

I wasn't expecting MM because Majora's Mask is incredibly underrated and these lists always mention the same popular games over and over again. :|

Moon_of_Majora

I definitely agree. Like I said above why even do this anymore?... It's like predictability at its prime.

[QUOTE="StealthSting"][QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

Why is OoT always #1 on these lists? :evil:

Moon_of_Majora

:lol: What did you expect, MM?*goes to check* Majoras Mask fans and OOT fans. It's like the Clash of the Titans... Even tho that was a movie...

:lol:

I wasn't expecting MM because Majora's Mask is incredibly underrated and these lists always mention the same popular games over and over again. :|

MM is underatted but not better then OoT imo. it felt more like an expasion pack to me.

Combat Evolved is one of the greatest games ever made, get over it dude.

Bansheesdie

Honestly, I never got that fat, but I beat Links Awakening and enjoyed it more. The 2D ones are just more fun to me for some reason, maybe I need to actually beat a 3D one. I'm at the watertemple in TP and it's possibly better than Links Awakening, but I have yet to get far enough.wemhim

the game really opens up after the water temple and you get the MS/.

[QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"][QUOTE="StealthSting"][QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

Why is OoT always #1 on these lists? :evil:

6matt6

:lol: What did you expect, MM?*goes to check* Majoras Mask fans and OOT fans. It's like the Clash of the Titans... Even tho that was a movie...

:lol:

I wasn't expecting MM because Majora's Mask is incredibly underrated and these lists always mention the same popular games over and over again. :|

MM is underatted but not better then OoT imo. it felt more like an expasion pack to me.

not a bad list

they all end the same though with OOT at number 1

I agree with the OOT, it should be #1.

I hope Morrowind is atleast above Oblivion.

[QUOTE="wemhim"]Honestly, I never got that fat, but I beat Links Awakening and enjoyed it more. The 2D ones are just more fun to me for some reason, maybe I need to actually beat a 3D one. I'm at the watertemple in TP and it's possibly better than Links Awakening, but I have yet to get far enough.6matt6

the game really opens up after the water temple and you get the MS/.

I agree. After the Water Temple, it gets ten times better.

But what does MS stand for? :P

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"][QUOTE="StealthSting"][QUOTE="Moon_of_Majora"]

Why is OoT always #1 on these lists? :evil:

soldier-dark

:lol: What did you expect, MM?*goes to check* Majoras Mask fans and OOT fans. It's like the Clash of the Titans... Even tho that was a movie...

:lol:

I wasn't expecting MM because Majora's Mask is incredibly underrated and these lists always mention the same popular games over and over again. :|

MM is underatted but not better then OoT imo. it felt more like an expasion pack to me.