Who says it should deserve a low score? It just doesn't in any logical sense deserve a perfect score.If the original game is still awesome to play, and this version only improves on it, why should it deserve a low score?
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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Because it says the game is changed little, with some upgrades here and there. None of them are real changes to the game though or the experience. Why on Earth would a the same game get a perfect score when it was released with minor upgrades? Even my favorites games of all time, which I'd love to give 10/10 on orignal release, would not deserve a perfect score with such little improvement on rerelease. There's no logic that follows a perfect score beyond nostalgia.lx_theo
But it isn't a flawed product. Who says it is being aimed at people that have already played it?
The point is that it should be scored as a game, not as a remake. No remake with minor upgrades deserves a perfect score. First time playing through it properly, and have to say - absolutely brilliant so far. Honestly can't believe I haven't played this before, it's deserving all the acclaim it gets in my opinion.[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Heirren"]The point is that it should be scored as a game, not as a remake. No remake with minor upgrades deserves a perfect score. No website is foolsih enough to say a game is a perfect. A 10 is simply the highest recommendation possible for a game. It still implies the same idea. It implies that its as close as it can be to perfect, which goes along with the same point I made.But it isn't a flawed product. Who says it is being aimed at people that have already played it?
Kaze_no_Mirai
lol do you know what Gamestop's warranty on it is? Do they even have one?NaveedLife
Not sure lol. Probably.
I got mine at Best Buy - But Nintendo has a year warranty + 90 days if you register it on Club Nintendo.
Who says it should deserve a low score? It just doesn't in any logical sense deserve a perfect score.lx_theo
If you don't like that review you can read the others that haven't given it a 10 out of 10. A review is just one person's take on the game - Don't know why you're taking it so seriously.
[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Because it says the game is changed little, with some upgrades here and there. None of them are real changes to the game though or the experience. Why on Earth would a the same game get a perfect score when it was released with minor upgrades? Even my favorites games of all time, which I'd love to give 10/10 on orignal release, would not deserve a perfect score with such little improvement on rerelease. There's no logic that follows a perfect score beyond nostalgia.lx_theo
But it isn't a flawed product. Who says it is being aimed at people that have already played it?
The point is that it should be scored as a game, not as a remake. No remake with minor upgrades deserves a perfect score.Exactly my point.
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The point is that it should be scored as a game, not as a remake. No remake with minor upgrades deserves a perfect score.[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Heirren"]
But it isn't a flawed product. Who says it is being aimed at people that have already played it?
Heirren
Exactly my point.
And again, my point stands, if a game is simply the same as done before, it doesn't deserve as close to perfect as possible, because that in itself is a major flaw of it being a newly released game. I could see a 9/10 or something like that, but the only logical reason I can see it getting a 10/10 is nostalgia.[QUOTE="lx_theo"]Who says it should deserve a low score? It just doesn't in any logical sense deserve a perfect score.Haziqonfire
If you don't like that review you can read the others that haven't given it a 10 out of 10. A review is just one person's take on the game - Don't know why you're taking it so seriously.
I'm trying to point out a point but am being pushed aside because people have something against the idea that nostalgia has a big impact.No website is foolsih enough to say a game is a perfect. A 10 is simply the highest recommendation possible for a game. It still implies the same idea. It implies that its as close as it can be to perfect, which goes along with the same point I made. This is being called the "definitive" version of the game. 3D effect that adds to the experience? Check Good use of the touch screen and other 3DS hardware? Check Improved character models, textures, environments? Check Includes Master Quest version of the game? Check Boss challenge mode? Check It differentiates itself enough[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] The point is that it should be scored as a game, not as a remake. No remake with minor upgrades deserves a perfect score.lx_theo
[QUOTE="lx_theo"]It still implies the same idea. It implies that its as close as it can be to perfect, which goes along with the same point I made. This is being called the "definitive" version of the game. 3D effect that adds to the experience? Check Good use of the touch screen and other 3DS hardware? Check Improved character models, textures, environments? Check Includes Master Quest version of the game? Check Boss challenge mode? Check It differentiates itself enough Is it considered an exclusive then? No..Check[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"] No website is foolsih enough to say a game is a perfect. A 10 is simply the highest recommendation possible for a game.Kaze_no_Mirai
[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] It still implies the same idea. It implies that its as close as it can be to perfect, which goes along with the same point I made.Heil68This is being called the "definitive" version of the game. 3D effect that adds to the experience? Check Good use of the touch screen and other 3DS hardware? Check Improved character models, textures, environments? Check Includes Master Quest version of the game? Check Boss challenge mode? Check It differentiates itself enough Is it considered an exclusive then? No..Check Please explain your comment? What does exclusivity have anything to do with it being a good game with enhanced features?
wow. there's a lot of nintendo kids that grew up to become game reviewers active right now. mario galaxy and zelda are getting 10's all over the place. THE NINTENDOKIDS!!lloveLampnot quite what I was trying to say, it seems alot of people have quoted me today and just ran with thier pre-conceived notions of what my statement may have meant. But it is naive to think Nostalgia has nothin to do with it regardless of the game's quality
[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] It still implies the same idea. It implies that its as close as it can be to perfect, which goes along with the same point I made.This is being called the "definitive" version of the game. 3D effect that adds to the experience? Check Good use of the touch screen and other 3DS hardware? Check Improved character models, textures, environments? Check Includes Master Quest version of the game? Check Boss challenge mode? Check It differentiates itself enough Is it considered an exclusive then? No..Check I can play Ocarina of Time 3DS on other systems? :oHeil68
LOL at all the haters, I can only guess that many of these distractors have no idea that this is argueable the greatest game ever made and one of the first to recieve a perfect 10 on gamespot. Talking trash about this masterpiece only serves to highlight your own poor taste in gaming. Game is hater proof
[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] The point is that it should be scored as a game, not as a remake. No remake with minor upgrades deserves a perfect score.lx_theo
Exactly my point.
And again, my point stands, if a game is simply the same as done before, it doesn't deserve as close to perfect as possible, because that in itself is a major flaw of it being a newly released game. I could see a 9/10 or something like that, but the only logical reason I can see it getting a 10/10 is nostalgia.Yet every call of duty gets a 9? Eurogamer is one of the most objective and fair sites out there as far as their reviews go. If the game holds up that well, it deserves the score. By your logic, Tetris is the worst game ever made and if a version becomes available it should recieve a letter grade from hell.
Is it considered an exclusive then? No..Check I can play Ocarina of Time 3DS on other systems? :o No! That's the amazing part DarkLink77:o I thought you were following along, but I guess not. Still not an exclusive for some odd reason *ponders*..I guess it's just one of those mysteries of SW's :o And as a added super duper lightning round bonus :o the spreadsheet doesn't have to get updated, that's all that matters by golly. :)[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"] This is being called the "definitive" version of the game. 3D effect that adds to the experience? Check Good use of the touch screen and other 3DS hardware? Check Improved character models, textures, environments? Check Includes Master Quest version of the game? Check Boss challenge mode? Check It differentiates itself enoughDarkLink77
No website is foolsih enough to say a game is a perfect. A 10 is simply the highest recommendation possible for a game.musalalaIt still implies the same idea. It implies that its as close as it can be to perfect, which goes along with the same point I made. This is being called the "definitive" version of the game. 3D effect that adds to the experience? Check Good use of the touch screen and other 3DS hardware? Check Improved character models, textures, environments? Check Includes Master Quest version of the game? Check Boss challenge mode? Check It differentiates itself enough Different controls don't make it better. Everything else is blatantly minor. Its too long since original release that I'd consider the "definitive" argument anything relevant.
Different controls don't make it better. Everything else is blatantly minor. Its too long since original release that I'd consider the "definitive" argument anything relevant.lx_theoI don't see how improving controls don't help the experience or make the game better overall. Have you played the game? Have you tried out the new features? Have you experieced OoT's 3D effect first hand to judge? You can't say it's minor with no prior hands on.
And again, my point stands, if a game is simply the same as done before, it doesn't deserve as close to perfect as possible, because that in itself is a major flaw of it being a newly released game. I could see a 9/10 or something like that, but the only logical reason I can see it getting a 10/10 is nostalgia.[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Heirren"]
Exactly my point.
Heirren
Yet every call of duty gets a 9? Eurogamer is one of the most objective and fair sites out there as far as their reviews go. If the game holds up that well, it deserves the score. By your logic, Tetris is the worst game ever made and if a version becomes available it should recieve a letter grade from hell.
If tetris was released with some upgraded graphics and different controls, then it'd still be a rehash. If it was still basically the same game with one or two new modes, it'd deserve a low score. CoD doesn't deserve a 9, no. I never said that.[QUOTE="lx_theo"]Different controls don't make it better. Everything else is blatantly minor. Its too long since original release that I'd consider the "definitive" argument anything relevant.Kaze_no_MiraiI don't see how improving controls don't help the experience or make the game better overall. Have you played the game? Have you tried out the new features? Have you experieced OoT's 3D effect first hand to judge? You can't say it's minor with no prior hands on. They're not better because they're different. 3D give me headaches, so I'm pretty sure thats not an issue to care about.
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]I can play Ocarina of Time 3DS on other systems? :o No! That's the amazing part DarkLink77:o I thought you were following along, but I guess not. Still not an exclusive for some odd reason *ponders*..I guess it's just one of those mysteries of SW's :o And as a added super duper lightning round bonus :o the spreadsheet doesn't have to get updated, that's all that matters by golly. :) Well, as long as the spreadsheet doesn't need to be updated. Keeping track of all those new games is hard. ;)[QUOTE="Heil68"] Is it considered an exclusive then? No..CheckHeil68
[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="lx_theo"]Different controls don't make it better. Everything else is blatantly minor. Its too long since original release that I'd consider the "definitive" argument anything relevant.lx_theoI don't see how improving controls don't help the experience or make the game better overall. Have you played the game? Have you tried out the new features? Have you experieced OoT's 3D effect first hand to judge? You can't say it's minor with no prior hands on. They're not better because they're different. 3D give me headaches, so I'm pretty sure thats not an issue to care about. I'm not saying they're better because they're different. They're better because most people actually prefer what was changed. Don't like 3D effect? Gives you headaches? Thats fine, the game still received a graphical update that screen do NO justice. Wanna relieve sme of your favorite boss battles? The you can play the boss mode. Want a bigger challenge out of the game? Master Quest is just for you.
Ura Zelda is actually OOT: Master Quest, which is included in this game.Ill be honest. If I were to review this game, based on what I've see I'd give it an 8.5. If Nintendo added some stuff from URA Zelda or something then I would give it a higher score.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]Well, as long as the spreadsheet doesn't need to be updated. Keeping track of all those new games is hard. ;)Heil68Not for the 360, but the other systems, yeah it kind of is. :lol: Well played, Heil. [spoiler] But for serious, are we really having an argument over OoT 3DS' exclusivity? I only ask because I skipped all of the DC, which is a good portion of the thread. :P [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I can play Ocarina of Time 3DS on other systems? :oNo! That's the amazing part DarkLink77:o I thought you were following along, but I guess not. Still not an exclusive for some odd reason *ponders*..I guess it's just one of those mysteries of SW's :o And as a added super duper lightning round bonus :o the spreadsheet doesn't have to get updated, that's all that matters by golly. :) Well, as long as the spreadsheet doesn't need to be updated. Keeping track of all those new games is hard. ;) Why would it be considered exclusive here? What has been added besides 3D and better graphics?DarkLink77
Just read above. So it changes how the bosses and mobs act? I don't get it. :?
[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] They're not better because they're different. 3D give me headaches, so I'm pretty sure thats not an issue to care about. lx_theoI'm not saying they're better because they're different. They're better because most people actually prefer what was changed. Don't like 3D effect? Gives you headaches? Thats fine, the game still received a graphical update that screen do NO justice. Wanna relieve sme of your favorite boss battles? The you can play the boss mode. Want a bigger challenge out of the game? Master Quest is just for you. An added difficulty mode and a boss mode? Really, if any modes were minor add ons, those would be. the graphical upgrades still look like not a huge deal. And there aren't changes. Its just different. Its like comparing two controllers. It'll be preference every time. What perplexes me is that people are trying to defend it getting a 10/10. No game deserves that. Especially not remakes. The only logical reason a person would put a game like this at 10/10 is nostalgia. No saying it can't be a great game. Just there's no reason it should get a 10/10
You obviously know all there is so perhaps you should take your complaints to Eurogamer and ask them to change their score.
Well, as long as the spreadsheet doesn't need to be updated. Keeping track of all those new games is hard. ;) Why would it be considered exclusive here? What has been added besides 3D and better graphics? Master Quest? Completely revamped the way the game plays? New stuff?[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Heil68"] No! That's the amazing part DarkLink77:o I thought you were following along, but I guess not. Still not an exclusive for some odd reason *ponders*..I guess it's just one of those mysteries of SW's :o And as a added super duper lightning round bonus :o the spreadsheet doesn't have to get updated, that's all that matters by golly. :)Chutebox
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Cool commercials, i might reconsider my desition to get a 3DS next year, maybe i'll save some extra cash to play this game sooner :)
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Why would it be considered exclusive here? What has been added besides 3D and better graphics? Master Quest? Completely revamped the way the game plays? New stuff? don't know. It wasn't a sarcastic question. I honestly don't know lol.[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Well, as long as the spreadsheet doesn't need to be updated. Keeping track of all those new games is hard. ;)DarkLink77
An added difficulty mode and a boss mode? Really, if any modes were minor add ons, those would be. the graphical upgrades still look like not a huge deal. And there aren't changes. Its just different. Its like comparing two controllers. It'll be preference every time. What perplexes me is that people are trying to defend it getting a 10/10. No game deserves that. Especially not remakes. The only logical reason a person would put a game like this at 10/10 is nostalgia. No saying it can't be a great game. Just there's no reason it should get a 10/10[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"] I'm not saying they're better because they're different. They're better because most people actually prefer what was changed. Don't like 3D effect? Gives you headaches? Thats fine, the game still received a graphical update that screen do NO justice. Wanna relieve sme of your favorite boss battles? The you can play the boss mode. Want a bigger challenge out of the game? Master Quest is just for you.Heirren
You obviously know all there is so perhaps you should take your complaints to Eurogamer and ask them to change their score.
Oh, I'm sorry I have a point. How about back up a reason for it to be 10/10 or not try and act like I've done something bad here?[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Why would it be considered exclusive here? What has been added besides 3D and better graphics?Master Quest? Completely revamped the way the game plays? New stuff? don't know. It wasn't a sarcastic question. I honestly don't know lol. Well, that's what they added. It'd be kind of like if they remade FF VII only on PS3 and changed the way the game played. I'd consider that an exclusive.Chutebox
don't know. It wasn't a sarcastic question. I honestly don't know lol. Well, that's what they added. It'd be kind of like if they remade FF VII only on PS3 and changed the way the game played. I'd consider that an exclusive. I know I could look this up, but I'd rather ask here lol. Master Quest, they change the way mobs act, inlculding bosses, and the layout of dungeons?[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Master Quest? Completely revamped the way the game plays? New stuff?DarkLink77
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Why would it be considered exclusive here? What has been added besides 3D and better graphics?Master Quest? Completely revamped the way the game plays? New stuff? don't know. It wasn't a sarcastic question. I honestly don't know lol. Master Quest was in the Gamecube version wasn't it?Chutebox
don't know. It wasn't a sarcastic question. I honestly don't know lol. Well, that's what they added. It'd be kind of like if they remade FF VII only on PS3 and changed the way the game played. I'd consider that an exclusive. Not an exclusive...no way no how.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Master Quest? Completely revamped the way the game plays? New stuff?DarkLink77
don't know. It wasn't a sarcastic question. I honestly don't know lol. Master Quest was in the Gamecube version wasn't it? Yeah, but it's in VERY limited supply. With Ocarina 3DS, it makes it easier to get compared to the Gamecube version.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Master Quest? Completely revamped the way the game plays? New stuff?Bread_or_Decide
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