Zero Punctuation reviews Brutal Legend

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1044-Brutal-Legend

Was hoping for a Uncharted 2 review :(

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1044-Brutal-Legend

Was hoping for a Uncharted 2 review :(

MJPK

i want him to review demon's souls D=Jandurin

I want him to review Demon's Souls, then Uncharted 2, but the review had no surprises, I knew he would be disappointed with Tim.

i thought the RTS parts were great, better than anything else on the consoles thus far anywayshadow_hosi

Yahtzee will rip U2 apart whether or not he truly enjoyed it. It is ripe for being picked apart since it's linear, there are suspension of disbelief obstacles at every corner, etc. Even if he truly likes the game it will be too easy to run through the wringer for him to pass it up. Hahadouken

Yahtzee will rip U2 apart whether or not he truly enjoyed it. It is ripe for being picked apart since it's linearHahadouken

Not necessarily. IN this review alone, he complained about how there are too many games use the Open World feature.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]Yahtzee will rip U2 apart whether or not he truly enjoyed it. It is ripe for being picked apart since it's linearLionheart08

Not necessarily. IN this review alone, he complained about how there are too many games use the Open World feature.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]Yahtzee will rip U2 apart whether or not he truly enjoyed it. It is ripe for being picked apart since it's linearHahadouken

Not necessarily. IN this review alone, he complained about how there are too many games use the Open World feature.

The whole thing was a big sandbox whine...

*sigh*

if he did review uncharted 2 it would be the only honest review of the game out there.

if he did review uncharted 2 it would be the only honest review of the game out there.

WilliamRLBaker

That was a surprisingly fair review. I'm surprised by this. In general I can very much understand people's gripes with the game, but personally I found the positives to outweigh the negatives by quite a bit.

I definitely agree regarding its ability to be lousy at explaining stuff to you. Lots of that going around. Had no idea how you were supposed to open the Legends until I looked it up on the internet.

And while I don't mind collectibles, I do mind collectibles which affect the gameplay. When playing through the campaign you don't necessarily want to drive around looking for collectibles. I find it breaks the pacing and is tedious. I drove from point to point and if I happened to see something along the way, then I'd collect it. So since I didn't actively comb through the world, I didn't get to use the full breadth of the gameplay. I didn't get the "Bringing it Home" solo until after I had finished the game. Solos should've been unlocked as you progressed through the story, not by forcing the player to play in a tedious manner.

It's always funny how often Yahtzee and I agree. I've had a hard time dealing with a Schafer game sucking... we need some kind of group therapy for Psychoanuts fans. RTS games don't belong on consoles, and especially not in some Far Cry 2 gad-awful open world version... dealing with poor combat just takes so much away from the game that it's nigh on unplayable.subrosian

The whole thing was a big sandbox whine...

*sigh*

BioShockOwnz

That's basically all Yahtzee's reviews are. Whine about something he praised in an earlier review.

The whole thing was a big sandbox whine...

*sigh*

BioShockOwnz

I notice he tends to veer off topic when it comes to not wanting to talk about the game. I believe him when he said he didn't know what to say for this review, due to his love of Tim and "meh" response to the game. That's why he went on about sandbox games and the RTS genre.

Well, apart from his usual nihilistic approach to reviewing games, I kind of agree with him.

I would'nt say it's a bad game but I have a hard time dealing with the fact that this is made by Tim Schaefer.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]Yahtzee will rip U2 apart whether or not he truly enjoyed it. It is ripe for being picked apart since it's linearHahadouken

Not necessarily. IN this review alone, he complained about how there are too many games use the Open World feature.

Chest high walls :D
He will also hate the dude for not picking Chole at the end :D

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

The whole thing was a big sandbox whine...

*sigh*

Pixel-Pirate

That's basically all Yahtzee's reviews are. Whine about something he praised in an earlier review.

Well, apart from his usual nihilistic approach to reviewing games, I kind of agree with him.

I would'nt say it's a bad game but I have a hard time dealing with the fact that this is made by Tim Schaefer.

Filthybastrd

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

The whole thing was a big sandbox whine...

*sigh*

subrosian

That's basically all Yahtzee's reviews are. Whine about something he praised in an earlier review.

I liked SR2, but the fact that he praised it and bashes far superior titles is quite telling.

And I hated FC2, but I dig BL. I didn't find BL to be repetitive at all. It was too short to become repetitive, which is my biggest complaint. 6 hours and it was over. It was a blast the entire way through, though.

Granted, I spent about another 6 hours exploring and collecting everything, but I come from the class of yesteryears where collecting is one of the best and most rewarding parts of a game.

but I come from the class of yesteryears where collecting is one of the best and most rewarding parts of a game.

BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Well, apart from his usual nihilistic approach to reviewing games, I kind of agree with him.

I would'nt say it's a bad game but I have a hard time dealing with the fact that this is made by Tim Schaefer.

subrosian

Well I'm not ready to admit that I'm bored since I have'nt gotten that far. Seriously though, it needs to intensify...... I'm forcing myself slightly as well :?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

but I come from the class of yesteryears where collecting is one of the best and most rewarding parts of a game.

Jandurin

So did he like it or hate it?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

but I come from the class of yesteryears where collecting is one of the best and most rewarding parts of a game.

Jandurin

Their loss, I say. Crackdown, inFAMOUS, Banjo, Mario, and on and on. I'm the kind of person that must obtain everything. I like that. Why set everything on a linear path and make it easy peasy? There's no fun in that. I want my $60 worth. If I had played and beaten the title in 6 hours with nothing left to do, then I would've been a little bit upset. That 6 hours was great, imo. The reason Brutal Legend worked so well was due to its simplicity. It was not frustrating at all, not even on the hardest difficulty. It gave me simplistic RTS-style controls and simplistic combat controls. It let me take part in these big battles instead of just hanging over the battlefield and watching it.

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The last boss battle with Daviculus was fantastic. It blended the RTS-style stage battle perfectly with a normal boss you'd expect from an action/adventure title. You command your units and use strategic thinking to bring down the heads one at a time, then you ride the Deuce up the side and ram into the tower, then once you do that to both, you march inside and you have a normal boss fight with just Eddie and Daviculus. It's a perfect mashup of the 2 genres into one large boss battle with 3 different stages to it.

Anyways, how one could find this game frustrating is beyond me. It is perfect? Nope. None of Schafer's games are "prefect", but that's not why I fell in love with his work. No game is perfect. The game mechanics, while simplistic, work incredibly well. I couldn't see a deeper strategy mashup with more complex actions and controls working better on console.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

if he did review uncharted 2 it would be the only honest review of the game out there.

Cherokee_Jack

I hate arbitrary trinket-finding and always will. Sorry you can't go through this door, you don't have the blue key. Sorry you can't reply to this post until you find 12 fanboy coins. Sorry, you can't eat dinner until you find the gourmand switch on top of the McMountain. Yahtzee is dead on and his detractors are simply wrong.subrosian

You spent many days defending Too Human, as did I, which is a vastly inferior title to Brutal Legend all around.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]I hate arbitrary trinket-finding and always will. Sorry you can't go through this door, you don't have the blue key. Sorry you can't reply to this post until you find 12 fanboy coins. Sorry, you can't eat dinner until you find the gourmand switch on top of the McMountain. Yahtzee is dead on and his detractors are simply wrong.BioShockOwnz

You spent many days defending Too Human, as did I, which is a vastly inferior title to Brutal Legend all around.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]I hate arbitrary trinket-finding and always will. Sorry you can't go through this door, you don't have the blue key. Sorry you can't reply to this post until you find 12 fanboy coins. Sorry, you can't eat dinner until you find the gourmand switch on top of the McMountain. Yahtzee is dead on and his detractors are simply wrong.Jandurin

You spent many days defending Too Human, as did I, which is a vastly inferior title to Brutal Legend all around.

I agree. But it was still a vastly inferior title.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Not necessarily. IN this review alone, he complained about how there are too many games use the Open World feature.

chaplainDMK

Chest high walls :D
He will also hate the dude for not picking Chole at the end :D

Haha yeah when I came across the cover spots in U2 I always thought "chest high walls". Most of the cover in U2 is a lot more organic though, even compared to the first game. I think they paid a lot of attention to it to make it not seem completely unrealistic. Usually if there is a 3 foot high brick wall there, you can see the outline of where the wall was or the building used to be.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Not necessarily. IN this review alone, he complained about how there are too many games use the Open World feature.

chaplainDMK

Chest high walls :D
He will also hate the dude for not picking Chole at the end :D

erm..u might want to put a spoiler tag on that :|

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

The whole thing was a big sandbox whine...

*sigh*

subrosian

That's basically all Yahtzee's reviews are. Whine about something he praised in an earlier review.

Sorry, it's not easy to not over simplify Yahtzee's reviews. They are a pretty basic formula. Nit pick at games for 4 minutes pointing out flaws (some of them silly). I guess I just kinda grew out of Yahtzee's reviews.

I hate arbitrary trinket-finding and always will. Sorry you can't go through this door, you don't have the blue key. Sorry you can't reply to this post until you find 12 fanboy coins. Sorry, you can't eat dinner until you find the gourmand switch on top of the McMountain. Yahtzee is dead on and his detractors are simply wrong.subrosian

So did he like it or hate it?

Shinobishyguy

Something in between, I think.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]I hate arbitrary trinket-finding and always will. Sorry you can't go through this door, you don't have the blue key. Sorry you can't reply to this post until you find 12 fanboy coins. Sorry, you can't eat dinner until you find the gourmand switch on top of the McMountain. Yahtzee is dead on and his detractors are simply wrong.Jandurin

You spent many days defending Too Human, as did I, which is a vastly inferior title to Brutal Legend all around.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]I hate arbitrary trinket-finding and always will. Sorry you can't go through this door, you don't have the blue key. Sorry you can't reply to this post until you find 12 fanboy coins. Sorry, you can't eat dinner until you find the gourmand switch on top of the McMountain. Yahtzee is dead on and his detractors are simply wrong.Saturos3091

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

You spent many days defending Too Human, as did I, which is a vastly inferior title to Brutal Legend all around.

subrosian

Nope, as a supporter of Too Human since years back, I'll have to say that Brutal Legend offers way more and is more fun than Too Human. Too Human, while linear, the way you like it, offers nothing in terms of variety. Each level is a corridor grind from beginning to end. Sometimes that's fine, but Too Human's level design and just overall design was mind-numbingly mediocre .

So did he like it or hate it?

Shinobishyguy

He gave it the meh stamp. Personally, I agree with the review. I'm at the middle point now. Orginally I thought it was going to be a button masher but instead it turned into a simplified RTS...with button mashing.

if he did review uncharted 2 it would be the only honest review of the game out there.

WilliamRLBaker

That is, unless he likes it right?

This is so saddening. I was super excited for Brutal Legend. I figured it could easily be GOTY. My online preorder was somehow lost, and initially I was disappointed but now I feel that it's a blessing in disguise. Too bad. Jack and Tim are both awesome. Hahadouken

Ah, so we let reviews decide for us, I get it. Hahadouken

It was too good to pass up.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]This is so saddening. I was super excited for Brutal Legend. I figured it could easily be GOTY. My online preorder was somehow lost, and initially I was disappointed but now I feel that it's a blessing in disguise. Too bad. Jack and Tim are both awesome. BioShockOwnz

Ah, so we let reviews decide for us, I get it. Hahadouken

It was too good to pass up.