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#51 hot114
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Terrible review. He dose not mention Blue or Black Phantoms for a start. Blue Phantoms are other players you can summon to HELP you through a level or protect you from, Black Phantoms who are players who have invaded your current world with the intention of killing you. What a Numpty.

Not only that you can regain your life bar by not only defeating bosses but by also using Stone of Epheral eyes < Spelling.

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There is ALOT the game makes no mention about its the intro level barely manages to teach you how to tie your own shoelaces then asks you to run the marathon. This is where the fun comes in for people like me, i love just trying new stuff out without the game holding me by my hand You can NOT say hes a bad player (or good one :P) for not realising in his first 2 hours of play that hes free to co-op at any given time when the game makes zero mention of it in the first place. Just check the DS forums, it has tons of people who never even learned any advanced magic or upgraded a weapon on theyr first PLAYTHROUGH. The game tells you nothing, its all up to the player to explore If you check his other reviews you'l see hes not a particularly good player making alot of faceplam deaths and repeating the same mistake when you should have learned from the first time - He makes up for it with witty dialogue, people often make the mistake of mistaking his stand-up as a full fledged review.
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#52 MJPK
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The ending is brilliant! :lol:xsubtownerx

Agreed :lol:

"I feel the best way to review Demon's Souls is to discribe my entire experience so in conclusion, **** you Demon's Souls" Brilliant

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#53 Im_single
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Funny review, Demon's souls is really hard, poor Yahtzee couldn't take it! I am on 2-2 right now, had it since launch, other games took up my DS time though, this review made me really want to play it again, next on my list, Demon's Souls.
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#54 BZSIN
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Haha, that's his best review in a while.

My copy should be arriving any day now and I can't wait :)

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#55 fenwickhotmail
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WOW, yatzee picking up on a JRPG and a extremely unique one at that.

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It's JRPG by origin but it doesnt follow JRPG conventions.
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#56 urdead18
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:D

Thank god he dropped the game then, you face the Tower Knight just after that which is a major pain to kill.

I'm past him and I'm on the freaking Firelurker now. REALLY, REALLY hard boss. How do I kill this thing!?!?! (Seriously, someone answer :P)

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#57 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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Theres no such thing as a game being too hard, if its too hard your just a N00B!!!! Its 4 teh hardcores only.

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#58 xsubtownerx
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Theres no such thing as a game being too hard, if its too hard your just a N00B!!!! Its 4 teh hardcores only.

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That doesn't make any sense. What does the "hard" stand for in 'HARDcore"?
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[QUOTE="urdead18"]

:D

Thank god he dropped the game then, you face the Tower Knight just after that which is a major pain to kill.

I'm past him and I'm on the freaking Firelurker now. REALLY, REALLY hard boss. How do I kill this thing!?!?! (Seriously, someone answer :P)

flamelurker - either play really well, or hide behind some bones. and you can kill him without getting hit :P
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#60 Yandere
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Theres no such thing as a game being too hard, if its too hard your just a N00B!!!! Its 4 teh hardcores only.

ColdP1zza

Unless it's unwinnable I agree with you.

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#61 verbalfilth
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:D

Thank god he dropped the game then, you face the Tower Knight just after that which is a major pain to kill.

I'm past him and I'm on the freaking Firelurker now. REALLY, REALLY hard boss. How do I kill this thing!?!?! (Seriously, someone answer :P)

urdead18
Get the flame shield to absorb flame damage from the lurker...the damage will be transferred to your stamina instead of HP...so you better have enough of it.. roll a lot and attack with one or two hits when you see an openning....then save enough stamina to dodge or block... orrrr if you've invested in some magic...just get the soul arrow spell.....stay at a distance and shoot it to death.
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#62 XturnalS
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Great review, I knew it would kick his ass but man he didn't even make it to the tower knight and everybody gets owned by the dragon the first time. Its like the Matrix when no one makes the first jump.

LOL @ not being able to pause. I find that to be the worst only during an invasion because if you don't have the right stuff equipped than your boned. And yes being able to evade attacks is far better than having heavy armor or a big shield. I own tons of people with my wanderer class, Plus with the ring of str I get to wear fluted armor and roll which is pretty invaluable especially compared to the leather armor you start off with on that class.

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#63 finalfantasy94
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Demons souls is challenging,but fair. If you think the game is unfair then that means you just plain suck at this game. Its all about thinking before you strike.

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#64 GeoffZak
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No surprise there. Yahtzee hates hard games.Parasomniac

Yahtzee hates all games, except for Saints Row 2.

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#65 Vandalvideo
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Wow; the first boss fight is not a supposed to lose fight. Zero Punctuation am fail.
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#66 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]No surprise there. Yahtzee hates hard games.GeoffZak

Yahtzee hates all games, except for Saints Row 2.

And PoP: The Sands of Time, Silent Hill 2 etc.
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#67 urdead18
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[QUOTE="urdead18"]

:D

Thank god he dropped the game then, you face the Tower Knight just after that which is a major pain to kill.

I'm past him and I'm on the freaking Firelurker now. REALLY, REALLY hard boss. How do I kill this thing!?!?! (Seriously, someone answer :P)

verbalfilth
Get the flame shield to absorb flame damage from the lurker...the damage will be transferred to your stamina instead of HP...so you better have enough of it.. roll a lot and attack with one or two hits when you see an openning....then save enough stamina to dodge or block... orrrr if you've invested in some magic...just get the soul arrow spell.....stay at a distance and shoot it to death.

I have the purple flame shield and soul arrow and I still haven't beaten him -.-.
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#68 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Wow; the first boss fight is not a supposed to lose fight. Zero Punctuation am fail.Vandalvideo
yeah... how the heck do you lose to that boss? You'd already fought the creatures it was comprised of on the stairs to open the back way to the red-eyed knight and if you have any fire they just DIE
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#69 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Wow; the first boss fight is not a supposed to lose fight. Zero Punctuation am fail.Jandurin
yeah... how the heck do you lose to that boss? You'd already fought the creatures it was comprised of on the stairs to open the back way to the red-eyed knight and if you have any fire they just DIE

Nah he wasn't talking about phalanx but Vanguard in the tutorial. Where you're in the small room with pillars and him cleaving the entire room in half. You don't have to lose that fight. In fact, beating him there has some added bonuses later.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Wow; the first boss fight is not a supposed to lose fight. Zero Punctuation am fail.Vandalvideo
yeah... how the heck do you lose to that boss? You'd already fought the creatures it was comprised of on the stairs to open the back way to the red-eyed knight and if you have any fire they just DIE

Nah he wasn't talking about phalanx but Vanguard in the tutorial. Where you're in the small room with pillars and him cleaving the entire room in half. You don't have to lose that fight. In fact, beating him there has some added bonuses later.

Did you beat him the first time you fought him?
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#71 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Did you beat him the first time you fought him?

Not the first time, but I got frustrated, rerolled and promptly owned him.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Did you beat him the first time you fought him?Vandalvideo
Not the first time, but I got frustrated, rerolled and promptly owned him.

so you beat him the first playthrough =S I never rerolled
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#73 truthiness1
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Pretty sad he thinks that the game shoudl completley stop for you so you can go into your inventory. Yeah, that would be reaaallly realistic if the world froze just for you to switch weapons. He also must have just been rushing through the level, because there are at least 2 shortcut routes(that act like checkpoints) you can unlock on 1-1 that he completley failed to notice. Sad really, although some of his analogies really had be cracken up. Pancake lady? LOL...
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#74 Odrec
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LOL, yahtzee is a noob :P
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#75 XturnalS
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] Did you beat him the first time you fought him?Jandurin
Not the first time, but I got frustrated, rerolled and promptly owned him.

so you beat him the first playthrough =S I never rerolled

What? I was owning him and all of a sudden I was forced to stay in one place and the vanguard hit me once and killed me when he was done to 1/3 health. Thats BS because I easily would've won that fight if I had been able to actually continue fighting.

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#76 reiv
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I wonder if he'll play it again or just forget about it forever. It's well worth getting through a few games.
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#77 Racer850
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I was thinking of buying this game, but by the sounds of this review it's frustrating.
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#78 tagyhag
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... Its not that hard....

Shirokishi_
It's not that hard if you compare it to other niche RPG's, but compared to other mainstream RPG's, it's quite hard. Though not as OMG TEH DIFFICULT! as people are making it out to be. :P
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#79 hot114
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[QUOTE="urdead18"] I have the purple flame shield and soul arrow and I still haven't beaten him -.-.

Water veil helps immensely (costs like 500 souls, really cheap) - dont get to greedy and only attack right after he does his fire-cone attack Just strave away from the fire-cone (left or right) with the flame shield up and immediatly back away when he starts jumping/meleeing again Always keep the waterveil up and dont get greedy if you use a slow weapon 1 hit is plenty or you'l regret it. Always keep some stamina left to mitigate some of the damage A attack that only requires 20% of your stamina to block might cost 40% of your healthpool if unblocked so always keep an eye on how much you have.
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#80 hot114
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I was thinking of buying this game, but by the sounds of this review it's frustrating.Racer850
This depends entirely on the player. the game is very self aware in its mechanics, no pause is actually a good thing as it forces you to prepare and adds suspense. Being able to instantly (through pasue) swap your entire wardrobe and heal to full as in most action games would really take away from the victory imho.
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#81 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

... Its not that hard....

tagyhag

Though not as OMG TEH DIFFICULT! as people are making it out to be. :P

Which is how Yahtzees making it sound. It may be pretty damn frustrating but the game pushes you to use caution and learn from your mistakes.... yet everytime I hear complaints about how hard the damn game is people say theyve died in the same area dozens of times :P

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#82 Sully28
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The game is definatly hard in the fact that it requires full commitment. If you are tired and not focusing, or have friends over, you will not make it far. You have to be fully aware of whats going on at all times or else one enemy that you usually serve, will kill you. Its the difficulty that makes it so rewarding. Sadly i have not beat it, and probably wont untill summer because of all the other games comming out from now untill then that appeal to me more and the fact i dont have the time currently to fully commit to a game like demon souls. It is an excellent game though, so satisfying when you succeed, even at small tasks.

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#83 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

... Its not that hard....

Shirokishi_

Though not as OMG TEH DIFFICULT! as people are making it out to be. :P

Which is how Yahtzees making it sound. It may be pretty damn frustrating but the game pushes you to use caution and learn from your mistakes.... yet everytime I hear complaints about how hard the damn game is people say theyve died in the same area dozens of times :P

To all the people who complain the game is TOO hard, and keep dying over and over until they quit without ever haven beaten more than the first boss... You should probably just stop playing video games because, quite frankly, you are no good at it.

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#84 Cait__Sith
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lol, that was very good!

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#85 JangoWuzHere
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WOW, yatzee picking up on a JRPG and a extremely unique one at that.

albeit imho it plays as just another action game with extremely well done hit/weapon detection
For someone who almost exclusively played WoW since its release, Demon's Souls was not hard at all and there are a ton of similaritys beyond the surface.

hot114

Demon's souls is more of a WRPG then a JRPG.

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#86 Gxgear
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Demons souls is challenging,but fair. If you think the game is unfair then that means you just plain suck at this game. Its all about thinking before you strike.

finalfantasy94

The only thing unfair about Demon's Souls, if I had to nickpick, is that it doesn't tell you anything on how to play the game from the start (besides the button tutorial).

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#87 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Demons souls is challenging,but fair. If you think the game is unfair then that means you just plain suck at this game. Its all about thinking before you strike.

Gxgear

The only thing unfair about Demon's Souls, if I had to nickpick, is that it doesn't tell you anything on how to play the game from the start (besides the button tutorial).

True, but I like that, it pretty much begins the theme of the game. :D
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Wallbanger joke was the best IMO.

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#89 LookAnDrolL
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The sense of accomplishment after beating a wall with you own head is the definition of hardcore I'm too hardcore for a silly wall
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#90 EVOLV3
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I really wana try this game but I dont want to buy it, and renting it wouldn't give me enough time to finish it.

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#91 taj7575
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That was possibly my favorite one from him. That was awesome :lol:

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#92 hakanakumono
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I wanted to see what it was like so I watched a Japanese school girl play it on Nico Nico Douga. She said she wasn't good and apologized, but not after long she had people commenting on just how great she was at it.

It's not that hard. It just takes actual effort, which is a good thing.

WOW, yatzee picking up on a JRPG and a extremely unique one at that.

albeit imho it plays as just another action game with extremely well done hit/weapon detection
For someone who almost exclusively played WoW since its release, Demon's Souls was not hard at all and there are a ton of similaritys beyond the surface.

hot114

It's not really a JRPG.

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#93 zarshack
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Sounds like he didnt get very far rofl.

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#94 BPoole96
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That was pretty funny since a lot of the things he mentioned happened to me as well when I first started playing (except having trouble with the Phalanx, easy boss). Now that I'm on my 7th or 8th playthrough of the game it was nice being reminded how far my character has come

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#95 Ontain
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Pretty sad he thinks that the game shoudl completley stop for you so you can go into your inventory. Yeah, that would be reaaallly realistic if the world froze just for you to switch weapons. He also must have just been rushing through the level, because there are at least 2 shortcut routes(that act like checkpoints) you can unlock on 1-1 that he completley failed to notice. Sad really, although some of his analogies really had be cracken up. Pancake lady? LOL...truthiness1
lets not apply realism to a game with dragons, magic and walking dead.
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#96 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Demons souls is challenging,but fair. If you think the game is unfair then that means you just plain suck at this game. Its all about thinking before you strike.

Gxgear

The only thing unfair about Demon's Souls, if I had to nickpick, is that it doesn't tell you anything on how to play the game from the start (besides the button tutorial).

Thats the thing, there is no way to play the game. You create your own style of combat. I personally never used to lock on at all in the game. Hindered movement speed.
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#97 NAPK1NS
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Sounds like he was really bad at it. :?
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Demons souls is challenging,but fair. If you think the game is unfair then that means you just plain suck at this game. Its all about thinking before you strike.

The only thing unfair about Demon's Souls, if I had to nickpick, is that it doesn't tell you anything on how to play the game from the start (besides the button tutorial).

Thats the thing, there is no way to play the game. You create your own style of combat. I personally never used to lock on at all in the game. Hindered movement speed.

hard to use a spear w/o lock-on