Zoran Lazarevic vs. Bane

All of his points are fundamental misunderstandings of TDKR's story. I'm going to go over why each of them are wrong.

[spoiler] 1. The Catwoman thing is fairly obvious. It's ridiculous to not want her in the film since Anne Hathaway did a fantastic job capturing her character and her presence in the film spurred Bruce into leaving the mansion after eight years.

2. Bane never fought Catwoman.

3. Blowing up the football stadium, murdering the mayor of Gotham, breaking Batman's back and locking him in his former prison, freeing the inmates of Blackgate and establishing his mercenaries and thugs as Gotham's intermi government, and threatening the city with a nuke to keep them contained so everyone in Gotham is killed isn't enough for you? Besides, wanting Bane to be "chaotic" isn't what his character's about--he's working for Talia, he wants to destroy Gotham in an orderly and controller manner. The Joker is about chaos and anarchy--Bane is about power and control.

4. If you paid attention to the movie you'd know that Batman lost to Bane the first time because he didn't fear death. The old blind man in the prison cell told Bruce that the child who escaped the pit did so because she feared death and valued her own life, as symbolized by making the climb without a rope. When Bruce did the same thing, he came to fear death and realize his life was too precious to throw away. Besides that, his dedication to freeing Gotham was intensified over the course of three months of watching Bane's antics on television, and he trained his body extensively in the meantime.

5. Bane isn't a "mere pawn"; if you think he's less of a villain simply because he answers to Talia, you apparently think the movie would be better off without Talia, in which case you actually believe that having Bane be the son of Ra's al Ghul is acceptable. If you've read the comics you know it's not, and this way it's much more faithful to the established lore.

6. Bane was already beaten the moment Bruce climbed out of that pit. If you think his demise was "anticlimactic", I suppose you think Harvey Dent's death was too. At its essence, The Dark Knight trilogy isn't about cliched "epic battles"--it's about the symbolism and deeper meaning behind Batman. [/spoiler]

princeofshapeir

[spoiler] 1- I said, I didn't agree with number 1

2- This is correct, however she's like "oh a bunch of mindless thugs lol" and all of a sudden she's sacred to death of Bane with no reason other than picturing him as the main villian in the movie?? sorry, but she deserved an ass whoop in that movie.

3- Can't say I disagree... probably didn't pay enough attention to the initial point.

4- Yes, I understand that but the execution wasn't as good IMO... you see, Batman did kick Bane's ass but it was ruined by the whole revealing of Talia, and that was so anti-climatic if you ask me. What good is it to have your main threat beaten if he's gonna get back up on his feet and have you to the brink of death?? The way I see it, the fight between Bane and Batman should've come after Talia takes off. That way we could've ended with a triumphant picture of Batman over Bane without anything ruining this victory.

5- Might as well because, if you've read the comics you should know Talia doesn't hate Batman, but otherwise... and certainly doesn't love Bane. So in the end, it's like f**k the comics we'll do it our way and we want Talia to be the top cat in the movie just because she's the son of Ra's Al Ghul and she has a motif. And of course, I wasn't too happy to think Bane was Ra's son but at least it was consistant on why he was as badass as Batman without his venom.

6- And yet he had Batman about to recieve kick on his ass if it wasn't for Catwoman. I don't mind the fact that Batman was ssaved by her, but it was a lame end for a great villian. What about "Catwoman stops Bane from killing Batman with a couple kicks, Batman gets up to fight him and asks her to follow Talia while he deals with Bane"?? [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

All of his points are fundamental misunderstandings of TDKR's story. I'm going to go over why each of them are wrong.

[spoiler] 1. The Catwoman thing is fairly obvious. It's ridiculous to not want her in the film since Anne Hathaway did a fantastic job capturing her character and her presence in the film spurred Bruce into leaving the mansion after eight years.

2. Bane never fought Catwoman.

3. Blowing up the football stadium, murdering the mayor of Gotham, breaking Batman's back and locking him in his former prison, freeing the inmates of Blackgate and establishing his mercenaries and thugs as Gotham's intermi government, and threatening the city with a nuke to keep them contained so everyone in Gotham is killed isn't enough for you? Besides, wanting Bane to be "chaotic" isn't what his character's about--he's working for Talia, he wants to destroy Gotham in an orderly and controller manner. The Joker is about chaos and anarchy--Bane is about power and control.

4. If you paid attention to the movie you'd know that Batman lost to Bane the first time because he didn't fear death. The old blind man in the prison cell told Bruce that the child who escaped the pit did so because she feared death and valued her own life, as symbolized by making the climb without a rope. When Bruce did the same thing, he came to fear death and realize his life was too precious to throw away. Besides that, his dedication to freeing Gotham was intensified over the course of three months of watching Bane's antics on television, and he trained his body extensively in the meantime.

5. Bane isn't a "mere pawn"; if you think he's less of a villain simply because he answers to Talia, you apparently think the movie would be better off without Talia, in which case you actually believe that having Bane be the son of Ra's al Ghul is acceptable. If you've read the comics you know it's not, and this way it's much more faithful to the established lore.

6. Bane was already beaten the moment Bruce climbed out of that pit. If you think his demise was "anticlimactic", I suppose you think Harvey Dent's death was too. At its essence, The Dark Knight trilogy isn't about cliched "epic battles"--it's about the symbolism and deeper meaning behind Batman. [/spoiler]

GreenGoblin2099

[spoiler] 1- I said, I didn't agree with number 1

2- This is correct, however she's like "oh a bunch of mindless thugs lol" and all of a sudden she's sacred to death of Bane with no reason other than picturing him as the main villian in the movie?? sorry, but she deserved an ass whoop in that movie.

3- Can't say I disagree... probably didn't pay enough attention to the initial point.

4- Yes, I understand that but the execution wasn't as good IMO... you see, Batman did kick Bane's ass but it was ruined by the whole revealing of Talia, and that was so anti-climatic if you ask me. What good is it to have your main threat beaten if he's gonna get back up on his feet and have you to the brink of death?? The way I see it, the fight between Bane and Batman should've come after Talia takes off. That way we could've ended with a triumphant picture of Batman over Bane without anything ruining this victory.

5- Might as well because, if you've read the comics you should know Talia doesn't hate Batman, but otherwise... and certainly doesn't love Bane. So in the end, it's like f**k the comics we'll do it our way and we want Talia to be the top cat in the movie just because she's the son of Ra's Al Ghul and she has a motif. And of course, I wasn't too happy to think Bane was Ra's son but at least it was consistant on why he was as badass as Batman without his venom.

6- And yet he had Batman about to recieve kick on his ass if it wasn't for Catwoman. I don't mind the fact that Batman was ssaved by her, but it was a lame end for a great villian. What about "Catwoman stops Bane from killing Batman with a couple kicks, Batman gets up to fight him and asks her to follow Talia while he deals with Bane"?? [/spoiler]

[spoiler]

2. Selina Kyle was smack bang dead on in this movie and anyone who syas otherwise is a moron. She's NOT catwoman. In a sense she is but they never call her that so people talking about the movie shouldn't either, they never call her catwoman for that reason. She's just a normal thief.

4. again it's not about cliche stereotypical fights and endings. You can't have batman beat bane because he would never kill him so he would have just beat him up and got his triumphant pose while the crowd is left thinking "Can't he just get back up?" this way Selina killed him outright and sure it was a little sudden but it was supposed to be. What people should be more angry and annoyed about is the god awful death scene of Talia. It was the worst acted death I have ever seen.

5. Nolan's batman movies have all pretty much been a fvck you to the comics and his own personal take on it in a far mroe grounded approach. In his trilogy the Talia and bane and Ra's thing makes more sense for his twist.

6. again the only way to beat bane is to kill him and batman never kills. So your point is moot

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^^^^ For the sake of those who haven't seen the movie, remove the spoilers man :P. [You too carl, someone might read the quote]

And there won't be a 4th batman movie, Nolan said he's done with the series.

XVision84

Normally, I do put spoiler tags when I talk about relevant movies. But if you get spoiled because you decided to wait more than two weeks and to see the movie and decide to click on a thread regarding Bane, the antagonist of the film, and thread through the pages discussing this chracter, then I have no respect for you. Also because GS is a pain and when I click edit my message gets piled into one giant paragraph wall of text so I can't be bothered :p

Anyways. TDK:R was so "bad" that Nolan NEEDS to make a 4th now. The Dark Knight to this date is still my benchmark for showing off my 7.1 surround / 100" projection screen to friends/family/visitors, I love that movie so much I've watched it at least a dozen times (not kidding /exaggerating) Even a 10th or 15th time watching it those 2 and half hours just fly by like it was a 20 minute action scene. TDK:R left me a little bit bored at times and it was the first time viewing it! And to that guy who supposedly attempted to adress my points didn't neglect anything of them, they are still very much valid.

[spoiler] Catwoman was a b*tch and why did Batman do nothing to Catwoman after she stole his mothers pearls, stole his car, led him to his death etc? Batman's logic: better kiss her and give her my bike as a reward!
And to some up catwoman/batman's actions in the movie:

Catwoman:
* killed Bane
* shot down Bane's army

Batman
* didn't do anything except getting his ass kicked by Bane, getting robbed by catwoman, nearly killed by Talia and needing to be saved from the hero of gotham; catwoman

And I don't remember how Talia died, her car/van crashed, did Catwoman shoot her truck or make her crash? *NOT SURE ON THIS ONE* I don't remember but if it was indeed Catwoman, then this movie is a terrible joke.

Nolan made Batman a b*tch.

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My initial response
after Begins: Wow, Bruce/Batman is such a BAD ASS! :cool:
After TDK: Oh my god, what a true hero :cry:
after TDK:R.. Nolan why did you make Batman:

[spoiler] Catwoman was a b*tch and why did Batman do nothing to Catwoman after she stole his mothers pearls, stole his car, led him to his death etc? Batman's logic: better kiss her and give her my bike as a reward!
And to some up catwoman/batman's actions in the movie:

Catwoman:
* killed Bane
* shot down Bane's army

Batman
* didn't do anything except getting his ass kicked by Bane, getting robbed by catwoman, nearly killed by Talia and needing to be saved from the hero of gotham; catwoman

And I don't remember how Talia died, her car/van crashed, did Catwoman shoot her truck or make her crash? *NOT SURE ON THIS ONE* I don't remember but if it was indeed Catwoman, then this movie is a terrible joke.

Nolan made Batman a b*tch.

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Mozelleple112

[spoiler]

You don't get characterisation do you? Then again you do praise MGS4 endlessly

anyway Bruce doesn't punish selina because he doesn't give much of a fvck about anything. Since losing rachel he just lets everything go. He's not batman and he doesn't care about Wayne enterprises. Also he's rich so stealing a car is fvck all to him. Later on when he gets some sense back he sees some good in her and part of himself (don't forget he was once stealing stuff albeit apples and crap but he was still not a good person and was sent to prison where he met Ra's) so he tries to make her a better person as he knows she can be. She's a Robin Hood of sorts too, stealing from the rich for the poor. She's not doing it for herself all the time

Selina had to kill bane cos batman never would and otherwise just keep fighting. But you're also forgetting she couldn't have done these things without batman's gadgets and his help. It shows her finally overcoming evil and becoming a better person

Batman lost first so you could see he was human and mortal. It had to raise the stakes. And he wasn't nearly killed by Talia. She only stabbed him with a small knife (symbolism - stabbed in the back/side) You seem to be forgetting that batman was willing to kill himself to save EVERYONE and he did just that. He saved the entire city, no one else brought off that bomb. He didn't just get his ass kicked.

Talia died when her truck drove off a freeway during a chase with Batman's batwing

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

All of his points are fundamental misunderstandings of TDKR's story. I'm going to go over why each of them are wrong.

[spoiler] 1. The Catwoman thing is fairly obvious. It's ridiculous to not want her in the film since Anne Hathaway did a fantastic job capturing her character and her presence in the film spurred Bruce into leaving the mansion after eight years.

2. Bane never fought Catwoman.

3. Blowing up the football stadium, murdering the mayor of Gotham, breaking Batman's back and locking him in his former prison, freeing the inmates of Blackgate and establishing his mercenaries and thugs as Gotham's intermi government, and threatening the city with a nuke to keep them contained so everyone in Gotham is killed isn't enough for you? Besides, wanting Bane to be "chaotic" isn't what his character's about--he's working for Talia, he wants to destroy Gotham in an orderly and controller manner. The Joker is about chaos and anarchy--Bane is about power and control.

4. If you paid attention to the movie you'd know that Batman lost to Bane the first time because he didn't fear death. The old blind man in the prison cell told Bruce that the child who escaped the pit did so because she feared death and valued her own life, as symbolized by making the climb without a rope. When Bruce did the same thing, he came to fear death and realize his life was too precious to throw away. Besides that, his dedication to freeing Gotham was intensified over the course of three months of watching Bane's antics on television, and he trained his body extensively in the meantime.

5. Bane isn't a "mere pawn"; if you think he's less of a villain simply because he answers to Talia, you apparently think the movie would be better off without Talia, in which case you actually believe that having Bane be the son of Ra's al Ghul is acceptable. If you've read the comics you know it's not, and this way it's much more faithful to the established lore.

6. Bane was already beaten the moment Bruce climbed out of that pit. If you think his demise was "anticlimactic", I suppose you think Harvey Dent's death was too. At its essence, The Dark Knight trilogy isn't about cliched "epic battles"--it's about the symbolism and deeper meaning behind Batman. [/spoiler]

seanmcloughlin

[spoiler] 1- I said, I didn't agree with number 1

2- This is correct, however she's like "oh a bunch of mindless thugs lol" and all of a sudden she's sacred to death of Bane with no reason other than picturing him as the main villian in the movie?? sorry, but she deserved an ass whoop in that movie.

3- Can't say I disagree... probably didn't pay enough attention to the initial point.

4- Yes, I understand that but the execution wasn't as good IMO... you see, Batman did kick Bane's ass but it was ruined by the whole revealing of Talia, and that was so anti-climatic if you ask me. What good is it to have your main threat beaten if he's gonna get back up on his feet and have you to the brink of death?? The way I see it, the fight between Bane and Batman should've come after Talia takes off. That way we could've ended with a triumphant picture of Batman over Bane without anything ruining this victory.

5- Might as well because, if you've read the comics you should know Talia doesn't hate Batman, but otherwise... and certainly doesn't love Bane. So in the end, it's like f**k the comics we'll do it our way and we want Talia to be the top cat in the movie just because she's the son of Ra's Al Ghul and she has a motif. And of course, I wasn't too happy to think Bane was Ra's son but at least it was consistant on why he was as badass as Batman without his venom.

6- And yet he had Batman about to recieve kick on his ass if it wasn't for Catwoman. I don't mind the fact that Batman was ssaved by her, but it was a lame end for a great villian. What about "Catwoman stops Bane from killing Batman with a couple kicks, Batman gets up to fight him and asks her to follow Talia while he deals with Bane"?? [/spoiler]

[spoiler]

2. Selina Kyle was smack bang dead on in this movie and anyone who syas otherwise is a moron. She's NOT catwoman. In a sense she is but they never call her that so people talking about the movie shouldn't either, they never call her catwoman for that reason. She's just a normal thief.

4. again it's not about cliche stereotypical fights and endings. You can't have batman beat bane because he would never kill him so he would have just beat him up and got his triumphant pose while the crowd is left thinking "Can't he just get back up?" this way Selina killed him outright and sure it was a little sudden but it was supposed to be. What people should be more angry and annoyed about is the god awful death scene of Talia. It was the worst acted death I have ever seen.

5. Nolan's batman movies have all pretty much been a fvck you to the comics and his own personal take on it in a far mroe grounded approach. In his trilogy the Talia and bane and Ra's thing makes more sense for his twist.

6. again the only way to beat bane is to kill him and batman never kills. So your point is moot

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[spoiler] 2- She's not called that but we know "who" she is, as Selina Kyle IS Catwoman... but this isn't worth arguing over TBH.

4+5+6- Cliche or not cliche, the point is there was never a true win over Bane and this is not the Batman we know. Batman doesn't kill their enemies that's true, but "can't he just get back up?" Yes, they can but when you know Batman has overcome that guy in the past, you know it doesn't matter if he gets back up or not. The point is he has tasted defeat on the hands of Batman, and will surely come back for revenge as all Batman's villians do.

Also, yeah, Talia's death was pretty lame... but the point that pissed me off the most was the whole Robin thing. I mean, WTF???? you just said the movies are a big "f*k to the comics" but this one kinda crossed the line for me, kinda like "f**k every thing you know" thing... and of course, the hint that he's probably gonna be the next Batman. DAMN!!!! [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

All of his points are fundamental misunderstandings of TDKR's story. I'm going to go over why each of them are wrong.

[spoiler] 1. The Catwoman thing is fairly obvious. It's ridiculous to not want her in the film since Anne Hathaway did a fantastic job capturing her character and her presence in the film spurred Bruce into leaving the mansion after eight years.

2. Bane never fought Catwoman.

3. Blowing up the football stadium, murdering the mayor of Gotham, breaking Batman's back and locking him in his former prison, freeing the inmates of Blackgate and establishing his mercenaries and thugs as Gotham's intermi government, and threatening the city with a nuke to keep them contained so everyone in Gotham is killed isn't enough for you? Besides, wanting Bane to be "chaotic" isn't what his character's about--he's working for Talia, he wants to destroy Gotham in an orderly and controller manner. The Joker is about chaos and anarchy--Bane is about power and control.

4. If you paid attention to the movie you'd know that Batman lost to Bane the first time because he didn't fear death. The old blind man in the prison cell told Bruce that the child who escaped the pit did so because she feared death and valued her own life, as symbolized by making the climb without a rope. When Bruce did the same thing, he came to fear death and realize his life was too precious to throw away. Besides that, his dedication to freeing Gotham was intensified over the course of three months of watching Bane's antics on television, and he trained his body extensively in the meantime.

5. Bane isn't a "mere pawn"; if you think he's less of a villain simply because he answers to Talia, you apparently think the movie would be better off without Talia, in which case you actually believe that having Bane be the son of Ra's al Ghul is acceptable. If you've read the comics you know it's not, and this way it's much more faithful to the established lore.

6. Bane was already beaten the moment Bruce climbed out of that pit. If you think his demise was "anticlimactic", I suppose you think Harvey Dent's death was too. At its essence, The Dark Knight trilogy isn't about cliched "epic battles"--it's about the symbolism and deeper meaning behind Batman. [/spoiler]

seanmcloughlin

[spoiler] 1- I said, I didn't agree with number 1

2- This is correct, however she's like "oh a bunch of mindless thugs lol" and all of a sudden she's sacred to death of Bane with no reason other than picturing him as the main villian in the movie?? sorry, but she deserved an ass whoop in that movie.

3- Can't say I disagree... probably didn't pay enough attention to the initial point.

4- Yes, I understand that but the execution wasn't as good IMO... you see, Batman did kick Bane's ass but it was ruined by the whole revealing of Talia, and that was so anti-climatic if you ask me. What good is it to have your main threat beaten if he's gonna get back up on his feet and have you to the brink of death?? The way I see it, the fight between Bane and Batman should've come after Talia takes off. That way we could've ended with a triumphant picture of Batman over Bane without anything ruining this victory.

5- Might as well because, if you've read the comics you should know Talia doesn't hate Batman, but otherwise... and certainly doesn't love Bane. So in the end, it's like f**k the comics we'll do it our way and we want Talia to be the top cat in the movie just because she's the son of Ra's Al Ghul and she has a motif. And of course, I wasn't too happy to think Bane was Ra's son but at least it was consistant on why he was as badass as Batman without his venom.

6- And yet he had Batman about to recieve kick on his ass if it wasn't for Catwoman. I don't mind the fact that Batman was ssaved by her, but it was a lame end for a great villian. What about "Catwoman stops Bane from killing Batman with a couple kicks, Batman gets up to fight him and asks her to follow Talia while he deals with Bane"?? [/spoiler]

[spoiler]

2. Selina Kyle was smack bang dead on in this movie and anyone who syas otherwise is a moron. She's NOT catwoman. In a sense she is but they never call her that so people talking about the movie shouldn't either, they never call her catwoman for that reason. She's just a normal thief.

4. again it's not about cliche stereotypical fights and endings. You can't have batman beat bane because he would never kill him so he would have just beat him up and got his triumphant pose while the crowd is left thinking "Can't he just get back up?" this way Selina killed him outright and sure it was a little sudden but it was supposed to be. What people should be more angry and annoyed about is the god awful death scene of Talia. It was the worst acted death I have ever seen.

5. Nolan's batman movies have all pretty much been a fvck you to the comics and his own personal take on it in a far mroe grounded approach. In his trilogy the Talia and bane and Ra's thing makes more sense for his twist.

6. again the only way to beat bane is to kill him and batman never kills. So your point is moot

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[spoiler] Catwoman was a b*tch and why did Batman do nothing to Catwoman after she stole his mothers pearls, stole his car, led him to his death etc? Batman's logic: better kiss her and give her my bike as a reward!
And to some up catwoman/batman's actions in the movie:

Catwoman:
* killed Bane
* shot down Bane's army

Batman
* didn't do anything except getting his ass kicked by Bane, getting robbed by catwoman, nearly killed by Talia and needing to be saved from the hero of gotham; catwoman

And I don't remember how Talia died, her car/van crashed, did Catwoman shoot her truck or make her crash? *NOT SURE ON THIS ONE* I don't remember but if it was indeed Catwoman, then this movie is a terrible joke.

Nolan made Batman a b*tch.

[/spoiler]

seanmcloughlin

[spoiler]

You don't get characterisation do you? Then again you do praise MGS4 endlessly

anyway Bruce doesn't punish selina because he doesn't give much of a fvck about anything. Since losing rachel he just lets everything go. He's not batman and he doesn't care about Wayne enterprises. Also he's rich so stealing a car is fvck all to him. Later on when he gets some sense back he sees some good in her and part of himself (don't forget he was once stealing stuff albeit apples and crap but he was still not a good person and was sent to prison where he met Ra's) so he tries to make her a better person as he knows she can be. She's a Robin Hood of sorts too, stealing from the rich for the poor. She's not doing it for herself all the time

Selina had to kill bane cos batman never would and otherwise just keep fighting. But you're also forgetting she couldn't have done these things without batman's gadgets and his help. It shows her finally overcoming evil and becoming a better person

Batman lost first so you could see he was human and mortal. It had to raise the stakes. And he wasn't nearly killed by Talia. She only stabbed him with a small knife (symbolism - stabbed in the back/side) You seem to be forgetting that batman was willing to kill himself to save EVERYONE and he did just that. He saved the entire city, no one else brought off that bomb. He didn't just get his ass kicked.

Talia died when her truck drove off a freeway during a chase with Batman's batwing

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Anyways, you guys can argue all you like. The movie was terrible by Nolan's standards. General consensus agrees with me, loads of people claiming it is terrible. All my friends loved it, because they didn't have high hopes like a true batman fan like myself had. I thought TDK:R was going to be an epic conclusion to the best trilogy in movie history (yeah, inb4: Godfather, Star Wars, LOTR..) instead I was served a total b*tchfest were the wh**e didn't get the black eye she deserved and Batman... wasn't Batman at all. And Talia's joke of a death scene. And Bane's joke of an end-scene. and so on.

Here's for hoping Nolan will realize he should've killed off catwoman and restore the masculinity in Batman and truly give us a **** conclusion and epic masterpiece like BB/TDK.

The Dark Knight Falls? :cool: Robin Begins? Both would be epic. Leonardio Decaprio would play a 100% perfect Riddler a la Heath Ledger's Joker, and the Riddler fits perfectly into Nolan's dark, gritty, psychiatric and realistic universe. And Leonardo is part of the "Nolan crew". Not to mention how much Leo looks like the Riddler!!!

Though in my opinion it would've been better off having The Dark Knight Falls as movie #3 with The Riddler, give us a similar to the Joker story, have catwoman in it and she can be the w**re she was in Rises, even kill of the Riddler and steal the show, then The Dark Knight Rises as #4, with Bane killing catwoman and being beaten (by removal of his mask) at Batman's hand.. similar to Begins ending (I won't kill you Bane, but I don't have to save you), giving the proper climatic/epic ending/conclusion/experience.

Bane kicked Batman's ass... he wins by default.

GreenGoblin2099

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Bane kicked Batman's ass... he wins by default.

rjdofu

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Bane kicked Batman's ass... he wins by default.

Mozelleple112

Take it easy, man... truth is, the movie is far from being bad. It's actually a kick ass movie, even if Batman doesn't stand out as much as he should have.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]GreenGoblin2099

Take it easy, man... truth is, the movie is far from being bad. It's actually a kick ass movie, even if Batman doesn't stand out as much as he should have.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Bane kicked Batman's ass... he wins by default.

Mozelleple112

Zoran Lazarevic-a cookie-cutter villain from a cookie-cutter game...

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] *spoilersseanmcloughlin

It's a well known fact bane breaks batmans back in the comics and beats him forcing him to learn how to be batman again

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] But then he got shot by Catwoman. Badass status completely removed. Thanks Nolan for ruining what could have been my favourite movie of all time :cry: Mozelleple112

Take it easy, man... truth is, the movie is far from being bad. It's actually a kick ass movie, even if Batman doesn't stand out as much as he should have.

Then you will never enjoy much of anything

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] how about you stop posting spoilers of the end of the movie?BrunoBRS

It's a well known fact bane breaks batmans back in the comics and beats him forcing him to learn how to be batman again

For some reason before I thought you were talking to me, not mozz, when you said to stop posting spoilers. Makes more sense now :P He is revealing a bit TOO much but it's only cos he hates the movie and wants everyone else to hate it too so he has to point out the flaws all the time.

And no I didn't know it wasn't out in Italy yet, weird. But I still think if anyone cares about getting spoiled they wouldn't come in here and if they really care about the story they've learned what happens already anyway.

This is not a SW thread.

super600

Bane kicked Batman's ass... he wins by default.

GreenGoblin2099

Bane on Arkham Asylum series loses to Lazarevic. But Bane on The Dark Knight rises wins by far.

...and this is the problem with Uncharted. It just isn't memorable.

Maybe if the Thread was about best girls butt shot Uncharted would have a chance.