Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - the anti-spoiler edition

NOTE: this game is to be consider different from the alucard game announce on TGS by IGA. posted here

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SPOILER WARNING: Below you would find all news that we find about the game that is now in develope. This thread is NOT spoiler free  you would find at some point, story-relate, charactes, screeshots, clips...

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Castlevania .

Castlevania: Lord of Shadows

Released date: October 5, 2010 (NA) and October 7, 2010 (EU) and October 8, 2010 (UK) sources: NA and EU and UK .. Thus Konami says this are speculations (SPECULATIONS, NO LONGER!!!)

Deecember 16, 2010 JP (confirmed by trailer shows at TGS 2010)

System: PS3 and Xbox360

Reviews: to come

Characters:

Gabriel Belmont: a holy knigt part of the Brotherhood of Light.

Marie Belmont: Gabriel`s dead wife.

Zobek: Gabriel`s mentor

Pan: a guide to gabriel?

Claudia: ....

Laura:

Olrox:

The Abbot Dorin: ???

Cornel: 

Brauner:

Necromacer: (a note in JP HIDEO Kojima himself would do the voice for this lil one)

Carmilla: 

DEATh: ....

?Dracula (rumors by voice in the extended trailer - link below- )

Enemies: swordmaster, werewolf, Golem, Ogre, Pixies (no sure if this is an enemy), Lady of the forest (?boss vs the voice that describe the mask as powerfull), wolf, skeletons, zombie,Knight Armor, ... and MANY New and FAMILIAR enemies!!!!

Story: 

I quote the Interview with Cox at Cologne linked below: "It doesn't follow any Castlevania timeline, says Cox, because Konami didn't want to limit the potential audience to the truly hardcore. As it stands, the story unfolds inside a bubble of the Castlevania universe so that anybody can understand it regardless of their experience or history with the series."

" Takes plays during the end of days you must bring balance to a world plagued by undead souls and evil creatures. Gabriel, a holy knight beloging to the Botherhood of Light would be guided by the soul of his dead wife... and hold the the "Combat Cross" .." - source August issue of GameInformer.

"My wife Maria was murdered by the evil that roams this land,....." .... "The mask is a powerfull device" "Can it really bring the dead back?" .... - extracted from the NEW trailer linked below.

"The story itself will be told via more than an hour of cinematics, the longest of which lasts upward of 14 minutes, according to the producer." from IGN interview, linked below.

Features:

* Combat Cross (the whip) as your main weapon. The clasics subweapons, as knives, holy water. You would collect orbs to upgrade the Combat Cross and subweapons. Also  Light and Dark magic for attack and defense.

* Great enphasis on platforming and enviromental naviagation, where the whip would also be use to hold object and pull Gabriel up/swim.

* Will feature no just enemies and allies, but animals and human (?unclear if we would interact with last 2 or they would be just part of enviroment/story) Same with Gabriel riding a horse and a eagle (?part of gameplay)

* With FIFTY Levels to complete where you would find reference to the 8 and 16 bit era. Also would have the the option - SotN-like to go back and get a 200.6%!!!!  More linear gameplay, Cox refer to it as more the sty/e of Super CV4, than the recents releases (no metroidvania). But despict being linear areas will open-up for exploration. And the game would have traps and environment-based puzzles, given the game a great mix. 

* No quick sequence confirmed, the battles with the "Titans" is based on pure plataforming: "getting from one point to the next and attack" better explain by gameradar interview linked below when they asked Cox...

You've said bosses are a focus, but fights won't be dominated by Quick Time Events (QTEs). Can you give us an example of how Gabriel might fight a Titan-sized boss?The Ice Titan from the trailer is a real-time combat and platforming experience. You climb the Titan's arm by using the Combat Cross's Grip ability. He punches the ice in the lake to try to smash you and gets his fist stuck, so you take the opportunity to latch on.The surface of the Titan has gripping points, allowing you to make your way to one of the runes that animate the creature. Stab the rune with the Combat Cross and you'll destroy it. The Ice Titan will then try to swat you off, but this allows you to swing from one hand to the other.Break the Titan's chest rune, and it'll reel in pain, allowing you to swing from the Titan's chin, over his shoulder and onto his back. Climb across, but beware of falling debris and the Titan swatting you away. Climb onto his head to find the final rune. Problem is the Titan will try to knock you off and shake his head to dislodge you. But… well, there are some more surprises, but that's basically how the Titan fights work.It's a stage in itself where you have to use all of your platforming abilities to get to the runes. Everything is in real time and there are no QTEs in these Titan fights. You go from point A to B, but on a gigantic enemy. Oh, and the Ice Titan is the smallest Titan in the game

* The enemies will be familiar to all Castlevania fans with the clasics werewolf and vampires; and the addition of figures as the Ice Titans. Also enemies and bosses will attack the character in real-time as show by some cutscene in the trailer.

* Control scheme (they use ps3 as example), quoted from IGN interview:  "Gabriel is manipulated with the controller's analog stick; right stick function uncorfimed. Square is for short-range directional attacks; triangle ranged attacks, X jumps, and circle uses secondary weapons like the aforementioned daggers and holy water. You won't need to worry about camera controls because the angles are fixed." Camera fixed confirmed by Cox on his twitter.

Cast/Developers:

Develope by: MercuryStream Entertaiment (studio of American McGee`s and Jericho) with Kojima Productions .

Music by a Oscar Araujo, Spanish film composer; who would use clasic themes of Castlevania, which would be play by a 120 pieces orchesta. Oscar`s website

Voice acting: PLEASE take this info as RUMOR, NO OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION yet.only source is here, which did not posted original source and imdb.com also confirmed some of this.

Jason Isaacs as...?main antagonist.

Robert Carlyle as Gabriel Belmont

Patrick Stewart as Zobek

Natascha McElhone as Marie.

Official Website:Castlevania Official SITE 

Preorder bonus:

On amazon: 20$US gift coupon for your next game.

On Gamestop: a T-shirt, which you can look in here

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NEWS (lastest news 1st) (confirmed)

preview and interview with Cox

GameSpot impressions, Kotaku has NOTHING bad to say about LoS and IGN defenetly LOVED the 1st 8h of the game

Interview with Cox, DLC info also include clip of footage.

360 achievements

COLLECTOR EDITION, NA and COLLECTOR EDITION, EU 

NA version includes the game, soundtrack, an artbook, all in an special package.

The EU version is the same but instead of an artbook it has a replica of the mask.

maybe no an OCtober release

scans of GI article about the game

After impressions at Konami gamer`s day:

# JoyStiq impression

# IGN

# GameSpot

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The 1st North America magazine release for Lords of Shadow thanks to Game Informer! Follow the link for more info and scan of the page!!!!

Two new articles from IGN.com and VG247.com with 3 *NEW* pics. Follow the link for more info and the pics. ENJOY!

New article from Marca Player(?) with more details and TRANSLATION!

Interview by GameRadar

Marca Player, a magazine from Spain revealed details of the game after a exclusive interview with Cox direct IMAGE HERE and TRANSLATION of each page right below that post...

Answers by DAVE COX!!!! - roll to the 3rd post in that thread. Thx to Semi for bringing this to us from THE CHAPEL!!!

Cox give a HUGE HINT in twitter

Interviews with producer David Cox at Cologne, Germany. GamesCon, 2009. You can read it IGN's here and 1up's here.

Play-asia have it up online with description that give background/story..

 A concerning author Atonish atmosphere, but...

Kojima interview and his confirmation on his blog: Kojima afirms "support rle"

1up.com says: "Konami showed off a new trailer for the game, which began with a voiceover by none other than Patrick Stewart. "My wife Maria was murdered by the evil that roams this land," Stewart says, as a castle is visible in the background and main character Gabriel -- wielding an axe -- stands in the foreground. Gabriel's armor is reminiscent of Simon Belmont's in Simon's Quest, and he proceeds to swing his way into the castle while using a whip, the aforementioned axe, and a hammer, fighting large monsters along the way." and finished the article with a question taht we all may have: "Now the only question that remains is: What happened to long-time Castlevania mastermind Koji Igarashi?"

Dave Cox, producer on the game, says that this is "a new and bold take on the Castlevania mythology. It's a fresh and radical re-imagining in a rich, open game world."  from here, destructoid article

Great image here

One of many articles confirming the release

do we finally have a confirmation of that clip leak a while ago?? - even if the characters on the teaser and trailer are so different... Would we get any respond on E3 2009?

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Videos: Clips and gameplay.

Soundtracks:

To come 

Gameplays:

NEW Full DEMO release on 9/29/10 on the PSN EU: part one and part twomay contain spoilers.

NEW GameTrailer Official Media page. MAJOR SPOILERS where you will find Teasers, interviews, Trailers, and gameplays from small clips to fight with boss to a FULL walkthrought... WATCH, ENJOY, LOVE.... 

Ice Titan BattleSPOILERS on strategies and so on...

Comic-con 2010 demo part1

Comic-con 2010 demo part2

more footage and HERE with subtittles

Trailers/Teasers:

NEW TRAILER from TGS 2010 AMAZING!!!!

Extended Trailer from GamesCom

NEW trailer link to the official site, where the trailer is... 

show in E3 when I better one come I`ll update.

Is this the new Castlevania??

Others/Interviews:

Interview with Davod Cox at E3

Clip with ART CONCEPTS of the game

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Screenshots:

more gorgeous screenshots for our viewing pleasure

This Post have tons of art and screenshots of MANY characters/enemies

Screens after Konami gamer`s day

New Screenshots... roll down for slideshow LOVELY images!!!! 

VAMPIRE

New Gallery from GamesCon 2009 Amazing backgrounds and gore is introduce to Castlevania. Thx to Kotaku.com

http://cache-foo.gawkerassets.com/gawker/assets/images/9/2009/08/504x_CV_LOS_gamescom_1.jpg

http://screens.latestscreens.com/xbox360/screenshots/castlevanialordsofshadow/E3_2009_LOS_003.jpg

http://screens.latestscreens.com/xbox360/screenshots/castlevanialordsofshadow/E3_2009_LOS_004.jpg

source of above herewhere you can see more images.

Others image (konami official art, wallpapers..)

Famitsu scans June 10, 2009.

Colossavania image via PS magazine November 18, 2009

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Previews:

Computer and videogames, LOVED the game and let us know that OXM as well as GameMaster and Xbox World 360 also LOVE the game.

The game has been given GamesMaster's Gold Award, along with Xbox World 360's Star Player accolade. Both are only bestowed on games that crack the elusive 90% barrier.

preview and interview with Cox

GameSpot impressions, Kotaku has NOTHING bad to say about LoS and IGN defenetly LOVED the 1st 8h of the game Also Computer and videogames tells Kratos to look over his shoulder

G4tv short preview some comments, couple of seconds of gameplay... enjoy

gameinsider impression

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1. Trailer done! Just hope they like it! :-)12:46 PM Dec 8thfrom web
2. @Nagumo_sama Hey Nagumo, Gabriel is indeed a Belmont! :)11:22 AM Dec 15thfrom Twitterrific in reply to Nagumo_sama
3. @Nagumo_sama Nope, it doesn't replace VK. Can't say more than that for now...11:39 AM Dec 15thfrom Twitterrific in reply to Nagumo_sama

I'm very interested in this and I know they didn't show much but it didn't feel anything like a castlevania game to me. I hope it will retain some feel of the series especially the music.

I missed the conference and haven't looked into anything yet so I don't know much about the game yet.

I'm highly excited as gamer. It looks absolutely incredible.

However, its not castlevania in the slightest, and that dissapoints me, as a Castlevania fan. I'll remain optimistic, but despite the flaws, I prefer IGA's atmospheric games, at least at this point. The game has potential, but...Id unno, I'm just not feeling it.

OH MAN! Thank you! This is what I've been waiting for. As for the "CV feel", I thought I'd be the one on the pessimistic side after playing CV for 20+ years. So far from the truth- I'm pumped! Aesthetically, I love the 2D platforms, but am craving more......intensity maybe? More seriousness? Freshness? Something has been lacking from the series for awhile, and like the times, need to embrace some kind of change.

As for Patrick Stewart....it brought a tear to my eye. :P

It looks exactly like God of War, albeit with a kinda Castlevania-ish skin. It is also being made by Kojima, whose games I despise.

Not. Excited.

Yet another reason for me to get a PS3D3j1k0

everyone should have one. if only they werent evil and trying to take control of everything...(i think my ps3 ate my neighbors cat)

@ice: how can you say that, that god among men made metal gear solid.

but im excited about this too, im very interested in these lords and their stories. cant wait for semi to do some diggin on the games infor.

@ice: how can you say that, that god among men made metal gear solid.HushRong

@ice, we should discuss this on an off-topic thread. for realzies

i just saw the pics for LoS...they look good. so im lookin forward to some nice enviroments.

I've been more interested in finding out what IGA's been up to, actually. I've done what I can, its waiting time now.semianonymous

It is also being made by Kojima, whose games I despise.

Not. Excited.

Icemael

Actually, that's incorrect. Kojima is not the lead producer in this new title. He is helping fund it and make sure it gets published, but the producer is a guy named Dave Cox.

Quote from Kojima:

[3:44] Kojima says he's known Cox for a decade, and believes that he's one of the most passionate gamers in the company and will be great for Castlevania. He also praises the talent at Mercury Steam.

[3:45] As for Kojima's role, he says he's there to support the team, likening himself to a midwife helping the team give birth to the new Castlevania.

Found here: Link

I think that the look in the game is quite nice... It has some gothic sense to me, I do not know why ppl keep saying otherwise. I mean the clothes of the main character are completely renacent time (or however you spell that), the castle and the enviroment have some really nice gothic sty/e. Now that said yea, it looks a lot like GoW in the gameplay mainly for what I look... and the huge moster. But 1. these mosters are suppose to be huge. 2. the usual formula DID NOT work for 3D CV, we have proof of that. The previews two were nice, great story, but the gameplay was not the excitement that CV should be.And the lvl design was pathettic. So I guess I`m trying to say, we can not have a CV look like LoI that has so nicely and make it good, simple bc that do not work. SO we needed a lil change in the formula. And so far this ppl are doing great. Now they have a lot more that look to work on... story (which HAS to be great), music (which HAS  - extra emphasis - to be CASTLEVANIA) and of course gameplay...

So far...

The enemies look GREAT.. that wolf, zombies and ?skeletons, werewolf, ..., that black bird which name I have forgotten, the golem, taht other huge moster (which is pry the only one I do not like, but it does not feel CV)... they are all GREAT... (which remind me SEMI and all others.. I need help naming all the enemis we think are in the trailer... I also found a clip in youtube with art of characters which is quite nice... )

The enviroment look incredible, really detailed. With great light and dark. some areas with a really nice dark enviroment...

Now it could go wrong, mainly they could have a lame story which for me would be devasteting. And I do admit I got concern when I saw the producer.  But I guess time would tell, I like to think that I`m smartly hyped. :P

I've been more interested in finding out what IGA's been up to, actually. I've done what I can, its waiting time now. semianonymous

me too... I though we`ll here something from here. I think this is the 1st E3 he was not in. I try looking for news, but nothing was found. and if you did not found anything well, is bc there is nothing to find... :?

I've also been informed that there will be a character entitled Dick McCockington.

Right, sorry, I'm done I swear.

Anyways, Patrick Stewart doing his first game VO since Oblivion. Your opinions?

Personally, I'm neutral. He has a good voice, but I'm not a huge fan of his work in general.

I'm not really sure why there's so much negativity towards this game now. Because the producer was announced? I mean it's nice you all like IGA's work as much as I do, but flaming the title just because he is not producing this new game is unnatural. It's like flaming the original Castlevania games, because IGA didn't work on them.

As far as Patrick Stewart, I think it should be a sign that they're not holding out on making this game good. They actually got someone who can produce a great voice instead of people we have never heard of before.

Edit: Thanks Chang for the video. It was pretty neat to see some of the art.

As long as Patrick Seitz is still on board, I'm fine. Dracula without Seitz is not Dracula to me anymore.

Next up, my issue is how they introduced the game. Castlevania games have this atmosphere, this elegant beauty in the most recent games. Order of Ecclesia was introduced with an excellent intro movie, really beautiful.

This one is introduced with a bit of art and then BOOM LOOK ACTION VIOLENCE ADVENTURE and lets ignore all of the level design and details and diversity in favor of DEUS EX MACHINA CROSS THAT IS A WHIP AND NOW IT IS A HUEG HAMMER.

Give me a better trailer that shows off in game levels and diversity in the mechanics, and I'll say good things. Until then, no.

I think what they were trying to do with the trailer was get more people interested in the series, by showing off what a lot of gamers are into lately: action. Of course the 3D titles have always been about this. The story of LOI is my favorite by far, and the tidbits of story introduced in the trailer were intriguing to me, since it seems kind of LOI'ish with the main characters love life being taken from him.

The trailer was pretty cool to me, and the pictures I've seen of the game since then are beautiful.

I pretty much agree with everything that conver has said, even though IGA isn't working on th, he is still gonna get his shot at his game with alucard (i hope) this little nich in the marketing was done to bring one of the greatest game series ever into this current generation, it needed to be done. IGA is at home in 2D that much is certain, the 3d torch needed to be lended to someone who knows how to make a damn good 3d game and i think IGA is going to take whatever he learns from Lords of Shadow and try to impliment that into his own game with the Castlevania style we all know and love

To think of a sequel to symphony of the night in the similar vein of story/atmosphere with that type of gameplay. It could well possibly be the perfect 3d castlevaina that IGA wants so much

2. the usual formula DID NOT work for 3D CV, we have proof of that.chang_1910

@Conver: I'm not negative because of who aren't working on it(well, maybe a little), but because of who are.

Next up, my issue is how they introduced the game. Castlevania games have this atmosphere, this elegant beauty in the most recent games. Order of Ecclesia was introduced with an excellent intro movie, really beautiful.

This one is introduced with a bit of art and then BOOM LOOK ACTION VIOLENCE ADVENTURE and lets ignore all of the level design and details and diversity in favor of DEUS EX MACHINA CROSS THAT IS A WHIP AND NOW IT IS A HUEG HAMMER.

Give me a better trailer that shows off in game levels and diversity in the mechanics, and I'll say good things. Until then, no.semianonymous

So here's a question: How brutal is too brutal/gory for a CV game? Some people are mentioning the GOW issue over and over. I love GOW, but personally think the extensive brutality wouldn't work with the CV atmosphere. Here's where I'm torn- take your 2D IGA game and think of some of the gory/sensationalized characters (there are PLENTY), and the combat, - it doesn't translate into anything overly brutal. In fact, many of them come off with a little satire, and some comical innocence.

Is that same form really going to work in a next gen 3D? Maybe a happy medium? As always, we're dealing with vamps (hopefully) and blood, but I do expect them to tackle this with some artistic taste.

I'm still fine with Patrick Stewart btw. :P

So here's a question: How brutal is too brutal/gory for a CV game?

Syrinx61

Blood is fine. Decapitation and dismemberment, assuming it is used properly and I suppose tastefully (Forbidden One and Belzebub are good examples, you literally tear them apart from the inside, but it worked, it wasn't over the top, and it was a great battle with all the elegance of a Castlevania).

Grabbing an enemy, stabbing it in the eye, dragging it down, ripping its head off (while splattering simply too much blood everywhere), then waving it around and proclaiming the size of your groin is by and far not ok.

I agree with why the negativity, I do not tend to be positive or negative about any game.. I just have my mind open (no offense to anyone) Lets face it the "CV formula" have not work and iga have try he can not (or have not be able to so far) make a good 3d CV. Does this mean that Kojima will? no, but is a different point of view... so lets see what happen. After all from CV1 to SotN was a HUGE jump, and a complete change in gameplay. So why not?

@Ice: I guess that all is depending of the point of view. I do not see that they have remove all CV from this. I have being a CV gamer and fan since CV1... and elements have change quite a lot. What have being kept? music and the story have grown in an amazing beautiful way. The gothic was remove in several games to be more anime type, and it came back in OoE and ps2 games. I think that this one have a beatifull art. That sense when Gabriel jump trought the glass into the castle, show amazing gothic elements. The wereworlf behind him show CV all over. The place with skeletons and zombie while he fight them is amazing. 

I`m not saying that they game would be great, and I still think that this game was just being made, end up being too similar to CV so they had to named it CV. But it could be great. 

[QUOTE="chang_1910"]2. the usual formula DID NOT work for 3D CV, we have proof of that.Icemael

the problem is that so far that do not seem to work too well. LoI was that minus the "a lot of weapon" and as good as it was and I felt in love with the story.. it just did not cut it. So a different look sometimes is not bad..

[QUOTE="semianonymous"]This one is introduced with a bit of art and then BOOM LOOK ACTION VIOLENCE ADVENTURE and lets ignore all of the level design and details and diversity in favor of DEUS EX MACHINA CROSS THAT IS A WHIP AND NOW IT IS A HUEG HAMMER. Give me a better trailer that shows off in game levels and diversity in the mechanics, and I'll say good things. Until then, no.Icemael

Sadly, the job of teh trailer is to sell. And now what is selling is not beautifull desing and gothic, the same way that "slow" dark survival horror is not selling. So they ahve to show teh action that would sell no just to CV fan (bc lets face it we would buy and try anyway) but to those that may not even care about the fact that says CV before LoS. 

I doubt that they would release a trailer like that, tgus it could happen.

Now if you go to youtube (like a clip that I posted above, which btw Cover welcome :) ) you`ll find this art. That imo has being kept beautifull. Swordmaster is just great. In the 1st trailer the church where gabriel prays is amazingly design, that claudia character looks amazing... and like that many other (that I have mention around on this thread)

@Syrinx: I`m ok with gore and some action sequence is just game play and I do not see why it would damage the series. It would be like saying that the change to SotN was bad after CV1. Now maybe this is too sudden after all we went from CV1 to Cv3 toSotN... but lets face it they industry is moving fast and CV have to move.

OoE got amazing review, but among the thing that were critize were that even thus it was different di not add much to formula. Sadly in this era they look for everygame to be innovative and if is not for the gaming in general at least for the series. 

Sadly this game would get, most likely, as part of the review a "GoW rip-off". But to be honest as long as it work I`m ok. I do agree with SEMI, I do not want the action sequence to replace everything else... mainly subweapon/magic.

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Blood is fine. Decapitation and dismemberment, assuming it is used properly and I suppose tastefully (Forbidden One and Belzebub are good examples, you literally tear them apart from the inside, but it worked, it wasn't over the top, and it was a great battle with all the elegance of a Castlevania).

Grabbing an enemy, stabbing it in the eye, dragging it down, ripping its head off (while splattering simply too much blood everywhere), then waving it around and proclaiming the size of your groin is by and far not ok.

semianonymous

Agreed! I was thinking of the same characters. The Forgotten One battle was personally the best part of the game, and it worked so well. I think if the game has the same testosterone levels as GOW, we may be in trouble though. :P

Mari- I'm optimistic too. They can find a way to keep the essence of the series, and accommodate the next-gen needs. Nothing really to lose anyway...

i think its far far too early to be giving this title the criticism its getting. We have only seen a small piece of what the game can be so i think the best option is to just sit back and see what happens. Im also fed up of people linking this game to god of war. Every action title that comes out now is described as "a rip on god of war" god of war didnt bring anything new to the table, sure it was a great game, but it was still the same formula. The action in this game reminded me alot more of LOI and and im sure enough to bet that the game is not going to be anywhere near as violent as god of war, if konami has any sense they wouldnt let it get that far. If people really dont like it that much, then you have the option to not go anywhere near it.

I am optomistic about this game, id go as far to say as its "experimental" if it doesnt work then it doesnt work, but at least they are trying to do something new in the current market

It looks like God of War because of Gabriel's weapon. He's got a whip, a fairly long-ranged weapon - just like Kratos' Blades of Chaos. Furthermore, he swings it in a very similar way to Kratos, and both characters' weapons are on fire. To top it off, some enemies look kinda like creatures out of GoW.

I do hope the game will turn out good, but my first impressions(horrible trailer + Kojima, whose games I hate + unexperienced studio) are not good at all.

So you're saying it looks like GoW because the whip is on fire? and just HOW LONG has castlevania had flaming whips? earliest I can remember was SotN, but I wasn't a big CV player before that. I'd also like to point out than at one point in the trailer the whip also gives off a freezing mist when he swings it.

and how was it a horrible trailer? unless you're talking about the one released before they added the castlevania part to the title, I disagree.

So you're saying it looks like GoW because the whip is on fire? and just HOW LONG has castlevania had flaming whips? earliest I can remember was SotN, but I wasn't a big CV player before that. I'd also like to point out than at one point in the trailer the whip also gives off a freezing mist when he swings it.D3j1k0

and how was it a horrible trailer? unless you're talking about the one released before they added the castlevania part to the title, I disagree.D3j1k0

[QUOTE="D3j1k0"]So you're saying it looks like GoW because the whip is on fire? and just HOW LONG has castlevania had flaming whips? earliest I can remember was SotN, but I wasn't a big CV player before that. I'd also like to point out than at one point in the trailer the whip also gives off a freezing mist when he swings it.Icemael

I think you forgot about the intro and richter mode...

EVERYONE: READ!!!!

we are know to be a friendly union and it has being like that for over 3 years.

everyone has a right to her/his opinion, one that we may no agree, but is her/his right. I have stated my point above as why I have a different opinion, but I think I have not insulted anyone, nor anyone`s opinion. 

We are different ppl and by that we would like different systems/games (reason why system of wars is prohibeted in this union as well, in case someone did not read the union rules) and we all have different point of view. When I saw the clip I saw GoW rip-off, but I saw others details that made me like the "reborn" CV concept. No everyone has to see the same... it has being proved in psychology same image can means one zillion different things.

I will clean this thread (edited/delete) but that now is the only time I need to do this. Once a couple of days has passed and I know taht you have read (pls include in you post something, e.g. read, understood...) I will delete this post as well.

And I`m sure that like me Gregg would have no like the direction this was taking. 

EXTRA points after reading this again (Which btw I hope this NEVER happen... those that know me from before know that I DO NOT LIKE unfriendly chats, ppl have being kick out of the union, reported, warned in the past, and I have no problm spending tme doing teh same.)

1. when you are expresing yourself, pls consider that something you do not like may be love by someone else, so be respectfull.

2. Understand that even thus you like something. that something would be dislike by many others.

3. Noone HAS to explain why the like or dislike something. e.g. most ppl like SSBB, I found it extremelly boring. Nor taht person have to be insulted for his taste. If they will like to add to a discussion about something reasons are always good, but sometimes you just do not like it, even thus you try. (believe me I try SSBB when it was one of the few online wii games)You would not add much to the discussion, but you have stated your opinion and is YOUR right.

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Enjoy...

chang - officer and one of the rotating leaders. (yea, I want to make clear that this IS IMPORTANT and one of the few thing that I DO NOT LIKE in mybeloving union)

now... on topic :P

@Dante: teh game does look a lot like GoW. Now games are having this sequence like action and I`m pretty sure that this one would have it. That was mostly implemented by GoW. Some games have it before but no with teh action involvement. Now is that bad? no. At the start of gaming we just had arcades, some day someone decided to do plataformer and zillion of this came, then RPG and so on. Now this time ask for GoW action and is something that will see. And as many game will be called GoW rip-off some have an extra that make it stand out (hopefully this one would be one of them)

@Semi: sadly I do not think we`ll see that trailer any time soon. I do think thus that it has CV elements (I do not know if you read my post above, but I explained there)

@Ice and semi: I do agree, this trailer is missing something taht others CV had. story.... even thus it gave a realy nice intro is still missing those elements that e.g. OoE presented. Even thus they show action in that trailer there was this CV sense show. On this trailer you just have to look for it in between the action. But like I said above, the atmosphere is beautiful. One taht I forgot to mention, is when he walks from one side of teh screen to the next with this town in the back. That just remind me the old CV, but with better graphics :P

and like dante said... lets wait and see...

also do not forget... if you find any news posted here and it would be added :D thx.

Please, play old school. Fire VK's have been since CV 2!.

Looking this from an old school perspective, this a lot more CV than the post SOTN games were; i think this game will try to find some kind of balance, Old-new school. The Castle for example, is great, big, and gothic, a lot new school.

BTW, isn't Trailer's music great? Is a lot more soundtrack type, similar to The Dark Knight, fantastic, epic, big, not minor chorded organ riffs, this is a great epic sentimental ST.

And I will repeat, if you don't like, keep waiting the castlevania Japan AlucardVania, sure it will come 2011; but I'm sure, that you will buy this game, not matter how much do you like it :P