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[QUOTE="swyg"][QUOTE="IceDefenseGod"][QUOTE="MASTERBLADEX"][QUOTE="IceDefenseGod"][QUOTE="swyg"]CLOUD USES OMNISLASH IN AC! Cloud also uses Omnislash Story-wise at the very end of FF7 against SephirothIceDefenseGod
Yes, ghe uses it at the end of FFVII... if you click it. I don't know who wouldn't their first time through, but if you wait for Seph to attack you, you counter, and that kills him. Also, Cloud NEVER uses Omnislash in AC. Not once. The part you're thinking of is just multiple slashes with multiple swords.
*EPIC FACEPALM*Nope, I don't know anything about FFVII. That's how I can put up a valid argument. I guarantee I know more about the actual game FFVII more than you, you just know more about the crappy movie AC , which has little important to the story of FFVII. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Cloud is a good fighter, but stands no chance against Auron. You just can't get it through your head, Cloud as a char. is just emotionally unstable unless he's fighting Seph., who Auron is not.
Read the bold print. You're contradicting yourself left and right buddy, stop doing it and type cleaner.
Aside of that, AC completes Cloud's end of the story when he realizes he's not alone anymore in the FF7 compilation so it is very important. You wouldn't want it to be though because it hurts your side of the argument. If you're going to argue against something, it is best you know both sides of the argument before saying anything. You will be more prepared.
Me being a member of the Department of Redundancy Department has nothing to do with the fact that Auron is a better fighter than Cloud.
What the? Stop blowing off what I type dude, this has happened several times already. You only responded to the first two sentences and didn't even look at the most important paragraph right below. There are so many paragraphs of deep information I'm betting you didn't even look at.
I've said some of them at least twice, but here it goes again *plays that song temporarily* Mr. Cloud-looks-cooler-and-is-therefor-a-better-fighter. I'll even put pros and cons at the end of the statement to help with your little thought process:
1. Auron is much more intelligent (which WOULD help in a fight). +
2. Auron is more experienced, and is therefor a better fighter. +
3. Cloud is faster. +++ (Which obviously means Auron's slower. ---)
4. Cloud has Omnislash. +
5. Cloud has constantly proven that he's emotionally unstable except for when he's battling Seph. -
6. Cloud can only cast a fraction of the spells that Auron can, and needs Materia to do so, which physically weaken him. -
7. Auron already made the mistakes of his lifetime in his actual life, and now has very few flaws of his character. +++
8. Since I know that you'll ask for examples of #7, here you are: Can you tell me a time other than the Spherimorph visit when Auron did something because he wanted it for himself? And even then, it was also to show Tidus about Jecht.
Auron no longer allows his emotions to get in the way of his mind. He used to, (ex. how he died) but he overcame them.
Auron knows how to act, what to say, when to say it, and why he says it to the different races of Spira since he's met them all (goes along with more experience).
This has little to do with a battle, but the topic of emotions was brought up.9. Auron has Dragon Fang, and Tornado, but more importantly, Banishing Blade. ++++++++ (even though his physical attacks are just as powerful as Limit's)
10. Auron uses his strength defensively and with strategy (++), while Cloud uses his to hack away at his enemies (-) (which in his defense, generally works).
I'll continue with the list next time you post since you'll find more bias than any reasonable person could even make up.
IceDefenseGod
1. Auron is probably more intelligent, but saying he is MUCH more intelligent is not giving credit where credit is due. Cloud never does anything stupid, he keeps to himself most of the time so he's probably a critical thinker. He is always focused and never distracted, he may get annoyed if he gets taunted but that's is as far as it goes. Cloud is injected with Jenova cells which enhances everything in him, don't forget that.
2.Auron is older, but to say he is more experienced is quite a stretch. Why? Cloud was in Shinra's army, so he was constantly training. Auron was never in a combat unit, he was only a guardian with more freedom. Plus Cloud has been in far more battles than Auron story-wise, just look at the compilations of FF7: FF7, Crisis Core, DoC, and AC all show how much Cloud has been through. Since we don't know what happened in between Auron's death and his current dead state, we can only rely on Young Auron's job as a guardian for Braska and his battles with the other party members.
5.He wasn't emotional when fighting Kadaj, Loz and Yazu. He wasn't emotional in Doc, he wasn't emotional with pretty much all of the battles in FF7 except Aeris's death. The only other time he was emotional was when he first confronted Sephiroth in the reactor, which is ironically what contradicts what you said about Cloud never getting emotional when fighting Sephiroth. I believe you're confusing emotions with being serious most of the time. He's a serious dude 24/7, that doesn't mean he is emotional; so what if he doesn't smile or open to people socially.
6.Auron has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER casted a spell storyline-wise. The materia doesn't weaken Cloud, it only strengthens him in his abilities. You're going back to gameplay again.
9. Again, Auron has never used those moves outside of gameplay, therefore invalid.
10.Auron hasn't done a thing my friend except hack away fallen trees in one slice and glide down some ropes to save Yuna (of course Cloud on the other hand has sliced through building debris and a motorcyle). Cloud uses strategy pretty much everytime he fights, not just strength. Here's an example: Right before Cloud used Omnislash V5 on Sephiroth, he swung at him at the perfect angle to make Seph jump in the air SO he could use Omnislash V5.
He typed his own in depth paragraphs about why Auro nwould win and got blown off by everyone. Seems like it would give him the right to do the same back to them. It's only fair.fs_metal
I've responded to many of his paragraphs and some of them weren't even directed at me.
[QUOTE="MASTERBLADEX"]i believe swyg explained it enough.swyg
It seems to be falling on deaf ears, or in this case blind eyes too. You're welcome btw.
yes,especaily with fs and ice i tell them to read ultimanias and such but they refuse to do so.Please Log In to post.
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