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#52 eztarg8
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This thread is going nowhere but backwards
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#53 fs_metal
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Einstien was self taught. So are you saying he's an idiot just because he didn't do good in school?eztarg8
Einstien was not a fighter, so that arguement is invalid in the first place. It's like saying "Ice cream is a food. It tastes good. Logically, pizza must taste good too, because it is also a food."
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#54 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="liquid_s"]What was the question again? Anyway, I havent played Twilight Princess, but I am good damn sure a 5 minute training in Wind Waker does not make Link the worlds greatest swordsman! But no apparantely it does, guess we can also be swords man if we suit up, and go 'YRUK!' with every thrust. The fact is Devil May Cry is a teenage game, meant for the older gamers. If KH decided to put forms in it would get a bit more...complicated I guess, for younger gamers. KH is a fun game for young and older gamers, whilst DMC is a game that real tactics are needed, which are fun, but are not best suited for younger gamers. I am not saying KH doesnt hold some tactics to some battles, which consists of more than button mashing, jump slash, or having high health, attack and defence. The Sephiroth battle holds a strategy (in Kh1) to it, which can take anything up to two hours depending on how much damage you can do. Other secret battles like Phantom, Kurt Zisa and Ice Titan. They all require tactics.

In Twilight Princess, Link had someone teaching him to sword fight since long before the events of the game begin.

You don't need to make the fighting more complicated to give Sora form and technique. You could have him fight like a master swordsman with the press of a single button. IT would just be like playing DMC on easy automatic or something.
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#55 blademasterx
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Well that training never really help if he can never finish off ganon i mean how many zelda's he was in already.Sora on the other hand kills his opponents you never see ansem again cause sora killed him.
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#56 blademasterx
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] GOD WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS LET IT GO! And metal y do you hate kh so much? it's not a bad game.

  I can't let go cause fs metal can't see the fact that link sucks
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#57 fs_metal
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Well that training never really help if he can never finish off ganon i mean how many zelda's he was in already.Sora on the other hand kills his opponents you never see ansem again cause sora killed him.blademasterx
Running under theory, Gannon could be some type of immortal. YHou can get rid of him temporarily, but never permanently. Considering the horrible things he causes when he comes back, it is worth it to get rid of him, atleast for a little while, so the training is a huge help
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#58 fs_metal
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] GOD WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS LET IT GO! And metal y do you hate kh so much? it's not a bad game.blademasterx
I can't let go cause fs metal can't see the fact that link sucks

I could say the exact same thing about Sora

None the less, I tried to leave Link out of this conversation, as requested. You are the one with the problem here.
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#59 liquid_s
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[QUOTE="eztarg8"]Einstien was self taught. So are you saying he's an idiot just because he didn't do good in school?fs_metal
Einstien was not a fighter, so that arguement is invalid in the first place. It's like saying "Ice cream is a food. It tastes good. Logically, pizza must taste good too, because it is also a food."

But that also means, logically, that if a Final Fantasy fan, say you, were an idiot, then logically that means, all Final Fantasy fans are idiots.
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#60 blademasterx
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[QUOTE="blademasterx"]Well that training never really help if he can never finish off ganon i mean how many zelda's he was in already.Sora on the other hand kills his opponents you never see ansem again cause sora killed him.fs_metal
Running under theory, Gannon could be some type of immortal. YHou can get rid of him temporarily, but never permanently. Considering the horrible things he causes when he comes back, it is worth it to get rid of him, atleast for a little while, so the training is a huge help

What horrible things ganon did?Besides come back from crappy game world and darken the sky of hyrule and turn pigs into evil pigs.
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#61 eztarg8
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="eztarg8"]Einstien was self taught. So are you saying he's an idiot just because he didn't do good in school?liquid_s
Einstien was not a fighter, so that arguement is invalid in the first place. It's like saying "Ice cream is a food. It tastes good. Logically, pizza must taste good too, because it is also a food."

But that also means, logically, that if a Final Fantasy fan, say you, were an idiot, then logically that means, all Final Fantasy fans are idiots.

LMAO Sure, why not :P P.S. It would not be since they both are food they both taste good. It's if they are both food, they are both eatable. Also if everyone was taught by a teacher, then how would a new style of martial arts be created?
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If FF7 seph = KH2 seph than the battle in KH2 would have been a hell of a lot harder than KH1, then realisiticaly a 14 year old with a big key would never beat him then. Metal is right, the charecters is written as if they never existed as he said in a previous post.

BUT if It was really true FF7 seph = KH2 seph than that would just be plain old sad that a 14 year old kid again with a big key beating him, a guy who almost destroyed the world with a big metoer, and killed so many people. It would never make any sence so it again shows that metal is right from his previous post, the charecters are written as if they never existed.

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#63 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="blademasterx"]Well that training never really help if he can never finish off ganon i mean how many zelda's he was in already.Sora on the other hand kills his opponents you never see ansem again cause sora killed him.blademasterx
Running under theory, Gannon could be some type of immortal. YHou can get rid of him temporarily, but never permanently. Considering the horrible things he causes when he comes back, it is worth it to get rid of him, atleast for a little while, so the training is a huge help

What horrible things ganon did?Besides come back from crappy game world and darken the sky of hyrule and turn pigs into evil pigs.

Can you come back when you learn to argue in a non flamatory way?
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#64 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="eztarg8"]Einstien was self taught. So are you saying he's an idiot just because he didn't do good in school?liquid_s
Einstien was not a fighter, so that arguement is invalid in the first place. It's like saying "Ice cream is a food. It tastes good. Logically, pizza must taste good too, because it is also a food."

But that also means, logically, that if a Final Fantasy fan, say you, were an idiot, then logically that means, all Final Fantasy fans are idiots.

If all FF fans were idiots, it would make you no difference.
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#65 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="liquid_s"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="eztarg8"]Einstien was self taught. So are you saying he's an idiot just because he didn't do good in school?eztarg8
Einstien was not a fighter, so that arguement is invalid in the first place. It's like saying "Ice cream is a food. It tastes good. Logically, pizza must taste good too, because it is also a food."

But that also means, logically, that if a Final Fantasy fan, say you, were an idiot, then logically that means, all Final Fantasy fans are idiots.

LMAO Sure, why not :P P.S. It would not be since they both are food they both taste good. It's if they are both food, they are both eatable. Also if everyone was taught by a teacher, then how would a new style of martial arts be created?

Being food does not automatically mean that something will taste good. That was my point. The fact that you like the taste of both examples that I used is irrelevant.
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#66 eztarg8
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Who said I like the taste of both? I tend not to like icecream. I said that both are EATABLE bcus they are both foods. I'm giving up on you man. We're not even argueing about KH anymore. I feel you just like to argue.
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#67 fs_metal
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You clearly stated here:

It would not be since they both are food they both taste good.

that both taste good.

I was pointing out that just because something is a food, it does not automatically make it taste good.
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#68 eztarg8
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You clearly stated here:

It would not be since they both are food they both taste good.

that both taste good.

I was pointing out that just because something is a food, it does not automatically make it taste good.
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I KNOW THATS WHAT I SAID! Just bcus they are both food and one is good does NOT make the other good also. If the they are both food and one is EATABLE they both are eatable and that's a fact. And my Einstien comparison does make sence. You aren't able to do math equations with numbers past the tenth degree overnight. Also you didn't answer me how the masters could have created new martial arts iff they were all taught by teach. "chicken and the egg" They had to come up with them on there own and does that mean that there new style is instantly worse just because he wasn't taught by someone? It's results that really matter. Aikido looks like nothing is happening and rather timid, yet still lets you take down even the biggest of foes.
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#69 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]You clearly stated here:

It would not be since they both are food they both taste good.

that both taste good.

I was pointing out that just because something is a food, it does not automatically make it taste good.
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I KNOW THATS WHAT I SAID! Just bcus they are both food and one is good does NOT make the other good also. If the they are both food and one is EATABLE they both are eatable and that's a fact. And my Einstien comparison does make sence. You aren't able to do math equations with numbers past the tenth degree overnight. Also you didn't answer me how the masters could have created new martial arts iff they were all taught by teach. "chicken and the egg" They had to come up with them on there own and does that mean that there new style is instantly worse just because he wasn't taught by someone? It's results that really matter. Aikido looks like nothing is happening and rather timid, yet still lets you take down even the biggest of foes.

I already explained why your Einstien comparison is a bad one. I will not explain it again

You said both taste good. You did not say they are both eatable. Just because something is eatable and a food (hell, something does not have to be a food to be eatable. Eatable means you can chew and swallow it) does not mean it tastes good. You were implying that it does, that that is illogical.

All styles had to start somewhere, but no style starts by randomly swinging a weapon, which is where Sora's biggest problem lies. That is exactly what he does. If you want style, you must have control. Sora oes not have control. He just swings as fast as he can.
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All styles had to start somewhere, but no style starts by randomly swinging a weapon, which is where Sora's biggest problem lies. That is exactly what he does. If you want style, you must have control. Sora oes not have control. He just swings as fast as he can.

Sora swings his keyblade with speed and precision unlike link when was a spinning sword technique ever part of a style fs metal.And since all styles started somewhere where was link crappy technique in oot nobody taught link how to fight he just grab a blade and just started swinging.So what makes link so better then sora then they learn how to fight the sameway.

 The difference in soras fighting technique is that he completely beats link in terms of speed and style.All link has is a crappy master sword that can only seal ganon up untill another zelda comes out.
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#71 blademasterx
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]You clearly stated here:

It would not be since they both are food they both taste good.

that both taste good.

I was pointing out that just because something is a food, it does not automatically make it taste good.
eztarg8
I KNOW THATS WHAT I SAID! Just bcus they are both food and one is good does NOT make the other good also. If the they are both food and one is EATABLE they both are eatable and that's a fact. And my Einstien comparison does make sence. You aren't able to do math equations with numbers past the tenth degree overnight. Also you didn't answer me how the masters could have created new martial arts iff they were all taught by teach. "chicken and the egg" They had to come up with them on there own and does that mean that there new style is instantly worse just because he wasn't taught by someone? It's results that really matter. Aikido looks like nothing is happening and rather timid, yet still lets you take down even the biggest of foes.

And i agree masters did have to make up there own fighting styles maybe sora is just creating a new way of swordplay.Did you ever think of that fs metal?no because your zelda fanboyism always come first.
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#72 fs_metal
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I am not even going to take into consideration any arguements from you. You cannot drop the Link thing. You cannot debate without being flamatory. All your arguements basically ammount to "I am right because I say I am, and if you disagree with me, you are wrong." You have the debating skills of a middle schooler. You are the type of person that would get kicked off of a debate team for saying "Yeah, well F*ck you!"
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#73 blademasterx
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I am not even going to take into consideration any arguements from you. You cannot drop the Link thing. You cannot debate without being flamatory. All your arguements basically ammount to "I am right because I say I am, and if you disagree with me, you are wrong." You have the debating skills of a middle schooler. You are the type of person that would get kicked off of a debate team for saying "Yeah, well F*ck you!"
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wtf?
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#74 liquid_s
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This topic has got out of hand, and due to act 2.14 of the officers hand book (>.>
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#75 fs_metal
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Somehow I knew you wouldn't get it.
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#76 liquid_s
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Somehow I knew you wouldn't get it.fs_metal
I get what your trying to say, it is relativism though, we both agree on our own opinions, neither of them being truly right, so we are both in the right side of thinking. It is when we disagree that it comes to a clash. I think that Sora can weild his blade well because I know it is a game, which it is, and I know that it is fantasy, which it is. You think he sucks due to havin g no forms or anything, and agree Link is a better swordsman. I am not saying your wrong, just argung my opinion, in a bad way. Sorry, fs, if i seemed otherwise.
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#77 fs_metal
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That comment wasn't directed at you, man