Digging Too Deep (Possible Spoilers)

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#1 Happy_Cloud
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Alright, I know it's fun and interesting to speculate about the time-line and your own theories, but don't you think people are digging a little too deep?

It's getting to the stage where people are getting upset that there was no great flood at the end of Twilight Princess, instead of enjoying the existing ending for what it is.

On another board, people even speculated Nintendo didn't tie up loose ends with TP because people were getting so close to figuring the time-line out.

I don't want to seem negative, or to spoil anyone's fun, but I think there's really no definitive answer to any of these time-line questions. I think people need to just enjoy each game for what it is, without having to relate them all to each other.
 
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#2 glennwinton
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I think there are 2 timelines, after OoT, the timeline splits and there are 2 timelines, I think TP doesn't have anything to with WW, as they are in different timelines.

this would answer why  there was no flood in TP.
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#3 waZelda
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I think the fact that it is a time-line (which it is, no doubt) is really cool. It is like a book where you get chapters, but not cronologic, and some chapters are left out. Speculating in this is fun. Nintendo had admitted that there is a time-line and almost admitted that there is a split time-line. I think they are done with the first part of the timeline and might in the future split the other timeline too, just for the posibility of making more stories. The last Zelda title will come far, far into the future, mark my words.
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#4 SkateGame
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I think that some stuff that a timeline would create is kind of cool, but I honestly don't care. Whatever Nintendo does with the series is fine with me.
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#5 Happy_Cloud
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The last Zelda title will come far, far into the future, mark my words.waZelda


Sci-fi Zelda FTW!
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[QUOTE="waZelda"]The last Zelda title will come far, far into the future, mark my words.Happy_Cloud


Sci-fi Zelda FTW!

I was actually thinking of the when I was playing TP how far would link go into the future then I started thing Hoverbikes and master lightsabers......... it wasnt a good thing...
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#8 Calpalg
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yeah, i think people get a little too... intense with a storyline that, to a certain extent i think, Nintendo made up as they went along. You get people trying to explain why Lake Hylia moved, and why there are two Lost Woods... when really there is no real explanation in the game world itsself. it just happened.
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I think fan theories, future ideas, and other stuff are fine and all but i just leave it up to Zelda's storyboard staff.
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#10 radicalplace
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yeah, i think people get a little too... intense with a storyline that, to a certain extent i think, Nintendo made up as they went along. You get people trying to explain why Lake Hylia moved, and why there are two Lost Woods... when really there is no real explanation in the game world itsself. it just happened.Calpalg


Well i have an easy theory for that. Each game is set hundreads of years apart. Theres Erosion, climate changes. And evil can leave Scars so i think that it just evolves ova the years.
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#11 zeldafreak4life
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[QUOTE="Calpalg"]yeah, i think people get a little too... intense with a storyline that, to a certain extent i think, Nintendo made up as they went along. You get people trying to explain why Lake Hylia moved, and why there are two Lost Woods... when really there is no real explanation in the game world itsself. it just happened.radicalplace


Well i have an easy theory for that. Each game is set hundreads of years apart. Theres Erosion, climate changes. And evil can leave Scars so i think that it just evolves ova the years.

Actually i kinda thought that as well.......
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#12 Calpalg
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[QUOTE="radicalplace"][QUOTE="Calpalg"]yeah, i think people get a little too... intense with a storyline that, to a certain extent i think, Nintendo made up as they went along. You get people trying to explain why Lake Hylia moved, and why there are two Lost Woods... when really there is no real explanation in the game world itsself. it just happened.zeldafreak4life


Well i have an easy theory for that. Each game is set hundreads of years apart. Theres Erosion, climate changes. And evil can leave Scars so i think that it just evolves ova the years.

Actually i kinda thought that as well.......

well this is what i mean. we're trying to apply normal scientific theory to a world that just doesn't really use it. it was created by gods, houses strange fish people and talking shrubs, and we are trying to make sense of it? nah, doesn't scan. plus, no amount of erosion would change the landscape so areas are rotated 90 degrees from their positions in other games, but that's besides the point.
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Alright, I know it's fun and interesting to speculate about the time-line and your own theories, but don't you think people are digging a little too deep?

It's getting to the stage where people are getting upset that there was no great flood at the end of Twilight Princess, instead of enjoying the existing ending for what it is.

On another board, people even speculated Nintendo didn't tie up loose ends with TP because people were getting so close to figuring the time-line out.

I don't want to seem negative, or to spoil anyone's fun, but I think there's really no definitive answer to any of these time-line questions. I think people need to just enjoy each game for what it is, without having to relate them all to each other.
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Overall I agree with what you are saying. Each Zelda should be looked at on it's own merits, it's own storyline. And enjoyed that way. The majority of games in the series may not even be connected at all for all we know. It is fun to speculate, I do it all the time, but all in all I don't think it matters that there was no great flood at the end of the game or anything else. I enjoyed the ending for what it was. Even if I was a bit disapointed he didn't hook up with Midna :P
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#14 kirby2198
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maybe nintendo dose not want link to have a relationship... no mater how many girls that are in the game. no mater how many girls are crushing on him...  in every game...
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When trying to create a time line theory for the series, its often not wise to go by the landscape. That aspect is much more liable to change with every game due to the impact on game play and the use of a similar landscape would become mundane. Nintendo even mirrored the entire landscape of the Wii version of Twilight Princess so that Link would be right handed.
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#16 killerfist
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I don't believe in timeline theories.
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That was a glorious post killer, kudos to you. Someone give this man an award.
When trying to create a time line theory for the series, its often not wise to go by the landscape. That aspect is much more liable to change with every game due to the impact on game play and the use of a similar landscape would become mundane. Nintendo even mirrored the entire landscape of the Wii version of Twilight Princess so that Link would be right handed.Gary_Jinfield
I agree, if anything is not actually going to make sense in a continuity theory it's the landscape. Sure there will be some aspects that would need to eventually be explained such as the flood, but for the most part the landscape changes are going to be left unresolved. They were altered for gameplay, with story pushed aside.
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#18 Carlitonsp
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LOZ is a weird Time-Line, they have that whole Reincarnation storyline, which is GREAT if your trying to extend the story as much as possible, which they did, but I think they're leaving the flood for a game with better technology. (TP was designed for the GC)
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#19 nintendo-4life
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because having no official story, while someimtes makes the story more enteresting, it also makes the series a bit pointless if, in the end, there IS no official, that's why you get so many speculation. but the thing that really made me think was [spoiler] ganondorfs death, how can he die twice? [/spoiler] well that's my two cents.
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#20 Carlitonsp
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[spoiler] In Wind Waker, they said that the way they do it is that the story is all around reincarnation, meaning that Wind Waker was WAAAY after ocarina of Time [/spoiler] Although, now you have to wonder, when did the castle at the sacred grove become Delapidated?
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#21 masterlinkx1
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 people should express there creativaty and think up there own thiery.
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#22 killerfist
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That was a glorious post killer, kudos to you. Someone give this man an award. metroid_dragon

thanks but I didn't mean it that way. I believe there is some timeline in the zelda universe(like the triforce thing in Oot and Tp) but why are games like majora's mask and windwaker so different and not connected to another? Ok, Majoras mask is connected to ocarina of time bad example. I think there is a timeline for some games but not for all of them and every game is a game for itself with a story for itself.   To tell you the truth:..I don't really know:P

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#23 lordsettra12
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Anyone even trying to dig deep into a Zelda story is dumb. Zelda games have no story.
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*smh*Nerds.:| /ironic statement
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#25 metroid_dragon
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[QUOTE="metroid_dragon"]That was a glorious post killer, kudos to you. Someone give this man an award. killerfist

thanks but I didn't mean it that way. I believe there is some timeline in the zelda universe(like the triforce thing in Oot and Tp) but why are games like majora's mask and windwaker so different and not connected to another? Ok, Majoras mask is connected to ocarina of time bad example. I think there is a timeline for some games but not for all of them and every game is a game for itself with a story for itself. To tell you the truth:..I don't really know:P

That's a much better post. And for the most part, I agree with you. Some games in the series are connected, while others are simply not. I wish Nintendo would just admit they are not connected already, trying to string the Zelda games together would be like Square trying to string every Final Fantasy together.
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#26 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]

[QUOTE="metroid_dragon"]That was a glorious post killer, kudos to you. Someone give this man an award. metroid_dragon

thanks but I didn't mean it that way. I believe there is some timeline in the zelda universe(like the triforce thing in Oot and Tp) but why are games like majora's mask and windwaker so different and not connected to another? Ok, Majoras mask is connected to ocarina of time bad example. I think there is a timeline for some games but not for all of them and every game is a game for itself with a story for itself. To tell you the truth:..I don't really know:P

That's a much better post. And for the most part, I agree with you. Some games in the series are connected, while others are simply not. I wish Nintendo would just admit they are not connected already, trying to string the Zelda games together would be like Square trying to string every Final Fantasy together.

it can be done but it takes a hell of a game(or 2games) do do it.
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#27 Toribor
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[QUOTE="metroid_dragon"][QUOTE="killerfist"]

[QUOTE="metroid_dragon"]That was a glorious post killer, kudos to you. Someone give this man an award. killerfist

thanks but I didn't mean it that way. I believe there is some timeline in the zelda universe(like the triforce thing in Oot and Tp) but why are games like majora's mask and windwaker so different and not connected to another? Ok, Majoras mask is connected to ocarina of time bad example. I think there is a timeline for some games but not for all of them and every game is a game for itself with a story for itself. To tell you the truth:..I don't really know:P

That's a much better post. And for the most part, I agree with you. Some games in the series are connected, while others are simply not. I wish Nintendo would just admit they are not connected already, trying to string the Zelda games together would be like Square trying to string every Final Fantasy together.

it can be done but it takes a hell of a game(or 2games) do do it.

I think a very loose timeline is fine, but I'm just as happy to enjoy each Zelda as a separate piece rather than trying to imagine vastly complicated plots. (Although it would be great to have a game that isn't just old enemies being resurrected and destroyed right before they rise to power again)
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#28 Happy_Cloud
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My point is that people are caring too much about the details which shouldn't be so significant. Each game was designed to be enjoyed on its own, and when it gets to the point where it bothers players that the Temple of Time is in the Lost Woods, then that is negatively effecting their enjoyment.
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