[QUOTE="Gary_Jinfield"]I think many of you will find this video rather entertaining.:P
We need more stuff like that. nuck44
I found that somewhat sad. It's one thing to disagree with Jeff, but it's another thing to make fun of him.
I agree with that assessmeant. I just found it a funny ironic video but.... Disagree with the man, don't attempt to degrade him.
It think it was meant to be GameSpot as a whole, at least thats the way I see it. Its like with a political party the leader is often the source of ridicule when there are disagreemeants, even if it is the entire party to blame. Besides, the video dealt only with the decision in question, (the rating of Twilight Princess) its a more creative form of disagreemeant. Whats funny is that the video came out to be somewhat true. There is so much hate for GameSpot now, its practically been denounced by the entire online community. Defeated by a wii remote wielding hero in green.:P
GameSpot has had quite a few questionable reviews over the past, Twilight Princess was simply the straw that broke the camel's back.
Yea I Agree with Gary but WTF I mean the WII GS page has 360 all over it.......CoolSkAGuy
LOL Supposedly so does/did the PS3 Page :P I found an interesting response to the GS review here "Hey, it's Sean from The Retrospective, and I want to make a few observations about what was said in the Select and Start News Report. As big a Zelda fan as I am, this is not a fanboy rant, no, even worse, this is a rant on writing professionalism. "It's the same damn game we've all been playing for the last 15-odd years. Hey, guess what? You get to go into dungeons...and find items...and put together pieces of heart to make new heart containers. I haven't gotten very far into it, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Triforce is in the mix at some point. There's a difference between tradition and ossification, and Nintendo's been content to let this series stay the same for too damn long. What's more, in a lot of ways it's actually getting to be pretty annoying." This response is hypocritical **** Really that's all it is. I'm not going to moan about the actual score that Gamespot gave Twilight Princess, but their reasoning for it absolutely stinks. It's flawed, it's supremely obvious that all this has been down to two things. Either it was a low attempt for attention and hits, or they made a really poor choice in selecting the reviewer for the game (the reviewer is well documented for being, shall we say, more in favour of the Xbox than anything else). I have noticed a pattern with professional game reviewers. So often they moan about wanting original game experiences, they want to play something like Katamari or Animal Crossing everyday. That's the impression they often give you, yet then you see games like, hm, Gears of War, Halo, maybe the latest Final Fantasy (for arguments sake, let's take X, as XII was quite different). All of those games got around 9.5 on Gamespot. But, now I ask you, what is so new about these games? Nothing, Halo plays pretty much the same as Quake did over 10 years ago, Gears of War was RE4 in a previous life and FFX... do I need to even go into that? It is hypocritical to criticise a game for being unoriginal when you prize unoriginality in other games. The only legit criticisms I accept from that review were about the lack of orchestral music, and voice acting, but frankly I couldn't care about either, and I don't care if Twilight Princess follows the same basic structure as it's predecessors, because most people tell me that besides that, the game is actually quite different from its predecessors. My stance on review scores is that, generally, I don't care about them. But I do care when I see blatant hypocracy, as well as attention grabbing like that, because frankly it shows a lack of profesionalism, people who do these things don't deserve to get paid for what they do. I actually would like you to put this in the next report, but failing that I could simply put this rant in my column, either way, I feel this view of things ought to be known, because once you look past the games to the writing and the viewpoints, things can come to light, since behind all pieces of writing (including mine, including even this email) there's an agenda."
Not to beat a dead horse to death or whatever ... but guess who gave GTA:SA a 9.6? I'm sure that didn't at all copy the other GTA's.... "Yet while the basics of the gameplay--taking on and completing missions--are similar to past GTA games, there are plenty of details to uncover, and plenty of new things to try." "Like the previous games in the series, San Andreas features a fairly linear story that takes you through the game's areas." "As in the previous games, most of your progress is accomplished by completing missions for a variety of individuals." "Some of the missions that have been with the series for years reappear here." Sounds like a brand new original game that deserves a 9.6 :P .... I so hope I don't get banned :cry:
[QUOTE="nuck44"]Not to beat a dead horse to death or whatever ... but guess who gave GTA:SA a 9.6? I'm sure that didn't at all copy the other GTA's.... "Yet while the basics of the gameplay--taking on and completing missions--are similar to past GTA games, there are plenty of details to uncover, and plenty of new things to try." "Like the previous games in the series, San Andreas features a fairly linear story that takes you through the game's areas." "As in the previous games, most of your progress is accomplished by completing missions for a variety of individuals." "Some of the missions that have been with the series for years reappear here." Sounds like a brand new original game that deserves a 9.6 :P .... I so hope I don't get banned :cry: Doubt it but still that's a good point. Most all the GTA games seem the same to me, I despise them and a 9.6 rating is far too high and it's not only GS's score that is way too high. It's pretty much every other reviewing site, I don't understand all the hype around it that makes it so worthy of the scores it recieves.
ok, gears of war is not a generic FPS its a 3rd person shooter that deserves the score it got, also i this that okami and Loz:TP are about as good as each other, most of what you said are valid points though, I think they are being to hard on some games and being a little to picky. LoZ:TP should get a 9.2 in my opinion, not 8.8 or 8.9.
[QUOTE="Full_Metal1923"][QUOTE="nuck44"]Not to beat a dead horse to death or whatever ... but guess who gave GTA:SA a 9.6? I'm sure that didn't at all copy the other GTA's.... "Yet while the basics of the gameplay--taking on and completing missions--are similar to past GTA games, there are plenty of details to uncover, and plenty of new things to try." "Like the previous games in the series, San Andreas features a fairly linear story that takes you through the game's areas." "As in the previous games, most of your progress is accomplished by completing missions for a variety of individuals." "Some of the missions that have been with the series for years reappear here." Sounds like a brand new original game that deserves a 9.6 :P .... I so hope I don't get banned :cry: Doubt it but still that's a good point. Most all the GTA games seem the same to me, I despise them and a 9.6 rating is far too high and it's not only GS's score that is way too high. It's pretty much every other reviewing site, I don't understand all the hype around it that makes it so worthy of the scores it recieves. Well, I mean you can kill hookers and take their money .... :| ... I like the GTA concept of the openness but hate the amount of crime and indecency it encompasses.
If all you guys hate it so much then make sure you vote for it as GOTY. After that we'll all go down to San Fran and boycott GS for that review. jk. Power to the People!!!
I agree that the review was slightly harsh, and by slightly, I mean SLIGHTLY, I thought it deserved a 9.0 maybe 9.1 at the highest. The game is great, no doubts there, but Jeff makes pretty solid points about TP, the sound and everything that he criticizes. And don't forget, Jeff is not biased, he is the same guy that reviewed Wind Waker and he gave Wind Waker a 9.3. I think that he honestly thought that this game is very similar to Ocarina of Time, which it is, and Nintendo is a good enough company to reinvent something and make it great. I think the review is fine.
I agree that the review was slightly harsh, and by slightly, I mean SLIGHTLY, I thought it deserved a 9.0 maybe 9.1 at the highest. The game is great, no doubts there, but Jeff makes pretty solid points about TP, the sound and everything that he criticizes. And don't forget, Jeff is not biased, he is the same guy that reviewed Wind Waker and he gave Wind Waker a 9.3. I think that he honestly thought that this game is very similar to Ocarina of Time, which it is, and Nintendo is a good enough company to reinvent something and make it great. I think the review is fine.fatmexican19
Solid points? He critisized the gameplay to being too similiar to past games, yet look at the ratings the GTA has been getting and they haven't done a damn thing besides adding in new vehicles. He both praises the graphics and says they are too much like Ocarina. Well we've already done cell shading, and the graphic style in TP has been changed slightly from Ocarina. What other differences does he want? The game deserves at least a 9.5.
Gameplay: 10 Graphics: 9 Sound: 8 (wiimote sounds are a little tacky, but you can turn them off if you want) Value: 9 Tilt: 10
[QUOTE="Proobie44"][QUOTE="govindh3"]Dude seriously, this is the same guy who gave Tony Hawk's Proskater 3 a perfect 10! WTF!?!?glennwinton
Dude you know what's more messed uo?!?!? He gave loz:oot a 10 WTF? I hope thats sarcasm it is. he obviously has a good reason to give tp a 8.8. Maybe cause it's on the WII.
[QUOTE="nuck44"]So I'm confused guys.... Gamespot says "Given that the Wii is running discs on a greater storage capacity than Nintendo games have had in the past, and advances in standards for video game music, it's disappointing that the series hasn't finally moved to full digital recordings. After all, these songs are worthy of an orchestra." But I was sure some of the songs were orchestrated and according to the Wiire: "The music presented in the game's first few hours is already worthy of The Wiire's audio award. While only a song or two was actually orchestrated and/or used a live choir, the soundtrack was entirely fitting for each area or scenario, particularly adding to the drama of the first few cutscenes, which are presented with a level of cinematic quality not only above and beyond any Zelda game to date, but arguably rivaling the emotional impact one might find in a series like Metal Gear Solid." and GamingEvolution "At long last, Twilight Princess will be the first Zelda game to feature fully orchestrated music. While some tunes will remain MIDI, orchestral music will be used for the games “special” moments." I also remember reading this on major sites like IGN and probably Gamespot. I love how the reviewer knows less about a game than the fans of the game at times... I AGree with nuck on this one 8.8.Are they trying to make us mad, it should atleast got a 9.2
Dudes, don't even read the "OFFISHAL GAMESPOT REVEIWS", they hardly carry merit with true gamers. I only use the site to read user reviews and get the gist of what other places say. The writers at Gamespot often bludgeon a game for being old school and give Ridge Racer awesome reviews for having the "classic feel". Tiring hypocrites.
they gave super monkey ball an 9+ now.. that has is disappointing... expectations where to high for zelda, but really.. who expects something great to come out of the same type of graphics engine as the gamecube :\, oh well
[QUOTE="meepers9"]they gave super monkey ball an 9+ now.. that has is disappointing... expectations where to high for zelda, but really.. who expects something great to come out of the same type of graphics engine as the gamecube :\, oh well well, ignoring the fact that the Wii isn't much more powerful than the GC so the graphics engine hardly matters, I would like to ask you why it got low ratings on other area's then? kay' whatever, give it a 7 or an 8 on graphics (personally I think it's a 9), but gameplay, value, tilt, all 10's. Sound maybe an 8.
Well You Got To Think What Games These Guys Like To Play, That Are Writing These Reviews And Playing These Games. The People At FilePlanet/GameSpy Are Total Half-Life Freaks ""Valve FanBoys"". All There Kudos Go To Games From The CS:S, Half-Life Veriety. These Guys Here. I Have Not Been With GameSpot Long Enough To Know What Their Main Gaming Pleasure Is. So I Basicly Give A Game A Score To What I Like And Dislike About It. I Generaly Dont Listen To Others As I Like What I Like. So If You Think It's 10/10 Then Hey, It Is. I Basicly Think TLOZ:TP Is Obout A 8.9 So Far. No Game Is Perfect. But Hey I Have Not Finished It Yet, So It Has Room For Improvment On The Score.
I 2 am very dissapointed in gaespot with this review but then again they get alot of reviews wrong but a zelda game well thats just impossible but sum how they did it...:evil:
I actually think that's a good review, but don't think i'm argreeing with jeff if I rated those other games they would be alot lower. AND THE GAMECUBE REVIEW THAT SHOULD BE ALOT HIGHER.
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