*OT* Kratos (GoW series) v/s Starkiller (SW:FU/SC4)

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#1 Dusty114
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Kratos - The Ghost of Sparta who was able to do the impossible and kill a god and become the next God of War, along with being the one to almost kill Zues.

Starkiller - Probably one of the most powerful force-users in the Star Wars universe and was personally trained by Darth Vader and who is the son of a Jedi.

Who do you think would win in a fight?

TITLE EDIT (shorter plus notation of it being OT) by MrStarkiller

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#2 MrStarkiller
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We don't encourage OT topic creation typically nor "VS" topics in general.

My own stance towards "VS" is that there is NEVER enough thought put into the question..that burden is one the Topic Creator and were I to detail all such conditions I could think up (and there would be more)..it would never get anyway but the process would be amusing.

These aren't encouraged in social boards as they invite flaming. Baiting fanboy behavior. Here it would be less of an issue only because the average voter would have a bias they bring in being a member of this union.

~I'll allow this topic (for now)..but I don't encourage new users to create a poll (let alone a VS topic...a rather annoying OT type *one that isn't even marked here*) early on..let alone one I don't see as well thought out..and to be perfectly clear. One can NEVER satisfy with enough details for this sort of question to be worth giving an answer for. Thus I will not participate in the proper sense.

NOTE: What's your standing with SW:FU? I trust you've at least seen the Dark and Light Side endings...perhaps beaten Sith Master...would you perhaps be interested in Specialty Runs and speedrun tricks (exploits/glitches/skips) for that title?

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#3 optiow
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I vote Kratos!

It would be an epic fight but ultimately kratos would dominate.

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#4 asmaddasinain
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No.

Just no.

I'd have deleted this the second I saw it.

For a minute I thought 101TheBoss was here.

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#5 MrStarkiller
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Asmad: i know rite? Whenever I see "VS" topic done I get a feel of 'sameness' in the users.

optiow: Get back to your run.

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#6 asmaddasinain
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SRSLY I wouldn't have let this abomination remain.

The only Vs I am interested in right now is General Kratos Vs two Satyrs and two Hades Juggernauts

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#7 optiow
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optiow: Get back to your run.

MrStarkiller

Why?

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#8 MrStarkiller
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Asmad: Well said. However, break cutting can be...'necessary'.

optiow: Because you hold little worth as you are now. Just another voice. I wish to see you become something more.

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Im not really against either Starkiller or Kratos, but im going to go out on a limb and say that Starkiller did bring down a whole a Star Destroyer by himself. Could Kratos do something that destructive?
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#10 MrStarkiller
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It just doesn't work as a comparison to use such simple statemets in a versus.
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#11 optiow
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optiow: Because you hold little worth as you are now. Just another voice. I wish to see you become something more.

MrStarkiller

Like what?

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#12 MrStarkiller
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Just about anything other then a casual and a blogger.
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#13 asmaddasinain
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Im not really against either Starkiller or Kratos, but im going to go out on a limb and say that Starkiller did bring down a whole a Star Destroyer by himself. Could Kratos do something that destructive?Dusty114

I could spout **** like this all day so don't make me.

NOTE: I won't.

Atlas holds up the world, he could easily swat a Star Destroyer from the sky. Atlas could not crush Kratos with forefinger and thumb. Therfore Kratos > than Starkiller.

All this is based on fuzzy logic and random assumptions. As are all fanboi VS topics.

Don't make this place about them. We are *or at least like to think* that we are better than that

NOTE: we are.

 

I can't believe this topic still exists.

Lucky I'm not an officer. I have deleted **** less ludicrous than this in the past, on a whim

 

Optiow: This isn't just "a God of War Union". It happens to be The Ultimate God Of War Union.

Despite the laziness of some regulars this is meant to be a meeting place of the best of the best, sir!

Sure we chew the breeze and shoot the fat (or is that the other way around?) but this place is about God of War.

Titan Mode. At the very least attempt to finish it then start a NUR. Then we might consider you one of us. 

 

 

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#14 MrStarkiller
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All very abrasive. All very true.

Here's the sort of logic needed for "VS" topics to be serious. Read up boys.

NOTE: There was another crappy Dante VS Kratos topic at the GoWII board I briefl humored with logic and reason before dismissing again. For a short while the topic was sensible. As I left, so did proper discussion. The usual took its station once more. A cycle that cannot be stopped. It was interesting to hold it off if only briefly

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#15 optiow
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Just about anything other then a casual and a blogger.MrStarkiller

You forget, I am also a poster.

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#16 MrStarkiller
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...No, optiow..I haven't overlooked that fact...

~It just didn't matter that much to me..just posting was enough in the distant past. I've helped with the change in the board's overall feel/attitude..

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#17 Alucard_rules
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MrSK:A very interesting read, I'll have to continue it later, I got about half-way.
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#18 asmaddasinain
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All very abrasive. All very true.

MrStarkiller

You expected anything else?

 

NOTE: There was another crappy Dante VS Kratos topic at the GoWII board I briefl humored with logic and reason before dismissing again. For a short while the topic was sensible. As I left, so did proper discussion. The usual took its station once more. A cycle that cannot be stopped. It was interesting to hold it off if only briefly

MrStarkiller

Indeed you did. Didn't you favour the MASSIVE BLACKHOLE? *in your endo*

I see Vs topics and feel the need to spam. Next time I'm going to discuss breakfast dishes.

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#19 MrStarkiller
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Alucard: Indeed. It's a wordy bastard but a good read. I'll send it to Elliott later.

Asmad: I should hope not.

Nothing beats the Black Hole. (HUUUUURRRR)

Sounds reasonable.

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#20 optiow
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...No, optiow..I haven't overlooked that fact...

~It just didn't matter that much to me..just posting was enough in the distant past. I've helped with the change in the board's overall feel/attitude..

MrStarkiller

Well that is true. But I am happy posting.

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#21 MrStarkiller
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As indicated by your post count over a short period of time. Quantity indeed..

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#22 asmaddasinain
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all killer, no filler
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#23 optiow
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As indicated by your post count over a short period of time. Quantity indeed..

MrStarkiller

And quality, I am just in a few very active unions that always have people online when you are, so I post lots there.

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#24 MrStarkiller
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...All I see is smilies, blogs and excuses for a lack of progress.

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#25 Dusty114
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i have several questions and concerns here: why are going way off subject here in a thread that has nothing to do with what your talking about? whats the point in posting in this thread if your not going to stay on subject? I kind of find that a little disrespectful in a way because if a person puts thought into threads that are posted on here and you go and discuss something totally different, where is the respect among the members of the union and members of gamespot?
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#26 MrStarkiller
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This is an off-topic thread to begin with. One I opted to humor (at best). Realistcally I shouldn't have. Though we shouldn't be ranting and raving and carrying on either, at least the latter is 'fun'.

To post without respect to the topic is a time honored tradition even in those that do interest us. It just sort of happens without consideration.

I don't feel NEARLY sufficient thought was put into this thread in any regard. I believe I painted that picture clearly. The union rules, GS ToS, etc. haven't been paid any mind with this thread's creation (to begin with). "VS" threads are typically in bad taste. They are also just horrible to bring up if you should want serious discussion on the internet *typically*... nevermind getting fans/favoritism/bias/ignorance invovled.

I provided a "GOOD" look at 'vs' that happens to understand the topic at its core...which is to say it doesn't even try to give a REAL answer to the question posed. It would be foolish to do so. As harsh as all that is, the case stands.

Respect goes so far to begin with (provided it isn't absent). We here at TUGOWU (of the now) are a tad different than what you may remember...a little 'sword rattling' is just "sport". Those that get this and work with it tend to do just fine. A select few they are as they need also be interest in GoW to the extent that they go beyond the basic experience.

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#27 Dusty114
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Im just say wih threads in general, whether they are Vs threads or any other kind of threads.
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#28 MrStarkiller
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You'll have to elaborate. Short posts like that just don't cut it. Being concise is one thing...detailed another..that is neither. I feel I don't have the whole message after reading it.

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#29 Killzone333
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I must laugh - teehee hee ha! I thought you meant Starkiller the officer in this union! Anyways, Kratos would win.

Oh and just to say, I'm back! Been busy moving and hooking back up. I know you are all happy now, am I right?

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#30 MrStarkiller
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KZ333: Who are you again?
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#31 optiow
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...All I see is smilies, blogs and excuses for a lack of progress.

MrStarkiller

Yep.

i have several questions and concerns here: why are going way off subject here in a thread that has nothing to do with what your talking about? whats the point in posting in this thread if your not going to stay on subject? I kind of find that a little disrespectful in a way because if a person puts thought into threads that are posted on here and you go and discuss something totally different, where is the respect among the members of the union and members of gamespot?Dusty114

Well that is true...but if the officers are fine with it then...

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#32 MrStarkiller
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^Why we can't have nice things.
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#33 Killzone333
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KZ333: Who are you again?MrStarkiller

How could you not remember me - the recruit who attracted all the officers in the union?

Dusty: In this union, a LOT of things come up. I wondered why it was so off topic at first, but now I'm used to it.

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#34 Mr-Lucifer
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"attracted all the officers in the union?"? I'm curious what you mean by that...we're always around, friend.
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#35 Killzone333
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"attracted all the officers in the union?"? I'm curious what you mean by that...we're always around, friend.Mr-Lucifer

Well first it was just Starkiller, then you and Asmad. But not Kuro or Mrcc - or whoever that officer is with Homer as his avatar.

Anyone else I'm forgetting?

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#36 Alucard_rules
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Me, the leader, and MrCC was banned.
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#37 Killzone333
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I should have known CC was banned, now that I think. He's on some old topics.

Just in my wild curiosity, does anyone know why he was banned?

I just, I just get curious!

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#38 optiow
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[QUOTE="Alucard_rules"]Me, the leader, and MrCC was banned.Killzone333

Well atleast he is still around.

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#39 MrStarkiller
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optiow: You really must pay closer attention to the final results when you post. Specifically speaking, QUOTE failure again. I suggest the EDIT feature should you wish to correct it...otherwise...you'll just convey you are fine with such "standards".

Alucard: It would be easy to misread your post as saying both you and the Gent were banned rather than just the latter.

KZ333: Hard to tell. There isn't any known way to invasively check another user's Moderation History that I know of.

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#40 Dusty114
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The way i am looking this on this thread is that its getting a lot of posting on it.

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#41 MrStarkiller
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Not so much about the topic however. The voting is just silly.

~Versus topics are worthless if the user truely thinks a 'winner' can be decided..let alone by popular opinion in a given area. It's worthless to the point of being spam.

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#42 Mr_addam
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Starkiller would lose.
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#43 Dusty114
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It may be silly to you, but its just fun to talk about what if scenarios like this.

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#44 MrStarkiller
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If it doesn't play to the proper 'way' of going about it, it's rediculous. What-ifs are silly.

A pity but one user has appreciated the contents of the article I provided (after I READ it to the clown personally)..perhaps if you but read the "tl;dr" you could begin to appreciate the issue I take up with this...surely you are aware of how's these work at social boards. You're not ignorant of their application by trolls and the naive to incite flame wars or at least provide a place for fanboy spam rather then intelligent conversation on the so called focus of the thread.

Were their evidence of REAL effort put into this...I'd be happy to consider this legitimate.

~I'm quite close (as is) to proposing these topics be barred at TUGOWU and OT/Poll rights be suspended to the point that Leader approval is needed. It's better than just destroying each as they appear and explaining individual cases. These topics COULD work..but it's not likely they would get the 'energies' placed in them to qualify as legitimate...it's all but settled as I see it. In fact..I should have approached this as such long ago. Good came out of this afterall it seems.

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#45 Killzone333
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Dusty: Just listen to him. They really dislike polls here. I learned that the hard way.

Starkiller:Completely ban polls? A bit out of line...

but I'm sure Alucard would allow that suggestion. So, it'll probaly happen soon.

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#46 Dusty114
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What about debates?
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#47 MrStarkiller
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KZ333: As much as I love typing the current nick...do you perhaps have another without need to use an "M" or an "Z"? Perhaps a variety could be presented. If you find the current 'dub' to your liking, I can stick with it..

Polls..it's true we don't really care for them...but they have their uses now and then. There is a tendency to save it for 'business' however. The proposal would be to 'ban' VS topics as no one is EVER going to go through the effort to properly set one up let alone find users ANYWHERE on GS willing to discuss it at length in the proper sense. Sad but true. As for polls and OT...I was only going to suggest they be treated like "union games" in that they require approval by the Leader.

What makes you so certain Alucard would just go with the suggestion or that I'll even propose it right away?

Dusty: "Debates"? Elaborate.

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#48 Dusty114
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Like debating different issues with God of War or debating anything to do with God of War.
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#49 MrStarkiller
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Of course that would be fine..so long as the 'debate' is within reason. "VS" just aren't a good topic to use in all seriousness. I couldn't help, but notice their presence at the Star Wars union...players shyed away from serious SW:FU discussion in favor of other garbage. That was the only point of interest I had in being there...to find other serious players and perhaps learn a little...have a running mate for even higher runs than those I'd already done. New tricks, exploits, tactics/tips, tidbits, etc.

~It wasn't to be the case

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#50 Mr_addam
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Debates should be conducted "en masse".

Yup, you can't fault a good mass debate.