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#151 addaminsain
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Aagh. I have just spent a considerable amount of time writing my stage by stage guide to the Endurance Run, I then clicked UPDATE VIDEO INFO and got a message saying "please check yor video description" As I do not know what exactly I am checking for this is proving difficult.

If no one has any objections then I might just paste it here,though that may take a while because of stupid cencorship/html issues.

Endurance Run HEHBHTB run.
Truth is when I first decided to do a Hercules Barbarian Hammer run and thought about what spells I should limit myself to I chose TB and EH for one reason, the massive crowd control potential of Gorgon Rage coupled with Typhon's Bane. This tasty combo of MAX spells will annihilate any crowd situation. It is raw power. Costly but effective it excels against groups of strong statues (GMG) and works so well against the Hades Minotaur and Satyr Wave that it would be a shame not to use it. So I used it

Lets break this down a wave at a time, indulge me if you will. I shall go into the whys and wherefores of what I did, mentioning anything that I find note worthy along the way

Wave 1, "Grunts + Juggernauts"
Gorgon Rage coupled with some intensive Hammer lovin' will turn the first two juggernauts to dust in no time at all. You could try to use Hercules (suspected) 75 damage collisions to take the big guys down as can be seen from the few hits it took to destroy the third. Two triangle hits or one direct hit from MOTK are required to shatter each Statuesque Juggernaut. As I have shown previously MOTK is a nice follow up to the two triangle attack, the blow from MOTK is very nearly as fast as the attack of a bow cancelled triangle attack with the added benefit that it does MOAR damage and has a very pretty multi coloured shockwave effect, with excellent range.
It only takes two Hammer hits to kill each "grunt" but when with a bit of EH whoring you can shatter three with one hit (strangely only getting two hits for it though)

Wave 2
I first saw this tactic in Mistry's speedrun and thought I would give it a go. As I mention in the titles Argo's Revenge, for collisions can be used here if you wish to save magic,as can grabbing the "grey grunts" (can't be bothered to look the official name up) and square hurling them for collisions, its up to you really.

Wave 3
Quite possibly my favourite wave. I love shattering statues and when you do not have to use magic to create the statues then you are on the road to WIN. When you see the sirens chargin their energy well attack interrupt it. I find a Hammer blow works nicely if they are in range or a Bow Shot if they are not. If you intend to shatter a Gorgon you need to hit it hard and fast.Triangle Triangle with no delay or a swift MOTK (direct hit) should do it.
Bit of false grab to promote Gorgon Blast(?) floaty orb attack.

Wave 4
Nothing to tell really, the synchronised knockbacks are amusing but this is a wave of little consequence.

Wave 5
This wave can be PAIN. Partly because if you ever FAIL it you have to redo from the start. This is time for Gorgon Rage to Titan Storm. Behold for it is gooood! Sometimes it can miss a Satyr, more so if you use it from the other side of a magical barrier,I think. Note the way I use RotT to get right into the centre of the group whilst charin mah GR. Though upon rewatching I could have done it without, I would rather not take the risk though, to be honest. Charged Wind Blast to knock back a group, scored 48 hits with it too despite not being that close to the targets when I fired it, I guess (and speaking from a little ecperience) the number of hits also depend on how far apart the targets are, related to the "swirly" nature of the projectile. I used CWB in the hope of knocking the Satyrs back further than the HM, to put me one on one with the HM once the magic barrier came up. It worked. Only just. One on one HM handling? Thanks to GMG, always keen to share the wealth, kudos to you sir. Lethal Vortex does a very nice job of launching the Satyrs.

Wave 6
Meh

Wave 7
Take it easy, you are nearly there, to die now would be annoying. "that which does kill me only severs to piss me off" a famous quote from addaminsain, sometime earlier this week @TUGOWU. Those big ol' Cyclopii petrify and shatter real easy. You can hit them both with one GF but I played it safe, I am not 100% familiar with their attacks so I would rather play safe. I do not to want to waste a GF and have one of the onw eyed warriors break free so I activated RotT for some uninterrupted Hammer Smashee Smashee time. What I did upon petrifying the third Cyclops could be considered a lesson in prioritisation, running around/ignoring lesser foes in order to remove the main threat first. Anyone can hold block against a group of grunts and fleece when the chance arrises, having a Cyclops there with its guard breaking unblockable complicates matters, so take steps to simplify them.

What else? Use the barriers to your advantage to split your foes into manageable groups. You don't necessarily want to be on one side and have ALL your opponents on the other, such spamming of penetrative attacks is effective but is also slow, I would rather separate a couple of opponents from the "herd" take them out and LRR.

The Endurance Run is not easy, I never just romp straight through it, retries are required to familiarise yourself with and strategise for each wave. If you can put it all together first time every time then you are a better player than I.
addaminsain. thanks if you made it to the end.

NEEDLESS EDIT. It went through first time, amazingly I did not use a single banned word.

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#153 neuro_killer
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Titan Minotaur 3 elon005

A 100% tryumph of human mind over the callous forum engine, as I can see. Congrats! beer

Out of curiosity; you used the icon or the direct HTML command?

It took me a while to get no damage while fighting it.elon005

I rarely ever got any damage in this fight. But, unlike yourself, I've always handled the Stone Bull slowly and in a rather monotonious way ;)

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#154 elon005
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@neuro_killer: Icon FTW! The HTML was all jibberish to me. The red hurts my eyes. I've to change the colour settings of my tv...
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#155 elon005
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@neuro_killer: Icon FTW! The HTML was all jibberish to me.

The red/orange hurts my eyes. I've to change the colour settings of my tv... Next video will be Atlas Life *suggested by Addam*

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#156 addaminsain
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It should make an interesting comparison with my TMNUR Atlas Lift vid. Without wishing to sound conceited I don't see how I coould have handled that fight any better.
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#157 addaminsain
Member since 2008 • 1455 Posts
Zeus fight. HEHBHTB fun run over. Back to SERIOUS BUSINESS.
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#158 Snake4eva_92
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Minor post, to show I'm still here. Not enough spare time...
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#159 fightmastermax
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Zeus fight. HEHBHTB fun run over. Back to SERIOUS BUSINESS.addaminsain

I'll watch it soon.

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#160 elon005
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This is a must: GoW: CoO High Jump

It returns at last! I'm pretty sure those low red barriers will be skippable now.

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#161 elon005
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This is a must: GoW: CoO High Jump ~ Founded by GMG

It returns at last! I'm pretty sure those low red barriers will be skippable now.

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#162 fightmastermax
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Don't be fooled. I've know of this for a long while but we can't get over those barriers..like the Endurance Run they are HIGHER then they look...in order to skip with it we'll have to clear a leap up to the next floor rather then hope to grab a ledge (not an option ever)
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Strange, Kratos rolls very weirdly in CoO.
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#164 elon005
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@ GMG: Oh true, I clearly forgot about it. I remember someone talking about it...
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#165 fightmastermax
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Snake: True. It works well enough though. Using it to go over edges looks to give a slight speed advantage.

FiveGlory: I did. Back when I first found it, I was excited by the prospect. When we all got the game, it was quickly found that ledge grabs weren't going to happen and clearing barriers was no easy feat (if at all possible). No wall clipping has been done that I know of (that wasn't just graphical). This skip I ran into is the first useful application. Before it was one useless application to backtrack with.

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#166 elon005
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Another speed run is out, thanks to Shinobier. My time will be dedicated into watching all of it in the meantime.

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#167 fightmastermax
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I'm aware of this. It feels a little soon without drastic changes but I wouldn't expect anything less out of him. Perhaps no chest grabbing or EXP farming will help.

~I'll watch it soon enough, but first I need to arrange an oil change..then a trip to the mall so as to get the memory stick..using that I'll get Eternal's attention soon enough and I'll have him play while I address the Leadership thing. I'll first try here since I thought to do so recently.

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#168 Snake4eva_92
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The Leadership thing is inexcusable now. How long has it been? 2-3 months now at least. Ridiculous on Gamespot's part. Does Eternal have any plans to return?
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#169 fightmastermax
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Snake: Customer Support dropped the ball. I'll see what I can do after I get to the next save. (here) As for following up things at his place, I can't say for certain when I'll be able to do that.

EDIT

I've contacted them. I'll likely send Eternal a link to do the same (again). Or to go to their original email and use that info to continue where we left off....

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#170 neuro_killer
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Strange, Kratos rolls very weirdly in CoO.Snake4eva_92

Yes, I've noticed it too. He also runs weirdly. I can't understand how it's possible the Quality Assurance let it through.

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#171 Akheon
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The next chapter in this series...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lE0BPM_XtuY

A new one for GoW II may come this weekend too.

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#172 fightmastermax
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The next chapter in this series...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lE0BPM_XtuY

A new one for GoW II may come this weekend too.

Akheon

I was delighted you got this up so quickly. I honestly didn't expect it.

~New observations are always welcome. I've been wanting to see a your 'observations' series continued in GoWII.

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#173 addaminsain
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Tidy FMM. I like what you did there. It surprises me that one such as you is not an officer here.
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#174 fightmastermax
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Tidy FMM. I like what you did there. It surprises me that one such as you is not an officer here.addaminsain

Shocking is it not?

Not terribly given Eternal's banning. The sudden end of the Witty Caption Thread marked the disappearance of the last active Officer (tuff_gong)

Though I've had the position on more once..for extended periods of time. Even subbed as Leader 2-3 times.

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#175 addaminsain
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A bit of Colossus, Hydra Armour, Blade of Olympus and Cronos Rage shenanigans.

I just noticed the "new" feature at YouTube where you can toggle the quality of the vid you are watching. I seem to remember that feature appeared once before.

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#176 elon005
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This new series will be entertaining once again. I'd like to see you do a clean TMNUR just using normal kratos if you have time.
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#177 addaminsain
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This new series will be entertaining once again. I'd like to see you do a clean TMNUR just using normal kratos if you have time. elon005

So would I. Time is not what prevents me from making more TMNUR vids, lack of ability is what caused my TMNUR to pause at the translator.

I have some TMNUR vids, I think my "featured" Atlas lift is about the best. I also have Euryale from the "sweet spot" using the BH and the Cerberus B*stard fight too.

I am this very afternoon going to have another go at the Translator fight, TMNUR stylee. If I make it through, the vid will go up, no matter how scrappy the performance may be. Can't say fairer than that, can I.

After this fight only the Endurance Run may be a problem. Not having GR to TS will definitely slow my progress in the satyr/minotaur wave but with lots of rolling a bit of PS whoring and using the dee-le-shus HM strat I should be able to get through it.

Lahkesis and Zeus should not be a problem, I can trick one on one all day long, it may take a while but I will WIN eventually.

Enough talk, I must leave, right now to beat the Translator fight.

EDIT

aaaagh!

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#178 fightmastermax
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addaminsain: Back to the battle then is it? Keep us well informed and you WILL get through it in time.
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#179 addaminsain
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addaminsain: Back to the battle then is it? Keep us well informed and you WILL get through it in time.fightmastermax

No doubt I will, my good man.

In the meantime Revised Hades Minotaur Handling vid. I actually tried the strat against a herd of six HM, it did not go well.

Warning: teh EPIC description has not been written yet, (sunday is EDIT day) and this vid contains a HM bein purpLUZed on two occasions, if memory serves.

FMM: What should I cover in a Breeder False Grab vid? The orb spewing? The "put down" without being in an animation? Please list anything that I should include to ensure I do not miss/omit/forget something, if you would be so kind.

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#180 fightmastermax
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Viewed the video. Nicely done.

~Note that each false grab netting the glitch is like landing a mid-grab (RotT orbs and 20 damage) and not being dedicated to the animation (unlike the Breeder). 10 of these will kill the Breeder. 1-4 and 6 through 9 being false. 5 and 10 being 'real'. Word it how you like.

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#181 addaminsain
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Viewed the video. Nicely done.

~Note that each false grab netting the glitch is like landing a mid-grab (RotT orbs and 20 damage) and not being dedicated to the animation (unlike the Breeder). 10 of these will kill the Breeder. 1-4 and 6 through 9 being false. 5 and 10 being 'real'. Word it how you like.

fightmastermax

Thanks, I generally do

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#182 addaminsain
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DOUBLEPOST FOR GREAT DOUBLE TRANSLATOR WIN JUSTICE.

Sorry about the all caps but I am feeling triumphant. I have two new Translator vid, recorded back to back, no less.

The first

is a "stress breaker" "I need a win" MAXEH to get it vid. I consider the "tactics" used here the cheapest you can use for easy WIN.Yummy,

The latter is a different animal altogether. It is the long awaited (by me if no one else) TMNUR Translator fight ,behold for it is good.

As always, my friends, your comment are more than welcome.

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#183 Snake4eva_92
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Youtube refuses to let me type comments so I'll say it here. For the TMNUR Translator:

A much needed WIN. Nicely done. Too much SERIOUS BUSINESS for music though?

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#185 addaminsain
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Youtube refuses to let me type comments so I'll say it here. For the TMNUR Translator:

A much needed WIN. Nicely done. Too much SERIOUS BUSINESS for music though?

Snake4eva_92

Yes. Also notice the minimal captioning. I did not want to detract from the beauty of the fight with my crass captions and poor music taste.

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#186 addaminsain
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Pantheon of Atropos

or Cerberus Breeders and Jugernaut fight. Not the "false grab" showcase that I intend to make. Sure I harvest a few orbs via false grabs but this is just a straight clean fight under TMNUR conditions.

GET IN THE CAR!

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#187 Snake4eva_92
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I think you may have accidentally pasted the wrong link. Takes me to a 'bassjunkies' site.
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#188 addaminsain
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I think I fixed it. sorry 'bout that.

COPY/PASTE. I did it wrong.

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#189 fightmastermax
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Viewed and commented.
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#190 174IQ
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[QUOTE="fightmastermax"]addaminsain: Back to the battle then is it? Keep us well informed and you WILL get through it in time.addaminsain

No doubt I will, my good man.

In the meantime Revised Hades Minotaur Handling vid. I actually tried the strat against a herd of six HM, it did not go well.

Warning: teh EPIC description has not been written yet, (sunday is EDIT day) and this vid contains a HM bein purpLUZed on two occasions, if memory serves.

FMM: What should I cover in a Breeder False Grab vid? The orb spewing? The "put down" without being in an animation? Please list anything that I should include to ensure I do not miss/omit/forget something, if you would be so kind.

I liked Athy's cameo. I loled. Also, good job. You should try three next time.
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#191 addaminsain
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Yeah Athy likes to watch Kratos tackle minotaurs, I cut the vis right before Special K launched then repeatedly bounced her.

Athy likes it "woof".

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Also notice the minimal captioning. I did not want to detract from the beauty of the fight with my crass captions and poor music taste. addaminsain

Crass captions? Poor music taste? Well, I don't listen to the type of music you listen but your captions are of the same quality as your British wit. Which means - high. Seriously addaminsain, stop being so modest 'cause you really have no reasons to.

Everybody's posting loads of their own vids so I will post a sample of myself having fun with GoW, too :D

Minotaur Abuse

Been looking for such vids on YouTube but haven't found any. Most of you surely know this, though. I haven't. Discovering it was fun.

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#193 174IQ
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Well aren't we just the deceptively intelligent young lady? I wish I had the raw skill and talent required to stare at a minotaur on a platform. You should give Computer Science III a try.
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#194 addaminsain
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Well aren't we just the deceptively intelligent young lady? I wish I had the raw skill and talent required to stare at a minotaur on a platform. You should give Computer Science III a try.174IQ

Do I detect a trace amount of sacasm within that comment?

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#195 174IQ
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None, whatsoever.
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#196 addaminsain
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None, whatsoever.174IQ

O, RLY?

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#197 174IQ
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Double sarcasm FTW.
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#198 fightmastermax
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I feel like the God of Thunder...it must be 7:30AM!!!

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#199 174IQ
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am, aM, AM, AYE EM AHHH HA HA HA HA...
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Well aren't we just the deceptively intelligent young lady? 174IQ

We? The? Well... loox like someone's discovered rhetorical questions. Better late than never.

I wish I had the raw skill and talent required to stare at a minotaur on a platform.174IQ

Severe degeneration continued. Standards keep on dropping drastically from generation to generation. Current level - 2 meters underground. But then the Sumerians also did complain on their kids. BTW. Are you capable of tying your shoelaces without other people's help?

You should give Computer Science III a try.174IQ

Jeez, zero creativity. Stock one-liners and references. Cliches within cliches - led and chased by more cliches. Receive my condolences.