Official SD! vs RAW 2006 Disscussion Thread

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#251 Lockedge
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Hrm. This whole 6 people in the ring thing is pretty controversial. I'm not an expert on GC tech, but I know one thing. On Dreamcast GD-ROMs, able to hold 1GB of data, they made a wrestling game that while flawed, had 9 people in the ring at a time. The gamecube is a faster machine, and its discs, if dual layered(I remember reading an article of some sort saying they can be) can hold nearly 3GB. The GC compresses its audio and textures, so those wouldn't take up much space. It's all up to system power. With the visuals in the game now, if the best devs for the GC worked on it, 6 people could work. Just like on the Xbox and the PS2. That said, we don't have the best devs. People still have a hard time focusing and tapping all of GC's dev techniques. So it isn't a question of whether the discs can hold it it's can the system make a 30FPS game with 6 people in the ring?

Leave that to the techies, but I'm saying yes. It's technically able to. For single player things, you would only need 2 areas for bars, maybe 3 if you have a tag partner. In 4 person matches it could go normally. Outside of those matches, for things larger, there could be a toggle system. You would see the "bars" of the character you're targeting. There, that issue is solved.
Wwervin, you have a point about Resident evil, but in the end, AI is AI. Each object in both games moves through IF processes and animations. Both have the ability to dodge to move in non-linear paths, and both choose which attacks to use. The difference in that in wrestling games, more attacks are available, therefore more things to add to the "If" processes. They may disappear, but that doesn't change the fact that there can be a large amount of enemies on the screen at once. While they fizzle away, more come. It's all about what is on the screen. In RE4, it didn't lag with a lot of people on screen. It doesn't build over time, so it could stay steady like that. I see no reason why it isn't possible to have 6 people on screen if they are basically the same thing.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. I feel I'm right, but I could be wrong. Don't just say "You're wrong" though, show proof, or support your arguments please :)
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#252 hbk91
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When do you guys think we will get another update? I am so excited! :D
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#253 Rogue11384232
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When do you guys think we will get another update? I am so excited! :Dhbk91


* falls over dead anime style * iunno maybe next week they will start the smackdown countdown
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#254 hbk91
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All I know is that OPS2 Magazine will have a hands on preview in their upcoming issue on the 14th July.
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#255 Sadisticko
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yeah/....well i somehow can't post at gamefaqs...can someone help me i'm a newb omg help omg . It says i'm not authorized......:?

can i gt abnned from gamefaqs and not form gamespot?
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#256 hbk91
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I guess so. I don't know how I can help ya. :?
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#257 hbk91
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Image
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Are those real pics from the game? :shock:

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#258 wwervin
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Compare the crowd to the oficial screenshots.
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#259 Biggestgeekever
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I'd like it where you could go into the crowds.
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#260 hbk91
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NEW SvR 2006 BOARD ON GAMESPOT: http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_topics.php?board=929017
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#261 wwervin
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Hey guys check this out.

I don't know if anyone noticed but that thing BEHIND the casket slightly to the top is the earth mover used in the burried alive match. It looks pretty cool!

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#262 L3M
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NEW SvR 2006 BOARD ON GAMESPOT: http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_topics.php?board=929017hbk91

You gonna go there?

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#263 wwervin
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No. Mods will be lurking there, I'd rather not get banned again.
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#264 Rogue11384232
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No. Mods will be lurking there, I'd rather not get banned again.wwervin


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#265 The_Dude14
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[QUOTE="hbk91"]NEW SvR 2006 BOARD ON GAMESPOT: http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_topics.php?board=929017L3M

You gonna go there?

Me, no. I've had twice the number of bad experiences on the integrated boards than I have had in the regular Gamespot boards, in half the time. I'm enjoying the duscussions on this board, and I'll just stick to these.

Also, the way WWE is firing people, THQ and Yukes will be lucky to have 60 wrestlers to choose from.

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#266 Kotenks
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Hmm with the dudleys gone they may remov ethe tag team feature in the game as there are no Tag teams

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#267 Kotenks
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They should make the royal Rumble meter optional

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#268 wwervin
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Why? If you thought the RR meter was bad you gotta be kidding me. I hated the way you used to get knocked out with one punch in the old ones. The meter rules. It adds a challange to the RR and adds replay value.
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#269 Kotenks
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I hate it. It makes the rumbl boring that's why I have decided not to buy SVR. I rented it for a week ( kept for 2) and it got boring
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#270 Rogue11384232
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Why? If you thought the RR meter was bad you gotta be kidding me. I hated the way you used to get knocked out with one punch in the old ones. The meter rules. It adds a challange to the RR and adds replay value.wwervin


speaking of royal rumble....they should make it so once you get kicked out you can still play but as a different charecter. Like in no mercy.
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#271 L3M
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[QUOTE="L3M"]

[QUOTE="hbk91"]NEW SvR 2006 BOARD ON GAMESPOT: http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_topics.php?board=929017The_Dude14

You gonna go there?

Me, no. I've had twice the number of bad experiences on the integrated boards than I have had in the regular Gamespot boards, in half the time. I'm enjoying the duscussions on this board, and I'll just stick to these.

Also, the way WWE is firing people, THQ and Yukes will be lucky to have 60 wrestlers to choose from.

You're right about. The roster seems smaller now.

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#272 anthonykohart
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I would like the roster to be alot bigger thatn the usually 60 yo 70 people. I like where there going adding legends, each year they should add the people who have got inducted into the hall of fame.
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#273 BigPoon316
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Hmm with the dudleys gone they may remov ethe tag team feature in the game as there are no Tag teams

Kotenks

like they did in Smackdown vs Raw the first one?

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#274 BigPoon316
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I think they should include these guys in the legend section

Hulk Hogan

Bret Hart

Stone Cold Steve Austin

The Rock

Owen Hart

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#275 Rogue11384232
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[QUOTE="Kotenks"]

Hmm with the dudleys gone they may remov ethe tag team feature in the game as there are no Tag teams

BigPoon316

like they did in Smackdown vs Raw the first one?


yeah for the past year WWE screwed the dudleyz...one of the greatest tag temas ever, out of being on TV. Which lead them int not being in games....WWE decides who's in the game so...yeah...although knowing THQ they will make them easily creatable.
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#276 The_Dude14
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[QUOTE="wwervin"]Why? If you thought the RR meter was bad you gotta be kidding me. I hated the way you used to get knocked out with one punch in the old ones. The meter rules. It adds a challange to the RR and adds replay value.Rogue11384232


speaking of royal rumble....they should make it so once you get kicked out you can still play but as a different charecter. Like in no mercy.

Umm, you can.

I like the idea of making the meter optional, just don't take it out of the game altogether. The more options you have, the better things are, IMO.

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#277 Chicago_Nut
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The RR meter is good and all but i think they should change somethin in the Royal Rumble matches.Example, in story mode i was number 30 entry i had to wait an hour before i got in. They should say in the Royal Rumble match that if u wanna skip to ur entry u can.
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#278 hbk91
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[QUOTE="hbk91"]NEW SvR 2006 BOARD ON GAMESPOT: http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_topics.php?board=929017L3M

You gonna go there?

From time to time I guess.
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#279 hbk91
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What about background music? I want a few S.O.A.D tracks in there! :P
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#280 dRehkJY
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If they take out the released guys, it means that there will be lots of space for extra features or at least 16 legends
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#281 Chicago_Nut
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If they do superstar voice overs again they should make it better cause some of them sounded like they just came in and are just reading a script with no excitement.

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#282 hbk91
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Is commentary actually in?
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#283 The_Dude14
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Is commentary actually in?hbk91

I hope so. Its never been very good, but its improving and does add a bit to the experience.

As for voiceovers, I could really live without them. They are really limiting to the storymode, and the wrestlers don't seem to have their hearts in it. While its nice to hear the superstars, I think its negatives outweigh its positives, especially since the Superstars really don't se to put much effort into it.

EDIT: But, I don't think THQ or Yukes has said anything one way or the other, as of yet.

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#284 Chicago_Nut
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I dont think they r goin with voice overs cause it didnt go good last time.
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#285 Jackov
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I dont think they r goin with voice overs cause it didnt go good last time.Chicago_Nut

Hate to say it, but they are gonna have it. I can really care less about voice-overs and commentary. They're just a waste of space.

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#286 Chicago_Nut
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[QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"]I dont think they r goin with voice overs cause it didnt go good last time.Jackov

Hate to say it, but they are gonna have it. I can really care less about voice-overs and commentary. They're just a waste of space.

They should take space and instead of putting it on voice overs and commentary, they should make the storylines longer and better than ever with lots more options to choose from.
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#287 Kotenks
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I need commentary or else I feel scared when i am wrestling like when a guy comes out
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#288 Chicago_Nut
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I like commentary and the ring introduction, i think those r cool.
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#289 Jackov
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I mostly love the ring introductions. If I want commentary, I'll make some commentary of my own while I'm playing. :P

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#290 nellyg619
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If they do superstar voice overs again they should make it better cause some of them sounded like they just came in and are just reading a script with no excitement.

Chicago_Nut

i hope the wrestler you r can actually talk

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#291 nellyg619
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I thought i wasn't going to get this game since i thpught there r going to be some minor upgrades but after reading the new features, there are so many major upgrades which means i just have to get it
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#292 Chicago_Nut
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I hope they make upgrades to the cage match.

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#293 nellyg619
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I hope they make upgrades to the cage match.

Chicago_Nut

Yeah maybe we can finally get out of the cage by the door

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#294 hbk91
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I hope they make upgrades to the cage match.

Chicago_Nut
I agree. I want to see the EC, HIAC and Ladder match upgraded too.
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#295 Kotenks
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Okay I need help I can only get four games for X-mas

Kingdom hearts 2
Ratchet: deadlocked
Legend of Zelda: TP
Shadow the hedgehog

which should i shave off to get SVR 2006

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#296 hbk91
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"Shadow the hedgehog"
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#297 Kotenks
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That could work... Nah my little brother is a Sonic fanatic has every GC sonic game and is trying to get all the original Sonic gensis games. I won't get LOZ then
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#298 wwervin
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Kingdom hearts 2.

Annnyway....cage match will be improoved, I can almost 99% say it will.

Voice overs is a good feature. Without them it looks like an RPG game. It's a sports game guys, not a cartoon RPG, we need the voice overs instead of reading what they say. But if you really don't like them, options are cool (like take them off and put text in if you want). And the roster can be fixed. Now more of the other superstars can be added to the game we weren't gonna see before.

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#299 superman2412
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"Shadow the hedgehog"hbk91
ya thas not cool
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#300 Kotenks
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300th post I believe that maybe I will finally play the cage match. I haven't played it since SYM