UPDATE: Jeff Hardy Heads To Court Later This Month, Full List Of Charges

I understand what Straight Edge is, which is why when I was speaking of Punk I didn't know if he had always been straight edge.

And ok will all the straight edge people in this union stand up?

I understand what Straight Edge is, which is why when I was speaking of Punk I didn't know if he had always been straight edge.

And ok will all the straight edge people in this union stand up?

lilhbk

Well obviously I need to put two and two together for you, I am.

I'm straight edge. :P Haven't done any drugs, smoked anything or drank ever, even though it's been pushed in my face a lot. That's part of why I don't view CM Punk as a typical heel, although his character is turning flat-out heel in several ways and some of the "depth" to his character is going away sadly.

I think what he's doing now though is great, but I think the WWE is afraid to let him say some of the things he could be saying. So right now he almost repeats himself week after week, but it's a really sensitive subject for the crowd and they hate it. People hate being told they're wrong to begin with, so CM Punk will always get major heat even if he repeats himself.

It's really sad that Jeff decided to go down this path again..I hope he wakes up..fast..

This thread is about Jeff Hardy and his legal situation

This CM Punk/Straightedge line is getting a little too touchy for my taste (of which, I am partly responsible) and any more discussion of it will be deleted and this thread will be locked. For whatever reason, I'm still an officer, so maybe I should act like one. Stick to the topic.

It's really sad that Jeff decided to go down this path again..I hope he wakes up..fast..

-CoMBaT-

Alright, I understand that Jeff had these drug problems for several years, and they must have stopped while we was in the WWE. You can't deny this, he wasn't suspended and they put the belt on him. Dark_Hylian8

 You're forgetting the time he was suspended TWO WEEKS BEFORE WRESTLEMANIA 24. 

[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]Alright, I understand that Jeff had these drug problems for several years, and they must have stopped while we was in the WWE. You can't deny this, he wasn't suspended and they put the belt on him. sephy37

You're forgetting the time he was suspended TWO WEEKS BEFORE WRESTLEMANIA 24.

Yeah I remember, I was reffering to after that particular suspension, when he was against Triple H, Edge, Orton, Matt, etc. He didn't have a violation since then if I am not mistaken. That is over a year off drugs. My point in my original post was, I think the WWE gave him the "Thank-you-very-much" goodbye by taking his drug past and slamming in his face and into the ears of kids all around the world. Think about it, really. Jeff Hardy was the hero of every kid in the arena, and some of the older guys, then out of nowhere, the feud with CM Punk took everything and destroyed it. CM Punk's character was out to destroy Jeff Hardy's, and it happened. I don't know about you guys, but if my employer took my problems and smacked me in the face with them infront of the people who worshipped me, I wouldn't take it very well either.

Also, Jeff was on his second strike. Strike 3 means you're fired (or so they say. Everything I've seen says that strike 3 gives them the right/cause to fire, not necessarily that WWE will. Oddly enough, it seems, no one's had a strike 3 yet to see). Fired as he became the undisputed face Smackdown, reaching the height of his popularity and marketability. Fired towards the tail end of his contract as WWE was desperately trying to resign him. Fired so that, as the height of his popularity and marketability would be useless to WWE. Fired so that, at the height of his popularity and marketability, not only would he not resign with WWE, but when he did need more drug money, he'd be more inclined to seek money elsewhere.

It is realistically impossible for WWE's drug testing to prove to me that they test everyone randomly the same way. WWE's history only reinforces my doubt (they've had drug testing since the 90s, after all).

This also leads me to a different line of thought. Do the strikes reset? Masters, for instance, has been fired and brought back. Let's say he were to *gasp* test positive for steroids (a shocking leap of assumption, I know), would that be strike 2, or, since this is a new contract, would he be back to strike one?

Assuming Jeff Hardy does ever come back to WWE, one would have to hope that, after this, the rules would change for him. Whether WWE curbed his drug issues while he was with there (and that would explain why he might want some "time off") or not, if WWE were to bring him back, they damn well could and should do it this time. They would be irresponsible not to.

As for the Punk storyline causing Hardy to relapse, I don't see it that way. If anything, that storyline should have only reinforced Jeff, were he clean. Seeing all the lives he influenced, that he was a positive role model to. Showing that you could make mistakes and come back, be better, reach the top of your field. Shouldn't that make you feel good about yourself, not send you back down the junky side of the Force.

Or, if he weren't clean, shouldn't that storyline have been something of an intervention. Bringing Hardy face to face with his problem publically with the people who he influenced.

I dunno.

Judging by what was found, though (steroids and painkillers, if I'm not mistaken), I don't it was the storyline that would cause the relapse.

It's hard to have any respect for Jeff right now.

I could rant forever about this but I mean.. just watch any promo CM Punk did while they were feuding, that pretty much sums up my feelings.

[UPDATE 2]

North Carolina's The News & Observer has an article up featuring these new details regarding the Jeff Hardy situation.

- Jeff Hardy and Beth were at home when the raid took place Friday morning. Beth was not arrested.

- The case is still under investigation meaning more charges against Hardy remain possible.

- It is still not known if the drugs found at the home were for Hardy's personal use or if he was selling them.

- Opium trafficking, which is one of the charges Hardy faces, carries a mandatory prison sentence of 3-14 years, even for first-time offenders.

"Don't think of judging Jeff Hardy until you've walked a mile in his shoes. I will always have Jeffs back..."

from Chris Jericho's twitter account.keiblerfan69

Didn't see that coming.

And as far as Jeff goes, "Don't do the crime if you can't handle the time."

If Hardy faces jail time something tells me that we won't "see him in the future."

Where exactly is this opium stuff coming from for them to charge him with it? From the actual report, that one, clearly the most serious, is also the one I have the most trouble understanding. It seems far-fetched.

Some things to keep in mind as we jump to conclusions are that being charged does not mean convicted. Plus, with the investigation on-going, doesn't that mean no charges have been formally brought against him, yet? Until that happens, we really can't speculate on what he'll be facing.

The real key here, from my perspective, is whether he's selling or not and, regardless, it is one that will be difficult to prove in court, seeing as how, unless I missed something, they didn't catch him doing a drug deal.

Personally, IMO, if he's not selling, he doesn't need to go to jail. Strict-ass probation, mandatory rehab and a billion hours of public service. It definately seems unlikely that Jeff will be able to get out of this without some heavy probation and that, alone, could kill a return to WWE, assuming WWE is even interested anymore.

And finally, no matter what the charges are, don't forget about the almighty plea bargain, which is where I see this going. They are going to have a hard time, with what I know, proving he was dealing anything, but it seems like they have his balls firmly in their grasp on possesion.

I still don't know why they raided his house in the first place. Was it posted here and i missed it?

Anyhow, this is dissapointing, and if he gets convicted for some of this charges, then yeah...good bye Jeff Hardy you had a great career.

But as the_dude said, how are they going to prove he was going to deal these drugs? I mean they just raided his house and found this stuff. He was not caught dealing anything

I still don't know why they raided his house in the first place. Was it posted here and i missed it?

Anyhow, this is dissapointing, and if he gets convicted for some of this charges, then yeah...good bye Jeff Hardy you had a great career.

But as the_dude said, how are they going to prove he was going to deal these drugs? I mean they just raided his house and found this stuff. He was not caught dealing anything

lilhbk

I read on PWTorch that the police received an anonymous tip.

well this all sucks for him though i will say this

annouymous tip sounds rather fishy to get a search warrant for a random annouymous tip id like to know more exactly what this tip was about cause i can call and say annouymously we got a crack smoker in my neigherborhood hes next door but one man's witness has never been enough for a search warrant. so even if jeff is guilty id like to make sure they got the search warrant properly before he gets jailed for years otherwise i dont care how guilty the guy is get an illegal search warrant arrest the bloody cops not the criminal. amendment rights are in the constitution for a reason folks.

so assuming it was a legal search warrant still doesnt sound like he got caught dealing anything which is good for him and hopefully means maybe he can get scared straight edge? lol before he really screws up. now if hes guilty and has all that ya community service probahation and ill hope he gets sense knocked into him if not well hell be in jail soon enough then after that but i like to give folks a second chance before getting thrown in the slammer which really do nothing to help anybody aside from being a rotting prison which is good i dont want prisons being comfortable but just saying if he can get a chance to redeem himself i say go for it and since it doesnt seem like he was hurting anyone but himself at the moment i dont see a problem with this.

still its been proven time and again money /= happiness and famous people are just like the rest of us prone to the same stupidness of humanity and well that includes some drugs on the side. i admit im not drug free history though ive been clean for many years now if only i could kill my porn drug id be completely clean but im working on it point is we all have these same drugs or at least most of us do we all screw up so until the guy is actually proven guilty....yes i beleive innocent till proven guilty needs to still apply here and everywhere lets not totally kill the guy yet. and hell speaking of porn id challenge all of you to come out and say you arent addicted most if not all of oyu are and science proves that porn addiction has a similar effect to coke go look it up or was it crack one of the too its hard to explain but its need for it is similar to a crack addicts need for crack so with that said i think all of us here are crack addicts or at least most of us are before we all go saying we are all innocent of drugs here i dont condone drugs nor do i want others to use them but ill admit i have a guilty addiction its just fortunently not illegal lol. hell i think beer should be illegal its really worse than alot of stuff you can get on the streets just based on the ease you can get it at least if we are using the it should be illegal its bad for you logic.

who knows from the sounds of it it could be some serious freakin pain killers and well everyone in WWE has some of those maybe not this much but they might i mean it was his house if you kept some on hand youd have it at your house maybe you just take alot theres really alot here i dont understand and i cant quite from a rational point of view say burn jeff at the stake yet. hell he may never of thrown the stuff away i got medicine in the cabinet from 10 years ago we havent thrown away. just saying here.

[QUOTE="LilRonnie10"]Hahaha, see, CM Punk is right, Jeff Hardy is a crappy role model, who takes drugs, he ain't straightedge like my man Punk!lilhbk

nobody is straight edge like you're man CM Punk.

Redders says hello.

As for the whole situation regarding Jeff... erm... guess it is pretty darned difficult for people to change their ways. Real shame that he's still the same old Jeff, I was getting hopeful... but that was a mistake!

But as the_dude said, how are they going to prove he was going to deal these drugs? I mean they just raided his house and found this stuff. He was not caught dealing anythinglilhbk

Ultimately, an anonymous tip does sound fishy, but I can see how that could be enough to get a warrant, these days. Though, I'm sure that will be something that Jeff's lawyer will be looking at for his defense. Jeff Hardy, specifically, and wrestlers, in general, will not be given the benefit of the doubt. The last thing any community wants is to wake up one morning to find the next Benoit. Hardy, specifically, it is public knowledge that he has failed and been disciplined for drug use, therefore, it is likely that they would take a tip that he would be in possession of drugs more seriously than they would a report on Bob, up the street.

I know, I said that would be a very difficult charge for them to make stick, given what I know of the story.

Ultimately, an anonymous tip does sound fishy, but I can see how that could be enough to get a warrant, these days. Though, I'm sure that will be something that Jeff's lawyer will be looking at for his defense. Jeff Hardy, specifically, and wrestlers, in general, will not be given the benefit of the doubt. The last thing any community wants is to wake up one morning to find the next Benoit. Hardy, specifically, it is public knowledge that he has failed and been disciplined for drug use, therefore, it is likely that they would take a tip that he would be in possession of drugs more seriously than they would a report on Bob, up the street.The_Dude14

[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]I know, I said that would be a very difficult charge for them to make stick, given what I know of the story.

Ultimately, an anonymous tip does sound fishy, but I can see how that could be enough to get a warrant, these days. Though, I'm sure that will be something that Jeff's lawyer will be looking at for his defense. Jeff Hardy, specifically, and wrestlers, in general, will not be given the benefit of the doubt. The last thing any community wants is to wake up one morning to find the next Benoit. Hardy, specifically, it is public knowledge that he has failed and been disciplined for drug use, therefore, it is likely that they would take a tip that he would be in possession of drugs more seriously than they would a report on Bob, up the street.Dark_Hylian8

[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]Police usually take every drug tip seriously. Now add in the factor that Jeff Hardy is FAMOUS.The_Dude14

[QUOTE="The_Dude14"][QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]Police usually take every drug tip seriously. Now add in the factor that Jeff Hardy is FAMOUS.Dark_Hylian8

[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]I agree. That cop got to read the guy who was World Heavyweight Champion 2 weeks ago his rights.The_Dude14

Oh I can imagine. Let us all hope the kid is a CM Punk fan.

Speaking of which:

Thisiscompleteutterbull****.com has just discovered the the "anonymous tip" that led to Jeff Hardy's arrest was from current WWE World Heavyweight Champion, CM Punk. When our reporter approached Mr. Punk for comment, his response was, "Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na, Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha."

[UPDATE 3]

- Jeff Hardy will head to court on Wednesday, September 30th, and will face the following charges:

* Felony possession of cocaine
* Felony drug trafficking of opium
* (Two Counts) Felony possession with intent to redistribute a Schedule III drug
* Maintaining a dwelling for drug use and/or distribution
* Misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia

- The drug trafficking charge comes from the weight of the pills that Hardy had in his home at the time of the bust. If Hardy is able to provide a legal prescription for the painkillers (some or all), the weight would be reduced, and then the trafficking charges could be dropped.

- While Hardy promised a statement through his TWITTER last week, he still has not issued that statement.

Credit: Pwinsider.com

Ya know....I don't know what to make of this.

Should I not care? or should I troll Jeff Hardy fans on youtube?

It looks like Jeff Hardy has deleted his Twitter page and MySpace page. His fiance's Twitter page is still up, but all content has been removed from it. Link256

or should I troll Jeff Hardy fans on youtube?

TheGm86

Obvious choice is obvious

Jim Ross on The Jeff Hardy Situation: Jeff Hardy has taken down his Twitter page which is a smart move. The less Jeff says about his legal entanglements the better. I do not believe for a moment that Jeff Hardy is a "drug trafficker" or "dealer." I don't know why Jeff allegedly was in possession of the drugs in question, there are lots of avenues of speculation, but hopefully there is be a viable explanation. Nonetheless this apparent mistake will hopefully be quickly and efficiently addressed so that Jeff can put this embarrassing ordeal behind him and focus on more positive things including his own physical and mental well being.

You can check out the full article here.