Weekly TV Thread - March 25 - 31

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#1 JML897
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The Rock will be on the show tonight!

It looks like they're teasing a Jericho/Fandango feud on WWE.com so expect that. I personally think a guy like Fandango is beneath Jericho at the point, but apparently not.

The rest of the preview is full of stuff you'd expect - Punk/Taker continuing their feud, Hell No/Dolph&BigE continuing their feud, etc. There was no mention of Brock/Triple H so I'm guessing that feud won't be built on tonight.

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#2 pokajabba
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The Rock will actually be on TV this week?! :o

 Dance!

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#3 jedi_marcos
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At this point im not sure what to expect besides a Jericho/Fandango feud.At least ill enjoy Rock pwning Cena on the mic as always.
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#4 TruthTellers
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The Rock will actually be on TV this week?! :o

 Dance!

pokajabba
Well, at least William Fitchner's happy.
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#5 cryceaye5
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Until he gots on the wrong side of De Niro. Then he's just a dead man on the other end of this line.

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#6 JML897
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Crowd seems hot so far. ....and here comes Fandango to make them not care
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#7 jedi_marcos
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CM Punk opening=Ratings and interest.Loved it.And I expect a great crowd from Philly as always.
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#8 pokajabba
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I almost forgot RAW was on XD

What did I miss? 

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#9 JML897
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Yeah, the crowd was great even for a Fandango segment (even though they didn't get great until Jericho showed up). I've been underwhelmed by Philly crowds lately but this one seems to live up to their reputation

I almost forgot RAW was on XD

What did I miss? 

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Punk came out and basically did the same thing he's been doing. Lights went out, when they came back on Taker was in the ring and attacked Punk. Now Fandango just came out and Jericho attacked him
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#10 jedi_marcos
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I almost forgot RAW was on XD

What did I miss? 

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CM Punk segment on Taker and the streak.Lights go off.Taker appears and goes at it with Punk and flees. And I finally got it,Fandango vs Y2J in a dancing with the stars competition at Mania!Duh! Man I like WWE's ideas.
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#11 pokajabba
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Thanks guys, but why did Jericho attack Fandango? I like how glad I am that I missed that Taker/Punk segment where the lights went out. It really has been done about a billion times :P
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#12 TruthTellers
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Thanks guys, but why did Jericho attack Fandango?pokajabba
Someone obviously didn't watch Smackdown last week.
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#13 pokajabba
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[QUOTE="pokajabba"]Thanks guys, but why did Jericho attack Fandango?TruthTellers
Someone obviously didn't watch Smackdown last week.

Pfffft, sorry but what's that?
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#14 TruthTellers
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Jericho telling Fandango not to say a word and what does he do? Says two.
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#15 pokajabba
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Can somebody explain why Jericho and Ziggler aren't having a match at Wrestlemania again? They just had yet another decent match tonight.

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Somebody explain to me why Jericho and Ziggler aren't having a match at Wrestlemania again? They just had yet another decent match tonight.

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Well partially because Team Hell No is facing Big E/Ziggler at mania for the titles.You can add Y2J to Cesaro/Barrett/Ryder and more to the catering party.
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#17 TruthTellers
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[QUOTE="pokajabba"]

Somebody explain to me why Jericho and Ziggler aren't having a match at Wrestlemania again? They just had yet another decent match tonight.

jedi_marcos
Well partially because Team Hell No is facing Big E/Ziggler at mania for the titles.You can add Y2J to Cesaro/Barrett/Ryder and more to the catering party.

That would be a great undercard match at Wrestlemania: a 6 man ladder match for the Intercontinental Championship between Barrett, Cesaro, Jericho, Ryder, Miz, and Fandango. EDIT: sucks that creative can't think of such things even with 2 weeks left to WM.
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#18 jedi_marcos
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[QUOTE="jedi_marcos"][QUOTE="pokajabba"]

Somebody explain to me why Jericho and Ziggler aren't having a match at Wrestlemania again? They just had yet another decent match tonight.

TruthTellers
Well partially because Team Hell No is facing Big E/Ziggler at mania for the titles.You can add Y2J to Cesaro/Barrett/Ryder and more to the catering party.

That would be a great undercard match at Wrestlemania: a 6 man ladder match for the Intercontinental Championship between Barrett, Cesaro, Jericho, Ryder, Miz, and Fandango. EDIT: sucks that creative can't think of such things even with 2 weeks left to WM.

Dude I would gladly fork over 70 bucks for that match alone.I feel sorry for the wrestlers who aren't part of Mania.At least throw them in a Battle Royal or something,just sad.
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#19 pokajabba
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[QUOTE="pokajabba"]

Somebody explain to me why Jericho and Ziggler aren't having a match at Wrestlemania again? They just had yet another decent match tonight.

jedi_marcos
Well partially because Team Hell No is facing Big E/Ziggler at mania for the titles.You can add Y2J to Cesaro/Barrett/Ryder and more to the catering party.

I suppose I can't complain too much. It's not as though the Tag-Team Championships were considered worthy enough for Wrestlemania, over the past few years. We have Team hell-No to thank for that, since they have helped in making seem like they are worth a damn again. Although, they are still no where near as prestigious as they once were. Maybe WWE actually have something up their sleeve for this match, but I'm glad they are paying it some attention. I still think Jericho vs Ziggler would have been an ideal match for Wrestlemania, though.
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#20 TruthTellers
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I wonder if we'll get to see TGO2's tout tonight...
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#21 pokajabba
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^That would make my day :)
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#22 JML897
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Wade Barrett just got kicked in the groin because he had a scheduled match okay then
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#23 pokajabba
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^lol
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#24 TruthTellers
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[QUOTE="JML897"]Wade Barrett just got kicked in the groin because he had a scheduled match okay then

Triple H was showing the kids how to B A Star
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#25 pokajabba
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[QUOTE="TruthTellers"][QUOTE="JML897"]Wade Barrett just got kicked in the groin because he had a scheduled match okay then

Triple H was showing the kids how to B A Star

No, no. It was a subliminal message from Triple H, telling everyone to 'Stand Up For WWE'.
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#26 jedi_marcos
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So tonight's closing is a QA Panel.What the hell is this?Comic Con?Ahhh. Side note:Really miss Christian.Dude should be at WM29.
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#27 Full_Metal1923
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Zack Ryder looked so pale. it's kind of disturbing to see him like that. 
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#28 JML897
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Zack Ryder looked so pale. it's kind of disturbing to see him like that. Full_Metal1923
F*ck him and his "push me" trunks.
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#29 pokajabba
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^Woah! Where did the hostility come from? :lol:

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#30 pokajabba
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Weightlifting competition? And they wonder why nobody watches Smackdown :roll:

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#32 JML897
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^Woah! Where did the hostility come from? :lol:

pokajabba
It just bugs me how much he whines about not being pushed.
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#33 Full_Metal1923
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Why isn't AJ vs. Kaitlyn happening at Wrestlemania? (Sorry if the results of the match have already occurred, in Canada we are 15 minutes behind)

I'm guessing it's not going to be a legitmate match, and that it sets up for a Wrestlemania encounter - it's the least the WWE can do for the Divas.  

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#34 JML897
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I'm guessing it's not going to be a legitmate match, and that it sets up for a Wrestlemania encounter - it's the least the WWE can do for the Divas.Full_Metal1923
That's what it seemed like to me.
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#35 pokajabba
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Did The Rock just say, 'Whip your rast'?
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#36 Razor-Lazor
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Don't know why no one on here is talking about it...but that final segment...

I had Raw on all three hours and it seemed like every match was someone who had a match at WrestleMania squashing someone who didn't, and that sucked.

Cena starts off the Q and A with an extremely corny answer, and it was just brutal. But halfway through, his speech about how Rock didn't beat him, HE beat him and admitting that the fans dig deep inside him with their mixed chants...THAT was perfect. He's finally selling Rock's insults correctly: not scared, not smiling, just pissed off.

The Rock was great, too. He seems like a total d*ck going into the match and I think that's what they're going for.

Best Cena promo in months, maybe years. 

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#37 jedi_marcos
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You know your mic work sucks when you have to reference a city's sports team..and yes John it didn't work.Good way to bury yourself yet again. And as far as Ryder goes,he's from New York,fans(Most)like him and would get a better crowd reaction than ^^^^ and yet no match for him.I can see why he's frustrated.He's a local guy and fans like them,it's not hard WWE.....
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#38 pokajabba
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Okay, I did like the segment in the end, but the beginning became very boring after a while. The second half brought the intensity a little more, though. I particularly love how Cena showed signs that The Rock truly does 'get' to him (And the fans), as it helps bring doubt of him winning the match (I'll further explain in a second). They were both on their game with the speeches, but Cena really felt like the desperate man WWE wants us to believe he has become. His speech shows the signs of a broken man who doesn't want to believe that he truly lost the big one, but he comes across as though he knows deep down he might be lying to himself, and might not 'truly' be the best. The actual 'end' should have went down differently, because while Cena brought a good amount of doubt into the match with his speech (Convincing us that The Rock/Fans have gotten to him so much, that he now makes mistakes for the first time in his career), he should have also shown signs of The Rock 'breaking' him further, after The Rock had called him out for their physical battle.

Instead of The Rock doing the 'Rock Bottom', Cena should have become red faced and intense, then proceed to 'AA' (Perhaps even a Rock Bottom) The Rock through the table that the Legends were sitting around. As I said, I think that would have shown Cena being truly effected by The Rock, making it seem that Cena only needs to make 'one' mistake to lose at Wrestlemania (The Rock effected him so much, that he lost his nerve and proceeded to 'AA/Rock Bottom' Rock, through the table). This would help make the match feel a bit more implausible when it comes to who might win.

Still, it was a decent segment for the second half.

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#39 TruthTellers
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Well, in a few months Ryder and Ziggler can go to TNA and tell Vince to f*ck off.
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#40 TruthTellers
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I have no interest in this Rock-Cena feud. It has no redeeming value in it with Rock never being there and Cena being such total sh*t on the mic. Right now Cena looks like a whiny baby when what he should be is a man willing to do ANYTHING to beat Rock even if it means he might have to end The Rock's career in order to do it. If there is any match at Wrestlemania that should be No Holds Barred it's Rock-Cena not HHH-Lesnar. Honestly, what do you people see in this Rock-Cena match? What makes it any different from the first one?
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#41 pokajabba
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It's hasn't got much behind it at all, TruthTellers (Except for a massive paycheck for Vince). I just felt this was the only segment that remotely tried to do anything for the feud/build-up. It gave me an ounce of hope, but I'm pretty sure we all know it will still be forgettable (At least a completely forgettable storyline for this rematch). It's obviously still a terribly built up match, and The Rock really should not be the Champion (In my opinion). I hope Rock/Cena II becomes half the length of their previous match. They should try and go for a Batista/Cena, Rock/Austin (Wrestlemania 15) type of match. I think they are capable of at least pulling that off.

Anyway, the first one will likely be the only one that gets remembered. I see nothing about their second match (Including build up/storyline) that will become memorable at all. Only the match itself remains to be seen. I hope they at least get something decent out of it, but I honestly would prefer a different match altogether.

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This was the first segment in how long that had both in the ring at the same time? What a joke

Swagger & Zeb has gone from talking about racism to picking on RR... Maybe they realized how uncomfortable it was? 

Barrett could be a great main event level wrestler if allowed, I'm really coming to like a lot about him

From WWE title match to Fandango... Why do you come back Y2J?

WM could shape up into the night of Ziggler... He wins the tag titles, cashes in MiTB and AJ wins the Diva title... I'm more excited than I was when AJ exited the ring and mooned the TV

Whoever that guy was in the front row w his headphones on yelling for the Miz and acting like he was hard was a total tool

King referenced the movie "Lincoln" being popular and how it's ironic... What was he talking about?

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#43 Redders1989
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This was the first segment in how long that had both in the ring at the same time?ToTheBank
Old School Raw, about three weeks ago.
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[QUOTE="ToTheBank"]This was the first segment in how long that had both in the ring at the same time?Redders1989
Old School Raw, about three weeks ago.

Last year, people theorized that WWE intentionally had Rock look weak on the mic in order to make Cena look better. Maybe this year they're having him show up less often and never wear the belt in an attempt to make him the bad guy in this feud without actually turning him heel. He hasn't brought the WWE Title anywhere.
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#45 JML897
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King referenced the movie "Lincoln" being popular and how it's ironic... What was he talking about?ToTheBank
He said it was ironic that Lincoln was doing well in theaters because Lincoln was killed in a theater.
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#46 TruthTellers
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[QUOTE="ToTheBank"]King referenced the movie "Lincoln" being popular and how it's ironic... What was he talking about?JML897
He said it was ironic that Lincoln was doing well in theaters because Lincoln was killed in a theater.

Lawler should apologize to the Lincoln family. Absolutely unacceptable behavior from a man who almost died in September.
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#47 mrgab
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Hmm official heel turn for Cena? Called the Rocks move stupid. Whined about losing. Didnt toss his hat or shirt to the audience...
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#48 jedi_marcos
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Interesting points you guys all make... First off,John Cena can't sell a pissed off look.Im not buying it.Second,I think most real fans didn't want his match,heck I think nobody asked for this match except for the Teen fans of Cena wanting a rematch.Its an escape plan for the WWE which is stupid.CM Punk vs Taker IMO is the Main Event,not this.They do this every time,they kill something great.This match already happened so let it be,but no. Third,a heel Cena will not work.I could write a 10 page paper on all the things he needs to work on and still not pull it off properly.A heel turn is also too late IMO,how old is he?Last note;What does that do?I highly doubt it will win hardcore fans. Fourth;I never liked Cole or Lawler as commentators.Give me JR,JBL,Josh,or Booker.There are a lot of great announcers out there,not sure why they have to deal with this.Im glad I know Spanish as I listen to them(Spanish announcers) as well,and they're also terrible(Well only one guy) Last thing;Does anybody see WWE losing its touch on Promos and Posters?The promos(Videos Packages) on the matches are pretty bad,and the recent PPV posters are just as bad.(Dont even look at the Extreme Rules/Payback posters)I remember the Taker/HHH vids and those were legendary. I'm done for today.
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#49 The_Great_One2
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That was the best final segment I've seen in a loooooooooooong time. Rock and Cena were perfect and I loved the physical altercation. If you're not excited for this match don't call yourself a WRESTLING fan.

I keep thinking HHH/Brock is going to be the best match of the night. HHH has been training like a beast for this match. He's been tweeting pics of himself working out at midnight and he looks JACKED. Working out at that time of night is DEDICATION. Him and Brock are just going to beat the **** out of each other. No DQ with Haitch's career on the line will only add to intensity.

Am I the only one who just has NO interest in Taker/Punk? Right about now they could throw this match on the preshow and I wouldn't even blink. Taker only has a few matches left in him and this seems like a complete WASTE. I would have rather him take this Mania off and come back next year for Cena, Brock, or HHH IV.

#TGO2forOfficer

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#50 pokajabba
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You know what I realized could be happening with this lackluster build-up? Vince might be cashing on the cheapest/easiest matches possible, just because of the failed senate campaign for Linda (Since they spent a lot of money on it). What better way to get your money back, than by not investing much into the build-up to Wrestlemania (And putting matches on the card that will certainly make a load of money, regardless of how well they are built - Rock/Cena II, HHH/Brock, Taker/Punk)?

Obviously I doubt this is actually the reason, but at least it's 'A' reason. I'd like to think there is 'something' behind why this Wrestlemania's build-up has been so weak (Wrestlemania itself might be amazing, you never know?)