Who do you feel needs the biggest push in the wwe/tna?

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#1 Ryder_4_Life
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I think that kane needs to be pushed for at least a wwe championship reign for more than one night. what about you guys?
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#2 sephy37
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kane i think, more than anyone has put up with TERRIBLE storylines.

but i think sabin needs a good push. even tho he's in the super x tourny, i think he'll end up losing to samoa joe in the second round who will then go on to probably beat a.j. styles cuz samoa joe is getting a pretty decent push as a heel now. but i will be rooting for styles, hopefully he will get a good feud going after Sacrifice.

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#3 Biggestgeekever
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My top 3 contenders (In order) are:

  1. Rob Van Dam
  2. Kane
  3. Shelton Benjamin
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#4 Ryder_4_Life
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kane i think, more than anyone has put up with TERRIBLE storylines.

but i think sabin needs a good push. even tho he's in the super x tourny, i think he'll end up losing to samoa joe in the second round who will then go on to probably beat a.j. styles cuz samoa joe is getting a pretty decent push as a heel now. but i will be rooting for styles, hopefully he will get a good feud going after Sacrifice.

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do you think TNA pushes people better and utilizes talent alot better than WWE?

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#5 sephy37
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  1. Rob Van Dam

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i forgot about him. i hope he's given a good push too. he's been in main event matches before in the wwe (EC 1) and hasn't disappointed me as a fan yet.

also for shelton, i think he's fine where he is now. feuding with carlito is really good. carlito is very charismatic on the mic, something shelton isn't, and it could benefit shelton if he got on the mic once in awhile. shelton isn't main even caliber yet, i'm guessing next year or so he will get a main event push. even tho i think he isn't a main eventer yet, he would have been a better main eventer than say, orton. i think he should beat carlito at summerslam and then go into a feud with rvd (i would love to see that) and that will leave a free up carlito so he can feud with jericho. whom i hope isn't the only contestant in the raw main event (maybe cena vs. jericho vs. edge vs. kane vs. whoever)

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1)Paul London
2) Rene Dupree
3)Victoria
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#7 sephy37
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[QUOTE="sephy37"]

kane i think, more than anyone has put up with TERRIBLE storylines.

but i think sabin needs a good push. even tho he's in the super x tourny, i think he'll end up losing to samoa joe in the second round who will then go on to probably beat a.j. styles cuz samoa joe is getting a pretty decent push as a heel now. but i will be rooting for styles, hopefully he will get a good feud going after Sacrifice.

Ryder_4_Life

do you think TNA pushes people better and utilizes talent alot better than WWE?

well tna is less story driven then TNA. they like to give their fans great matches and usually never disappoint with the x division. i think letting their wrestlers prove themselves to the crowd as wrestlers is a lot better than putting them in crappy storylines. it's like ECW, the fans are a big part. there are a lot of "TNA", "this match rules", and "holy ****" chants.

most of the time when guys feud, they will cut very few promos, interfere in their opponents match on impact! or wrestle them a few times, instead of 1 match at the ppv. a.j styles feuded with christopher daniels for a few months and put on incredible matches together like their ironman match and impact! matches and was concluded in an AMAZING ultimate x match which daniels won.

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#8 Biggestgeekever
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[QUOTE="Biggestgeekever"]
  1. Rob Van Dam

sephy37

i forgot about him. i hope he's given a good push too. he's been in main event matches before in the wwe (EC 1) and hasn't disappointed me as a fan yet.

also for shelton, i think he's fine where he is now. feuding with carlito is really good. carlito is very charismatic on the mic, something shelton isn't, and it could benefit shelton if he got on the mic once in awhile. shelton isn't main even caliber yet, i'm guessing next year or so he will get a main event push. even tho i think he isn't a main eventer yet, he would have been a better main eventer than say, orton. i think he should beat carlito at summerslam and then go into a feud with rvd (i would love to see that) and that will leave a free up carlito so he can feud with jericho. whom i hope isn't the only contestant in the raw main event (maybe cena vs. jericho vs. edge vs. kane vs. whoever)

That's a very good idea. I like the way you think. BTW, i'm still holding out for an EC at summerslam. I'm hoping for those guys you mentioned vs. Kurt Angle vs. Shelton (who wouldn't win, but i know could do some crazy **** inside the chamber).

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#9 sephy37
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[QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="Biggestgeekever"]
  1. Rob Van Dam

Biggestgeekever

i forgot about him. i hope he's given a good push too. he's been in main event matches before in the wwe (EC 1) and hasn't disappointed me as a fan yet.

also for shelton, i think he's fine where he is now. feuding with carlito is really good. carlito is very charismatic on the mic, something shelton isn't, and it could benefit shelton if he got on the mic once in awhile. shelton isn't main even caliber yet, i'm guessing next year or so he will get a main event push. even tho i think he isn't a main eventer yet, he would have been a better main eventer than say, orton. i think he should beat carlito at summerslam and then go into a feud with rvd (i would love to see that) and that will leave a free up carlito so he can feud with jericho. whom i hope isn't the only contestant in the raw main event (maybe cena vs. jericho vs. edge vs. kane vs. whoever)

That's a very good idea. I like the way you think. BTW, i'm still holding out for an EC at summerslam. I'm hoping for those guys you mentioned vs. Kurt Angle vs. Shelton (who wouldn't win, but i know could do some crazy **** inside the chamber).

i forgot angle, but knowing what happened with eugene, i can just imagine how bad eugene vs. angle will be. or maybe nick dinsmore will TRY and put on a good match like he used to and have a great technical match with angle.

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#10 sephy37
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Summerslam 2005

what i want to see as the main events:

raw: TLC, edge, jericho, cena, rvd, hbk, (i wish christian), kurt angle, shelton benjamin, and....kerwin white!!!!

ok seriously tho, all of them except chavo would be great! we all know edge, jericho and rvd are amazing in any match they put on. hbk was the first ever ladder participant, and he and angle always put on the best matches. shelton has really proved himself not only as a great in ring wrestler, but he can do some amazing bumps and huge spots like in the money in the bank match. cena....he can just ride on all of their coattails, hopefully he'll improve his in ring ability.

kerwin white could do commentary about how he loves his new ford pickup and how his golden retriever can sit and speak. oh and how he bought a nice pair of khakis at the gap for $10.95 last week.

smackdown!: ELIMINATION CHAMBER, batista, lesnar, eddie guerrero, rey mysterio, benoit, christian, paul london

i really wanted to add the mexicools, but 10 people is too many :S. but the match would be great. i think everyone on here KNOWS london is the best talent the wwe has right now that isn't being fully utilized. benoit always puts on great matches. christian is like edge, jericho and shelton, he always has good matches. the rest would add a lot to the match too. the only problem is that i hate batista and not sure if lesnar would work well with the rest of them.

edit: sorry if this is off topic in this thread, but since we were talking about main events and summerslam, thought i'd throw in this food for thought.

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Summerslam 2005

what i want to see as the main events:

raw: TLC, edge, jericho, cena, rvd, hbk, (i wish christian), kurt angle, shelton benjamin, and....kerwin white!!!!

ok seriously tho, all of them except chavo would be great! we all know edge, jericho and rvd are amazing in any match they put on. hbk was the first ever ladder participant, and he and angle always put on the best matches. shelton has really proved himself not only as a great in ring wrestler, but he can do some amazing bumps and huge spots like in the money in the bank match. cena....he can just ride on all of their coattails, hopefully he'll improve his in ring ability.

kerwin white could do commentary about how he loves his new ford pickup and how his golden retriever can sit and speak. oh and how he bought a nice pair of khakis at the gap for $10.95 last week.

smackdown!: ELIMINATION CHAMBER, batista, lesnar, eddie guerrero, rey mysterio, benoit, christian, paul london

i really wanted to add the mexicools, but 10 people is too many :S. but the match would be great. i think everyone on here KNOWS london is the best talent the wwe has right now that isn't being fully utilized. benoit always puts on great matches. christian is like edge, jericho and shelton, he always has good matches. the rest would add a lot to the match too. the only problem is that i hate batista and not sure if lesnar would work well with the rest of them.

sephy37

Too bad it aint gonna be happening that way. they would sell so many more tickets with those kind of main events.

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Summerslam 2005

what i want to see as the main events:

raw: TLC, edge, jericho, cena, rvd, hbk, (i wish christian), kurt angle, shelton benjamin, and....kerwin white!!!!

ok seriously tho, all of them except chavo would be great! we all know edge, jericho and rvd are amazing in any match they put on. hbk was the first ever ladder participant, and he and angle always put on the best matches. shelton has really proved himself not only as a great in ring wrestler, but he can do some amazing bumps and huge spots like in the money in the bank match. cena....he can just ride on all of their coattails, hopefully he'll improve his in ring ability.

kerwin white could do commentary about how he loves his new ford pickup and how his golden retriever can sit and speak. oh and how he bought a nice pair of khakis at the gap for $10.95 last week.

smackdown!: ELIMINATION CHAMBER, batista, lesnar, eddie guerrero, rey mysterio, benoit, christian, paul london

i really wanted to add the mexicools, but 10 people is too many :S. but the match would be great. i think everyone on here KNOWS london is the best talent the wwe has right now that isn't being fully utilized. benoit always puts on great matches. christian is like edge, jericho and shelton, he always has good matches. the rest would add a lot to the match too. the only problem is that i hate batista and not sure if lesnar would work well with the rest of them.

edit: sorry if this is off topic in this thread, but since we were talking about main events and summerslam, thought i'd throw in this food for thought.

sephy37

The WWE should hire us. We could make the best PPV the industry has ever seen and the rating would double.

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#13 sephy37
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The WWE should hire us. We could make the best PPV the industry has ever seen and the rating would double.

Biggestgeekever

hahaha, we should. i can just imagine what the ratings would be when real fans write the storyline. hell, we should even fire and hire who we want.

goodbye bob holly!

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well tna is less story driven then TNA. they like to give their fans great matches and usually never disappoint with the x division. i think letting their wrestlers prove themselves to the crowd as wrestlers is a lot better than putting them in crappy storylines. it's like ECW, the fans are a big part. there are a lot of "TNA", "this match rules", and "holy ****" chants.

most of the time when guys feud, they will cut very few promos, interfere in their opponents match on impact! or wrestle them a few times, instead of 1 match at the ppv. a.j styles feuded with christopher daniels for a few months and put on incredible matches together like their ironman match and impact! matches and was concluded in an AMAZING ultimate x match which daniels won.

sephy37


exactly why i love TNA. its not a damn soap opera.
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[QUOTE="Biggestgeekever"]

The WWE should hire us. We could make the best PPV the industry has ever seen and the rating would double.

sephy37

hahaha, we should. i can just imagine what the ratings would be when real fans write the storyline. hell, we should even fire and hire who we want.

goodbye bob holly!

LOL!! If i was a writer for the WWE i would put these matches on Summerslam:

6 Man Hell in a Cell - Batista, JBL, Undertaker, Randy Orton, Lesnar, and Christian. Lesnar the winner.

Elimination Chamber - John Cena vs Y2J vs HHH vs Shelton Benjamin vs RVD vs Carlito. A shocker of RVD winning!!

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[QUOTE="Ryder_4_Life"]

do you think TNA pushes people better and utilizes talent alot better than WWE?

sephy37

well tna is less story driven then TNA. they like to give their fans great matches and usually never disappoint with the x division. i think letting their wrestlers prove themselves to the crowd as wrestlers is a lot better than putting them in crappy storylines. it's like ECW, the fans are a big part. there are a lot of "TNA", "this match rules", and "holy ****" chants.

most of the time when guys feud, they will cut very few promos, interfere in their opponents match on impact! or wrestle them a few times, instead of 1 match at the ppv. a.j styles feuded with christopher daniels for a few months and put on incredible matches together like their ironman match and impact! matches and was concluded in an AMAZING ultimate x match which daniels won.

While TNA does utilize people better than WWE, they also suffer several of the same pitfalls. Lets not forget, while Impact was on FSN, there were only two weeks in which the TNA Champ was not Jeff Jarrett.

However, they also are better at playing to the strengths of their talent. For example, Samoa Joe is already getting over in TNA and he hasn't spoken a word, they are treating him as a big deal, and letting him display what makes him awesome. I can only imagine the stupid gimmick Joe would have in WWE by now.

Better? Yes, Perfect? Far from it.

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#17 Biggestgeekever
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Do you think i should do a "Let's create a PPV" thread?

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#18 sephy37
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Do you think i should do a "Let's create a PPV" thread?

Biggestgeekever

no, we should just have a "creat a *blank* thread"

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#19 Chicago_Nut
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Do you think i should do a "Let's create a PPV" thread?

Biggestgeekever
That would put our imaginations at work!!!!! I would like that.
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As for who needs the biggest push... Gene Snitzky.

Of course, I'm kidding. Anyone who can't figure out that I'm going to say RVD obviously isn't paying attention.

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#21 sephy37
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As for who needs the biggest push... Gene Snitzky.

Of course, I'm kidding. Anyone who can't figure out that I'm going to say RVD obviously isn't paying attention.

The_Dude14

haha, they should push him. but have him going around and knocking things over and then look at the camera and then say in a playful voice "it wasn't my fault" and then shrug his shoulders and give the camera a sad look. hey! it's better than him wrestling.

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#22 Biggestgeekever
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[QUOTE="Biggestgeekever"]

Do you think i should do a "Let's create a PPV" thread?

Chicago_Nut

That would put our imaginations at work!!!!! I would like that.

I think I'll do that tommorow so more people will be on. BTW, Dude, is it alright if i do this thread?

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#23 Chicago_Nut
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[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]

As for who needs the biggest push... Gene Snitzky.

Of course, I'm kidding. Anyone who can't figure out that I'm going to say RVD obviously isn't paying attention.

sephy37

haha, they should push him. but have him going around and knocking things over and then look at the camera and then say in a playful voice "it wasn't my fault" and then shrug his shoulders and give the camera a sad look. hey! it's better than him wrestling.

The sounds go MWA MWA MWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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#24 sephy37
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[QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="The_Dude14"]

As for who needs the biggest push... Gene Snitzky.

Of course, I'm kidding. Anyone who can't figure out that I'm going to say RVD obviously isn't paying attention.

Chicago_Nut

haha, they should push him. but have him going around and knocking things over and then look at the camera and then say in a playful voice "it wasn't my fault" and then shrug his shoulders and give the camera a sad look. hey! it's better than him wrestling.

The sounds go MWA MWA MWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

i think we're on the same page :D

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#25 The_Dude14
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[QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"][QUOTE="Biggestgeekever"]

Do you think i should do a "Let's create a PPV" thread?

Biggestgeekever

That would put our imaginations at work!!!!! I would like that.

I think I'll do that tommorow so more people will be on. BTW, Dude, is it alright if i do this thread?

Hey, it sounds like a great thread idea to me! I certainly won't lock it.
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#26 Biggestgeekever
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[QUOTE="Biggestgeekever"][QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"][QUOTE="Biggestgeekever"]

Do you think i should do a "Let's create a PPV" thread?

The_Dude14

That would put our imaginations at work!!!!! I would like that.

I think I'll do that tommorow so more people will be on. BTW, Dude, is it alright if i do this thread?

Hey, it sounds like a great thread idea to me! I certainly won't lock it.

That good news. Now to get back on-topic. Another person who needs a boost is Benoit, he way past going for the US title and fueding with OJ.

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#27 Link256
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RVD: the greatest superstar never to win the World Championship; enough said!

For those who said Shelton Benjamin, I disagree! He is moving along at the right pace as it is and does not need to be pushed to fast IMHO. I have seen what happens when someone gets pushed too fast and it usuall does a lot more harm, than good IMHO. Shelton Benjamin is moving at the right pace IMHO.

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#28 dRehkJY
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Christian and RVD. These guys have the potential to be World champions but they are underutilised
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Orton, Kane and Christian, big time!
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#30 -RKO
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Christian and RVD. These guys have the potential to be World champions but they are underutiliseddRehkJY
Honestly please tellme how Christian could be World Champ? Sure he is a great wrestler but hes not really honestly at World Champion level. Maybe in a few years but not yet.
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[QUOTE="dRehkJY"]Christian and RVD. These guys have the potential to be World champions but they are underutilised-RKO
Honestly please tellme how Christian could be World Champ? Sure he is a great wrestler but hes not really honestly at World Champion level. Maybe in a few years but not yet.



Christian is a 10+ year veteren(sp?) its his time to shine.
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#32 -RKO
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[QUOTE="-RKO"][QUOTE="dRehkJY"]Christian and RVD. These guys have the potential to be World champions but they are underutilisedkeiblerfan69
Honestly please tellme how Christian could be World Champ? Sure he is a great wrestler but hes not really honestly at World Champion level. Maybe in a few years but not yet.



Christian is a 10+ year veteren(sp?) its his time to shine.

Is he really 10+? Are you sure? He entered the WWE in 97 or 98 I thought. I still dont think hes world champion caliber.
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[QUOTE="keiblerfan69"][QUOTE="-RKO"][QUOTE="dRehkJY"]Christian and RVD. These guys have the potential to be World champions but they are underutilised-RKO
Honestly please tellme how Christian could be World Champ? Sure he is a great wrestler but hes not really honestly at World Champion level. Maybe in a few years but not yet.



Christian is a 10+ year veteren(sp?) its his time to shine.

Is he really 10+? Are you sure? He entered the WWE in 97 or 98 I thought. I still dont think hes world champion caliber.



just because he hasnt been in WWE/F for 10 years doesnt mean he hasnt been around for 10 years. he did all kinds of wrestling before going pro
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#34 -RKO
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[QUOTE="-RKO"][QUOTE="keiblerfan69"][QUOTE="-RKO"][QUOTE="dRehkJY"]Christian and RVD. These guys have the potential to be World champions but they are underutilisedkeiblerfan69
Honestly please tellme how Christian could be World Champ? Sure he is a great wrestler but hes not really honestly at World Champion level. Maybe in a few years but not yet.



Christian is a 10+ year veteren(sp?) its his time to shine.

Is he really 10+? Are you sure? He entered the WWE in 97 or 98 I thought. I still dont think hes world champion caliber.



just because he hasnt been in WWE/F for 10 years doesnt mean he hasnt been around for 10 years. he did all kinds of wrestling before going pro

Ya but since it wasnt in WWE it doesnt matter right now. Indie league wrestling wont look great on a WWE resume. :P
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Kane and Undertaker. They both r amazing and should get some title shots
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#36 shoot_em_up123
Member since 2004 • 11074 Posts
[QUOTE="sephy37"]

kane i think, more than anyone has put up with TERRIBLE storylines.

but i think sabin needs a good push. even tho he's in the super x tourny, i think he'll end up losing to samoa joe in the second round who will then go on to probably beat a.j. styles cuz samoa joe is getting a pretty decent push as a heel now. but i will be rooting for styles, hopefully he will get a good feud going after Sacrifice.

Ryder_4_Life

do you think TNA pushes people better and utilizes talent alot better than WWE?

They do. Like someone will be going for the X Division Title and then 2 weeks later go after the World Title.