WWE SummerSlam Discussions Thread - August 26, 2007

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#1 Jackov
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WWE Championship
John Cena vs. Randy Orton


Triple H vs. King Booker


World Heavyweight Championship
The Great Khali vs. Batista


Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero


ECW World Championship
John Morrison vs. CM Punk


Intercontinental Championship
Mr. Kennedy vs. Umaga vs. Carlito


Finlay vs. Kane


Divas Battle Royal



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It's WWE's Biggest Party of the Summer! Discuss your thoughts and predictions about this upcoming tradition.

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#2 pariahmap
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so now that the terrible Lashley/Cena thing is done with (thank god)

Orton/Cena

Please Please Please Orton win :x

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#3 tman93
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I might watch this one.
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#4 nsoliveira
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I just don't get it! Why everyone hates Cena?! I like Cena a lot! Sounds like I'm the only Cena fan here.:cry::cry:
Anyway Triple H will return to the ring at Summerslam! Can't wait!:D
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#5 Dark_Hylian8
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i think triple h is gonna show up at raw next week
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#7 Link256
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Remember folks, its Randy Orton's desnity to be champion.
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#8 The_Dude14
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I just don't get it! Why everyone hates Cena?! I like Cena a lot! Sounds like I'm the only Cena fan here.:cry::cry:nsoliveira
We aren't even half as bad about it as we were a year and a half ago.A lot of us have changed our opinions on him and I expect more to come around if he wasn'tthe apparent "champion for life." Most of the lingering hatred is due to the fact that outside of about three combined months, he's been the champion for the last two years. IMO, losing to Orton would be better for Cena than winning.
Anyway Triple H will return to the ring at Summerslam! Can't wait!:Dnsoliveira
I really wish people would stop reminding me. Its depressing.
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#9 Total-KO
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I really wish people would stop reminding me. Its depressing.The_Dude14

May I ask what your vendetta against Triple H boils down to?

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#10 trick_man01
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I hope the match ends with an FU reversed into an RKO. In my head it works alright but I'm not sure how it would work if they actually tried it.
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[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]I really wish people would stop reminding me. Its depressing.Total-KO

May I ask what your vendetta against Triple H boils down to?

Dude may correct me if I'm wrong here, but I do believe it stems from the fact that he's obviously used his influence within the company in years past to get himself atop the championship ladder, and then stay there for months and months on end. If you notice, nobody was really champion on Raw for longer than a couple months before Trips came back in and got the belt back. So it's that, and also the fact that deep down inside, Dude is a little envious of Trips cause he'd like to have his life (I seem to remember him saying something along these lines once).

Anyway, back to the matter of SummerSlam, while my resentment towards Cena has definitely gone down over the past years of being exposed to him non-stop, I do believe that Orton should win the title. Looking at the way Orton has been booked over the past couple of months, he's really been on a tear and just ripping through basically anyone in his way. To have him come in against Cena and lose would make it seem like RVD and HBK are guys that just aren't in Cena's league, which is safe to say is completely untrue.

Still though, with Cena's back constantly against the wall and his 'overcoming of the odds' always looming around the corner, it's not completely out of the question that he'll beat Orton.

I'm really hoping that WWE doesn't bog down this ppv with tons of matches, so that way more than just 2 matches on the card (ideally the WWE and IC Title matches) will go longer than 15 minutes. Orton and Cena have the potential to have a really good match given the proper amount of time to build up to big moments.

I'm fairly certain that I won't be shelling out the money to buy this ppv, but depending on what matches get added to the card in the coming weeks, I might find myself at a friend's house/sports bar to watch the show.

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[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]I really wish people would stop reminding me. Its depressing.Total-KO
May I ask what your vendetta against Triple H boils down to?

If I wanted to go into detail, it could take a while and I wouldn't even go into the backstage stuff, because I have no proof for those, just a lot of numbers, coincidence and conjecture. It has to due with going from one of my favorite wrestlers in the worldfrom 98-2000 to the most boring, overexposed, overrated wrestler in the WWE. From Unforgiven 2002 to Vengeance 2005, I can recall one Raw main event that didn't involve Triple H, no matter if he was injured and wasn't on TV for the two months leading to a PPV or even the champion. And there were quite a few flat out embarrassing performances on that road and countless hours of sleep-inducing promos. There's also the fact that I have to go back years to name what I'd call a great Triple H match. At this point, I think I have seen literally everything Triple H has to offer in the ring and I don't anticipate, after a major surgery on his other leg, that he's going to be getting any faster.

Say what you will about Cena's Reign of Terror, at least he has been consistently improving and ifhe's not faced with a complimentary opponent, he doesn't phone it in.

Dude is a little envious of Trips cause he'd like to have his life (I seem to remember him saying something along these lines once).DirtyDarren
There is more than a little truth to that.

Still though, with Cena's back constantly against the wall and his 'overcoming of the odds' always looming around the corner, it's not completely out of the question that he'll beat Orton

I'm really hoping that WWE doesn't bog down this ppv with tons of matches, so that way more than just 2 matches on the card (ideally the WWE and IC Title matches) will go longer than 15 minutes. Orton and Cena have the potential to have a really good match given the proper amount of time to build up to big moments.

I'm fairly certain that I won't be shelling out the money to buy this ppv, but depending on what matches get added to the card in the coming weeks, I might find myself at a friend's house/sports bar to watch the show.DirtyDarren

My outlook on this PPV improved tremendously when its confirmation that Jackass isn't going to be involved.

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#13 nsoliveira
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I hope that Cena beats the hell out of Orton, Orton's destiny is to lose.
If Orton wins I'll be shocked, but no matter HHH will go after the title after the Orton/Cena battle.
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#14 Dice2434
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Nothing against Cena but i hope Orton finally wins the belt. There is more money having a baby face chase a heel for the belt any way.( Besides i am a little bias cause i am an orton fan) and yes thank god the jackass crew is gone it frees up umaga to fight ardy again, and if anyone is over enough to beat umaga its hardy. Now to teh HHH deal, its seems that they are building up a thing with King booker. which could be good but we all now that it is punishment for booker after the thing he pulled in his promotion in texas, being fed to HHH for his comeback. As for HHH being in the title hunt i dont think we will see that till WM24, especially if Orton wins the belt and keeps it for awhile.
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I also think that Orton should win the WWE Championship from Cena for a few reasons, 1) Cen a has held that championship for almost a year, actully it will be a year on September 16th, he will have held for a whole year, and the very next day it will be Unforgivin on the 17th, 2) Cena need to lose it to someone WWE fans wouldn't expect, and from what I know Cena has never face Orton for the Championship one-on-one, 3) With orton haveing the Championship, makes Cena get boo'ed less, and there then would be more heat on Orton which of course is a good thing for Cena.

All I'm saying is Cena needs to lose the WWE Championship just so WWE fans will stop hateing him, that is the last thing WWE wants to have is thier top superstar to be boo'ed, so in the long run Cena will of course win the WWE Championship back sooner than later, just not after Orton beats him, and if anything WWE will have Cena be somewhat pushed to the side so HHH can win the Championship from Orton IMO, but who knows this is WWE and they change plan so ofton.

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#16 King_ofhearts
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Orton for Champ at Summerslam baby and return of the King of Kings baby summerslam is already looking up I hope they dnt ruin it
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#17 wwe4ever_in05
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Orton for Champ at Summerslam baby and return of the King of Kings baby summerslam is already looking up I hope they dnt ruin itKing_ofhearts

I know for a fact that WWE didn't screw this PPV up just 'cause the Jackass crew Vs. Umaga is out of the PPV, and yeah that would of brought in some PPV buys but not as much as WWE would think so, IMO WWE did the right thing.

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#18 SaintBlaze
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I hope Orton wins. In my eyes John Cena is horrible. He's had a few good matches here and there but he's been champ far too long.
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#19 -Karmum-
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I don't like the new poster, or the new tagline with it.

"The Party is Over."

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#20 wwe4ever_in05
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I don't like the new poster, or the new tagline with it.

"The Party is Over."

-Karmum-

At least it has Triple H on it.

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#21 -Karmum-
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[QUOTE="-Karmum-"]

I don't like the new poster, or the new tagline with it.

"The Party is Over."

wwe4ever_in05

At least it has Triple H on it.

I suppose, did anybody notice what he is wearing? Appears to be a Terminator costume. :lol:

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#22 wwe4ever_in05
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[QUOTE="wwe4ever_in05"][QUOTE="-Karmum-"]

I don't like the new poster, or the new tagline with it.

"The Party is Over."

-Karmum-

At least it has Triple H on it.

I suppose, did anybody notice what he is wearing? Appears to be a Terminator costume. :lol:

Oh boy sounds like lots of fun on the way to Summerslam.

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#23 Dice2434
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I dont mind the new poster but i dont get it. I know HHH is comeing back, but seriously hes proly goin to face booker. To me its really not main event status. So how you going to dog both Cena and Orton who are main eventers for this ppv. just doesnt make sense.
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#24 mja2k3
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Anybody else not like the choice for the cong this year. Wow whenever I hear that song on the radio it gives me a headache, now i gotta listen to it every Summerslam promo.
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#25 Jackov
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Anybody else not like the choice for the cong this year. Wow whenever I hear that song on the radio it gives me a headache, now i gotta listen to it every Summerslam promo.mja2k3

You're gonna have'ta listen to that near the beginning of every one of my DOR 2 SummerSlam sim matches. :P

(Orton vs. Cena's already done. ;))

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#26 AvengeMeCortex
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i wonder if they will add carlito to the wwe title match since lashley was put out officially basically this week and they had cena job to him, or they have him and kennedy face umaga because umaga turned babyface yesterday
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#27 Sponge_Fighter2
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Please WWE let Orton be the new champ.

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#28 BadMrSnake
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Rumour is that Cena is dropping the belt at Summerslam because he's taking several months off to do a movie!
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#29 trick_man01
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Rumour is that Cena is dropping the belt at Summerslam because he's taking several months off to do a movie!BadMrSnake
If that's true I'm sure he will be "concussed" by Orton.
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#30 wwe4ever_in05
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I dont mind the new poster but i dont get it. I know HHH is comeing back, but seriously hes proly goin to face booker. To me its really not main event status. So how you going to dog both Cena and Orton who are main eventers for this ppv. just doesnt make sense.Dice2434

The main reason why WWE has Tripl H on the front is 'cause Triple H is a big pull IMO, and the fact that Triple H will be coming back at this PPV, will help WWE get this PPV a higher buy rate too.

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I hope that I can see Randy Orton as the new champ at the end of Summerslam, I also want to see John Cena with a concussion, so John Cena would be out for a couple of months and every WWE fan can have a break of watching him presumming his WWE Title and his phrases like "The champ is here" things that make me so angry every show. But if Randy Orton fails at Summerslam I hope Triple H "THE KING OF KINGS" get the job done. But I think Triple H is going to have some kind of rivalry with King Booker before he can put his hands on Cena, if he is still the champ; there can only be one KING in the WWE and thats Triple H for sure...and maybe King Lawler, but not Booker.

Another thing I would like for Summerslam is that the WWE stop setting World Heavyweight Championships for Batista is enough, when Edge won their latest match I was so happy because he would not challenge anymore, but now that Edge has given up his title and Khali is the new champ, Is there another challenger for the championship instead of Batista? What about Undertaker?

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#32 BadMrSnake
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I think that is why they gave the belt to Khali. He will be a worthy opponent to drop it to Taker once he is healthy.
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I hope that I can see Randy Orton as the new champ at the end of Summerslam, I also want to see John Cena with a concussion darkgamex2k

now Darkgamex2k has the right idea but i think i Concussion is 2 little i wana see i legit leg/arm(or neck) brake so he is out 4 at least 6 months or (if i get my way) for ever :evil:

and yes i am being Serious

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#34 wwe4ever_in05
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Chavo Vs. Rey Mysterio and The Ungreat Khali Vs. Batista for the World Heavyweight Championship.

I just hope that Khali doesn't hold it forever and I also think that The Undertaker is going to be the one to beat Khali at some big PPV maybe Royal Rumble or Survivor Series, and Batista does need to be givin a different feud like after MVP loses the US Championship to Matt Hardy or who ever then have Batista MVP to face, so that then MVP can learn how to be better then he is now.

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#35 keiblerfan69
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I think they have be building Orton enough and its time for him to have another shot. Besides why not? I mean the fans love Cena chasing the title just as much as when he has it.
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#36 lilhbk
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[QUOTE="darkgamex2k"]


I hope that I can see Randy Orton as the new champ at the end of Summerslam, I also want to see John Cena with a concussion pariahmap

now Darkgamex2k has the right idea but i think i Concussion is 2 little i wana see i legit leg/arm(or neck) brake so he is out 4 at least 6 months or (if i get my way) for ever :evil:

and yes i am being Serious

thats too much IMO..just a "concussion" woud do fine.
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#37 Jackov
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Added 3 new matches, plus a match banner change.
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#38 trick_man01
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[QUOTE="darkgamex2k"]


I hope that I can see Randy Orton as the new champ at the end of Summerslam, I also want to see John Cena with a concussion pariahmap

now Darkgamex2k has the right idea but i think i Concussion is 2 little i wana see i legit leg/arm(or neck) brake so he is out 4 at least 6 months or (if i get my way) for ever :evil:

and yes i am being Serious

That's just heartless.
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#39 General_Slaye
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I hope the match ends with an FU reversed into an RKO. In my head it works alright but I'm not sure how it would work if they actually tried it.trick_man01

Doubt it... I had the same kind of hope when it was coming towards John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels at WM23. I reckon that Randy Orton will somehow get trapped in the STFU and will tap out!

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I think it will go two ways:
1. He does the FU, but Ortan lands on his feet and RKOS.

2. He goes for RKO, but Cena does the ol RKO push Randy to ropes then FU or STFU, or both.

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#41 General_Slaye
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I think it will go two ways:
1. He does the FU, but Ortan lands on his feet and RKOS.

2. He goes for RKO, but Cena does the ol RKO push Randy to ropes then FU or STFU, or both.

tman93

Or maybe three ways...

The ref gets knocked out and RandyOrton takes advantage of the situation then all of a sudden, Tripple H comes running in and attacks Orton before giving him a Pedigree! Cena then recovers and takes advantage of the situation by either pinning Orton or executing the FU or STFU just as the ref recovers.

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#42 lilhbk
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or Orton just wins and givescena a concussion. =]
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#43 Dark_Hylian8
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I think that Cena needs to lose cleanly. Randy Orton has earned that much.
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#44 Stargazmo69
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I have yet to see a Kennedy match announced :(
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#45 lilhbk
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there are just like 6 matches announced..right?

correct me if im wrong...or add if i miss something...
Cena vs Orton
Batista vs Khali
Rey vs Chavo
CM Punk vs Morrison

and thats all i knw. :?

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#46 The_Dude14
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there are just like 6 matches announced..right?

correct me if im wrong...or add if i miss something...
Cena vs Orton
Batista vs Khali
Rey vs Chavo
CM Punk vs Morrison

and thats all i knw. :?

lilhbk

And Trips vs Booker. That's all that's official right now to the best of my knowledge.

Carlito vs Umaga and MVP vs Matt also seem likely.

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#47 Mu5uk0
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you know what? this show doesn't look bad at all.

punk/morrison and rey/chavo should be fun.

orton/cena could very possibly deliver.

khali/batista should be... well rey/chavo should be fun.

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#48 mja2k3
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I think that Cena needs to lose cleanly. Randy Orton has earned that much.Dark_Hylian8

Explain to me how he of all people earn that kind of push.

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#49 Total-KO
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[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]I think that Cena needs to lose cleanly. Randy Orton has earned that much.mja2k3

Explain to me how he of all people earn that kind of push.

He put poo in a divas' bag for God's sake, what more evidence do you need!?

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#50 -Karmum-
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[QUOTE="mja2k3"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]I think that Cena needs to lose cleanly. Randy Orton has earned that much.Total-KO

Explain to me how he of all people earn that kind of push.

He put poo in a divas' bag for God's sake, what more evidence do you need!?

Wasn't Orton supposed to be jobbing at this point? Extreme turn of events. Unless you define "jobbing" as losing to Cena. In which case, yes, he is. And the rest of the RAW Roster at this point.