WWE Vengeance Discussion Thread - June 24, 2007

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#101 Jessie_says
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Prediction -

Cena (i hate the most and always does win) to defeat Foley, Orton, Booker T & Lashley and retain the WWE Title

MVP to defeat Ric Flair retain U.S Title

Edge to defeat Batista and retain World Heavyweight Championship and Batista won't get another shot as long as Edge is champ.

Santino Marella to win by DQ against Umaga and retain IC Title

Chris Benoit to defeat CM Punk for the vacant ECW World Title

Murdoch and Cade to defeat The Hardyz and retain World Tag Titles

Candice Michelle to defeat Melina and win the WWE Womens title

Jimmy Wang Yang to defeat Chavo Guerrero and winthe cruiserweight title

And if it is

Deuce and Domino vs. Major Brothers then

D & D to retain.

sdvsraw2007

I agree completely with these results when it comes to reality but when it comes to what i want, i would like Randy orton to win the wwe championship, besides that i dont care what else happens, thats right I'm spending 40 dollars to be disappointed. Wwe4ever, i love how the match card and pictures look. great job.

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#102 EA_GUY
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  • Womens Championship Match
  • Melina (C) vs Candice Michelle

I see Melina winning even though Candice has had a nice push leading up to this match.

  • Cruiserweight title match
  • Chavo(c) vs Jimmy Wang Yang

I see Wang winning this match and becoming new champ.

  • WWE Tag Teamchampionship match
  • Deuce and Domino(C) vs ??

This is a open challenge for the belts most likely the Major Brother will be their opponents since there is basically no other tag team on Smackdown I see D&D winning.

  • World Tag Team Titles Match
  • Cade and Murdoc (C) vs The Hardys

Isn't Matt Hardy on Smackdown right? I don't get why they have the Hardys challenge for the titles when Matt is on Smackdown and Jeff is on Raw. They should of have put the WGTT or London and Kendric in this match rather than the Hardys. I see Cade and Murdoc winning and hopefully after this Jeff and Matt get singles pushes on their brands.

  • US Title Match
  • MVP (C) vs Ric Flair

This should be a great match between these two it nice to see Flair get a title shot and I want him to win but I think MVP will win and still be champ hopefully they will have more matches after this and build a great feud.

  • I.C.Title match
  • Santino Marella(C) vs Umaga

They should have put someone else rather than Umaga as challenger like Carlito but they put Umaga I see Umaga winning and becoming new champ I hope Marella doesn't win I don't like him as champ.

  • For the Vacant ECW Title
  • Chris Benoit vs CM Punk

This should be a great match and most likely will be MOTN I think this match could go either way but I have to go with Beniot even though I am a big CM Punk fan and Punk hasn't been a champ in the WWE I still see Benoit winning.

  • World Heavyweight Title match
  • Edge(C) vs Batista

If Batista doesn't win he will never get another chance to challenge Edge for the title.If you were to ask me pre-draft who would win I would have said easily Edge but now with the lack of depth on smackdown I have to say Batista if he doesn't who else would challenge Edge for the belt Matt Hardy or Flair in my opinion would be the only two I would be shocked and happy if Edge won but I have to go with Batista.

  • WWE Title Match
  • John Cena(C) vs King Booker vs Bobby Lashley vs Randy Orton vs Mick Foley

I think they should have kept out Foley and made it a Fatal-Four way but they put him in I see Cena winning and holding on to the belt until Summerslam even though Orton has had a push for the last couple of months and the ppv is in the King's hometown Houston. I don't see Foley becoming champ and hope Lashley doesn't just because he just came from ECW as champ and don't think he would be a good WWE champ.

Predicted Winners in bold

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#103 wwe4ever_in05
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Doesn't anyone think that Batista will win be DQ and then have a GAB Batista Vs. Rey Mysterio Vs. Edge and have in a Street fight???
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#104 killerband55
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hey, wwe4ever and EA guy, why are u bumping all the pics from the front page onto your post?
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#105 sdvsraw2007
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Prediction -

Cena (i hate the most and always does win) to defeat Foley, Orton, Booker T & Lashley and retain the WWE Title

MVP to defeat Ric Flair retain U.S Title

Edge to defeat Batista and retain World Heavyweight Championship and Batista won't get another shot as long as Edge is champ.

Santino Marella to win by DQ against Umaga and retain IC Title

Chris Benoit to defeat CM Punk for the vacant ECW World Title

Murdoch and Cade to defeat The Hardyz and retain World Tag Titles

Candice Michelle to defeat Melina and win the WWE Womens title

Jimmy Wang Yang to defeat Chavo Guerrero and winthe cruiserweight title

And if it is

Deuce and Domino vs. Major Brothers then

D & D to retain.

Jessie_says

I agree completely with these results when it comes to reality but when it comes to what i want, i would like Randy orton to win the wwe championship, besides that i dont care what else happens, thats right I'm spending 40 dollars to be disappointed. Wwe4ever, i love how the match card and pictures look. great job.

Yeah those were my predictions but what i want is

Edge to win (even though Batista is in my top 5 of fav superstars)

Randy Orton to win (Cena too long as champ and i don't like him, Booker T is a stupid d*ckhea* as the king, Foley is a has-been and Lashley well lashley was just ECW Champ and i am beginning not to like him as well.

Candice Michelle to win (Melina doesn't do much she isn't a very good wrestler, Candice has got better and she is better then Melina in my view but they are still both not that good)

Flair to win (MVP doesn't never put up a challenge to anyone it's always Teddy Long putting him in a match and he ain't really defending it at all so Flair to win coz i know if he did win then he would defend it but i still think MVP will win but i WANT Flair to win.)

And other matches i don't really mind.

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#106 Howell123
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OOHH IT'S ALL KICKING OFF TONIGHT!! WHOOOO!
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#107 DDTFan
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i want orton to win the wwe title
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#108 killerband55
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well anyway, here are my predictions on who wins:

-John Cena, Chris Benoit, Edge, MVP, Umaga, Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch, if the Major Bros. are the mystery tag team; then they will win the tag team gold, Candice Michelle, and Jimmy Yang Wang (even though i hate him, i think he's gonna win the titile)

i cant wait for tonight, i got it ordered and ready to watch

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#109 wwe4ever_in05
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[QUOTE="Jessie_says"][QUOTE="sdvsraw2007"]

Prediction -

Cena (i hate the most and always does win) to defeat Foley, Orton, Booker T & Lashley and retain the WWE Title

MVP to defeat Ric Flair retain U.S Title

Edge to defeat Batista and retain World Heavyweight Championship and Batista won't get another shot as long as Edge is champ.

Santino Marella to win by DQ against Umaga and retain IC Title

Chris Benoit to defeat CM Punk for the vacant ECW World Title

Murdoch and Cade to defeat The Hardyz and retain World Tag Titles

Candice Michelle to defeat Melina and win the WWE Womens title

Jimmy Wang Yang to defeat Chavo Guerrero and winthe cruiserweight title

And if it is

Deuce and Domino vs. Major Brothers then

D & D to retain.

sdvsraw2007

I agree completely with these results when it comes to reality but when it comes to what i want, i would like Randy orton to win the wwe championship, besides that i dont care what else happens, thats right I'm spending 40 dollars to be disappointed. Wwe4ever, i love how the match card and pictures look. great job.

Yeah those were my predictions but what i want is

Edge to win (even though Batista is in my top 5 of fav superstars)

Randy Orton to win (Cena too long as champ and i don't like him, Booker T is a stupid d*ckhea* as the king, Foley is a has-been and Lashley well lashley was just ECW Champ and i am beginning not to like him as well.

Candice Michelle to win (Melina doesn't do much she isn't a very good wrestler, Candice has got better and she is better then Melina in my view but they are still both not that good)

Flair to win (MVP doesn't never put up a challenge to anyone it's always Teddy Long putting him in a match and he ain't really defending it at all so Flair to win coz i know if he did win then he would defend it but i still think MVP will win but i WANT Flair to win.)

And other matches i don't really mind.

MVP is going to beat that old man named Flair and there is nothing and I mean nothing ya can do about that.

Sorry kind of in the moment, but yeah MVP will most likely win just for the reason that Flair as US Champion wouldn't make any sense, just like to put in my word.

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#110 Skaterfool99
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i cant beleive i havnt been following wrestling it seems like its really good right now ecspecially with the way this ppv you looks.
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#111 Howell123
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I'd admit it though Flair is my idol and the best damn wrestler ever, I think MVP should win just so he can keep his big push going!
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#112 Big_Evil666
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My Predictions:

  1. Booker T win the WWE title, if Cena doesn't retain
  2. Hardys win the World Tag Titles
  3. Melina retains Woman's title, though, persoanly I don't care
  4. D&D retain WWE Tag Titles
  5. CM Punk wins ECW World Title
  6. Batista wins World Title
  7. Chavo retains Cruiserweight title
  8. Umaga wins IC title
  9. MVP retains US title
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#113 wwe4ever_in05
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Reasult for Vengeance:

WWE World Tag Team Championgship-Cade and Murdoch Vs. The Hardys- Winners: Cade and Murdoch

WWE Cruiserweight Championship-Chavo Vs. Jimmy Wang Yang- Winner: Chavo

ECW Championship-CM Punk Vs. Johnny Nitro (Benoit wasn't there, because of personal reasons) - Winner: Johnny Nitro :x

WWE IC Championship-Santino Marella Vs. Umaga - Winner: Santino Marella via DQ

WWE US Championship-MVP Vs. Ric Flair - Winner: MVP

WWE Tag Team Championships-Decue and Domino Vs.Sgt Slaughter and Jimmy Snuka- Winner: Decue and Domino

WWE World Heavyweight Championship-Edge Vs. Batista -Winner: Edge Via Count Out

WWE Women's Championship-Melina Vs. Candice Michelle - Winner: Candice

WWE Championship-John Cena Vs. Mick Foley Vs. King Bookah Vs. Randy Orton Vs. Bobby Lashley- Winner: John Cena :(:roll:

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#114 killerband55
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ok, this ppv as alright, i'm still in shock at Nitro is the new ECW World Champ, the WWE title match was great, the World Title match was slow in the beginning but got interesting later into the match (i'm very happy Edge is still champ), happy Candice won the Women's title, i liked the Cruiserweight title match, every other match was lame
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#115 EA_GUY
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the ppv was bad in my opinion

they should have put Burke or Cor Von in the ECW title match rather than Nitro, CM Punk should have won rather than Nitro.

Main event was way too short.

Batista vs Edge was good didn't like the count out ending.

Flair vs MVP was good.

The rest I didn't care about

The ppv ended around 7:40 with 9 matches on the card.

Only 2 title changes.

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#116 Howell123
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YES! EDGE WON!! oh but by count out......you know what that means....RE-MATCH!! because HE WON BY COUNT-OUT!! bull$hit to that!

NITRO IS THE ECW CHAMP!!?? wtf! I was in shock when he won......

Oh well Cena didn't lose, but at least he got RKO'd bby Orton! MAN THAT WAS FREAKING SWEET!

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#117 commando611
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NO! i hate this... when willJHON CENAfinally lose that stupid title?!!?! (To randy orton or mick foley)

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#118 Hinata237
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Im sick of John cena and his silly firemans carry.
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#119 Jessie_says
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I have nothing left to say, however i did read that the fans cheered Umaga and booed santino, that makes me happy
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#120 manittimonkeyto
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why didn't cena lose the title im a cena fan but im tired that he doesn't lose the title he should go for intercontinental championship maybe foley should be wwe champ so we can see hardcore matches and hell in a cell matches!!!and mr socko down the throat of his opponents(why didnt randy orton got mr sock down his throat:cry:,or was it king booker i dont know):?
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#121 commando611
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well..next ppv is in 20sh july. we may have to wait but at least they can have more time to think about they gonna do in that ppv and fix that stupid storyline.

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#122 killerband55
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YES! EDGE WON!! oh but by count out......you know what that means....RE-MATCH!! because HE WON BY COUNT-OUT!! bull$hit to that!

Howell123

ok my friends were with me when we watched Vengeance, ok, since Batista officially lost the match, he doesnt get a rematch, cause he lost by count-out so he wont get another shot at the title, so its all good

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#123 Howell123
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[QUOTE="Howell123"]

YES! EDGE WON!! oh but by count out......you know what that means....RE-MATCH!! because HE WON BY COUNT-OUT!! bull$hit to that!

killerband55

ok my friends were with me when we watched Vengeance, ok, since Batista officially lost the match, he doesnt get a rematch, cause he lost by count-out so he wont get another shot at the title, so its all good

I god damn sure hope so!

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#124 Gameslayer3
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YES WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! go edge!
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#125 Gameslayer3
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*looks at resaults* **** vegence! THE ONLY GOOD OUTCOME WAS THE EDGE MATCH. 2 I DIDNT CARE WHO WON. sry caps was on
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#126 killerband55
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*looks at resaults* **** vegence! THE ONLY GOOD OUTCOME WAS THE EDGE MATCH. 2 I DIDNT CARE WHO WON. sry caps was onGameslayer3

so i guess u didnt realize that Nitro is the new ECW World champ

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#127 Gameslayer3
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now i no that:P y was he in the match! thats not right
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#128 WicthBalder
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[QUOTE="Howell123"]

YES! EDGE WON!! oh but by count out......you know what that means....RE-MATCH!! because HE WON BY COUNT-OUT!! bull$hit to that!

killerband55

ok my friends were with me when we watched Vengeance, ok, since Batista officially lost the match, he doesnt get a rematch, cause he lost by count-out so he wont get another shot at the title, so its all good

I wanted Batista to win.

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#129 Gameslayer3
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[QUOTE="killerband55"][QUOTE="Howell123"]

YES! EDGE WON!! oh but by count out......you know what that means....RE-MATCH!! because HE WON BY COUNT-OUT!! bull$hit to that!

WicthBalder

ok my friends were with me when we watched Vengeance, ok, since Batista officially lost the match, he doesnt get a rematch, cause he lost by count-out so he wont get another shot at the title, so its all good

I wanted Batista to win.

batista sucks. he also gets to many title shots...
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#130 killerband55
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[QUOTE="WicthBalder"][QUOTE="killerband55"][QUOTE="Howell123"]

YES! EDGE WON!! oh but by count out......you know what that means....RE-MATCH!! because HE WON BY COUNT-OUT!! bull$hit to that!

Gameslayer3

ok my friends were with me when we watched Vengeance, ok, since Batista officially lost the match, he doesnt get a rematch, cause he lost by count-out so he wont get another shot at the title, so its all good

I wanted Batista to win.

batista sucks. he also gets to many title shots...

that and he sucks as a wrestler

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#131 WicthBalder
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What is so great about edge being wwe heavyweight champion?

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#132 killerband55
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What is so great about edge being wwe heavyweight champion?

WicthBalder

well Edge is a great wrestler, he does much better on Smackdown than on Raw, and he has awesome pyro

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#133 Howell123
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lmao he has good pyro lol!
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#134 Gameslayer3
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he has cool hair:P jk but realy what killer said. and other than his "hateing the fans" gimmick i like him
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#135 killerband55
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he has cool hair:P jk but realy what killer said. and other than his "hateing the fans" gimmick i like himGameslayer3

he's supposed to hate the fans cause he's a heel, he just very entertaining in general

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#136 Gameslayer3
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well he seems to "fate" use more than other heels do
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#137 Jessie_says
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Edge rulesas a wrestler and hes extremely entertaining, and he deserves the WHC i just wish wwe would let him win clean. I miss Kurt Angle
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#138 Gameslayer3
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dont we all
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#139 Jessie_says
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Kurt was so Raw and Vicious in the ring. Even as a heel
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#140 Big_Evil666
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[QUOTE="Gameslayer3"][QUOTE="WicthBalder"][QUOTE="killerband55"][QUOTE="Howell123"]

YES! EDGE WON!! oh but by count out......you know what that means....RE-MATCH!! because HE WON BY COUNT-OUT!! bull$hit to that!

killerband55

ok my friends were with me when we watched Vengeance, ok, since Batista officially lost the match, he doesnt get a rematch, cause he lost by count-out so he wont get another shot at the title, so its all good

I wanted Batista to win.

batista sucks. he also gets to many title shots...

that and he sucks as a wrestler

that's bullsh*t, but I guess! Any way, who the hell is Edge going to fight now? Finlay, Khali, Mark Henry? Hell, I'd rather he fight Batista again.

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#141 Jessie_says
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See its when u name off wrestlers such as mark henry and Khali is what makes batista sound good, thats like saying cena vs. eugene, cmon of course cena would sound better, now finlay vs. edge would be great. matt hardy vs. edge would be even greater, theyre are lots of oppourtunities for different wrestlers and they often step up their game when it comes to the world heavyweight championship look at nitro hes improved since winning the ecw world championship, talent is out there it just has to be exposed.
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#142 killerband55
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[QUOTE="killerband55"][QUOTE="Gameslayer3"][QUOTE="WicthBalder"][QUOTE="killerband55"][QUOTE="Howell123"]

YES! EDGE WON!! oh but by count out......you know what that means....RE-MATCH!! because HE WON BY COUNT-OUT!! bull$hit to that!

Big_Evil666

ok my friends were with me when we watched Vengeance, ok, since Batista officially lost the match, he doesnt get a rematch, cause he lost by count-out so he wont get another shot at the title, so its all good

I wanted Batista to win.

batista sucks. he also gets to many title shots...

that and he sucks as a wrestler

that's bullsh*t, but I guess! Any way, who the hell is Edge going to fight now? Finlay, Khali, Mark Henry? Hell, I'd rather he fight Batista again.

well u know, he can always take on Matt Hardy again, i'm sure there is some issues to settle still

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#143 AlBeadFFx
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i could see a good title match there
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#144 Gameslayer3
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i dont like the idea of mat being world champ. the draft KILLED smack down

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#145 Jessie_says
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Well there isnt much World title talent on smackdown but im tired of Batista
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#146 Gameslayer3
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LOL theres not much talent at all :lol:
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#147 killerband55
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LOL theres not much talent at all :lol:Gameslayer3

well Edge is still keeping that show going

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#148 Big_Evil666
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[QUOTE="Gameslayer3"]LOL theres not much talent at all :lol:killerband55

well Edge is still keeping that show going

Just barely! I for one, like I said, would rather see Batista/Edge, or hell, when or if the WWE figures out what they're doing with him, Kane/Edge as oppossed to Finlay/Matt Hardy/Edge, cause neither of those two, imo, are World title contenders. As for what someone mentioned about Nitro, I hardly thing his winning the ECW title is something that's good, it's crap, imo.

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#149 Gameslayer3
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yes him winning it is crap
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#150 Jessie_says
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U guys think that simply because they are tons of wrestlers who deserve it more and its understandable but look at it from this perspective, hes an up in coming superstar and hes very talented not Heavyweight title talentd but Intercontinental or U.S. Championship talented but face itWWE chose for him to have it and we have to just see how it turns out. i think CM punk and himself will have a great fued, difference of ****, i can only see good coming from this, now if u wanna find someone to look down on, look no further than John Cena.

In other news, yes Matt after thinking about it would be an awful championship competitor, Edge proved himself main event satus, unlike Matt, and Finlay isnt the greatest talent or character but an awesome wrestler, Batista vs Edge is only good due to the fact that Batista was a good world champ and at one instance a good wrestler, hell he was the monster after breaking from HHH then he just stopped and became lame, but like i said its only good because we all know Edge is the better wrestler and he carries Batista and makes him look good, even though thats a hard task, now yes, Kane vs. Edge would be awsome hell before Matt came back and ruined the storyline i was loving the Kane/Edge fued and i hope wwe would smarten up.

But anyways i would like to see a fued between Finlay vs. Matt vs. Eugene vs. Mvp that would be funny but somewhat cool, thenUmaga vs. Henry and Batista vs. Sandman if he was on Smackdown, and well, thats the only thing i can see in smackdown.As for raw, tons of different fueds can arise, i honestly want to see Booker and Randy have a fued, Cena vs. Lashely, Foley vs. Snitsky cus Snitsky would totally own, Candice vs. Victoria or Jillian, then Lita when she returns vs. Melina, that would be an awesome match. um...Paul london and his partner vs. the Hardys oh wait nevermind their not a team anymore, um..well oh well. WGTT vs. Cade and Murdock, uh...who else is own raw?

I want to hear u guys predictions and deisres for what fueds you all would like to see on different shows.