360 games are short!!!!

Seems like a trend on all console games, not just the 360.

In some ways I am fine with it, I mean games start to get repititive at some point anyway. Its a shame we have to pay premium price however when the game is short and has little replay the price tag should reflect that.

I agree, a lot of games are short.

cod 4 under 5 hours in normal mode.

Halo 3. just over 10 hours on normal mode. Half Life 2. 15 hours on normal mode. colin mcrae dirt, 4.2 hours for 50% completed on normal mode

A lot of games are becoming more and more online multi player based. this is extremely dishonest for the people who do not have xbox live. Now before all you boffins jump up and down and say well you should get xbl. if you dont have broadband net how can you? A lot of ppl are still on dial up here in Australia as they can not get adsl.

5 hours of gameplay for $100 is obsurd. Maybe they need to bring out 2 versions of the game. 1 for offline and the other that has both off and online. charge less for the offline only version.

there is one factor that haunts developers minds when they create games...that factor is "Time" of course. Corners have to be cut, areas that the developer would have liked to add in the game would have to be removed in order to release the game on time. Making video games isn't what it used to be, people are expecting more and more, and in order to do that, developers may have to focus less on length and more on features or content.

Uncharted is not a long game. It is around 10 hours. The level of detail in the current generation of games has increased dramatically since last generation. That is alot of extra work for developers to create those assets. So, they really focus on delivering a high level of quality throughout the experience and they eliminate all the "filler" levels. Shorter games are for the better. Not too short though, hehe ;) BassMan

Whoa you squeezed that much out of it/

It was 7hours 15 minutes for me

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

DbleBassDrummer

Yeah but ones true the other isnt

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360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

ukillwegrill

Yeah but ones true the other isnt

I agree.

[QUOTE="DbleBassDrummer"]

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

ukillwegrill

Yeah but ones true the other isnt

Personally I think both statements are for the most part true

I agree, a lot of games are short.

cod 4 under 5 hours in normal mode.

Halo 3. just over 10 hours on normal mode. Half Life 2. 15 hours on normal mode. colin mcrae dirt, 4.2 hours for 50% completed on normal mode

A lot of games are becoming more and more online multi player based. this is extremely dishonest for the people who do not have xbox live. Now before all you boffins jump up and down and say well you should get xbl. if you dont have broadband net how can you? A lot of ppl are still on dial up here in Australia as they can not get adsl.

5 hours of gameplay for $100 is obsurd. Maybe they need to bring out 2 versions of the game. 1 for offline and the other that has both off and online. charge less for the offline only version.

rexxpro

WOW! 100 bucks a game? I agree with you, they should put out 2 versions of the game for AUssies. That's highway robbery and then some!

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

DbleBassDrummer

That's like saying Mario Galaxy lacks depth... Oops, didn't it get GOTY?

[QUOTE="DbleBassDrummer"]

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

gigaman299

That's like saying Mario Galaxy lacks depth... Oops, didn't it get GOTY?

It dosent matter what gets awrards, as ur opinion will differ from anyone elses i personally thought mario galaxy was repetitve and didnt use the Wii controll well

[QUOTE="gigaman299"][QUOTE="DbleBassDrummer"]

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

ukillwegrill

That's like saying Mario Galaxy lacks depth... Oops, didn't it get GOTY?

It dosent matter what gets awrards, as ur opinion will differ from anyone elses i personally thought mario galaxy was repetitve and didnt use the Wii controll well

I thought Mario Galaxy was awesome and used the Wii controller perfectly.... Oh well...

What are we comparing to though? Sonic the hedgehog? Mario bro's?

I can't see a pattern that games are getting shorter?

if you play these games on harder difficulties...they are not as short.
playing on easy and normal is a waste of time. therapyhiccup

Here, here.

I used to play games on the easy or normal setting. Once games (especially on consoles) became shorter I took to upping the difficulty from the start. Made the game last A LOT longer plus I felt that I got the perspective the developer's intended along with really getting a feel for the atmosphere and environment of the game and all of it's little nuances.

Maybe u should take a break from playin and go play mass effect it has tons of things u can do to keep urself occupiedDoomBringer2010

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="gigaman299"][QUOTE="DbleBassDrummer"]

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

gigaman299

That's like saying Mario Galaxy lacks depth... Oops, didn't it get GOTY?

It dosent matter what gets awrards, as ur opinion will differ from anyone elses i personally thought mario galaxy was repetitve and didnt use the Wii controll well

I thought Mario Galaxy was awesome and used the Wii controller perfectly.... Oh well...

[QUOTE="DbleBassDrummer"]

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

gigaman299

That's like saying Mario Galaxy lacks depth... Oops, didn't it get GOTY?

It wasn't my game of the year, that's for sure.

[QUOTE="gigaman299"][QUOTE="DbleBassDrummer"]

360 games are short? What?

That's like saying that all Wii games lack depth.... oops.. :roll:

DbleBassDrummer

That's like saying Mario Galaxy lacks depth... Oops, didn't it get GOTY?

It wasn't my game of the year, that's for sure.

Mine either. Its a good game no doubt, but alot of good games are getting alot more attention than they deserve from the simple fact that so many crappy games are being thrown at us. Mario Galaxy, Mass Effect and Bioshock, just to name 3, are good games that are getting too much credit. Theyre all good games, but none of them are the mind blowing, industry changing games everyone seems to be trying to convince us they are.

Regardless of all the complaining that gets done, every survey that gets done by the gaming industry on this matter shows that gamers want shorter games for one reason or another. The simple fact is, casual gamers make up a larger portion of the population than hardcore gamers, and they want quick, easy games. And thats what we get. Every couple years or so, some gaming mag or website does a story on why games are getting shorter and this is always the explanation. Its what MOST gamers want. Like it or not.DZBricktop

It seems a far too convenient answer for a games industry that wants to minimise the cost of making each game. By quoting a survery that says people want shorter games they will just make shorter and shorter games. They will get into a spiral making shorter games, realise they can still charge the same amount for it, and then assume that is the new normal length.

On PC when Valve tried Episodic gaming with its Half-life series, it decided that because it was making a shorter game (Episode 1) it would sell it for a reduced price - £19.99 instead of £29.99. On 360 you don't see anyone trying to sell their shorter games for a reduced price.

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I agree, a lot of games are short.

cod 4 under 5 hours in normal mode.

Halo 3. just over 10 hours on normal mode. Half Life 2. 15 hours on normal mode. colin mcrae dirt, 4.2 hours for 50% completed on normal mode

A lot of games are becoming more and more online multi player based. this is extremely dishonest for the people who do not have xbox live. Now before all you boffins jump up and down and say well you should get xbl. if you dont have broadband net how can you? A lot of ppl are still on dial up here in Australia as they can not get adsl.

5 hours of gameplay for $100 is obsurd. Maybe they need to bring out 2 versions of the game. 1 for offline and the other that has both off and online. charge less for the offline only version.

im-a-roustabout

WOW! 100 bucks a game? I agree with you, they should put out 2 versions of the game for AUssies. That's highway robbery and then some!

Yeah, i agree. Here in the Dominican Republic i have to spend 100+ dls for a single game, and can't afford broadband conection, so the multiplayer part of most games are useless to me.

I think the notion "short" has become more prevelant because young gamers these days are spending their entire afternoons and evenings playing video games now. They play them on one of the easiest difficulties, beat it, and then complain that they are short.

IMO, they need to make games harder. I think they are starting to do this with the 360 where the really valuable achievements are attained from beating games on their hardest difficulty.

You wanna know why XBOX 360 games are short cause they dont use Blu-Ray disc.MFDABADKID

Most PS3 games are the same length, and PS3 exclusives are the same, heavenly sword...what a rip off

[QUOTE="MFDABADKID"]You wanna know why XBOX 360 games are short cause they dont use Blu-Ray disc.JJpenguin

Most PS3 games are the same length, and PS3 exclusives are the same, heavenly sword...what a rip off

You are right Heavenly Sword was short but they are making a sequal. I think they spent to much time on working on the graphics. I am just saying that you can fit more data on a Blu-Ray disc.

I think the notion "short" has become more prevelant because young gamers these days are spending their entire afternoons and evenings playing video games now. They play them on one of the easiest difficulties, beat it, and then complain that they are short.

IMO, they need to make games harder. I think they are starting to do this with the 360 where the really valuable achievements are attained from beating games on their hardest difficulty.

Bogles

That doesn't change the fact that the games are short. Game length should come from the amount of content, not the amount of retries you have to do because of difficulty or because you only play for half an hour every day. If I'm going to pay $60 for something I don't want it to be beatable in one afternoon playthrough.

Maybe u should take a break from playin and go play mass effect it has tons of things u can do to keep urself occupiedDoomBringer2010

Ya mass effect is a long game. But if you really want to spend many hours on your xbox, play all the missions on Oblivion.

More games are coming out than ever before. To get people to keep buying games, they have to make them shorter so that you'll finish one and go on to the next, and not get mired in the depths of one for months at a time.

But I'd like to see longer games again as well. Even simple things like the upside down castle in Symphony of the Night, or the Dark World in Link to the Past add length and are fun without being tedious.

Racing and any sports games will keep you busy for awhile.

One more thing, what would you rather have: Quality, Quantity or both? I for one would rather play a kick ass 5 hour campaign of COD4 versus wandering around for 100 hours in Oblvion (just my opinion, I got so bored with it and the combat sucked). Now this obviously isn't the best comparison since both games are completely different genres, but still. It just goes to show how I personally see things. It doesn't necessarily mean that I don't like a somewhat lengthy adventure. Take Mass Effect for instance. That had quality and quantity. I played almost all the side missions and completed it in about 27 hours. That was a perfect length for that type of game and I can't wait to play it again, this time as a Renegade!! The only other prime example of a quality and quantity game IMO (sorry, not 360 related) is The Legend of Zelda. I invested over 70 hours in Twilight Princess and loved every minute of it. When the next LOZ comes out, I'll do it again. So if you're looking for a lengthy adventure, more often than not, you need to look outside the XBOX.