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#1 Darth_Tigris
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When I look at this wonderful holiday line-up, there is a HUGE void on the 360. While platformers are not as PREVALENT as they used to be, good ones still have much value in a gaming library. I look at vids of SMG and R&C and I really feel like I'm missing out on something special. And, in all honesty, it doesn't need to be like this. And no, non-AAA titles like Crash of the Titans don't count. I'm talking bonifide, high profile, big platformers that are done by quality devs busting at the seems with ideas.

Yeah, I'm 33 years old and I don't view these as kids games unless that's truly who they are designed for exclusively (you know, the stupid easy games). No, I'm talking all ages or teen games that just have that universal appeal like the aforementioned titles being released on competing systems. We've played these games for years and enjoyed them and can still enjoy them as older hardcore gamers.

So will MS step up to the plate and deliver (and yes, I know Banjo is coming, but I'm talking about more than ONE game)?

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#2 Renegade194
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It's called Halo......
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#3 BreakingPoint8
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Probably a new Conker after Banjo Kazooie 3.
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#4 gruoch1
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It's called Halo......Renegade194

Halo is not a platformer. It's just one of the dozens of shooters already on the 360 (albeit a good one). I really agree with the TC, I love platformers, and it would be nice to see some more (or any) quality platformers on the 360!

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#5 BoSox09
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the 360 doesn't need platformers
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#6 Large_Soda
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I noticed the trend back in the PS2/Xbox days that Microsoft's focus was not on platformers and that is one of the main reason I loved my PS2 and decided to get a PS3. I really hope MS decides to make a good platformer because they are a really fun genre and I hope to God it isn't Blinx 3.
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#7 Infernoply
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totally agree with you, i love the look of both ratchet and clank and mario galaxy but dont want to have to buy a wii or ps3. would be nice to have a few high profile platformers
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#8 andrewhateme
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Halo 3 is out now, why would you want to play anything else??
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#9 breaze56
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It's called Halo......Renegade194

QFT lol, i was about to say the same.

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#10 Agent_Kaliaver
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Microsoft hasn't really been focusing on platformers. Of course the only company they own that would make a platformer is Rare and they are already doing that.

All i can say is that i am happy to see an Xbox console get more RPGs and really JRPGs. SO right now i am going to say they are working at these things one step at a time.

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#11 fenwickhotmail
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kameo, conker and banjo need to make a return!
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#12 I_pWnzz_YoU
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Yea I agree, I've been waiting for a Ratchet and Clank on the 360, Mario would be cool to I guess.
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#13 Mungen_Jin
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Probably a new Conker after Banjo threeie

Either one of those

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#14 markslaunwhite
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yea, i like rachet and clank, but i think that mario should stay with nintendo, it would make more scence that way
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#15 stickynotz
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banjo kazooie is all i have to say
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#16 GEARSofWAR360
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yea we need a good ratchet like game and hopefully they will do something good with conker
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#17 nyc05
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The topic creator wants more platformers, but several people here are simply saying, "Halo's out". WTF does that have to do with wanting a platformer? I'm amazed at the one sided thinking of many gamers today, thinking that Halo is the be-all-end-all for all of us.

Back on topic, I would like some great new platformers as well. I will be getting Ratchet for the PS3 later this month, but it's really a dying genre. Most developers have given up on platformers, and it's a shame. With today's technology and some great creative thinking, the platform genre could be brought back. Maybe soon, we'll see some.

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#18 msjr78
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Isn't Kameo considered a platformer?
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#19 fatty5xl
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in response to the topic . no it doesnt its doing ok now

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#20 Nonam3gamer
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The Wii's only decent future platformer is Mario

The Ps3's only decent future platformer is R&C

The 360's only decent future platformer is Banjo

I know that the 360 is the best console when it comes to games by far but that doesn't mean it should be the undesputed best in every genre. Besides a lot of the games that are offically in the action genre (like kameo) play quite a bit like platformers. I think that the action genre kind of ate it up :P

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#21 Elektrik-Blu
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Banjo Threeie will be the Xbox 360's main platformer.
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#22 Sora311
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The Wii's only decent future platformer is Mario

The Ps3's only decent future platformer is R&C

The 360's only decent future platformer is Banjo

I know that the 360 is the best console when it comes to games by far but that doesn't mean it should be the undesputed best in every genre. Besides a lot of the games that are offically in the action genre (like kameo) play quite a bit like platformers. I think that the action genre kind of ate it up :P

Nonam3gamer

Wow you forgot about Jak n Daxter.... tsk tsk

also we will hopefully see a new conker on the 360, and yes banjo will be on the way with all the hints Rare kept dropping the past year.

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#23 LivingReceiver
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I LOVE platformers and it is a shame that todays developers don't utilize the technology available to make the best of the platform genre.

Rathchet and Clank looks like an awesome game and I cant wait to play it. Why dont you just buy a PS3?

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#24 -Sniper99-
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Next Banjo Game.
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#25 jc_tkml
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I consider God of War and Jak platformers as well the only thing that I can think of that "might" become a good platformer for 360 is conan and jason & the argonauts and those aren't even exclusives. I also don't know if I should consider Assassin's Creed a platformer and even if it is, it's not exclusive
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#26 Darth_Tigris
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Some of you are a bit confused as to what a 'platform game' is, despite the examples. This wiki is actually pretty good (though long) at discussing the genre and its peak and current valley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platformer

Though I play a TON of different genres with love for much of them, platformers have always been among my most definitive gaming experiences, even recently (Psychonauts, for one).

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#27 kozzy1234
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We are getting Banjo 3 sometime and to be honest... Kameo was better then any Ratchet and Clank game in my opinion :D
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#28 branketra
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I think the closest thing to a platformer in spirit that's widely known is Gears of War with the Cover system.
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#29 bazanger
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two things: halo is not the best game ever, far from it, stop pretending that's the only game you'll ever need. if you don't know what a platformer is, don't pretend you do. gears of war, god of war, and all those are NOT platformers. back on topic: i want mario on the 360!
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#30 CooVee
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Having loved Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie, I am really hoping the new Banjo game will live up to those titles. I am absolutely sick of shooters (first person mostly) and want some more action adventure, platformers and RPGs that are actually worth their price tag.
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#31 Merodach
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As many have mentioned, Banjo and Conker are coming. What I think many people in the gaming community dont yet see is that we are living in a paradigm shift of gaming development. Platformers were king in the past and were primarily created by japanese devs. During the NES, SNES and even up until the PS2 era, japanese devs made the best games, with platformers and third person action games at the front. However nowadays western devs from America and Europe have been the ones dominating the charts with cutting egde games, primarily FPS and western style rpg's. Even the platformer has been taken over by top notch western devs, R&C, Banjo, Jak, all made by western devs. I too long for more next gen platformers, but that genre is a mostly japanese affair and we'll likely see more western style games in the near future.
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#32 1vgfan
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Probably a new Conker after Banjo Kazooie 3.BreakingPoint8

Ooo, that sounds good.

And I can't wait for Banjo Kazooie!!!

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#33 Geek12
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It's called Halo......Renegade194

Master Cheif = New age mario.

Now, master cheif will NEVER be what mario is/was but i mean, its master cheif.

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#34 perfection1000
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[QUOTE="Renegade194"]It's called Halo......gruoch1

Halo is not a platformer. It's just one of the dozens of shooters already on the 360 (albeit a good one). I really agree with the TC, I love platformers, and it would be nice to see some more (or any) quality platformers on the 360!

Yeah it is just the other dozen shooters but those "other dozen" are better than the mediocre game that is Halo 3. And yeah I agree, 360 needs a high profile platformer.
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#36 Tactis
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Crash of the titans and Naruto Rise of Ninja are pretty quality games(crash isn't coming to ps3 but is on the wii)
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#37 spade357
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Unfortunately, Xbox360 is geared toward FPS. It's all about Halo/similar type of games for the Xbox community. The original Xbox was also geared toward for FPS gamers.
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#38 club-sandwich
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Banjo Threeie, I can't wait for that game :D
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#39 compaq345682
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The new Crash bandicoot game that came out does a pretty good job as a platformer.
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#40 Guitartod
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Like the new banjo is gonna wipe the floor with rachet and clank............
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#41 SaintsRowSam
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we should have jak and daxter for the 360 those would be awsome, and anyways we dont need a platformer were doing great so far
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#42 3rdshifter
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I agree. I have been missing those type of games. I would love a zelda type game too, or Okami. FPS are cool but 360 gotta evolve. Not just FPS, racers and sports sims.
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#43 gander448
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i agree, that was the main reason i was hesitant to sell my wii. Actually, smg was pretty much the only reason i held on to my wii for this long. I hope rare makes a good conker or better yet a completely new platformer, it is the one genre ms is REALLY lacking
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#44 wii60_lukatoll
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Isn't Kameo considered a platformer?msjr78

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What's with the R&C hate? Sure, Sony's messed up a lot of things with the PS3 and I sure don't own one, but one thing they DEFINITELY got right was Putting a new R&C game on it within the first year. As a multiplatform gamer last gen (when it was affordable), the R&C series epitomized the evolution of the platformer. Sure, it got away from such elements with the later games, but it stands above and beyond as the best example of the genre last gen.

As I am curious about Banjo (hadn't played the previous ones), I'm not talking about just coming out with sequels. The platformer could use a new, exciting approach that is a tribute to the genre and another step in the evolution of it. Something that will capture the attention of younger gamers with its concept and interaction but stimulate the hardcore with its elevating complexity and ingenuity. Insomniac pulled it off last gen and is continuing it again. Where are the other developers that are up to the challenge???

To be honest, Microsoft NEEDS such titles in-force on the 360 if it plans on expanding its audience and not wearing gamers out with too many shooters and M-rated fare. They already HAVE that audience and there is actually TOO MUCH software aimed at them (I'd love to play Orange Box, but Halo 3 is filling that need plenty right now) to the point where its counterproductive.

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#46 jc_tkml
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two things: halo is not the best game ever, far from it, stop pretending that's the only game you'll ever need. if you don't know what a platformer is, don't pretend you do. gears of war, god of war, and all those are NOT platformers. back on topic: i want mario on the 360!ctfvyrsgurbnorn

god of war is a platformer going from place to place it's kinda like jak but bloodier and no guns

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#48 goallie
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I'm okay with out plat-formers the only one's I have ever really enjoyed are 2 D mario side scrollers, nothing else interests me at all. This being said I can still see the want for atleast a couple of moderately good ones.
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#49 ananda81
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I am greatly looking foward to "Banjo Kazooie 3" next year!!!

Also, I loved playing "Kameo: Elements of Power" really hoping for a sequel. And then there also is the new Conker.
And there are also going to be many other platformers that will be multiplatform anyway.

Anyway, I am mainly interested in the new Banjo-Kazooie!

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#50 Darth_Tigris
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What is this new Conker people are talking about? I've never heard of it before this thread.