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#1 1aadnaan
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i just recently got my 360 and i beat gears on it

my tv has 480p 720p and 1080i so naturally ( cuz its a bigger number ) i left it on 1080i ... but i started playing the darkness today and i dont know if im getting all that i can out of it...

it looks good.. but i was wonderinghow thisall works becausei read about native resolution and all of that stuff and i dont get it.. progressive, interlacing? or something like that

i figure someone here can help me understand... i did check both it doesnt seem to make a difference...

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#2 Radiozo
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If they both look the same to you why bother? :D
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Show me your TV model. 1080i usually isn't a good choice unless your TV is 1080i native (which means it's normal resolution is 1920 x 1080 interlaced). Most TV's now are 720p (1280 x 720 progressive) or 768p (1366 x 768 progressive) native. Basically, if you have a native 720p/768p TV but are displaying 1080i on it, you're taking the image and making it smaller which reduces your image quality.
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ok i know how you feel and heres what ive gathered. Progressive is better than interlacing when it all boils down to it. In the case of 720p to 1080i they practically the same. I hooked my 360 up by way of pc input on my samsung tv and chose the highest setting..1344xsomething...but like i said i chose 1080i but it really doesnt matter because they are pretty much the same
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ok i know how you feel and heres what ive gathered. Progressive is better than interlacing when it all boils down to it. In the case of 720p to 1080i they practically the same. I hooked my 360 up by way of pc input on my samsung tv and chose the highest setting..1344xsomething...but like i said i chose 1080i but it really doesnt matter because they are pretty much the samedrumerdude361
They look the same but there are subtle differences. Playing in progressive makes objects move a lot smoother. Also, use whatever resolution is native to your TV. Read my post above.
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#6 drumerdude361
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yes that is true. i forgot about the native resolutions of certian tvs. Which in my case is 1080i. but i was never really sure of my native resolution. i assumed it was 1080i b/c my tvs highest setting is 1366X768. was i correct in putting it at the 1080i setting? 
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yes that is true. i forgot about the native resolutions of certian tvs. Which in my case is 1080i. but i was never really sure of my native resolution. i assumed it was 1080i b/c my tvs highest setting is 1366X768. was i correct in putting it at the 1080i setting? drumerdude361
Nope. You basically took all those extra pixels between 1366 and 1920 and mashed em together... :P Your TV's native resolution is 1366 x 768 so 1280 x 720 would've been closer.
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#8 Radiozo
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yes that is true. i forgot about the native resolutions of certian tvs. Which in my case is 1080i. but i was never really sure of my native resolution. i assumed it was 1080i b/c my tvs highest setting is 1366X768. was i correct in putting it at the 1080i setting? drumerdude361

720p is closer to your native resolution. But again if you cant notice a differance then it doesnt matter.

I cant either on my 1366x768 LCD. Both look and play the same to me.

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[QUOTE="drumerdude361"]yes that is true. i forgot about the native resolutions of certian tvs. Which in my case is 1080i. but i was never really sure of my native resolution. i assumed it was 1080i b/c my tvs highest setting is 1366X768. was i correct in putting it at the 1080i setting? Radiozo

720p is closer to your native resolution. But again if you cant notice a differance then it doesnt matter.

I cant either on my 1366x768 LCD. Both look and play the same to me.

Even if it looks the same, is it so hard to just play on your native resolution? :?
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#10 drumerdude361
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yea but like i said i have my 360 hooked up by way of pc input. so when i configure my hd options it doesnt say 1080i it says like 1360X768 so wouldnt i be correct in choosing that
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yea but like i said i have my 360 hooked up by way of pc input. so when i configure my hd options it doesnt say 1080i it says like 1360X768 so wouldnt i be correct in choosing thatdrumerdude361
Well, if your TV's native resolution is 1366 x 768, then 1360 x 768 is the best choice.
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ok so yea im good
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Progressive is true 1080p and Interlaced is a doubling of existing lines to make up 1080i resolution. If your TV is not 1080i native or 1080p native you should keep it at 720. Pretty simple stuff. The 360 needs to be formatted so that it sends the correct signal, also off-point but important you should format your cable box to send the 1080i signal if you haven't already. The newer TV's are true 1080p and they are interlacing those lines to make up newer HD signals but they are interlaced signals.
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yes that is true. i forgot about the native resolutions of certian tvs. Which in my case is 1080i. but i was never really sure of my native resolution. i assumed it was 1080i b/c my tvs highest setting is 1366X768. was i correct in putting it at the 1080i setting?drumerdude361
ok, your tv is basically 720p native. 1366 x 768 is really a pc resolution, your tv is this so it can hadle pc signals easily. Next thing is some of the screen you cant actually see, you can only really see 1280 x 720 (720i/p), there is a border to allow you tv to move the picture about a bit to account for slightly different incoming signals and all flat screen tv's are like this.

The reason it looks the same is because all HD sets have to be 1080i compatable as HD tv will broadcast some programmes in this resolution, but its cheaper to make a screen with fewer pixels. This way they can sell it as a HD set and make it more cheaply. Your TV takes the higher 1080 signal and downscales it to fit your 720 screen.

Now, progressive scan is better than interlaced, so your better of keeping your 360 at 720p, this way your not reducing any possible quality by having your tv scale the image (processing the picture more before displaying it) and your getting a progressive scan picture instead of interlaced. 'p' updates the whole image in each frame in one go, giving better frame rates and smoother moving images, 'i' does it in two stages, updating every odd numbered line first, then completing the image by updating every even numbered line, which gives you half the frame rate.

1366x768 is a vga (PC)resolution and is equal to the component resolution of 1280 x 720(720p for HD tv) more or less, so just choose one of those depending on your connection type and your getting the best out of your setup.

Hope that helps you out.

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[QUOTE="drumerdude361"]yes that is true. i forgot about the native resolutions of certian tvs. Which in my case is 1080i. but i was never really sure of my native resolution. i assumed it was 1080i b/c my tvs highest setting is 1366X768. was i correct in putting it at the 1080i setting? Radiozo

720p is closer to your native resolution. But again if you cant notice a differance then it doesnt matter.

I cant either on my 1366x768 LCD. Both look and play the same to me.

trust these words from a 3D artist:

it's better to go from a higher resolution and shrink it DOWN, then to stretch it UP to something closer.

always always ALWAYS.

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#16 the1stmoonfly
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^^^^^^^

true as that is, where did upscaling issues come into this?

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#17 maxxorz
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^^^^^^^

true as that is, where did upscaling issues come into this?

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Dude I have no idea, but someone brought it up.