Anyone else feel cheated by apparent 20G hard drive?

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#1 fesboy82
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Hello all, have just got my premium XBOX360 and I love it. One of the major selling points of the premium over the core is that it comes with a 20G hard drive. I was shocked (slightly discusted) to discover that 7Gs of this hard drive space is reserved for system info and only 13Gs is accessible by the user. This also made me wonder where this 7Gs of system info is stored on the core system? Does anyone else feel cheated?
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#2 talkingpie92
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Yeah, they should advertise that you don't actually get all that space, but to be honest I don't think I need that much - I've still got about 12.8 GB left after nearly half a year
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#3 HarryVanBreemen
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Yeah i know what you mean I felt a bit confused at first I guess you just have to accept it
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#4 Sam_Lowery
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It comes pre-loaded with lots of songs and videos you can delete to free up more room, but you'll never get all 20gigs.
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#5 monco59
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Not really, it's the same with PC's. Remember them?
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#6 GameFace06
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MS sould of made it 30gb not 20gb.

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#7 FearlessSpirit
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I deleted some of the pre-installed stuff on it and I have nearly 17GB's of free space. It's more then enough.
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#8 talkingpie92
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It comes pre-loaded with lots of songs and videos you can delete to free up more room, but you'll never get all 20gigs.Sam_Lowery

I heard about that, but when I look at my memory there's no sign of any pre-loaded stuff except the few pictures that you get to choose from at the start.

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#9 stake
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even at about 13 gigs it seems to be far more space then i could ever need at this point
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#10 Gama_Forever
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yep you only really need 1 GB to play games and about 3-4 for movies and tv shows...the rest can be recycled with demos and the like....
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#11 mikeneb430
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with like 10 retail game saves, 3 original xbox saves and 5 arcade games i still have 12 gigs. i dont feel cheated at all.
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#12 reddwarf_30
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it comes with PGR 3 demo which is like 1.3gig, so u can delete that if u want.
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#13 JCxDenton
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.i cant use my external harddrive that use for my pc.... ive been cheated for awhile
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#14 p-f-c
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I know its a bit off subject but on the 64mb memory card you only have 54mb! Even when you delete everything on it. And that 10 mb can make a differnce because for some games you need over 60 mb!
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#15 Recon13
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Nope, 5 gb's is actually to much for me.. 
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#16 dxy592
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the only thing that annoys me is the price of the standalone 120gb hdd. i still have 11.8gb left but i'm sure it'll fill up soon because of the growing amount of dlc available for games. i guess i'll delete the videos/songs/hexic to free up space if i need it badly enough.

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#17 subject117
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I do feel a bit cheated...I've had to go through multiple times cleaning out my hard drive after filling it up.
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#18 BulletsnOctane
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Hello all, have just got my premium XBOX360 and I love it. One of the major selling points of the premium over the core is that it comes with a 20G hard drive. I was shocked (slightly discusted) to discover that 7Gs of this hard drive space is reserved for system info and only 13Gs is accessible by the user. This also made me wonder where this 7Gs of system info is stored on the core system? Does anyone else feel cheated?fesboy82
Just delete the unwanted material. I still have 11 gigs.
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#19 arab_prince
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Not really, this happens with every Hard Drive I believe. I bought this supposed 320Gb external HDD but it only had 300gb. Yeah you don't get all that was advertised, but meh, you don't really need it.
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#20 FireFox-360
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I feel comfort that the other 7 Gigs are being put to good use.
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#21 shinian
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nope I still have a spare 7gb
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#22 Jasonfinger
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I don't feel cheated.................BUT I WILL!!! When the New 360 comes out with the bigger hardrive!!! Or a bigger harddrive comes out. Then I will feel cheated. Bad enough to have to buy a HD-DVD drive.
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#23 nosedive51
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Don't ever buy a computer, iPod, or anything else hard drive based because they all say one thing and then are actually another.
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#24 atomD21
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There is always space taken up for background files that allow an HDD to even run on whatever it is that you have it connected to.  You don't believe that PS3 owners actually get all 20 or 60GB of their HDD's do you?  Even if you wiped the thing clean, you would never get all 20GB.
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#25 arvaris
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I deleted some of the pre-installed stuff on it and I have nearly 17GB's of free space. It's more then enough.FearlessSpirit
That's impossible since 4GB of the hard drive is reserved for swap space. Plus 1GB for the operating system. And 20GB in microsoft lingo actually means 20 billion bytes (20,000,000,000 bytes) which only equals 18.6GB to begin with... After I deleted everything I had around 14GB left...
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#26 jmartinez1983
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Hello all, have just got my premium XBOX360 and I love it. One of the major selling points of the premium over the core is that it comes with a 20G hard drive. I was shocked (slightly discusted) to discover that 7Gs of this hard drive space is reserved for system info and only 13Gs is accessible by the user. This also made me wonder where this 7Gs of system info is stored on the core system? Does anyone else feel cheated?fesboy82
There's a lot of things that go into that. First, its really only about 18.9gb to start with. This is common to all HDD as they say a certain size and are always a bit smaller. Second, a lot of harddrive space is reserved for the cache which helps with load times, so a premium should load faster than a core once you've played a game a bit. Third, some of the space is reserved for emulators and all that. Don't feel cheated. 13 gigs is plenty of space to do practically whatever you need to do.
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#27 Generic_Dude
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Have you ever bought a PC hard drive? It's NEVER the size it says on the box because there's other information that needs to be stored on there.

In addition to this, the hard drive includes a bunch of pre-loaded audio and video garbage (removable via the Memory menu in the System panel), the BC emulation software, and other system-related items.

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#28 KurupSoldr
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i think people with a core who bought a 20gig for 100$ should feel cheated, especially now they can get 100gb more for 180$ once the elite comes out. am glad to see the price lower considering the money to gb ration MS was using but still sucks you can only buy there harddrives
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#29 V4LENT1NE
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It comes pre-loaded with lots of songs and videos you can delete to free up more room, but you'll never get all 20gigs.Sam_Lowery

You can barely free it up though, you still are missing 7 gigs by the end of it, it is a little annoyingÂ