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#1 GabrialTehall
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I know this does not really have something to do with the 360 but, I just read somthing saying by may of this year Warner Brothers movies are going to only release on blu-ray.................wtf, so, for example........When Batman Begins 2 comes out, I wont be able to watch it if I dont have a blu-ray...............Warner has to of lost there minds or somthing, they will lose alot of money
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#2 Strife88
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Two things, Blu-Ray is actually doing good a lot of companies are siding with it because of its specs and second it's called the Dark Knight.
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#3 76ers
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HD-DVD is obviously not selling and Blu-Ray is. So I don't see how Warner Bros. would be losing a lot money if they are exclusive to Blu-Ray.
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#4 Strife88
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All HD-DVD has that's major right now is Universal and Dreamworks/Pixar.
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#5 arab_prince
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HD-DVD is obviously not selling and Blu-Ray is. So I don't see how Warner Bros. would be losing a lot money if they are exclusive to Blu-Ray.76ers

Not everyone has made the transition from DVD to HD DVD/Blu Ray.

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#6 sro2688
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I think the whole idea of putting faith into either format is stupid. While I have the HD-DVD add-on, I recognize it is only a short-term joy. Pretty soon we will all be watching movies in Hi-Def without having to utilize a disk of any kind.
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#7 76ers
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[QUOTE="76ers"]HD-DVD is obviously not selling and Blu-Ray is. So I don't see how Warner Bros. would be losing a lot money if they are exclusive to Blu-Ray.arab_prince

Not everyone has made the transition from DVD to HD DVD/Blu Ray.

That's not the point. The point is that Warner Bros will make more money from Blu-Ray and not HD-DVD.

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#8 arab_prince
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That's not the point. The point is that Warner Bros will make more money from Blu-Ray and not HD-DVD.

76ers

I think the TC was getting at DVD vs. HD DVD/Blu Ray. How successful is blu ray? Is this really a wise choice by WB?

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#9 76ers
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[QUOTE="76ers"]

That's not the point. The point is that Warner Bros will make more money from Blu-Ray and not HD-DVD.

arab_prince

I think the TC was getting at DVD vs. HD DVD/Blu Ray. How successful is blu ray? Is this really a wise choice by WB?

Well, if you have been reading the news lately, then you would have known that Warner Bros will discontinue their support for HD-DVD to release on Blu-Ray exclusivley. Here is GameSpot's article. So, the point is that Warner Bros will make more money with Blu-Ray and not HD-DVD.

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[QUOTE="76ers"]HD-DVD is obviously not selling and Blu-Ray is. So I don't see how Warner Bros. would be losing a lot money if they are exclusive to Blu-Ray.76ers

Not everyone has made the transition from DVD to HD DVD/Blu Ray.

That's not the point. The point is that Warner Bros will make more money from Blu-Ray and not HD-DVD.

Yeah. WB ditched HD-DVD.

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#11 deactivated-60156c31f349f
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WB won't make regular DVD's either?
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#12 MarineXXII
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[[QUOTE="76ers"][QUOTE="arab_prince"]

[QUOTE="76ers"]HD-DVD is obviously not selling and Blu-Ray is. So I don't see how Warner Bros. would be losing a lot money if they are exclusive to Blu-Ray.JohnP78

Not everyone has made the transition from DVD to HD DVD/Blu Ray.

That's not the point. The point is that Warner Bros will make more money from Blu-Ray and not HD-DVD.

Yeah. WB ditched HD-DVD.

NNNNNOOOOO!!!! now i have to buy a PS3, this sucks, i was hoping HD-DVD wouldnt lose big names like this, o well

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#13 xsalvioutlawx
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All the companies that choose sides, example WB going to Bluray always release the normal DVD's as well. I doubt they'll just cut normal DVD's off as well. You know how much money they'd lose if they did that?

All it means is that Bluray/Normal DVD, but no HD. If microsoft woudl of included the HD built in with the 360 this probably wouldn't be happening

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#14 jerkhammer88
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either way theres way more regular dvd owners so its not like they're gonna ditch dvds and do blu ray exclusively
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#15 deactivated-60156c31f349f
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Aslong as they make normal DVD's I don't care much, I only buy that anyway hehe
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#16 GabrialTehall
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From what I read it said they are EXLUSIVE to blu ray

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184325.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0

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#17 therapyhiccup
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stick bluray stuff into xbox 360!
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#18 iloverikku11
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Batman Begins 2 lol
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#19 GabrialTehall
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Batman Begins 2 loliloverikku11

you did not like Batman Begins?

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#20 kryloc
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Incase anyone is still confused as the topic creator was. The are talking about the HiDEf Media market. The will no longer release titles on Hd-DVD. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THEY WONT RELEASE TITLES ON DVD.

Class Over.

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#21 teebeenz
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Word is this year PS3 is getting a BD 2.0 update which is the base spec most people will use so by years end the PS3 will have quite the boost from HD fans.
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#22 Zemus
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I just want this stupid war to be over so I can start buying HD Movies. I Refuse to buy any until there is 1 clear winner that releases EVERYTHING on 1 format. This is why I refuse to buy a HD-DVD player or a Blueray player.

However I do have a PS3 so Technically I do have Blueray......Guess I should be Renting my movies for that lol but I still havn't yet.

but until there is 1 clear winner I will not buy any HD movies. Im not throwing my money away incase said side loses and I have a bunch of paperweights laying around.

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but until there is 1 clear winner I will not buy any HD movies. Im not throwing my money away incase said side loses and I have a bunch of paperweights laying around.Zemus

Exactly what I'm thinking. Don't know how many of you were around when VHS and Betamax were competing video tape formats, and if you haven't heard of Betamax, well, it's'cause it ain't around anymore.And either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray will be joining it eventually.

Hopefully the victor will be decided soon, b/c I just got a new HDTV :D

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Two things, Blu-Ray is actually doing good a lot of companies are siding with it because of its specs and second it's called the Dark Knight.Strife88

Two more things you do know that most companies have sided with Blu-Ray so Warner going over too isn't that much of a surprise and the second its going to come out on regular DVD as well so you can either buy it on DVD or Blu-Ray and I guess you think that they are only releasing it on Blu-Ray and not Standard DVD but thats not the case if they did that they're profits would't even be a quarter of what they could have had because most people don't even own a HD player yet.

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[QUOTE="iloverikku11"]Batman Begins 2 lolGabrialTehall

you did not like Batman Begins?


the next one is called The Dar Knight.
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[QUOTE="Strife88"]Two things, Blu-Ray is actually doing good a lot of companies are siding with it because of its specs and second it's called the Dark Knight.julianwelton

Two more things you do know that most companies have sided with Blu-Ray so Warner going over too isn't that much of a surprise and the second its going to come out on regular DVD as well so you can either buy it on DVD or Blu-Ray and I guess you think that they are only releasing it on Blu-Ray and not Standard DVD but thats not the case if they did that they're profits would't even be a quarter of what they could have had because most people don't even own a HD player yet.

well thats why companies are pushing consumers to buy more HD players so they are not failing and not losing their investments

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[QUOTE="iloverikku11"]Batman Begins 2 lolGabrialTehall

you did not like Batman Begins?

I think hes just laughing at the title Batman Begins 2 because it sounds really stupid you know beginning twice and what not and most people know its going to be called The Dark Knight.

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#28 DZBricktop
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Too many people are confusing Blu-Ray beating HD-DVD as meaning Blu-Ray is doing good. Both HD formats combined arent making a dent in the DVD market. I do wish someone would bow out and let therebe one universal format so i can start buying some HD movies. But first and foremost, im a gamer, and i dont care what format my games are on.
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#29 rorywillis
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I think the whole idea of putting faith into either format is stupid. While I have the HD-DVD add-on, I recognize it is only a short-term joy. Pretty soon we will all be watching movies in Hi-Def without having to utilize a disk of any kind. sro2688

wow, my thoughts exactly. i mean look at computers now having solid state harddrives (no disk/moving parts/more reliable). im guessing that is going to be the next big thing. everyone is just going to have to catch on. soon itll all be stored and retrieved on some type of memory.

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#30 flash69
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im a gamer and a film nut and gutted about this news as i have started my hd dvd collection. Now ill have to buy a ps3 as its the cheapest blu ray player about
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#31 arfy2
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I hope both Hi def formats just go away and there end up being lots of sites where we can just download our Hi Def movies. It would be cheaper too because we don't have to pay for packaging or the disc.
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#33 teebeenz
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Few things to note: 1. BD has the vast majority of industry support before it even launched, HDDVD was asked not to launch as it would just cause issues. This ment BD had won day one. 2. DVD isnt competing with BD, Studios make DVDs and when they wanna switch they just stop. Saying BD isnt big in the market is simply due to the companies not pushing yet, and they wont till BDLive is out. 3. New Line just changed, which means LOTRs and The Hobbit will be on BD.
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#34 teebeenz
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I hope both Hi def formats just go away and there end up being lots of sites where we can just download our Hi Def movies. It would be cheaper too because we don't have to pay for packaging or the disc. arfy2
In most countries you cant even download 50gigs a month let alone whenever you feel like it. Its simply not viable, which is why the disk formats exist.
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I think the whole idea of putting faith into either format is stupid. While I have the HD-DVD add-on, I recognize it is only a short-term joy. Pretty soon we will all be watching movies in Hi-Def without having to utilize a disk of any kind. sro2688

So true. It will all be downloadable which saves us all cash, to a certain extent..

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[QUOTE="arfy2"]I hope both Hi def formats just go away and there end up being lots of sites where we can just download our Hi Def movies. It would be cheaper too because we don't have to pay for packaging or the disc. teebeenz
In most countries you cant even download 50gigs a month let alone whenever you feel like it. Its simply not viable, which is why the disk formats exist.

You do know the Hi-Def moves are like 5 gigs at the most, right? The rest of the "gigs" being used on the HD-DVD or bluray is all content that no one even cares about.

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#38 teebeenz
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You do know the Hi-Def moves are like 5 gigs at the most, right? The rest of the "gigs" being used on the HD-DVD or bluray is all content that no one even cares about.xsubtownerx
Yeah, thats why DVDs look just like BluRay.
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All HD-DVD has that's major right now is Universal and Dreamworks/Pixar.Strife88

HD DVD has Universal/Dreamworks and Paramount. Disney owns Pixar which is obviously exclusive to Blu Ray.

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[QUOTE="JohnP78"][[QUOTE="76ers"][QUOTE="arab_prince"]

[QUOTE="76ers"]HD-DVD is obviously not selling and Blu-Ray is. So I don't see how Warner Bros. would be losing a lot money if they are exclusive to Blu-Ray.MarineXXII

Not everyone has made the transition from DVD to HD DVD/Blu Ray.

That's not the point. The point is that Warner Bros will make more money from Blu-Ray and not HD-DVD.

Yeah. WB ditched HD-DVD.

NNNNNOOOOO!!!! now i have to buy a PS3, this sucks, i was hoping HD-DVD wouldnt lose big names like this, o well

No u wont MS isnt tied to HD-DVD like sony is to Blu-Ray so if MS really wanted to they could Release a Blu-Ray drive for the Xbox

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#41 xsubtownerx
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MS should just focus on allowing downloads of the full copy of HiDef movies.
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[QUOTE="iloverikku11"]Batman Begins 2 lolGabrialTehall

you did not like Batman Begins?

Hes laughing because the movie is called The Dark Knight and the guy who said it is an idiot.

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This IS the sole reason I DONT LIKE BLU RAY. I cant wait until blu ray becomes the standard and then everyone starts complaining about how they wish they could back up their movies and do other things like put them on personal media devices. But YOU WONT BE ABLE TO. SONY IS A **** COMPANY WHO IS TRYING TO FORCE ITS DRM (digital rights management) BULL**** INTO EVERY CORNER OF THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY. Its been one thing after another most recently: HDMI and NOW BLU RAY. THIS IS BAD FOR US CONSUMERS but noone will realize it until its too late.

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[QUOTE="JohnP78"][[QUOTE="76ers"][QUOTE="arab_prince"]

[QUOTE="76ers"]HD-DVD is obviously not selling and Blu-Ray is. So I don't see how Warner Bros. would be losing a lot money if they are exclusive to Blu-Ray.MarineXXII

Not everyone has made the transition from DVD to HD DVD/Blu Ray.

That's not the point. The point is that Warner Bros will make more money from Blu-Ray and not HD-DVD.

Yeah. WB ditched HD-DVD.

NNNNNOOOOO!!!! now i have to buy a PS3, this sucks, i was hoping HD-DVD wouldnt lose big names like this, o well

Come on now. IT ain't that bad. The PS3 is a great system with great games.
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#45 teebeenz
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All coms down to 1 thing. They're allowed to protect their stuff from being stolen.
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#46 fs_metal
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All coms down to 1 thing. They're allowed to protect their stuff from being stolen. teebeenz
And that isn't a problem.
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#47 Bobert66
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I know this does not really have something to do with the 360 but, I just read somthing saying by may of this year Warner Brothers movies are going to only release on blu-ray.................wtf, so, for example........When Batman Begins 2 comes out, I wont be able to watch it if I dont have a blu-ray...............Warner has to of lost there minds or somthing, they will lose alot of moneyGabrialTehall
You'll be able to watch it, just not in HD, it'll come out on standard DVD.

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[QUOTE="76ers"]HD-DVD is obviously not selling and Blu-Ray is. So I don't see how Warner Bros. would be losing a lot money if they are exclusive to Blu-Ray.arab_prince

Not everyone has made the transition from DVD to HD DVD/Blu Ray.

I know I haven't. I think both Blu Ray and HD-DVD are complete nonsense.

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#49 Zemus
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The Format war is total nonsense. but its here and one side will win and I will refuse to buy movies until one wins.

I watch movies in HD on the Movie Network and yea they look WAY BETTER, but Thats Free, I will not buy a Blueray Disc or HD DVD until there is only 1.

Its just a Money War for the 2 Companies and I refuse to get stuck in the middle.

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#50 chicagog19
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Besides having one universal format, why exactly do people back blu-ray. HD-DVD and Blu-ray look the same in picture quality. HD-DVD is region code free and Blu-ray is not. Blu-ray has stronger drm which means its harder to copy disks.

People seem to have alot more problems with blu-ray disks not playing because of all the different firmware and ethenet not being standard on all blu-ray players(check the amazon reviews and forums if you don't believe me.

The only thing that blu-ray really has over hd-dvd is the space on the disk which is negligible when talking about picture quality and cooler sounding name.