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#1 deactivated-5f20133fe9201
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i dont no why, i went to play live last night and it worked fine, i dont have a mic(it broke) and i go to play now and i am banned until Nov 11th, could it be my gamer tag (which is Rzrkissedwrists) or my Motto (The Black Parade) i didnt mean any of it to offened poeple. BUt they didnt even say why i was banned, is there a way i can find out?
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#2 deactivated-5f20133fe9201
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could it be for playing a downloaded and burned off version of the GH3 demo
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#3 DZBricktop
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Kinda sux they didnt tell you what it was for. How are you supposed to not do it again if you dont know what it was in the first place?
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#4 Starshootr
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Probably the latter reason with the burning of the GH3 Demo. It's microsoft, they don't like anything you do unless it gets them money!
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#5 deactivated-5f20133fe9201
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can i like call M$ and ask them why, or will they just not tell me
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#6 BikerPunk
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Probably the latter reason with the burning of the GH3 Demo. It's microsoft, they don't like anything you do unless it gets them money!Starshootr

ding ding ding we have a winner. Burning = BAD!!!

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#7 DZBricktop
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How would they know hes playing a burned copy of a game? Is that even possible? That would be a great way to scare pirates. :)
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#8 deactivated-5f20133fe9201
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they did it on Attack of the Show on G4, so i did it. i didnt think it was "bad"
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#9 branketra
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It could be any of these things, unfortunately for you. You probably can find out and you should probably call up 1-800-4-MYXBOX or check xbox.com's xbox live customer support. They emailed me pretty fast when I had a problem. As far as solving the problem.....
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How would they know hes playing a burned copy of a game? Is that even possible? That would be a great way to scare pirates. :)DZBricktop

considering PS2 had anti piracy on it. I bought the Mod CHip, i had a few burnt games, however whenever you went to take them online, the system would do a check and read foa alterations within the system. I had the chip you could shut off, so it was fine, as i bought all the games i wanted for online.

When your system reads the disc, it looks for a "serial" sort of thing on there. when you burn it, the "serial" changes, thus the system can recognize a burnt disc, at least thats how PS did it. With the Xbox, and being online, they are able to just scan it, they see a burnt copy of something, and your shutdown.

The same way they shutdown Halo 3 players that got thier discs before release. Yes, people said it was not true, however i read the annoucement, do may the prehaloers Rest In Peace.

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#11 lionheart1981oz
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May i ask if your 360 if modded? if it is and you were connected to live and it detected a copied version....

Then there is your answer.

Xbox live is able to tell if your 360 is modded for some reason - one of the reasos why i didnt get mine modded.

My mate had his modded and he played a burnt game, next day he got banned :)

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#12 deactivated-5f20133fe9201
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no its not modded
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Were you a jerk to people online? Did you lend out your gamertag to a friend or anyone else?
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#14 deactivated-5f20133fe9201
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no i dont even have a mic its broken, and no i dont lend gamertags
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#15 sammysalsa
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i dunno about the burnt disc though because as u said it was only a burnt copy of a demo, and aren;t demos usually free?
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#16 pinionxl
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maybe MS just doesn't like emo kids
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#17 sunnystarz
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could it be for playing a downloaded and burned off version of the GH3 demoMr_Abandon

hahahahahha....hahahahahah maybe...???

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#18 Recca168
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just call MS and ask. it'd give you a much better answer than anything you'll get off here
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#19 axxez94
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Your Emo? :S

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#20 deactivated-58fbfc61e27fe
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HOw can you even play the burned version of GH3 if your 360 is not even modded. Makes no sense to me.
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#21 axxez94
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Flashed?
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#22 Keving7
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the real question is why would you have a burned disc of a free demo when u can download it from xblm??
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#23 ISuperGamerI
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the real question is why would you have a burned disc of a free demo when u can download it from xblm??Keving7

Unless he has Dial-Up which then he needs to upgrade to a high speed Internet connection. He might of burned the demo from the December issue of OXM.

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the real question is why would you have a burned disc of a free demo when u can download it from xblm??Keving7

Thats a good question.I know there was a demo of GHIII on the net you could download and burn that came out a week before the demo on the marketplace. Guess he just couldnt wait.

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#25 marcus4hire
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maybe MS just doesn't like emo kidspinionxl

BAHAHAHAHA..........

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#26 slayer85
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maybe your emo gamertag got you banned
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#27 III-Rob-III
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maybe MS just doesn't like emo kidspinionxl

:lol:

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#28 mrgab
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If you were banned from Live for 'no reason', why are you here and not talking to a Live rep/customer service?
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[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]How would they know hes playing a burned copy of a game? Is that even possible? That would be a great way to scare pirates. :)BikerPunk

considering PS2 had anti piracy on it. I bought the Mod CHip, i had a few burnt games, however whenever you went to take them online, the system would do a check and read foa alterations within the system. I had the chip you could shut off, so it was fine, as i bought all the games i wanted for online.

When your system reads the disc, it looks for a "serial" sort of thing on there. when you burn it, the "serial" changes, thus the system can recognize a burnt disc, at least thats how PS did it. With the Xbox, and being online, they are able to just scan it, they see a burnt copy of something, and your shutdown.

The same way they shutdown Halo 3 players that got thier discs before release. Yes, people said it was not true, however i read the annoucement, do may the prehaloers Rest In Peace.

wow you dont have a damn clue about how technology works, do you?

First off there is a 0% chance that you got banned for playing a burned copy of the guitar hero 3 demo, the demo wasnt your problem. More than likely this is a simple glitch or mistake in the system as long as you have done nothing wrong. as you state.

Next, microsoft has no sure fire way of knowing if you are playing a burnt game or a leaglly owned game. They have made some "tricks" to detect burnt games and ban consoles however nothing has worked 100% yet. The eastiest way to check is to check the firmware hash code for alterations(ie a custom firmware is installed). Another way is to use signal mapping to determine if there is a mod chip or other device diverting past the security chip. To detect burnt games is guess work though and microsoft latest atempt proved to be somewhat succesful. They monitored/record read/write times/speeds of the dvd drives to watch for majour groupings of abnormalities. (ie not just one game but all of your games) and sent out bans to those consoles. I sincerily doubt yu have any idea what your talking about when you talk of "serial" sort of thing inculded in the disc. A disc is a solid state media that doesnt have the ability to think or change anything.

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#30 SentryGunner411
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People get banned for stupid reasons all the time. Your not the first.

Yes, Microsoft sucks. Yes, they are complete idiot.

However Live is the only On-line service that's available for the xbox.

Xbox Connect doesn't count because its crap. :P

Maybe this video will cheer you up: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lxzJnuWr7zs

:D

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#31 Nasukashi
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my 360 is modded and i can play online when i want to O.o... and i have friends that have their 360s modded but they play online all the time, u can get a thing to help u play online with a modded 360.. like a hacker thing... dont know how or wth its called in the US though

anyway, if urs isnt modded i guess the reason is u did something online, maybe downloaded something when u weren suppose to be able to? i dont know =S, call them and ask lol
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#32 MrSickVisionz
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You played a burnt version of a game. Thats clearly why. Why did you do this? You have XBL... and you have the internet. It was free to download, why didn't you just download it or get a demo disc from a magazine (assuming its a disc only demo). You bought this on your self. Only play legit versions of games/demos and you will have no issues.
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[QUOTE="BikerPunk"]

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]How would they know hes playing a burned copy of a game? Is that even possible? That would be a great way to scare pirates. :)Love_Hina_Lover

considering PS2 had anti piracy on it. I bought the Mod CHip, i had a few burnt games, however whenever you went to take them online, the system would do a check and read foa alterations within the system. I had the chip you could shut off, so it was fine, as i bought all the games i wanted for online.

When your system reads the disc, it looks for a "serial" sort of thing on there. when you burn it, the "serial" changes, thus the system can recognize a burnt disc, at least thats how PS did it. With the Xbox, and being online, they are able to just scan it, they see a burnt copy of something, and your shutdown.

The same way they shutdown Halo 3 players that got thier discs before release. Yes, people said it was not true, however i read the annoucement, do may the prehaloers Rest In Peace.

wow you dont have a damn clue about how technology works, do you?

First off there is a 0% chance that you got banned for playing a burned copy of the guitar hero 3 demo, the demo wasnt your problem. More than likely this is a simple glitch or mistake in the system as long as you have done nothing wrong. as you state.

Next, microsoft has no sure fire way of knowing if you are playing a burnt game or a leaglly owned game. They have made some "tricks" to detect burnt games and ban consoles however nothing has worked 100% yet. The eastiest way to check is to check the firmware hash code for alterations(ie a custom firmware is installed). Another way is to use signal mapping to determine if there is a mod chip or other device diverting past the security chip. To detect burnt games is guess work though and microsoft latest atempt proved to be somewhat succesful. They monitored/record read/write times/speeds of the dvd drives to watch for majour groupings of abnormalities. (ie not just one game but all of your games) and sent out bans to those consoles. I sincerily doubt yu have any idea what your talking about when you talk of "serial" sort of thing inculded in the disc. A disc is a solid state media that doesnt have the ability to think or change anything.

Super a lecture
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#34 SentryGunner411
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If Microsoft knew he was playing a burned game it would not be a suspension, it would be a perma ban.
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#35 killerfist
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[QUOTE="Starshootr"]Probably the latter reason with the burning of the GH3 Demo. It's microsoft, they don't like anything you do unless it gets them money!BikerPunk

ding ding ding we have a winner. Burning = BAD!!!

and why is that? Ive played tons of burned CD's on my xbox. or is it just because it is a game?

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#37 Cwagmire21
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Wow, making fun of people over the internet.... sooo cool.

Anyways - I would definitely call up MS and see what they said you did, if anything

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#38 PS360Fanboy
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Probaly the GH3 burned demo
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[QUOTE="BikerPunk"]

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]How would they know hes playing a burned copy of a game? Is that even possible? That would be a great way to scare pirates. :)Love_Hina_Lover

considering PS2 had anti piracy on it. I bought the Mod CHip, i had a few burnt games, however whenever you went to take them online, the system would do a check and read foa alterations within the system. I had the chip you could shut off, so it was fine, as i bought all the games i wanted for online.

When your system reads the disc, it looks for a "serial" sort of thing on there. when you burn it, the "serial" changes, thus the system can recognize a burnt disc, at least thats how PS did it. With the Xbox, and being online, they are able to just scan it, they see a burnt copy of something, and your shutdown.

The same way they shutdown Halo 3 players that got thier discs before release. Yes, people said it was not true, however i read the annoucement, do may the prehaloers Rest In Peace.

The eastiest way to check is to check the firmware hash code for alterations(ie a custom firmware is installed).

MS has absolutely no way of checking for a custom firmware, this is not possible, before you lecture him on what he know's, perhaps get your stuf strait? For the 360, all bans for piracy have been based on the disc itself, pfi/dmi, security sectors, challenge/responces.

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#40 andrewhateme
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Why wouldnt you just download the GH3 demo and play it??? Seems like a waste of time to have someone download then burn it to a disc...If you honestly think they banned you because your quote said "the black parade" then your just plain dumb.
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#41 jstarzyk
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The GHIII demo CD came out BEFORE it was out on Live. I disconnected from Live when I played it though. There's no way they could've told if you were playing a burnt copy, because it was an image of the demo CD that came in THPG.
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#42 deactivated-5f20133fe9201
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I burnt the demo off before it came to market place
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#43 forgot_my_name
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People get banned for stupid reasons all the time. Your not the first.

Yes, Microsoft sucks. Yes, they are complete idiot.

However Live is the only On-line service that's available for the xbox.

Xbox Connect doesn't count because its crap. :P

Maybe this video will cheer you up: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lxzJnuWr7zs

:D

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SentryGunner411

Er, just wondering, what is Xbox Connect?

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#44 Packt
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"RzrKissedWrists"

*laughs*

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youve been a very naughty little boy... :P (Fred)
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"RzrKissedWrists"

*laughs*

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X 2, lololololololol

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#47 jorgedodo
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they also banned me ofr nothing.. i mean i didnt even burn something .. i was just playing gears and then it just went away and a message saying i was banned appeared and it didnt tell meuntil when.. but i still cant play .......

whats xbox connect

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#48 deactivated-5f20133fe9201
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i emailed MS freaking out, and i got un banned, i realized i got banned for my motto "ThE Black Parade" i didnt mean it to be racist at all
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[QUOTE="BikerPunk"]

[QUOTE="DZBricktop"]How would they know hes playing a burned copy of a game? Is that even possible? That would be a great way to scare pirates. :)Love_Hina_Lover

considering PS2 had anti piracy on it. I bought the Mod CHip, i had a few burnt games, however whenever you went to take them online, the system would do a check and read foa alterations within the system. I had the chip you could shut off, so it was fine, as i bought all the games i wanted for online.

When your system reads the disc, it looks for a "serial" sort of thing on there. when you burn it, the "serial" changes, thus the system can recognize a burnt disc, at least thats how PS did it. With the Xbox, and being online, they are able to just scan it, they see a burnt copy of something, and your shutdown.

The same way they shutdown Halo 3 players that got thier discs before release. Yes, people said it was not true, however i read the annoucement, do may the prehaloers Rest In Peace.

wow you dont have a damn clue about how technology works, do you?

First off there is a 0% chance that you got banned for playing a burned copy of the guitar hero 3 demo, the demo wasnt your problem. More than likely this is a simple glitch or mistake in the system as long as you have done nothing wrong. as you state.

Next, microsoft has no sure fire way of knowing if you are playing a burnt game or a leaglly owned game. They have made some "tricks" to detect burnt games and ban consoles however nothing has worked 100% yet. The eastiest way to check is to check the firmware hash code for alterations(ie a custom firmware is installed). Another way is to use signal mapping to determine if there is a mod chip or other device diverting past the security chip. To detect burnt games is guess work though and microsoft latest atempt proved to be somewhat succesful. They monitored/record read/write times/speeds of the dvd drives to watch for majour groupings of abnormalities. (ie not just one game but all of your games) and sent out bans to those consoles. I sincerily doubt yu have any idea what your talking about when you talk of "serial" sort of thing inculded in the disc. A disc is a solid state media that doesnt have the ability to think or change anything.

I know what you mean. I have been doing um....something (not going to say what it is in case an M$ employee is looking) that they don't want me to do (not modding or anything like cheating, but prohibited nonetheless), and I haven't ever been banned, prevented from doing it,or warned not to.

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#50 AENEMA_TOOLOGY
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i emailed MS freaking out, and i got un banned, i realized i got banned for my motto "ThE Black Parade" i didnt mean it to be racist at allMr_Abandon

yup just what i thought,I was gonna tell you a while back that if it was your motto than it wouldve said "Code of Conduct" where your motto is supposed to be.Well i guess all those dumb people who said it was the GH3 demo sure look stupid. :D