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#1 Ashley_wwe
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I go tthis game yesterday, and I am loving it. The campaign is cool, and the multiplayer... well, it WOULD be awesome. I have spent more time TRYING to get in to a multiplayer game rather than actually playing it, and when I do, I often get an error which means I have to dashboard-quit with no other choice.

It is either "Failed to connect to session" (or something to that extent), then after the screen goes black and the loading screen should be coming on, it says something like "Lost connection to session". When I finally get in a game, I have had a glitch where you can't deploy/respawn, and you can't even quit to the main menu, because thepause screen is hidden behind the deploy screen... so I have no choice but to dashboard-quit.

To be honest with you, I am starting to get a bit fed up with EA servers, especially since a lot of the time they always seem faulty (depends on the game), and not only that but they also close the servers for games that aren't aws popular after about 2 years or so.

I do love Battlefield 3, I really do... but if this game is always like this, then I think I might just give up trying to play this game online. I wish EA would just switch over to the usual Xbox 360 servers :(.

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#2 YoungSinatra25
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The Battlefield games always have a rough launch to be honest. I'm not sure if you've had any experience with previous games in this series but its actually common. Somewhat expected.

I'm not saying it'll ever be 100% no guarantees with networking but in the coming weeks it'll improve if the other Battlefield's are any indication of what to expect from DICE and this series in general.

IMO its worth it to wait it out, it was with the other installments.

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battlefields always had and always will have a rough launch.Serverwise BC2 wasnt much better when it launched to be honest its just the general hype of everony wanting to play it i think.

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Any game with dedicated servers takes a few days to smooth things out. Actually, this launch is better (at least in terms of LAG) than the BC1 and 2, prolly due to the beta. Patience, my son, patience.

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#5 Gen007
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yeah EA has never luanched a BF game this gen with things being screwy at the start but it will eventually become a smooth exp.

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yeah EA has never luanched a BF game this gen with things being screwy at the start but it will eventually become a smooth exp.

Gen007
Isn't it bad that we just except this and have basically gotten used to it? Other games don't have these server problems day 1 and if they do it doesn't last up to four days now.
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#7 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="Gen007"]

yeah EA has never luanched a BF game this gen with things being screwy at the start but it will eventually become a smooth exp.

firefox59

Isn't it bad that we just except this and have basically gotten used to it? Other games don't have these server problems day 1 and if they do it doesn't last up to four days now.

Yea, they also don't have dedicated servers. It's a trade off any hardcore gamer is willing to take.

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#8 Gen007
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[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Gen007"]

yeah EA has never luanched a BF game this gen with things being screwy at the start but it will eventually become a smooth exp.

HilbillyRokstar

Isn't it bad that we just except this and have basically gotten used to it? Other games don't have these server problems day 1 and if they do it doesn't last up to four days now.

Yea, they also don't have dedicated servers. It's a trade off any hardcore gamer is willing to take.

yeah i have to agree im just happy it has servers in the first place when so many console games dont.

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[QUOTE="Gen007"]

yeah EA has never luanched a BF game this gen with things being screwy at the start but it will eventually become a smooth exp.

firefox59

Isn't it bad that we just except this and have basically gotten used to it? Other games don't have these server problems day 1 and if they do it doesn't last up to four days now.

CoD, Halo and Gears games have all had rough launches. Gears 3 didn't have many problems at all on launch, but the previous titles did, Reach had issues the first 1-2 weeks (super, super long matchmaking sequences, for example), and every CoD ever has had issues during launch. Black Ops and MW2 were unplayable with friends for me during the first few weeks after release.

Sports game also have issues on launch. Every NBA 2k game ever has had big server problems right after launch. Same with Madden, Fifa (to a lesser extent), etc...

Tons of other non-franchise titles have had similar issues too... Brink, Homefront, Borderlands, etc... and those games were based around the MP...

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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="Gen007"]

yeah EA has never luanched a BF game this gen with things being screwy at the start but it will eventually become a smooth exp.

Isn't it bad that we just except this and have basically gotten used to it? Other games don't have these server problems day 1 and if they do it doesn't last up to four days now.

CoD, Halo and Gears games have all had rough launches. Gears 3 didn't have many problems at all on launch, but the previous titles did, Reach had issues the first 1-2 weeks (super, super long matchmaking sequences, for example), and every CoD ever has had issues during launch. Black Ops and MW2 were unplayable with friends for me during the first few weeks after release.

Sports game also have issues on launch. Every NBA 2k game ever has had big server problems right after launch. Same with Madden, Fifa (to a lesser extent), etc...

Tons of other non-franchise titles have had similar issues too... Brink, Homefront, Borderlands, etc... and those games were based around the MP...

See I wouldn't have said what I did if I didn't have experience with other launch titles. I bought Reach and MW2 and played them the night of their release and never had a problem with either. Not a single problem. When I get kicked six matches in a row with Battlefield I just get sick of it and stop playing. Gears 3 had a beta for a reason, so that they wouldn't have server problems. The shouldn't have and didn't, just like Battlefield shouldn't. Brink is the only other game, like you mentioned, that I have had problems with. But that was more so matchmaking and I never got kicked from a game. I'm just saying I don't think a game like this (EA's huge important title) should have these problems.
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#13 elpooz
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="firefox59"] Isn't it bad that we just except this and have basically gotten used to it? Other games don't have these server problems day 1 and if they do it doesn't last up to four days now.firefox59

CoD, Halo and Gears games have all had rough launches. Gears 3 didn't have many problems at all on launch, but the previous titles did, Reach had issues the first 1-2 weeks (super, super long matchmaking sequences, for example), and every CoD ever has had issues during launch. Black Ops and MW2 were unplayable with friends for me during the first few weeks after release.

Sports game also have issues on launch. Every NBA 2k game ever has had big server problems right after launch. Same with Madden, Fifa (to a lesser extent), etc...

Tons of other non-franchise titles have had similar issues too... Brink, Homefront, Borderlands, etc... and those games were based around the MP...

See I wouldn't have said what I did if I didn't have experience with other launch titles. I bought Reach and MW2 and played them the night of their release and never had a problem with either. Not a single problem. When I get kicked six matches in a row with Battlefield I just get sick of it and stop playing. Gears 3 had a beta for a reason, so that they wouldn't have server problems. The shouldn't have and didn't, just like Battlefield shouldn't. Brink is the only other game, like you mentioned, that I have had problems with. But that was more so matchmaking and I never got kicked from a game. I'm just saying I don't think a game like this (EA's huge important title) should have these problems.

EA only spends so much money on server space before launch. They wait until they see how many people are actually playing at once, on average, and then spend however much more they need to on their servers to make sure everyone has a smooth experience with the MP. If they were to buy too much server space pre-launch, they'd be wasting money. It's stingy on their part, but also smart, and they are a business after all.

Gears didn't sell like BF3 is and didn't have nearly as many people playing online in the first week as BF3 does right now, so it had much less server stress, and they probably had more than enough servers ready pre-launch because they expected to not have a CoD-size or BF-size community. BF3 has hundreds of thousands online at once right now, Gears had maybe 100,000, if that, at launch.

And I know tons of people that could barely play the last two CoD titles around launch, even alone. MW2 had one of the worst launches I've honestly ever seen, and that was without dedicated servers. In comparison, BF3 and EA are handling this launch pretty well...

Waiting a week or two for the game's servers to stabilize isn't a problem at all imo.

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[QUOTE="YoungSinatra25"]The Battlefield games always have a rough launch to be honest. I'm not sure if you've had any experience with previous games in this series but its actually common. Somewhat expected. I'm not saying it'll ever be 100% no guarantees with networking but in the coming weeks it'll improve if the other Battlefield's are any indication of what to expect from DICE and this series in general. IMO its worth it to wait it out, it was with the other installments.

Yeah, I've been a "launch fan" of Battlefield ever since the first Bad Company. To be honest, I don't remember any of the other games having this many problems :P. It gets so bad (this is also strange) that I have to go in my brothers room to play online when he's not on the Xbox... I have much greater chances of getting in a Battlefield 3 game that way. I almost instantly get online that way, but on mine... Quick Match NEVER works and the server way of doing it takes AGES since it always says like "21/24" or something like that, but actually being full... and then not working anyway even when it's not. I also get every CoD for Christmas, except for Modern Warfare 2 which I got on release. I don't ever remember having any problems with it to be honest... it just always seemed the same to me, from what I remember. Maybe me having so BAD problems with Battlefield 3 is because every other game seemed pretty fine to me lol :P. With that being said, Homefront was unplayable the first week, I think for everybody. You couldn't even join a game... not even attemptable. But when it worked after that, it was awesome!
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[QUOTE="firefox59"] See I wouldn't have said what I did if I didn't have experience with other launch titles. I bought Reach and MW2 and played them the night of their release and never had a problem with either. Not a single problem. When I get kicked six matches in a row with Battlefield I just get sick of it and stop playing. Gears 3 had a beta for a reason, so that they wouldn't have server problems. The shouldn't have and didn't, just like Battlefield shouldn't. Brink is the only other game, like you mentioned, that I have had problems with. But that was more so matchmaking and I never got kicked from a game. I'm just saying I don't think a game like this (EA's huge important title) should have these problems.elpooz

EA only spends so much money on server space before launch. They wait until they see how many people are actually playing at once, on average, and then spend however much more they need to on their servers to make sure everyone has a smooth experience with the MP. If they were to buy too much server space pre-launch, they'd be wasting money. It's stingy on their part, but also smart, and they are a business after all.

Gears didn't sell like BF3 is and didn't have nearly as many people playing online in the first week as BF3 does right now, so it had much less server stress, and they probably had more than enough servers ready pre-launch because they expected to not have a CoD-size or BF-size community. BF3 has hundreds of thousands online at once right now, Gears had maybe 100,000, if that, at launch.

And I know tons of people that could barely play the last two CoD titles around launch, even alone. MW2 had one of the worst launches I've honestly ever seen, and that was without dedicated servers. In comparison, BF3 and EA are handling this launch pretty well...

Waiting a week or two for the game's servers to stabilize isn't a problem at all imo.

Well I'm not here to argue numbers but Gears sold 3 million the first week so I'd think more than 100K would be on. I completely understand their business strategy, however that hasn't been the problem. Yeah the servers were down but that was only for a couple hours. The problem for me has been getting kicked from games and non of what you have accomplished being saved. I played for two hours the other day and didn't register a exp. point. I'll admit I don't know everything about servers but does the amount of server space affect games that have already found a server and are already in progress? Cause that was the problem. Again it's not THAT big of a deal, its just that other games don't seem to be having this problem.
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[QUOTE="Ashley_wwe"][QUOTE="YoungSinatra25"]The Battlefield games always have a rough launch to be honest. I'm not sure if you've had any experience with previous games in this series but its actually common. Somewhat expected. I'm not saying it'll ever be 100% no guarantees with networking but in the coming weeks it'll improve if the other Battlefield's are any indication of what to expect from DICE and this series in general.IMO its worth it to wait it out, it was with the other installments. Yeah, I've been a "launch fan" of Battlefield ever since the first Bad Company. To be honest, I don't remember any of the other games having this many problems :P. It gets so bad (this is also strange) that I have to go in my brothers room to play online when he's not on the Xbox... I have much greater chances of getting in a Battlefield 3 game that way. I almost instantly get online that way, but on mine... Quick Match NEVER works and the server way of doing it takes AGES since it always says like "21/24" or something like that, but actually being full... and then not working anyway even when it's not. I also get every CoD for Christmas, except for Modern Warfare 2 which I got on release. I don't ever remember having any problems with it to be honest... it just always seemed the same to me, from what I remember. Maybe me having so BAD problems with Battlefield 3 is because every other game seemed pretty fine to me lol :P. With that being said, Homefront was unplayable the first week, I think for everybody. You couldn't even join a game... not even attemptable. But when it worked after that, it was awesome!

Well, I haven't had much problem getting into games. The only real complaint I have had is getting my friends into the game (on the same team), and occasional lag. Maybe it has to do with where you live.
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I'm having close to the same thing happen to me - lately, I've been joining and playing just fine, today however... not the case. If I do join in one - it doesn't last long before I lose connection to the server...
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I'm having close to the same thing happen to me - lately, I've been joining and playing just fine, today however... not the case. If I do join in one - it doesn't last long before I lose connection to the server...Thuganomic05
Just tried it, joined right up and no lag.
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I've yet to be kicked out of a game... :\ But as soon as a game is over and during the loading screen, it goes down. Lag hasn't really been an issue but a few times, mainly with running and getting caught on invisibile objects or whatnot.
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="firefox59"] See I wouldn't have said what I did if I didn't have experience with other launch titles. I bought Reach and MW2 and played them the night of their release and never had a problem with either. Not a single problem. When I get kicked six matches in a row with Battlefield I just get sick of it and stop playing. Gears 3 had a beta for a reason, so that they wouldn't have server problems. The shouldn't have and didn't, just like Battlefield shouldn't. Brink is the only other game, like you mentioned, that I have had problems with. But that was more so matchmaking and I never got kicked from a game. I'm just saying I don't think a game like this (EA's huge important title) should have these problems.firefox59

EA only spends so much money on server space before launch. They wait until they see how many people are actually playing at once, on average, and then spend however much more they need to on their servers to make sure everyone has a smooth experience with the MP. If they were to buy too much server space pre-launch, they'd be wasting money. It's stingy on their part, but also smart, and they are a business after all.

Gears didn't sell like BF3 is and didn't have nearly as many people playing online in the first week as BF3 does right now, so it had much less server stress, and they probably had more than enough servers ready pre-launch because they expected to not have a CoD-size or BF-size community. BF3 has hundreds of thousands online at once right now, Gears had maybe 100,000, if that, at launch.

And I know tons of people that could barely play the last two CoD titles around launch, even alone. MW2 had one of the worst launches I've honestly ever seen, and that was without dedicated servers. In comparison, BF3 and EA are handling this launch pretty well...

Waiting a week or two for the game's servers to stabilize isn't a problem at all imo.

Well I'm not here to argue numbers but Gears sold 3 million the first week so I'd think more than 100K would be on. I completely understand their business strategy, however that hasn't been the problem. Yeah the servers were down but that was only for a couple hours. The problem for me has been getting kicked from games and non of what you have accomplished being saved. I played for two hours the other day and didn't register a exp. point. I'll admit I don't know everything about servers but does the amount of server space affect games that have already found a server and are already in progress? Cause that was the problem. Again it's not THAT big of a deal, its just that other games don't seem to be having this problem.

You getting kicked from games or not being able to get in them is probably a result of you connecting to far off servers because there aren't enough in close proximity to you yet. You could also be getting kicked from games because the servers are just plain crashing due to server stress. There have been a bunch of times where they've gone down and kicked everyone playing the game at once. I haven't had the game not save my xp when I get booted from a game yet, it's been pretty good about constantly saving my stats so far.

You might want to go to Server Browser, then to filter and change the region the browser is searching for to whichever is closest to you. My browser was set on Europe at first and since I've changed it to East US, I've encountered a lot less lag. Server Browser is also much more reliable way to get into games as well, because Quick Match is still messed up right now.

Like I said, there are PLENTY of titles that have had horrible/rough launches. In comparison to most, BF3's launch isn't even that bad. I don't think that bad launches should be a normal thing for big titles, but it's just the way things work I guess. I'd rather have them have 2 weeks of iffy servers and then months of quick matchmaking, no lag, and perfect hit detection. Black Ops and MW2 might not have had a rough a launch as this for a lot of people but those games are riddled with lag, bad hit detection and games/lobbies closing a little too often. BF3, like BC2, won't have those issues for the vast majority of it's lifespan, so 2 weeks of iffy servers is more than worth it...

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Oh and Gears sold 3 million first week, BF3 has already sold 10 million and its first week isn't even over, just to give you an idea of how much more stress EA's servers have on them right now. Not trying to make an argument of this, just pointing out that there's a ridiculous amount of people playing this game right now and the server stress is probably pretty crazy...

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I was playing BF3 last night and there was a message on the screen about trouble connecting using "Quick Match." It was saying to use "Server Browse" or something like that. I was able to get into Quick Match just fine, though.

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Not sure how offical this is but...
http://mp1st.com/2011/10/28/battlefield-3-patch-details-jets-pistols-and-ump-will-be-adjusted-and-more/

http://mp1st.com/2011/10/29/new-battlefield-3-patch-details-changes-to-aiming-pp-2000-and-much-more/


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Oh and Gears sold 3 million first week, BF3 has already sold 10 million and its first week isn't even over, just to give you an idea of how much more stress EA's servers have on them right now. Not trying to make an argument of this, just pointing out that there's a ridiculous amount of people playing this game right now and the server stress is probably pretty crazy...

elpooz
But that's across all three platforms. Different servers for different platforms...
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Well, I haven't had much problem getting into games. The only real complaint I have had is getting my friends into the game (on the same team), and occasional lag. Maybe it has to do with where you live.HilbillyRokstar
Nope, my brothers room is across the way and I am able to play online on his Xbox with BF3 a LOT easier than I can, for some reason. With that being said, I have been busy with Campaign (and the rest of the achievements I haven't got for it), and Co-op and the achievements, so I haven't tried the online for a few days. I will probably try it next when I completely finish off the campaign achievements and the co-op missions and achievements. But it's definately not got to do with where I live, it just seems to happen randomly to me.
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I haven't had a problem being kicked from games yet, although some have been laggy. One weird instance happened yesterday where there weren't enough players in the game once it started, then it was about to reset but didn't and everyone else was gone besides me and a friend, where we got the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st mvp achievements without doing anything.

To address your problem, my brother as well used to have a 360. Whenever he would play on XBL, I couldn't, and vice versa. We were using a router so I would imagine the problem lied there.

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[QUOTE="Ghost_702"]I haven't had a problem being kicked from games yet, although some have been laggy. One weird instance happened yesterday where there weren't enough players in the game once it started, then it was about to reset but didn't and everyone else was gone besides me and a friend, where we got the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st mvp achievements without doing anything. To address your problem, my brother as well used to have a 360. Whenever he would play on XBL, I couldn't, and vice versa. We were using a router so I would imagine the problem lied there.

Wow, that's odd. Are the MVP achievements hard to get, by the way? But me and my brother used to share a Xbox 360. But going up for 3 years ago I got my own and we both pretty much always play online, regardless of whether the other player is. I am always logged on to XBL too, every time I am on my Xbox, so it definately isn't a problem. We have even played some games together, such as Battlefield 1943, GTA IV and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 quite a fair bit. So in regards to my problem, it definately is Battlefield 3.
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[QUOTE="Ghost_702"]I haven't had a problem being kicked from games yet, although some have been laggy. One weird instance happened yesterday where there weren't enough players in the game once it started, then it was about to reset but didn't and everyone else was gone besides me and a friend, where we got the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st mvp achievements without doing anything. To address your problem, my brother as well used to have a 360. Whenever he would play on XBL, I couldn't, and vice versa. We were using a router so I would imagine the problem lied there.Ashley_wwe
Wow, that's odd. Are the MVP achievements hard to get, by the way? But me and my brother used to share a Xbox 360. But going up for 3 years ago I got my own and we both pretty much always play online, regardless of whether the other player is. I am always logged on to XBL too, every time I am on my Xbox, so it definately isn't a problem. We have even played some games together, such as Battlefield 1943, GTA IV and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 quite a fair bit. So in regards to my problem, it definately is Battlefield 3.

Yep definitely a Battlefield thing; more like an EA thing. As a few have mentioned before should we be upset if we really expected this to happen in the first place. How did it get to this point???? I don't know, but seriously it will be fixed soon... trust me. Just like you said this is "EA most important game". You don't think they would risk screwing up Battlefield 4 do you??? All I know right now is DICE continues to work on their projects after launch. It will be fixed.

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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

[QUOTE="firefox59"] Isn't it bad that we just except this and have basically gotten used to it? Other games don't have these server problems day 1 and if they do it doesn't last up to four days now.Gen007

Yea, they also don't have dedicated servers. It's a trade off any hardcore gamer is willing to take.

yeah i have to agree im just happy it has servers in the first place when so many console games dont.

This. ill take dedicated servers that take a bit to stabilize over no dedicated servers any day
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#30 Ashley_wwe
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An update - I think it may have been fixed. I went on Quick Match earlier and even chose my own map and gametype, and got straight in (this was because I was waiting for somebody to play Co-op). For the past two days or so I have been playing a lot of Co op also and it's been fine. I will keep trying Multiplayer though, but want to get through Co op first. I don't know why but that Exfiltration mission is giving us so much trouble!! it has also had some weird glitches quite a fair few times.