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#1 UT_Wrestler
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I've never really been able to afford to be a pc gamer, so like many of you, I knew very little about Bioware until they started making games for consoles. Since all their console games have appeared on the xbox/xbox360 platform, I'd like to see which Bioware console game you guys have liked the best so far.

For me it's still Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. It combines traditional wrpg role-playing with a star wars setting and jedi powers. Plus, it has a deep, engaging story that rivals the original film trilogy, along with one of the most memorable plot twists ever seen in a video game. And this is all aside from the fact that you get to choose which side of the force you'll be on. Not only is it my favorite all-time rpg, but it's #2 on my favorite games of all time.

How about you? Which one do you like best and why?

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#2 -DirtySanchez-
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dragon age is awesome but i still think i enjoyed mass effect slightly more
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#3 UT_Wrestler
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dragon age is awesome but i still think i enjoyed mass effect slightly more-DirtySanchez-
Mass Effect would definitely be my #2 choice. Did you ever get to play KOTOR or Jade Empire?
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#4 archvile_78
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KOTOR most definitely!

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#5 Commando015
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Anyone that played KOTOR will vote for that, it rivals that of the best games and the story is amazing for any game, but especially for a Star Wars game. The twist even rivals that of the twist in the actual movies. It was a great game all around. Much better than Mass Effect, I'll always like Mass Effect, but I find that it played too much like a story book and less like an actual RPG.


Now, Mass Effect 2 may just take the cake, but for now... It's KOTOR.

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#6 UT_Wrestler
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Anyone that played KOTOR will vote for that, it rivals that of the best games and the story is amazing for any game, but especially for a Star Wars game. The twist even rivals that of the twist in the actual movies. It was a great game all around. Much better than Mass Effect, I'll always like Mass Effect, but I find that it played too much like a story book and less like an actual RPG.


Now, Mass Effect 2 may just take the cake, but for now... It's KOTOR.

Commando015

I find it ironic that you say that about just Mass Effect, when really you could levy that same criticism on all of Bioware's console games, I mean if you consider that a bad thing

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#7 istreakforfood
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I've played all those games except for Dragon Age. My favorite from that list which I've played has to be KotOR. Very enticing storyand loved the final boss battle.

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#8 bluem00se
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Mass Effect, but Dragon Age is also great (playing through it right now and it is addicting!) Jade Empire was a great game, but I didn't get into it as much as ME or Dragon Age. I was about done with it after my 1st playthrough. And as pathetic as it sounds, I have yet to play KOTOR. However, I do have a copy of it coming in the mail, so I'll be playing it soon enough.
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#9 lawlessx
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for me it's either mass effect for dragon age.
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#10 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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KOTOR is still the best Bioware console game IMO. Nothing has matched it on any console for me yet. Out of this gen, I'd have to say that I think Dragon Age O is better than Mass Effect.
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#13 zombiejonny
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i liked KOTOR

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#14 NeonNinja
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I haven't played Dragon Age so I can't comment on that one.

But Mass Effect is my favorite game that they have ever put out regardless of it being console or PC.

Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire are both very good too. I've enjoyed every BioWare game I have ever played, they're a top-notch dev team.

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#15 LethalEu4ia
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Mass Effect. Dragon Age is good but it's a PC game at heart.

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#16 AdjacentLives
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Anyone who had a decent/good computer when KOTOR was first released can probably agree the game was amazing. It's aged a bit, but back then it seemed like PC RPG's couldn't get any better.

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#17 LittleToejam
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Is SW: The Old Republic going to be just for PC or xbox also?

Already played KOTOR 1 and 2 but does this poll mean that since KOTOR got better scores than Dragon Age, should i bother even playing Dragon Age?

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#18 NeonNinja
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Is SW: The Old Republic going to be just for PC or xbox also?

Already played KOTOR 1 and 2 but does this poll mean that since KOTOR got better scores than Dragon Age, should i bother even playing Dragon Age?

LittleToejam

Let me get this straight, you're wondering if you should play Dragon Age because it scored a little lower than KotOR? Or that more people enjoyed KoTOR over DA that it somehow isn't good enough?

If you like RPGs I think you should play it. Let's think on our own rather than looking at numbers/poll results. You'll only be happier for it.

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#19 SkyCommand
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And to think, both Mass Effect and Jade Empire are available for download on the xbox marketplace, I'm pretty sure. Both incredible games. However, KOTOR blew my mind because it was my childhood dreams of Star Wars mixed with an insane combat engine with great quests.
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#20 Dordledum
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I own and have played all 4 several times, and am currently on my 4th playthrough of KotOR. I actually like all games, but I still think KotOR is slightly better than Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Jade Empire was good as well, but not as good as the rest.

Mass Effect 2 might be a conteder for the top spot though.

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#21 Palantas
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For me, it's Mass Effect, hands down. It had a tighter narrative than Dragon Age or Knights, and well, I haven't played Jade Empire.

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#22 hammerofcrom
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KOTOR. My love of that game surpasses all others. must have played through it 8 times.

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#23 bekkilyn
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I am playing Jade Empire for the first time right now and am really enjoying it. I've had it in my backlog (for original xbox) for a long time and due to life stuff and getting caught up with a bunch of mmorpgs, just never got around to playing it. The game world is unique, loosely based on old China such as in a Kung Fu movie, and combat is real time which I like. I also appreciate that having followers is much less annoying than other games. No micromanaging required, and they all have different personalities and storylines. You can also choose Open or Closed Fist paths. I can't compare this game with the others on the list because, sadly, the others are also on my backlog, but based on other Bioware games I've played for the PC such as Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and Neverwinter Nights 1, you just really can't go wrong playing any of them even if one is somewhat more well-liked than another. Plus, just because you liked KOTOR best so far doesn't mean you won't enjoy playing one of the others or even enjoy playing it more. Plus, you can download Jade Empire on Live for something like $20 and Mass Effect is about $20 right now either on live or disc. You could play those first and by the time you are done, Dragon Age may have come down a bit in price. I personally love having these great games to anticipate and look forward to playing.
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#24 Lebowski__basic
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KOTOR. The story sucks you in from the very beginning and it's a different experience every time you play. It definitely reminded me of the Original Trilogy in terms of how the story played out. Definitely one of the best games, and probably the best Star Wars game, IMO.
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#25 Rikuide_Furame
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KotOR wins hand down for me. I still have my retail copy.

1) KotOR
2) Dragon Age: Origins
3) Mass Effect
4) Jade Empire

In that order, though I enjoyed them all.

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#26 RAMRODtheMASTER
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KOTOR hands down.
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KOTOR.....i still play it on my 360. Best star wars story since the first three movies if you ask me.
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I think it has the be KOTOR. It's one of the few times I've played a game and actually cared about the story. The battle system isn't the best ever, and the graphics were quite poor for an Xbox game, but the story and force powers more than made up for it. It's just one of the finest examples of an RPG that I think has ever been on consoles. Now I feel like playing it, after talking about it like this. I might have to dig out the old Xbox and load it up.
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#29 Flamecommando
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Mass Effect.

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[QUOTE="-DirtySanchez-"]dragon age is awesome but i still think i enjoyed mass effect slightly moreUT_Wrestler
Mass Effect would definitely be my #2 choice. Did you ever get to play KOTOR or Jade Empire?

yea i played KOTOR and i loved it but it glitched out on me to many times, like this one spot i loaded the game and my whole crew was made up of copies of the wookie party member, i never played jade empire honestly forgot all about that game
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#31 bessy67
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KOTOR. To this day that's my favorite story in a videogame.

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#32 Blackhawk692
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Plus, it has a deep, engaging story that rivals the original film trilogy

UT_Wrestler

...... this is coming from a huge star wars fan. KoTOR has a much better story than the original trilogy.

*spoiler time*

The man plot twist in the movies, was the Vader was Luke's father, while the main plot twist in KoTOR is that you are the villian that set most of this stuff in motion.

voted for KoTOR btw, even though I never extensively played on the console, but I did beat the pc version like 8 times, such an epic game

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#33 CTR360
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jade empire on xbox mass effect&mass effect2 on xbox360
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#34 2pac_makaveli
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KOTOR is the best rpg i have ever played to date mass effect was a letdown
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#35 moose_knuckler
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KOTOR easily. About half (or more) of those ME votes have probably not played it
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#36 H_U_R_D
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KOTOR hands down is one of the best RPG's every made

Bioware's games are pretty much guaranteed AAA

Mass Effect, however is the best Bioware game on the 360

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#37 Maxmus050
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Jade Empire is a forgotten classic!

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#38 R7_3
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1. KOTOR

2. Mass Effect

3. Dragon Age

4. Jade Empire

in that order :P

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#39 SkyCommand
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1. KOTOR

2. Mass Effect

3. Dragon Age

4. Jade Empire

in that order :P

R7_3
I'm going to have to disagree with one thing here: I think Jade Empire blows Dragon Age away. Don't get me wrong, I like Dragon Age, but, I love Jade Empire :)
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[QUOTE="R7_3"]

1. KOTOR

2. Mass Effect

3. Dragon Age

4. Jade Empire

in that order :P

SkyCommand

I'm going to have to disagree with one thing here: I think Jade Empire blows Dragon Age away. Don't get me wrong, I like Dragon Age, but, I love Jade Empire :)

I wouldn't say "blows away", but Jade Empire is also my fav.

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#41 Expo_Smacko
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Star Wars Knight of the Old Republic hands down. Mass Effect comes in very close on second, and Dragon Age with third.
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#42 UT_Wrestler
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Dragon Age isn't really a console game.dlindenb2000
Um, it's on a console? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bioware released a game for consoles before Star Wars KOTOR
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[QUOTE="LittleToejam"]

Is SW: The Old Republic going to be just for PC or xbox also?

Already played KOTOR 1 and 2 but does this poll mean that since KOTOR got better scores than Dragon Age, should i bother even playing Dragon Age?

You should play anything made by Bioware. Everything they make is amazing. I'm just polling about which one people think is the most amazing.
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I'm sorry to tell all of you Star Wars KOTOR fans that Mass Effect is way better than KOTOR. I'm not saying that KOTOR isn't a good game because it was a very good game with all the cool *** lightsabers and force powers you couldn't go wrong, but Mass Effect had characters that actually seemed real and all of the weapons and level ups you had made the game fun as **** and the armors and game add-ons made this easily the best Bioware console game. Bioware and Ubisoft two best game designers.

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I'm sorry to tell all of you Star Wars KOTOR fans that Mass Effect is way better than KOTOR. I'm not saying that KOTOR isn't a good game because it was a very good game with all the cool *** lightsabers and force powers you couldn't go wrong, but Mass Effect had characters that actually seemed real and all of the weapons and level ups you had made the game fun as **** and the armors and game add-ons made this easily the best Bioware console game. Bioware and Ubisoft two best game designers.

dominicenyart

I have two things that totally destroy what you just said.

HK47

DARK-SIDE ENDING

I rest my case.

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#47 craigalan23
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Easily KOTOR I'm a huge Star Wars fan and that was just excellent in every way. I think I beat it around eight times.

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I'm sorry to tell all of you Star Wars KOTOR fans that Mass Effect is way better than KOTOR. I'm not saying that KOTOR isn't a good game because it was a very good game with all the cool *** lightsabers and force powers you couldn't go wrong, but Mass Effect had characters that actually seemed real and all of the weapons and level ups you had made the game fun as **** and the armors and game add-ons made this easily the best Bioware console game. Bioware and Ubisoft two best game designers

dominicenyart

A few things 1. Large text is annoying, makes it look like you're shouting. 2. Stating opinions as facts is equally annoying. 3. The role-playing elements of KOTOR have much more depth than that of Mass Effect, so using the "all of the weapons and level ups you had" as a reason why mass effect is better isfactually inaccurate

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#49 RAMRODtheMASTER
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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]

[QUOTE="dominicenyart"]

I'm sorry to tell all of you Star Wars KOTOR fans that Mass Effect is way better than KOTOR. I'm not saying that KOTOR isn't a good game because it was a very good game with all the cool *** lightsabers and force powers you couldn't go wrong, but Mass Effect had characters that actually seemed real and all of the weapons and level ups you had made the game fun as **** and the armors and game add-ons made this easily the best Bioware console game. Bioware and Ubisoft two best game designers

A few things 1. Large text is annoying, makes it look like you're shouting. 2. Stating opinions as facts is equally annoying. 3. The role-playing elements of KOTOR have much more depth than that of Mass Effect, so using the "all of the weapons and level ups you had" as a reason why mass effect is better isfactually inaccurate

If we combined our arguments against him we cannot fail! :D
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#50 SkyCommand
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[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"][QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]

[QUOTE="dominicenyart"]

I'm sorry to tell all of you Star Wars KOTOR fans that Mass Effect is way better than KOTOR. I'm not saying that KOTOR isn't a good game because it was a very good game with all the cool *** lightsabers and force powers you couldn't go wrong, but Mass Effect had characters that actually seemed real and all of the weapons and level ups you had made the game fun as **** and the armors and game add-ons made this easily the best Bioware console game. Bioware and Ubisoft two best game designers

A few things 1. Large text is annoying, makes it look like you're shouting. 2. Stating opinions as facts is equally annoying. 3. The role-playing elements of KOTOR have much more depth than that of Mass Effect, so using the "all of the weapons and level ups you had" as a reason why mass effect is better isfactually inaccurate

If we combined our arguments against him we cannot fail! :D

4. There is no need for vulgar words when describing how much you like two games. 5. Mass Effect was a fantastic game for the way it was told. However, Star Wars had the benefit of being steeped in a rich world of lore and tradition. Therefore, the quests seemed to have more meaning for any person with even the slightest interest in Star Wars.