ok since i found out something usefull here i would like to share not just with you guys but all the other people who will search this topic on the internet.
ok the green room in chromatic observatory,you dont really need to do that room,but i think i have found out how to do it,without any upgrades.
ok as you enter the room just forget about those guys with the swords and jump the cliffand grab.so now you are swinging back and forth.ok to be able to jump and grab the ledge you have to press jump at the exact time that you are the closest to that ledge,if you do it right you will grab on.and there is one of those green relics on there fo you,remember you have to jump the moment before you start to swing back basically the closest you get to the ledge.
hope this helped you guys,have fun
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