do you play games on the hardest setting, when theres no reward?

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#1 i-rock-socks
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i was just playing battle field 2 on hard when i learned online that u only have to play 1 mission on hard for an achievement.

so im up to chapter 9 and ive been playing on hard so far when i learn this and decide "**** it, ill beat the whole game on hard"

but had i known that going in i prolly would of put it on easy.

what about u, do u play games on hard (or w/e) if theres no reward (not just achievements, but no special prize, mission, gun, w/e)

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#2 Darkslayer16
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Yes because games are short enough already. Playing games on normal and easy is pathetically easy and provides no challenge or fun at all to me.

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#3 i-rock-socks
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Yes because games are short enough already. Playing games on normal and easy is pathetically easy and provides no challenge or fun at all to me.

Darkslayer16

wish i had the time to wrry about games being too short, any games u can think of you found hard or prehaps even too hard?

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#4 TheFLQ
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I usually play normal first playthrough unless I am really good at the specific game's genre, I might start at hard.

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#5 YoungSinatra25
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I play all my shooters on the hardest difficulty. Not for some achievment, but for the challange. Playing Halo:CE on Lengendary changed me...

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#6 Gen007
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The challenge is what makes it fun imo. You can take a really great game and make the AI and whatever else pathetically easy and then the game becomes no fun. Sadly thats a trend these days, making games that play themselves.

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#7 BigRigs93
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I play on hard for Achievements Nuh said bro

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#8 i-rock-socks
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The challenge is what makes it fun imo. You can take a really great game and make the AI and whatever else pathetically easy and then the game becomes no fun. Sadly thats a trend these days, making games that play themselves.

Gen007

the way you word ur post it makes it seem someone in this thread thinks otherwise. just cause i prefer or even demand (usually) a reward for playing on hard doesnt mean i dont enjoy a challenge

and im curious, what games specifically are so easy that they play themselves? (and if ur comparing them to the nes and computer games of yesteryear then, yeah, i guess games are easier)

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#9 gem98088
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depends on the game, some games not worth finishing on hard, a game such as Mass Effect 2 is brilliant to play on insanity, which is the hardest level, as it's really a challange and getting the acheivment as a reward of finishing ME 2 on insanity is worth it, and it does feel rewarding.
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#10 Dave_442
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I have found thatan awfullot of games are a lot more fun on hard.

I have also found that some games are no fun at all on hard......*cough*Ninja Gaiden 2*cough*

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#11 javafriek
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Achievements or rewards are nice but if I become frustrated with the game I feel I'm defeating the purpose of playing the game. As for games being too short, that kinda works out to my advantage with ky tight schedule and limited xbox time. If I complete it on normal and the game is good enough I most likely will try another playthrough on a harder setting.
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#12 Survivalise
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I usually just to play on the hardest difficulty straight away unless there's co-op involved or i have to unlock it, such as Gears of War's Insane. Just finished Meal of Honor's Hard mode, it's pretty short and nothing compared to Call of Duty's Veteran but still pretty enjoyable and the added achievement is pretty nice but doesn't matter as much :)
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#13 Overlord93
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Usually not. I will often on a second playthrough, but only usually in fps or shooters I am familiar with
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My first play through is usually on the medium difficulty, after that, I bump it up to hard.

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#15 Schreek
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[QUOTE="Darkslayer16"]

Yes because games are short enough already. Playing games on normal and easy is pathetically easy and provides no challenge or fun at all to me.

i-rock-socks

wish i had the time to wrry about games being too short, any games u can think of you found hard or prehaps even too hard?

Dead Space on hardest difficulty is kinda hard. Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry 4 on hardest difficulty are pretty insane. Dark Souls (successor to Demon Souls) is going to be pretty tough.

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#16 Xeogua
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Every now and then. I played Darksiders on Apocalyptic on my first playthrough and even then that was actually pretty easy, other than the boss fights.

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If I can do it, yeah!

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#18 Ghost_702
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No. If I don't get, at the very least, an achievement for beating a game on its hardest difficulty setting, then I just play on normal. Reason being is that to begin with, some games on their most difficult setting are too difficult for me to actually enjoy playing. I like to enjoy the gameplay and atmosphere. It's difficult to do that when I am constantly is rage mode.
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#19 doubalfa
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depend on how hard is hard if hard like CoD veteran then no way, I enjoy when hard changes the way you play a game for good, not running and preying you can survive till the next checkpoint
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#20 Darkslayer16
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[QUOTE="Darkslayer16"]

Yes because games are short enough already. Playing games on normal and easy is pathetically easy and provides no challenge or fun at all to me.

i-rock-socks

wish i had the time to wrry about games being too short, any games u can think of you found hard or prehaps even too hard?

I can't think of any games I would classify as hard and defiantly none that I would say are too hard. Paying 70-80$ for games that last 5-10 hours is both dumb and not fun to me. Look at CoD for example.. even on veteran the games are easy and short so you lower it to easy or normal and it's just pathetic. The only way you can die in most games on those settings have to pretty much be intentional and the AI will be brain dead so I get 0 enjoyment. You mention BC2 I didn't even look at the achievement list and put it on hard anyways and to me the game was still too easy and took me maybe a day to beat on hard and maybe 3-5 for 1000G. Achievements are not exactly much of a reward when most games just hand them out and very few are actually a challenge and instead are either easy or easy and just time consuming.

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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]

[QUOTE="Darkslayer16"]

Yes because games are short enough already. Playing games on normal and easy is pathetically easy and provides no challenge or fun at all to me.

Darkslayer16

wish i had the time to wrry about games being too short, any games u can think of you found hard or prehaps even too hard?

I can't think of any games I would classify as hard and defiantly none that I would say are too hard. Paying 70-80$ for games that last 5-10 hours is both dumb and not fun to me. Look at CoD for example.. even on veteran the games are easy and short so you lower it to easy or normal and it's just pathetic. The only way you can die in most games on those settings have to pretty much be intentional and the AI will be brain dead so I get 0 enjoyment. You mention BC2 I didn't even look at the achievement list and put it on hard anyways and to me the game was still too easy and took me maybe a day to beat on hard and maybe 3-5 for 1000G. Achievements are not exactly much of a reward when most games just hand them out and very few are actually a challenge and instead are either easy or easy and just time consuming.

Sometimes beating a game on hard will trigger bonus footage or a secret mission but most of the time beating the game on normal it good enough for me

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#22 i-rock-socks
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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]

[QUOTE="Darkslayer16"]

Yes because games are short enough already. Playing games on normal and easy is pathetically easy and provides no challenge or fun at all to me.

Darkslayer16

wish i had the time to wrry about games being too short, any games u can think of you found hard or prehaps even too hard?

I can't think of any games I would classify as hard and defiantly none that I would say are too hard. Paying 70-80$ for games that last 5-10 hours is both dumb and not fun to me. Look at CoD for example.. even on veteran the games are easy and short so you lower it to easy or normal and it's just pathetic. The only way you can die in most games on those settings have to pretty much be intentional and the AI will be brain dead so I get 0 enjoyment. You mention BC2 I didn't even look at the achievement list and put it on hard anyways and to me the game was still too easy and took me maybe a day to beat on hard and maybe 3-5 for 1000G. Achievements are not exactly much of a reward when most games just hand them out and very few are actually a challenge and instead are either easy or easy and just time consuming.

i dont really like the challenge derived from most games "hard" diff settings, seeing as most games on hard arent hard, just annoying (i.e. getting insta killed by a perfectly aimed rocket), seeing as in most games the enemy always know where you are, and games that dont even have enemies still find a way to be just as annoying (although i cant think of any examples at the moment). if i pull a gun and everyone who cant even see me starts shooting me in, lets say a game like hitman, thats not challenging or fun, its annoying (atleast to me). its that kinda experince i come across when i play even my most fav games on "hard", although i usually still do it, if rewarded.

i play to have fun, and getting those rewards is fun to me (achievements mostly), but even though i find the right kinda challenge fun, most games just up the damage or whatnot, which i find lame. its not because its too hard (the only game i gave up on was doing master ninja in ninja gaiden 2 and even still i prolly would of struggled thru it if my xbox would have stopped freezing) but that its typically not fun, just like i said, annoying.

i agree that sometime games are too easy, and sometimes fun games are fun cause their hard (demon souls comes to mind). but most games just shoe-horn "hard" into a game and its hard for all the wrong reasons, thats why i prefer easy(also cause i like to beat em quick so i can move on to the next game).

also, i generally dont complain if a game is too short or long, i have too many games as it is (and if a game i like ends, its always to short).

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#23 Darkslayer16
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[QUOTE="Darkslayer16"]

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]wish i had the time to wrry about games being too short, any games u can think of you found hard or prehaps even too hard?

i-rock-socks

I can't think of any games I would classify as hard and defiantly none that I would say are too hard. Paying 70-80$ for games that last 5-10 hours is both dumb and not fun to me. Look at CoD for example.. even on veteran the games are easy and short so you lower it to easy or normal and it's just pathetic. The only way you can die in most games on those settings have to pretty much be intentional and the AI will be brain dead so I get 0 enjoyment. You mention BC2 I didn't even look at the achievement list and put it on hard anyways and to me the game was still too easy and took me maybe a day to beat on hard and maybe 3-5 for 1000G. Achievements are not exactly much of a reward when most games just hand them out and very few are actually a challenge and instead are either easy or easy and just time consuming.

i dont really like the challenge derived from most games "hard" diff settings, seeing as most games on hard arent hard, just annoying (i.e. getting insta killed by a perfectly aimed rocket), seeing as in most games the enemy always know where you are, and games that dont even have enemies still find a way to be just as annoying (although i cant think of any examples at the moment). if i pull a gun and everyone who cant even see me starts shooting me in, lets say a game like hitman, thats not challenging or fun, its annoying (atleast to me). its that kinda experince i come across when i play even my most fav games on "hard", although i usually still do it, if rewarded.

i play to have fun, and getting those rewards is fun to me (achievements mostly), but even though i find the right kinda challenge fun, most games just up the damage or whatnot, which i find lame. its not because its too hard (the only game i gave up on was doing master ninja in ninja gaiden 2 and even still i prolly would of struggled thru it if my xbox would have stopped freezing) but that its typically not fun, just like i said, annoying.

i agree that sometime games are too easy, and sometimes fun games are fun cause their hard (demon souls comes to mind). but most games just shoe-horn "hard" into a game and its hard for all the wrong reasons, thats why i prefer easy(also cause i like to beat em quick so i can move on to the next game).

also, i generally dont complain if a game is too short or long, i have too many games as it is (and if a game i like ends, its always to short).

Hitman you shouldn't even need to use a gun? If you do for some reason the AI in that game is brain dead to the point you could just kill every guy in a level but that's not the way the game is meant to be played. Demon Souls isn't exactly hard because it's just pattern memorization. I don't get why you would put a game on easy and beat them asap to rush onto the next one the only way I see that making sense is if you don't like the game. If you don't like the game tho imo they are not worth even finishing. I thought Ninja Gaiden 2 was complete garbage so I just didn't bother finishing it not try to rush through. I have way too many games then I will ever finish and probably 50+ I haven't even opened but I still try to take my time. How can you enjoy a game by rushing through on easy? There is literally no game with the slightest bit of challenge on easy.

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#24 i-rock-socks
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[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]

[QUOTE="Darkslayer16"] I can't think of any games I would classify as hard and defiantly none that I would say are too hard. Paying 70-80$ for games that last 5-10 hours is both dumb and not fun to me. Look at CoD for example.. even on veteran the games are easy and short so you lower it to easy or normal and it's just pathetic. The only way you can die in most games on those settings have to pretty much be intentional and the AI will be brain dead so I get 0 enjoyment. You mention BC2 I didn't even look at the achievement list and put it on hard anyways and to me the game was still too easy and took me maybe a day to beat on hard and maybe 3-5 for 1000G. Achievements are not exactly much of a reward when most games just hand them out and very few are actually a challenge and instead are either easy or easy and just time consuming.

Darkslayer16

i dont really like the challenge derived from most games "hard" diff settings, seeing as most games on hard arent hard, just annoying (i.e. getting insta killed by a perfectly aimed rocket), seeing as in most games the enemy always know where you are, and games that dont even have enemies still find a way to be just as annoying (although i cant think of any examples at the moment). if i pull a gun and everyone who cant even see me starts shooting me in, lets say a game like hitman, thats not challenging or fun, its annoying (atleast to me). its that kinda experince i come across when i play even my most fav games on "hard", although i usually still do it, if rewarded.

i play to have fun, and getting those rewards is fun to me (achievements mostly), but even though i find the right kinda challenge fun, most games just up the damage or whatnot, which i find lame. its not because its too hard (the only game i gave up on was doing master ninja in ninja gaiden 2 and even still i prolly would of struggled thru it if my xbox would have stopped freezing) but that its typically not fun, just like i said, annoying.

i agree that sometime games are too easy, and sometimes fun games are fun cause their hard (demon souls comes to mind). but most games just shoe-horn "hard" into a game and its hard for all the wrong reasons, thats why i prefer easy(also cause i like to beat em quick so i can move on to the next game).

also, i generally dont complain if a game is too short or long, i have too many games as it is (and if a game i like ends, its always to short).

Hitman you shouldn't even need to use a gun? If you do for some reason the AI in that game is brain dead to the point you could just kill every guy in a level but that's not the way the game is meant to be played. Demon Souls isn't exactly hard because it's just pattern memorization. I don't get why you would put a game on easy and beat them asap to rush onto the next one the only way I see that making sense is if you don't like the game. If you don't like the game tho imo they are not worth even finishing. I thought Ninja Gaiden 2 was complete garbage so I just didn't bother finishing it not try to rush through. I have way too many games then I will ever finish and probably 50+ I haven't even opened but I still try to take my time. How can you enjoy a game by rushing through on easy? There is literally no game with the slightest bit of challenge on easy.

well time is precious, and id like to play every game, but i cant. if you can play every game for as long as you like on the hardest difficultly thats fine if you got that kinda time, but i dont. if you have to take it slow to enjoy a game thats fine, but i can experence everything most games have to offer without taking it slow. and not everyone plays ever game for a challenge.

and u definitely missed my point, i know how to play hitman, it was just an example of a method that a game uses to increase the diff that i dont like. and i beat ninja gaiden 2 on mentor, i didnt rush thru it. but if it didnt have an achievement for doing so i would have. u play for a challenge, i play to have fun, and i can have fun playing a game on easy, if u cant understand that, well, then consider it a challenge

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#25 Wakanoid
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No, probably not. Unless it was a big part of the game. Like COD, I'd just play that on recruit quick, if it were not for the achievements. Due to a large part of the game being online.
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#26 Samslayer
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I try to get as much as I can out of games.

So, even if I have gotten all the achievements, I'll usually try to play through the game on the hardest difficulty. However, if that requires a ridiculous amount of time and effort, and I don't receive a reward for it, I'll probably stop. I usually never just jump right into the hardest difficulty. I like to start the game on the default.

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#27 Warablo13
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No, I would not play a game on the hardest setting if there was no achievement.. The only time I would is if I thought it benefited from the game play changes, like making a game play more realistic..
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#28 Black_Knight_00
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I haven't beaten BC2 on hard either, while I've beat BC1 on hard. I play a level every now and then but the game is too easy and there's no achievement so it feels like not even the developers cared if we beat it or not. I think every shooter should have rewards for doing things on hard, instead of so many pointless online achievements no one will get
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#30 EABGamer
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nope sure don't! almost never i always play on normal.

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#31 Darksonic666
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Nah I get frustrated to easily to play on hard difficulty I normally play games on normal and if the game is really hard I some times play on easy.

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#32 GAMESHARQ
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I never play games on the hardest setting. I like to just sit back and enjoy a game without all the stress of challenge.
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#33 doll94
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I tend to play through most games on normal difficulty first then if I like the game enough I might move on to hard and replay it again.
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#34 Mr_arizona
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I play on the next to hardest difficulty first then move up to expert/insane/legendary after I got a feel for everything. I'm not walking through the game for the first time but not getting a game over screen every 5mins.

Most games are horrible with making the game harder cause all they do is up damage and health making it not more of a challenge but giving you less room for error.

From easy to expert the stradegy of most games never changes except you have less room for error on expert.

I hope for a day when games are more of a challenge on different difficulties instead of everyone just becoming a high damage accurate tank on expert.

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#35 cprmauldin
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Depends on the game. I'm not really into achievements, so it is always just for fun.