Game Developers and Publishers need to be held accountable.

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#52 DvnDrgnXD
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That's the great thing about the free market. Video game companies that make garbage games don't last very long. So you bought a bad game. Get over it.

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Your correct, it's a free market. I love the free market. I dont like the fact that a company can build and sell their scam, take the millions they made on the previous scam and make a new scame under a new company name. Rinse & repeat.
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#53 Punch_Sideiron
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I dont like the fact that a company can build and sell their scam, take the millions they made on the previous scam and make a new scame under a new company name. Rinse & repeat. DvnDrgnXD
Has it even occurred to you that it's generally simpler and cheaper for a company to actually try to make a good product? It's incredibly paranoid thinking to assume that every company that makes a bad game is doing so on purpose to scam you.

Even if that was the case, these "scams" don't usually make millions of dollars.

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#54 sixgears2
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

Thats COMPLETELY non sensical. Nobody ever buy's a game thinking ''Im going to hate this game, but Im going to burn 60 $ on this anyway''. People get screwed, period.

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No, it's completely right

There is no excuse at all for someone failing to do research in this day and age

It's like walking onto a car dealership and getting a crappy car that doesn't do well in crash tests. If someone researched it they'd get a better car

Same exact thing with games

Except that automakers are held accountable..., all I am saying is that every other industry is held accountable, it seems the gaming industry is immune to accountability.

I think the main issue with the TC's argument is that he seems to misunderstand the use of accountability legally. Usually, a company is held "accountable" for things that damage a person or their life. For instance, look at the Toyota recalls earlier this year and last year. There was an issue with some of their vehicles that caused immediate danger to the persons using them. The same occurs when toy manufacturers are sued and forced to recall toys painted with lead-based colors or with choking hazards or sharp pieces. Using them could actually harm a child.

You could make the argument that there are false-advertising laws out there, and that a completely broken product should not be sold. This is true, but only if the product was deliberately and knowingly placed on the market despite being non-functional. For instance, if a game company released a game that simply caused a black screen and was unable to load or boot and could not be patched, you can bet they would be forced to recall it. However, there is a HUGE difference between a completely non-functional product and a low-quality one. Just because a game has bugs/glitches/other issues that ruin the experience for you as an individual does not mean that the company should be legally "accountable" for that. It's the same scenario as if you bought a movie ticket and disliked the movie due to filming mistakes, bad acting, or poor special effects and demanded your money back. It just wouldn't happen, and nor should it. As others have pointed out, the ultimate responsibility falls on you to make sure you make good decisions.

Your second issue is your focus on capitalism. You seem to be a big pure capitalism guy, so I would just like to point out that it is hypocritical to criticize a company for producing an extremely low quality product (thus keeping their overhead down) and charging the same to maximize their profits. If they can make a product that costs them $15 a unit and then sell it for $60 to people who are too lazy or naive to not do their research, why shouldn't they? That is what happens in a capitalist economy, like it or lump it. Yes, there are some companies out there that care about looking after their customers, but a large majority are in it for the money. That is true in the entertainment industry, the auto industry, and every other industry you could possibly think of. The products are inferior but not harmful, and you made the mistake of buying them.

Anyway, the bottom line is that you shot yourself in the foot with your mention of capitalism. By your own logic, the best way to hold a company "accountable" should be to speak with your wallet. If you really want the "weak to fall" then you need to deny them the resources they need to survive and instead put them towards the stronger, more responsible companies. But the onus is on you, and you alone, to make sure that happens. Nobody needs to be held accountable for your bad purchasing decisions but yourself.

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#55 albatrossdrums
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[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No, it's completely right

There is no excuse at all for someone failing to do research in this day and age

It's like walking onto a car dealership and getting a crappy car that doesn't do well in crash tests. If someone researched it they'd get a better car

Same exact thing with games

Jaysonguy

People get screwed on Pre-order's though.

That's the risk they take though

Anything "pre" is a gamble

It could be argued that the people who get screwed are just willing victims of hype. Of course any given company is going to make whatever they are selling appear to be a must buy. People need to learn that advertising is never your friend, it is a thug trying to rob and brainwash you. It's up to you to kick the thug out of your head.
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#56 Buttons1990
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[QUOTE="ImproveMind"]

Buyer beware. You bought a bad game because you made the conscious decision to. Nobody forces a person to buy a bad game, and it is the buyer's fault if they do purchase it.

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Yes, and I can say the same thing about credit card but for some reason the government decided their rules were not fair. All I am saying is that creators should be held accountable, EVERYONE ELSE IS!

Those are two completely different things... Creditors were more or less scamming people, it wasn't just "fine print", but legal jargon that wasn't even in their contracts that gave the companies the right to increase interest rates at any time...

If you are unsure about a video game, then don't buy it... Simple as that... And if you are totally sure and buy it, but are disapointed, then tough luck... You bought it...

With your rules, every manufacturer of anything would go bankrupt because anyone and everyone would buy things and say "Well I don't like it so give me my money back!"