Games these days...

Games these days...how most of them today are not as fun as the older generations. I mean it seems games today are based solely around making money and not for the gamer. I mean I feel like in the Genesis/SNES era, back then it was like the developers made games solely for making a fun game. It seems like nobody cares anymore. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. Maybe then I was too young to understand economics? I'm not sure...anybody else feel this way?

Exactly, they also made things better that would last much longer too.
I guess the gaming industy is too much into money now and not the customers. :(

Its quite sad.

Take NBA Jam for example. Remember how it was just a two man team just ridiculous dunks, jumping like 20 feet in the air and doing crazy tricks while doing so? That's probably my fav. basketball game of all time to this day because of that. I wish game developers these days didn't take better graphics so seriously and go with the realism route. If that game was remade with the exact same style it was before with Forza 2 graphics, it would be amazing.

But then again, if developers really did that, they would be like..."We don't really want to be like Nintendo." blah blah blah

Yea I agree, game companies only care about money now.

I think it depends on who you talk about. I think the developers are actually trying to make the game as fun as possible, but the publisher is all about money. And since they are pretty much funding the project they kind of have more say in the project. Release date, amount of people who work on the project, and amount of funds.

I mean look at Blizzard. Yes they are with what Vivendi or whatever, but they have been self publishing games for years. Their quality today is still as good as it was ten years ago. World of Warcraft was truly amazing in my eyes (i am just to cheap for $15 a month). You also look at Betheseda. I played Oblivion for about 200 hours (yes 200 hours......... ruffly). I know not everyone played it like that, but i know many did. The problem now-a-days is that many publishers want to cash in on games. Take Activision for example. Infinity War made Call of Duty and it was really good, but then they decided to get Treyarch invovled (mabye Treyarch voluntered who knows) and they have been making not as good as previous Call of Duty titles yet Activision just keeps letting them pump out their games.

Publishers are greedy in my eyes... you know EA, Ubisoft (even though i do like many of their games... i see them as the much much better EA that can actually make good games that are in house), Activision, and others. They pump out a title year after year which is pretty much the exact same games with slight improvements (Any EA sport franchise, Guitar Hero, and Tom Clancy games like R:6 or GR with their main title and expansion for each game....).

Look at movie games for example. Is it the developers fault the game sucks? Not really... The Publishers who get their hands on the IP give the developer a small amount of funds and short development times so they can cash in on it without spending almost anything.

I really put about 90% of the blame on the publishers now a days. The Developers are trying to make the games as fun as possible, but when you don't get crap from the people funding the project it is hard to do it.

back then it was like the developers made games solely for making a fun game.Mr_Oblivio

Yeah, they totally didn't care about supporting themselves/their family's.

[QUOTE="Mr_Oblivio"]back then it was like the developers made games solely for making a fun game.brujagio

Yeah, they totally didn't care about supporting themselves/their family's.

Your sarcasm sucks.

That's crap. Video game makers were making games for profit back with Genesis too. Why would they word so hard on a product that wasn't going to make money? They might not have made as much money as games do today, but they definitely did it for money. beutlich99

Well yeah, I know that. I'd do it for money too. I'm just saying it's more corrupt. Why can't there be a developer and publisher out working together to do for the gaming industry what Dave Matthews does for the music industry?

I think it depends on who you talk about. I think the developers are actually trying to make the game as fun as possible, but the publisher is all about money. And since they are pretty much funding the project they kind of have more say in the project. Release date, amount of people who work on the project, and amount of funds.

I mean look at Blizzard. Yes they are with what Vivendi or whatever, but they have been self publishing games for years. Their quality today is still as good as it was ten years ago. World of Warcraft was truly amazing in my eyes (i am just to cheap for $15 a month). You also look at Betheseda. I played Oblivion for about 200 hours (yes 200 hours......... ruffly). I know not everyone played it like that, but i know many did. The problem now-a-days is that many publishers want to cash in on games. Take Activision for example. Infinity War made Call of Duty and it was really good, but then they decided to get Treyarch invovled (mabye Treyarch voluntered who knows) and they have been making not as good as previous Call of Duty titles yet Activision just keeps letting them pump out their games.

Publishers are greedy in my eyes... you know EA, Ubisoft (even though i do like many of their games... i see them as the much much better EA that can actually make good games that are in house), Activision, and others. They pump out a title year after year which is pretty much the exact same games with slight improvements (Any EA sport franchise, Guitar Hero, and Tom Clancy games like R:6 or GR with their main title and expansion for each game....).

Look at movie games for example. Is it the developers fault the game sucks? Not really... The Publishers who get their hands on the IP give the developer a small amount of funds and short development times so they can cash in on it without spending almost anything.

I really put about 90% of the blame on the publishers now a days. The Developers are trying to make the games as fun as possible, but when you don't get crap from the people funding the project it is hard to do it.

Agent_Kaliaver

agree

[QUOTE="Mr_Oblivio"]back then it was like the developers made games solely for making a fun game.brujagio

Yeah, they totally didn't care about supporting themselves/their family's.

Your sarcasm is not needed here.

Your sarcasm is not needed here.DarkDemon91

Apparently neither is my right to freedom of speech. Seriously though, am I the only one who would rather play GTA4 than Super Mario Brothers?