Gears of War weapon update...

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#1 branketra
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So, if anyone's been playing Gears of War's online multiplayer (COG vs Locust) during the last few days, you've might have noticed another update to the system besides the additional achievements.

-The Lancer is noticably stronger now.

-The characters don't get cover as bad as previously (they were sticky).

-The melee attack with the pistol can stop an incoming frontal chainsaw attack much smoother than before the update, but not so much as to make it the weapon of choice. The chainsaw will still suck anyone in.

-People die more realistically.....Meaning that if someone of COG gets downed and a Locust warrior is in the "Torque bow explosion-damage"-range and the Locust 'dude gets shot with an arrow, the Locust guy who explodes will kill (and get the kill) the Cog who is downed. It used to be that if the dude gets torqued, he goes boom...and that's it.

Other than that.....the game still plays as good as it usually does.

My question is.....how do you all take this? Are you for it or against it?

Personally, I'm completely for it.

The Lancer power boost changes the online game. I'm a fan of the shotgun and pistol (as well as the other weapons...), and it can still fare well against the Lancer if the shots hit in close-to-mid range, so it's cool. I think it makes the game the way it's meant to be; tactical.

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#2 jacksheets
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This was discussed a ton after the update if you want to go back and read some of the threads, they were a few pages long. Most people are for it, considering it makes the shotgun less of a weapon of choice and forces people to consider taking cover a lot more.
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#3 nickdastick
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I like the update except for the lancer... it's lame how the lancer is now a solid medium-long range gun because it changes the game too much. It's easier to use it than the sniper!!! Other than that though it's fine.
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#4 MickeyTheNinja
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This was discussed a ton after the update if you want to go back and read some of the threads, they were a few pages long. Most people are for it, considering it makes the shotgun less of a weapon of choice and forces people to consider taking cover a lot more.jacksheets

Good, cover was the name of the game since the begining of E305. It wasn't "You can run into enemy territory with a shotgun, spin around while firing and win"

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#5 jacksheets
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[QUOTE="jacksheets"]This was discussed a ton after the update if you want to go back and read some of the threads, they were a few pages long. Most people are for it, considering it makes the shotgun less of a weapon of choice and forces people to consider taking cover a lot more.MickeyTheNinja

Good, cover was the name of the game since the begining of E305. It wasn't "You can run into enemy territory with a shotgun, spin around while firing and win"

Exactly. If soemone takes a half of a clip with a machine gun to the chest, I'd expect them to go down.

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#6 branketra
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[QUOTE="MickeyTheNinja"]

[QUOTE="jacksheets"]This was discussed a ton after the update if you want to go back and read some of the threads, they were a few pages long. Most people are for it, considering it makes the shotgun less of a weapon of choice and forces people to consider taking cover a lot more.jacksheets

Good, cover was the name of the game since the begining of E305. It wasn't "You can run into enemy territory with a shotgun, spin around while firing and win"

Exactly. If soemone takes a half of a clip with a machine gun to the chest, I'd expect them to go down.

Yeah. I didn't check that far back because I assumed if it was big enough news, a sticky would be put up.

Anyways, same reason for me. It'll also force the players who want to stay in-league with the experts to learn how to dodge without cover close-by. Heck, the original online forced me to.

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#7 moocow21
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I love the new lancer, so I think the update was great.
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#8 nickdastick
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[QUOTE="jacksheets"][QUOTE="MickeyTheNinja"]

[QUOTE="jacksheets"]This was discussed a ton after the update if you want to go back and read some of the threads, they were a few pages long. Most people are for it, considering it makes the shotgun less of a weapon of choice and forces people to consider taking cover a lot more.BranKetra

Good, cover was the name of the game since the begining of E305. It wasn't "You can run into enemy territory with a shotgun, spin around while firing and win"

Exactly. If soemone takes a half of a clip with a machine gun to the chest, I'd expect them to go down.

Yeah. I didn't check that far back because I assumed if it was big enough news, a sticky would be put up.

Anyways, same reason for me. It'll also force the players who want to stay in-league with the experts to learn how to dodge without cover close-by. Heck, the original online forced me to.

Hmm... Interesting. I didn't thnk about it that way just because I really didn't have any issues with the gameplay before. It makes sense though because it was annoying how you could unload a FULL clip into someone and they still didn't go down! I also have noticed that cover is used much more as well and the game takes more skill and planning... okay. I like the strong lancer now.

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#9 jacksheets
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Hmm... Interesting. I didn't thnk about it that way just because I really didn't have any issues with the gameplay before. It makes sense though because it was annoying how you could unload a FULL clip into someone and they still didn't go down! I also have noticed that cover is used much more as well and the game takes more skill and planning... okay. I like the strong lancer now.

nickdastick

Yep, just takes a little getting used to. :)

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#10 unknown-phenom
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Im in the mood to play Gears of War now. I think Ill play after The Crow is over. :)
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#11 littleman1992
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I love it how people always complained about a little shotty fest on Gears of War and everybody just used the Shotgun and nothing else, and then when they update somehthing that can actually stop the shotgun dead in it's tracks everybody complaiins about it.

Pathetic.

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#12 unknown-phenom
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I dont see very many people complaining littleman1992
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#13 Blue_Jaguar
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I still suck either way!
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#14 tlcain
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Haven't played Gears MP in a long time...guess I'll have to give it another try.
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#15 taylorb522
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The sniper is noticably weaker, it sometimes takes two active reload shoots to down someone.
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#16 julianwelton
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I think the lancer is too strong now after this update i keep seeing people getting downed by a quarter of a clip of lancer and please dont jump in with well in real life a quarter of a clip would kill anyone because yeah in real life there are no aliens that come from under the ground and pretty much one bullet from anyone of the guns in the game would kill you so obviously games aren't about realism thats why they are called games.

Now i liked how the characters could take a lot of damage from pretty much all the weapons and yeah i know if someone gets in your face with a shotgun they could kill you with one shot, but well what would you expect from a shotgun but now people are being downed every few seconds by a lancer everyone gets downed by it now snipers, pistolers, even when you have a shot gun in somebodys face now they can still pull out a lancer and down you in about 3-4 seconds. The lancer was good enough after the last update it was even bordering on overpowered but now its kind of ridiculous i think its a step back for Gears not ahead.

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#17 s3lFc0nTr0l
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my routers broken so in cant get on live till i get a new one :(....no update for me
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#18 nickdastick
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[QUOTE="nickdastick"]

Hmm... Interesting. I didn't thnk about it that way just because I really didn't have any issues with the gameplay before. It makes sense though because it was annoying how you could unload a FULL clip into someone and they still didn't go down! I also have noticed that cover is used much more as well and the game takes more skill and planning... okay. I like the strong lancer now.

jacksheets

Yep, just takes a little getting used to. :)

Yeah, it's different but it will sure make the host shotgun less of a problem and it will hurt all those guys that just rush in and try to overpower you with numbers.

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#19 battlefront23
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The sniper is noticably weaker, it sometimes takes two active reload shoots to down someone.taylorb522

excellent. now people that have skills with snipers not just the RB button can be shown

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#20 tlcain
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Are the EVER going to come out with some singleplayer content? That's really what I want to see.
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#21 bolt2448
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This was discussed a ton after the update if you want to go back and read some of the threads, they were a few pages long. Most people are for it, considering it makes the shotgun less of a weapon of choice and forces people to consider taking cover a lot more.jacksheets
which is good. thats the way the game was made. I havent played it yet, but from what I hear, it seems Epic has finally perfected their online game.
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#22 yolookuptothem
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I still suck either way!Blue_Jaguar

quit being different

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#23 Rikyfree
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Im in the mood to play Gears of War now. I think Ill play after The Crow is over. :)unknown-phenom

I love that movie. Sometimes I think it could make a good game, if it weren't for the whole god mode with a bird factor...

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#24 Trickshot771
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I'm not going to play Gears anymore because I think it's ruined. (THAT'S MY OPINION). I've been playing a long time and I'm used to just using the shotgun, and now that it's almost worthless now because everyone uses the lancer I'm just not going to play.
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The sniper is noticably weaker, it sometimes takes two active reload shoots to down someone.taylorb522

not true...

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#26 c0mplex
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I'm not going to play Gears anymore because I think it's ruined. (THAT'S MY OPINION). I've been playing a long time and I'm used to just using the shotgun, and now that it's almost worthless now because everyone uses the lancer I'm just not going to play.Trickshot771

you will come back... :P

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#27 Trickshot771
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I don't know why I would...

I already got all the achievements, none of my friends play anymore, and the game is full of little kids and racists. No reason for me to come back.

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#28 M-e-t-h-o-d-206
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i still hate the host advantage crap. that really got to me
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#29 branketra
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I'm not going to play Gears anymore because I think it's ruined. (THAT'S MY OPINION). I've been playing a long time and I'm used to just using the shotgun, and now that it's almost worthless now because everyone uses the lancer I'm just not going to play.Trickshot771

This is wrong. If you know how to move and aim without holding down the left trigger and walking, the shotgun is still a good weapon. It isn't as if the Lancer has been powered more than the other weapons.

It's an equalizer for those who don't want to play a specific-weapon oriented game...like a shotgun.

It used to take almost an entire clip of normal Lancer bullets to the body to down an opponent. I don't think the 'icon weapon of a game should be one of the weakest, minus the chainsaw. In real life, automatic bullets have more penetrating power than pistol or shotgun rounds. I think it has a leg or two to stand on.

[QUOTE="taylorb522"]The sniper is noticably weaker, it sometimes takes two active reload shoots to down someone.thegreat_one3

not true...

and I beg to differ with the "not true." I've noticed that as well.
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#30 Super-Trooper
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I pretty much quit the game because of the shotgun, the game turned into everything it wasnt suppose to be. When i first started playing people would take cover and use pretty much every gun, than it stopped and everyone just spammed the shotgun and the host had a wonderful time owning everyone. I like the lancer change - i might just have to play agian
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#31 gander448
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haven't played gears online in a while because of the whole shotgun thing and the lag, i think i might jump in again (pun not intended)

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#32 neelyboy99
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its okay.