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#1 solid1210
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is it me or is gears of war just graphics and new weapons ???

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#2 whizeguy
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Its inevitable that a game no matter how good it is will have its detractors. I thought gears was amazing.
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#3 solid1210
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its great i want the reasons people think its bad and the reasons people think its the worst or its goods and its bads and your rating
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#4 ag1002
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There's been a million of these threads. I think it was just a shiny new fad. I think it was all about the graphics... if you say "this game is better than gears of war," then people will jump at them and say "no way that game's graphics are not where nearly as good as gow" I don't think people were ever big on the gameplay. At least, that's not what stood out.
I beat the singleplayer, it was fun and all, but it was just a better than average game in my opinion. The multiplayer was shakey and random, I can't stand it. The game was good I'd buy Gears of War 2, but it's nothing amazing. I think there are many games coming out this year and the next that will be better than GoW.
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#5 MTBare
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I think it's great, and if my connection wasn't screwing up right now I'd go play it.
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#6 Millennium_King
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it's hot because the graphics are great and the way the devs implemented the cover system has never been done before. it's not because the multiplayer is very repetitive and boring.
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#8 christhepenguin
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I thought it was fun, because it binded so many different elements from other games.  Just the RE4 over the shoulder shooting was good enough for me!
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#9 Omnipotent
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I thought it was pretty good.  Great visuals combined w/ different gameplay.  I thought the overall presentation was extremely high quality.  The single player campaign was a little too short for my liking, though, and I wish they had more weapons...I basically didn't use anything except the chainsaw gun throughout the whole game, w/ either a sniper rifle or torque bow at my secondary...
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#10 clockworkboy00
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This topic might have been interesting...9 months ago.
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#11 LordChar
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Its a good game, has some minor problems thats all.
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#12 Scalemaster
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I do agree with you that the single player is quite overrated. I do disagree with your opinion regarding the shotgun in multiplayer. While it is one of the most common weapons people use in a battle it is not the only gun people use. Each weapon serves at least one purpose. For instance in a close quarters battle a pistol can be just as effective as a shotgun. The combination of quick shots to the head and then a melee attack can eliminate someone just as fast the average shotgun battle. I would also somewhat agree that the multi-player is lacking. This game is the most inconsistent online game on the Xbox 360. During every game the host always has the best connection and everyone else suffers from some sort of lag. This leads to constant mismatches. When I am the host and facing my friends who live near me(minimizing lag) and I kill three of them with three average reload shots and barely have any red in my circle, there is something wrong there. Also there are so many glitches, cheats that can be used, it is sickening. You are constantly sticking to walls during the roady run. This happens at least a dozen times every match especially in Annex(seems like they didn't iron out that many bugs before release). Another cheat is chainsawing someone with any weapon. This is what you would call cheap because they explode automatically thus allowing the cheater to move on the next battle faster than if they used the chainsaw on the lancer. I absolutely disagree that there is any noob gun. As far as noob guns go, there are none. Though the host has a constant advantage, this is not due to a noob gun. There is no weapon that any player can pick up and instantly become the best. If you have ever used the hammer of dawn you would know that getting a lock can be very difficult and time consuming. Obviously each player is going to be more skilled in one weapon or another but there is absolutely no weapon that would be considered a noob weapon. When there is little lag and the glitches cheats are at a minimum it is an entertaining game, but since this is rare, I rarely play GOW anymore. I only play occasionally with friends. I would sell this game back, but since it pisses me off that I would only get $34 for the game at Gamestop. I basically paid $60 for plastic I will rarely use .
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#13 Scalemaster
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Oops, this was intended as a response to 7CloudStrife7.
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There's been a million of these threads. I think it was just a shiny new fad. I think it was all about the graphics... if you say "this game is better than gears of war," then people will jump at them and say "no way that game's graphics are not where nearly as good as gow" I don't think people were ever big on the gameplay. At least, that's not what stood out.
I beat the singleplayer, it was fun and all, but it was just a better than average game in my opinion. The multiplayer was shakey and random, I can't stand it. The game was good I'd buy Gears of War 2, but it's nothing amazing. I think there are many games coming out this year and the next that will be better than GoW.ag1002
Gears of War was just the first game to come out that looked good. with this year most of the games will definitely be better then gears. GOW just came out in a time where there werent too many games that accelled in the graphics area, thats why the hype was so big.
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#15 solid1210
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i like the game alot i dont feel that it's a failur i agree with many of you sometimes i feel as if there is 7 people you can choose from their should be at leat a 7 v 7 if thats the most the game can handle any how a good game made with easy gameplay and good graphics thats how it falls on my list but it gets very boring at times i dont know if i'll ever get the 10,000 kills lol

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#17 reverend_K
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I found the multiplayer too glitchy and random, it turned me off of an otherwise above average game
you can only get pistol glitched so many times.

Get your own Gamercard Sig.

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#18 c0mplex
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why Gears is GREAT:

- fun single player with a variety of things to do (fight with a team of 4 or with just your partner, separate pathways that are still connected to each other in some way, the headlight mission and mine cart mission to change things up)

- great graphics and sound

-  fun and creative weapons to use (chainsaw on the Lancer, Hammer of Dawn)

- one of the few multiplayer games on Live that gets the concept of "teamwide cooperation and coordination" right

- the perfect blend of strategy (GRAW, R6V) and arcade-style shooting (Halo, UT)

Why Gears is HORRIBLE: 

- host advantage

- online community full of jerks

- other than annex, there are no respawns

- heavy use of the shotgun, unless you are skilled with other weapons (hammerburst, torque bow, longshot) that you have easy access to (not weapons that are in the middle of the map)

- no way to stop team stacking

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I got a 360 just a few days ago and of course Gears of War with it.  Truthfully after experimenting with the single player and online multiplayer I felt that this game did not live up at all as to how much people praise it. 

The single player is short and the story is not that great.  The online multiplayer from what I have seen, is a max of 8 players, meaning only a max of 4 players on each team, which imo is horrible, especially for a game that is supposed to be so great of an online game.  The second problem I found with the online was the lack of weapon variety, you start off with the same guns it seemed like on every map, on both teams, a rifle, a shotgun, a pistol, and grenades, that's what you get at the beginning, EVERY ROUND.  Now I know there are other guns you can pick up, but these guns I found to be extremely noob or unbalanced to the other guns in the game, the one I saw was a sniper like gun with a one shot kill, and the other was some beam of light that just came down out of the sky and killed someone.  Another thing about the weapons is, besides the fact with someone would pick up the two above weapons, no one would use any other gun then the shotgun, that's all, the whole online game became a shotgun war where people just ran back and forth hoping that they did more damage with their shotgun before the other person killed them with their's. 

Another problem I find with the game in single player, and mutliplayer, is the lack of the ability of my character to do normal human things that should be no problem for super buff body buidling men like that, for instance, there is a ledge that has a somewhat high drop off, not too high that would actually harm someone, but decently high, now, my character being the tough man he is can't just drop off this ledge, no, he has to run all the way around the freaking map to get down.  Another problem I found, the lack of the ability to jump, now being able to jump isn't a necessity in a shooter game, but it would definitly add alot more variety and bring more content to the game.  Another not necessarily problem, but something I found to be dumb, having to pay for new maps, now I know they will be free in I believe September it is, but really, paying for maps, that's quite sad. 

Now maybe I just expected to much from this game but with how much people hype it I was expecting something much better.  For instance, take the original Counter-Strike for example, the original mod was released in 1999, making the game about 8 years old now, that game has so much more content and variety and strategy in it, for a cheaper price, and all the DL content for it is FREE.  Counter-Strike boasts over 20 guns, has a knife, and 3 different types of grenades, several compelling types of game situations, such as hostie rescue, VIP rescue, bomb execution, and just plain out killing eachother,  the servers vary in size and can get up to I know atleast 64 man servers, thats up to 32 players playing on each team.  Oh and CS just doesn't stick you with certain guns, you get to pick the ones you want at the beginning of every round, sounds good to me, compared to just being stuck with the same guns every round.  In cs you can jump and boost players adding and making new experiences to the game everytime you play.  There are thousands of maps for CS ALL FREE to DL.  Oh and did I mention counter-strike the orignal is still the most popular online shooter, yea and that's not including players from CS Source or Condition Zero. 

So after coming from playing CS I would have to say Gears of War seems like a piece of crap to me, a $60 game versus a $20 game that also lets you download popular games such as Half-Life, Opposing Force, Team Fortress Classic, and Day of Defeat, among MANY others, all for free after you purchase CS.  So I'm sorry but the reason why I dislike Gears of War is because it can't even beat an 8 year old game on any level other than graphics, and that's it, IMO that's really sad, and for the current most popular "next gen" game, I expected alot more, and alot better.

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HOT: - Graphics - Gameplay - Online co-op - Weapons - Gore NOT: - Host advantage - very few modes - online gameplay becomes repetitive - jerks are in larger numbers
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#23 SymphonicWaves
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The problems are as follows.

-Host Advantage

-Over use of shotgun

-The snipers power shot is cheap

-Getting hit with a melee.  You don't have time to get out of the way of the next hit.

-Lack of actual RANK.  If there was rank, the quitters who leave in the first round cause they suck would stay with their 

brethren. 

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#24 solid1210
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now that i have some answers and opinions i would like to know because me and my brother have an ongoing arguement in which game is better halo 2 or gears of war and he states that halo 2 was knocked out by gears of war i explain to him that gears of war and halo 2 are from 2 different generations and 2 different eras of gaming i feel that the two can not be compared one is a fps and the other is a 3person shoother but since he is ovewhelmed with a gears of war and its great graphics that put the bar for upcoming shooter games it will be an ongoing debate because he fails to see the difference in years and the difference in the amount of memory and processors that where used to create these top notch games
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#26 LOKI-RA
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the game was way too short, and the online was weak. and the waiting for the round to end was stupid. Gears is proof that if it looks good enough, then techincal issues can be overlooked. Yeah it was pretty but the combat felt stale after the second level. There's only a few weapons, none of which are used because the shotgun is grossly overpowered(everyone uses it online) making fights predictable and boring after a little bit. The online co-op thrilled till i realized no one played it. It reminds me alot of Bouncer for the ps2, great graphics, but boring after it's finished. Single player only lasted 5-6 hours making it too short..................
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#27 karriston
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Great game, some minor flaws. Single player was short and sweet, the multi-player is the best on the 360, in my opinion. Of course it has its problems, but nothing that ruins it. Probably my most played game on my 360.
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#28 SkaterM80
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Gears of War is a great game. It has problems, but no game is ever perfect.

You can't compare Halo2 and Gears, they are different games from different generations.

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#29 andrewkozis
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A disadvantage would be the online which isnt terrible but isnt great either. Single player is as good as it gets though :)
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#30 krp008
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i loved the campaign, hated the multiplayer.
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I got a 360 just a few days ago and of course Gears of War with it.  Truthfully after experimenting with the single player and online multiplayer I felt that this game did not live up at all as to how much people praise it. 

The single player is short and the story is not that great.  The online multiplayer from what I have seen, is a max of 8 players, meaning only a max of 4 players on each team, which imo is horrible, especially for a game that is supposed to be so great of an online game.  The second problem I found with the online was the lack of weapon variety, you start off with the same guns it seemed like on every map, on both teams, a rifle, a shotgun, a pistol, and grenades, that's what you get at the beginning, EVERY ROUND.  Now I know there are other guns you can pick up, but these guns I found to be extremely noob or unbalanced to the other guns in the game, the one I saw was a sniper like gun with a one shot kill, and the other was some beam of light that just came down out of the sky and killed someone.  Another thing about the weapons is, besides the fact with someone would pick up the two above weapons, no one would use any other gun then the shotgun, that's all, the whole online game became a shotgun war where people just ran back and forth hoping that they did more damage with their shotgun before the other person killed them with their's. 

Another problem I find with the game in single player, and mutliplayer, is the lack of the ability of my character to do normal human things that should be no problem for super buff body buidling men like that, for instance, there is a ledge that has a somewhat high drop off, not too high that would actually harm someone, but decently high, now, my character being the tough man he is can't just drop off this ledge, no, he has to run all the way around the freaking map to get down.  Another problem I found, the lack of the ability to jump, now being able to jump isn't a necessity in a shooter game, but it would definitly add alot more variety and bring more content to the game.  Another not necessarily problem, but something I found to be dumb, having to pay for new maps, now I know they will be free in I believe September it is, but really, paying for maps, that's quite sad. 

Now maybe I just expected to much from this game but with how much people hype it I was expecting something much better.  For instance, take the original Counter-Strike for example, the original mod was released in 1999, making the game about 8 years old now, that game has so much more content and variety and strategy in it, for a cheaper price, and all the DL content for it is FREE.  Counter-Strike boasts over 20 guns, has a knife, and 3 different types of grenades, several compelling types of game situations, such as hostie rescue, VIP rescue, bomb execution, and just plain out killing eachother,  the servers vary in size and can get up to I know atleast 64 man servers, thats up to 32 players playing on each team.  Oh and CS just doesn't stick you with certain guns, you get to pick the ones you want at the beginning of every round, sounds good to me, compared to just being stuck with the same guns every round.  In cs you can jump and boost players adding and making new experiences to the game everytime you play.  There are thousands of maps for CS ALL FREE to DL.  Oh and did I mention counter-strike the orignal is still the most popular online shooter, yea and that's not including players from CS Source or Condition Zero. 

So after coming from playing CS I would have to say Gears of War seems like a piece of crap to me, a $60 game versus a $20 game that also lets you download popular games such as Half-Life, Opposing Force, Team Fortress Classic, and Day of Defeat, among MANY others, all for free after you purchase CS.  So I'm sorry but the reason why I dislike Gears of War is because it can't even beat an 8 year old game on any level other than graphics, and that's it, IMO that's really sad, and for the current most popular "next gen" game, I expected alot more, and alot better.

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#32 Super_Sais
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Single player is Awesome.  Multiplayer, well, not so awesome.

The good about online:  Phoenominal graphics and sound, smooth framerate considering the amount of detail being rendered.  Cool weapons, Interesting level design, lots of action. 

The bad about online:  Lag. Random shotty damage, sometimes it seems like your shotgun is filled with blanks, other times, you can blow opponents to pieces with one shot without even aiming.  The game is a haven for white supremacists who attack you using racial slurs the entire match the instant they realise they cant kill you but you can kill them without breaking a sweat. Glitchers.  I can deal with the sliding and the chainsaw glitchers, but when people start warping me clear across the map when im about to kill them, thats unacceptable. Hosts who take the game waaaay too seriously and think that hosting the match gives them some instant athority over every teammate, every round.  You gotta do what they say all the time just cause theyre hosting, even if theyre strategies are predictable and getting you beat like you stole something.

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#33 Trickshot771
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I like it because it's mindless fun.

I don't like it because of all the noobs, jerks, lil kids, and cheaters. 

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#35 montzag
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I like it because it's mindless fun.

I don't like it because of all the noobs, jerks, lil kids, and cheaters.

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I'm guessing you don't like Halo on LIVE much either then...
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