GTA V not coming to 360?!

well i think thats fairthe devs will lose a whole load of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$naruto7777

i call BS. by the time they release the next one MS will be advertising a new system. There is way to large of a market that would be dropped if they did not throw next GTA on the 360, I cant find the article but over half of GTAIV sales are on the 360. Even if it doesnt come out for the 360, i wouldn't be to upset given how i felt about GTA IV.

Wow I didn't know I would get so many mixed emotions on here. But lets drop the whole 2 disc thing and everything else, lets talk about RIGHT NOW. Say GTA V was coming out next week, and it had high end graphics and everything else. Could Microsoft support it or do you think that the ps3 will rule it with the whole blu-ray discs? Since we know that the blu-ray can hold much much more than the 360 discs.koolaidWTF

Yes it could, because you see, the new GUI for the xbox came out on Nov. 19, and since then you can install games on the xbox hard drives. Now that games can be installed on the hard drive, any game can be played from the hard drive regardless of size. Sorry, but dropping the multi-disc discussion would be dropping this discussion. You can't have both.

That is how a game that took more space than is available on a DVD will be released now. In fact, M$ probably had this (not meaning GTA 5, but rather any future game in the works that needs more storage space) when they released this feature. Don't be surprised to see games using this in the near future.

[QUOTE="koolaidWTF"]Wow I didn't know I would get so many mixed emotions on here. But lets drop the whole 2 disc thing and everything else, lets talk about RIGHT NOW. Say GTA V was coming out next week, and it had high end graphics and everything else. Could Microsoft support it or do you think that the ps3 will rule it with the whole blu-ray discs? Since we know that the blu-ray can hold much much more than the 360 discs.firstfist

Yes it could, because you see, the new GUI for the xbox came out on Nov. 19, and since then you can install games on the xbox hard drives. Now that games can be installed on the hard drive, any game can be played from the hard drive regardless of size. Sorry, but dropping the multi-disc discussion would be dropping this discussion. You can't have both.

That is how a game that took more space than is available on a DVD will be released now. In fact, M$ probably had this (not meaning GTA 5, but rather any future game in the works that needs more storage space) when they released this feature. Don't be surprised to see games using this in the near future.

Unfortunatly your arguement is seriously flawed:

1) Not everyone owning a 360 has a HDD, do you really think MS would release a game that only 2/3 of their ownership could play.

2) Even ignoring that, installing takes A LOT of space, I only recently got a 60gb console and I would only just have room to install even a 2 disc game (about 17gb). I would image about 2/3 the people who have a 360 with a HDD its only 20gb, and so they wouldnt be able to install it.

Looking at those two points, even if the game was just a 2 disc thing, probably well under 1/3 of 360 owners would get to play it. Obviously the numbers I have used are just estimates, but they seem totally plausible to me. Basically only people who own an Elite model, or the new 60gb models would be able to play. Just imagine the uproar and bad publicity that would cause for MS, most definitly NOT a move they would make.

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[QUOTE="koolaidWTF"]Wow I didn't know I would get so many mixed emotions on here. But lets drop the whole 2 disc thing and everything else, lets talk about RIGHT NOW. Say GTA V was coming out next week, and it had high end graphics and everything else. Could Microsoft support it or do you think that the ps3 will rule it with the whole blu-ray discs? Since we know that the blu-ray can hold much much more than the 360 discs.Spankyqwerty

Yes it could, because you see, the new GUI for the xbox came out on Nov. 19, and since then you can install games on the xbox hard drives. Now that games can be installed on the hard drive, any game can be played from the hard drive regardless of size. Sorry, but dropping the multi-disc discussion would be dropping this discussion. You can't have both.

That is how a game that took more space than is available on a DVD will be released now. In fact, M$ probably had this (not meaning GTA 5, but rather any future game in the works that needs more storage space) when they released this feature. Don't be surprised to see games using this in the near future.

Unfortunatly your arguement is seriously flawed:

1) Not everyone owning a 360 has a HDD, do you really think MS would release a game that only 2/3 of their ownership could play.

2) Even ignoring that, installing takes A LOT of space, I only recently got a 60gb console and I would only just have room to install even a 2 disc game (about 17gb). I would image about 2/3 the people who have a 360 with a HDD its only 20gb, and so they wouldnt be able to install it.

Looking at those two points, even if the game was just a 2 disc thing, probably well under 1/3 of 360 owners would get to play it. Obviously the numbers I have used are just estimates, but they seem totally plausible to me. Basically only people who own an Elite model, or the new 60gb models would be able to play. Just imagine the uproar and bad publicity that would cause for MS, most definitly NOT a move they would make.

It wouldn't be the first time that tactics like that were used. It started with the atari. They sold a paddle that was needed for some games. Then the NES had the light gun and the ROB attatchments that were needed. The Genesis had two different expansions, namely the 32x and the disc drive, that were needed to play some of the gmes released. I'm not saying that any of those games were good, and the systems didn't sell well as a result.

The N64 had a memory upgrade that was optional for some games, and required for others. On the optional games it gave a graphical boost, and for the required games it was, well, required to play the games. This upgrade actually sold fairly well, and the games were good.

Then came the PS1. To play any games you didn't need to buy anything extra, but to save your games you needed to buy a memory card. This ended up being the norm for a while, but before the PS1 it was basicly unheard of. They sold well even though there was a bit of an uproar over that (at least in my circle of friends).

Already this generation there are games that you kind of need something extra to play. Shadow Run, Unreal Tournament, and Battlefield are games that you almost need a gold account to play. That means you need an internet connection, a way to connect your 360 to it, and a gold account to play these games as they were meant to be played. Sure you can play them by yourself, but they are clearly meant to be played online.

@koolaid guy

When the Xbox came out, it included a HDD, so the memory card was no longer needed. This generation is the first where this is the norm, and it is also the first time you can install (with out mods) games on your console. So it is a jump forward, not back as you suggest.

So get ready if you want to play some of the games that more than likely will be coming out in the future, you may need to buy a bigger HDD to play them. If it sells well many, if not almost all, will require an install. It is how it works. Then for the next generation of systems, if this takes off, you may even see larger HDD standard and a fast DVD drive that can install games quickly, making the systems that much cheaper. If it doesn't Blue Ray and even HD dvd may make a return.

bs. fake link lololfreshgman

It isn't a fake link, it is real. The thing is, it isn't saying what the title states. It basicly says that when/if GTA 5 comes out, microsoft will need a new way to store media for games. As the article was written in April, the storage problem has since been solved.

This shouldn't be surprising for anyone. Everyone I knew, knew the 360 wasn't going to age well. It came with a current gen DVD drive, and a crappy proprietary HDD that was slapped on at the last minute (the thing is slower, holds betwean 20 - 120GB, and is more expensive then 500GB drives you can put in a ps3). People are gonna still buy Xbox's. Seriously who would wanna play a Playstation online? I played my PS3 online, and it's worthless, lifless, stupidity that is a total waste of time. Everytime I would play online, and meet someone worth putting on my friends list, when i would go into recent players, no names would ever be their, i would have to write their names down in the game lobby, quit out of the game, go to "add friend" and type their name in. So long as I can play all these great multiplayer games on Xbox live, I don't care what single player games are "too big" for the 360, and yeah I know GTA had multiplayer but we all know thats not what is filling up the disk.

p.s. The PS3 HDD is not proprietary, it supports 3.5" Laptop SATA drives which hold upto 500GB

You people think that the article is saying that GTA V IS coming out soon, no it's saying if GTA V comes out what problems Microsoft has.koolaidWTF

No, actually I don't:

Actually, since April they have changed something. With the new NXE GUI you can install games onto the HD, and that is a fairly "drastic" change if you ask me. Being able to install games to the drive makes the whole 360's storage medium is insignificantly small, a moot point.

Then if you go and actually READ the article, no where does it say that GTA V won't be coming to the 360, it just says that IF GTA V(assuming it is ever made) needs as big a storge boost as did GTA IV over GTA 3: San Andreas, that the Xbox would need to come up with a new way to hold game media.

They have, so why bring this up now? It is like saying Halo 3 can't come out on the xbox right after the 360 was launched. Kinda silly.one of FirstFists first posts in this thread

Notice the part where I said IF GTA V(assuming it is ever made). Get over it, that article from April was made obsolite when the NXE came out on Nov. 19.

So this is sorta like who is gonna have better technology to have the best opportunity from new games in the future and who will get the most out of the technology and put it toward their games? Can Microsoft keep up with the new technology that will come out and that stuff that the PS3 might get?koolaidWTF

Sure they will. Now before anyone gets mad at me, and calls me a fanboy, I had both consoles last Gen., and didn't really have a favorite. I liked both systems equally, and enjoyed titles on both.

The PS2 was inferior compared to the Xbox tech. wise, but that didn't keep titles coming out on the PS2 that were almost identical to the Xbox versions. In fact many times the only difference was a load time. Even being an inferior system, I think the grafics on some of the PS2 exclusives were top notch, mabey even the best of last Gen games.

So can the 360 do the same this time around? I don't see why not.

[QUOTE="koolaidWTF"]So this is sorta like who is gonna have better technology to have the best opportunity from new games in the future and who will get the most out of the technology and put it toward their games? Can Microsoft keep up with the new technology that will come out and that stuff that the PS3 might get?firstfist

Sure they will. Now before anyone gets mad at me, and calls me a fanboy, I had both consoles last Gen., and didn't really have a favorite. I liked both systems equally, and enjoyed titles on both.

The PS2 was inferior compared to the Xbox tech. wise, but that didn't keep titles coming out on the PS2 that were almost identical to the Xbox versions. In fact many times the only difference was a load time. Even being an inferior system, I think the grafics on some of the PS2 exclusives were top notch, mabey even the best of last Gen games.

So can the 360 do the same this time around? I don't see why not.

exactly but from a tech standpoint IMO not much beat splinter cell: CT xbox ver and even halo 2 last gen but still more people liked what was on the ps2 better from what i seen it comes down to the technical aspect and art/visual style.. but anyway.. considering how the xbox 360 ver sold and also what senor_kami said ..i'm pretty sure GTA V is coming to a microsoft console

I cant see why it will have problems.

The 360 can now install bits to the hard drive.

im calling bull**** :/ it sounds like a ps3 fanboy who wants to slam the 360 some more made that storyspartan----117

totally agree with that...

That still doesn't count for if it had multiple discs. Say you download them both you would still have to keep switching them back and forth cause it still has to read the disc. Also I thought installing them to your hard drive just make the game load faster?koolaidWTF

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]not surprising any one can tell you that...........it be 3-4 years before we see a new gta and games aready reaching 7gbs and what max size of a dvd is like around 9gbs or so at dual lay so ya. then if u thinking 3-4 years for new gta byt then it be 2011-2012 and if microsoft sticking with there 7 year plan then thats about time for a new xbox come out so wont matter that much i dont think but the 360 is pushing it to close........... tw will the wii have gta 5? just woundering why a site with the name wii in it doing articles about 360 and ps3 gamesAgent_Kaliaver