HALO 3 -Skills and ranking prob?

I CAN NEVER GET MY RANK UP...not my exp. but the skill level, in team slayer, im stuck at 22, and team doules at 20, im a captain grade to and have tried soooo buch to get it up...if i win mvp 3 games in a row, it doesnt go up, but sometimes it might even go down!! so i was wondering...could i delete all my history of playing halo 3 without deleting my gamertag and my other game saves? i just want to restart on halo 3 and make my rank better...cuz sumtin is deff. wrong with mine..my gamertag is lman013........thanks

nothin is wrong your a 22 thats a fact. the system works well. dont matter about mvp that dont come into play read the above what that guy copied and psated from the bungie site. its all about expectations. if it expects you to win or loose and you do then it adds confidence to the number its given you. if you loose when expected to win then it questions the number with a view to knocking it down if you loose another game ur expected to win. but if you win games ur expected to loose then it removes confidence and is looking at promoting you to the next number if you keep on performing better than ur expectations. the game matches you up with similar skilled people so it can make ranking up harder if you get lower people as ur expected to beat them. but it also takes into account if it has confidence in they ranking.

but the system isnt broke your defineattly a 22 if you played lots off matches and thats the highest it goes.

you would need a new gamertag to get rid of your ranks. but if you could delete it then it wudnt help you get past 22, because you need to improove at halo to get to the higher ranks., as it is your playing against other people arond the 22 mark so your meant to beat them if they on similar or lower scores and it wont help that much to ur ranking unless you always win.

theys no system where u win x amount of games in a row and it goes up. you just probally noticed it was going up when you were on the poorer ranks. playing people on poorer skill levels than you. as the system wont of had much confidence in ur rating as you will of been performing much higher than expectations for that skill rank so you will of ranked up much faster. but now i think your playing at your level and winning games you should be winning and that wont boost ur skill rank unless u win near enough every match.

i think you hit about where ur rank is, its not like other games where the rank number is just pure exp, its a trueskill rank so it can go up and down at any time. i think you just are a begginign on the 20s player. have a look on the leaderboards and see where you are in the complete lists . then look on the skill chart showing how many people are at each rank. the 20s are for the experanced average players and where the majority is. if your no where near the top or bottom of the leaderboards then your probally at the right rank. the fact you have 2 ranks similar numbers just prooves it,. play lone wolves then ur team mates wont affect your ranking up and see what you get at on ur own. espeially if u got a empty or low rank then u can see for ur self if its ur team mates performances holding you back or if you are a streaight out 22

Agreed , Lone wolves is the way to go.

I was stuck at 15 or so in MP but got up to 30 pretty easily playing solo.

Me and a few other guys I play with have a huge problem. We are all pretty experienced Halo 3 players with three of us being rank 47 on other accounts. For fun we bought 4 new accounts which we ONLY played when all four of us could play together. Therefore, our experience is all the same, this was just for fun as we all have several other accounts. Anyway, the only game type we have played is team slayer besides about 5 double experience games. Up to this last weekend we had played right around 300 games and had lost 5 and lagged out of one. Strangely enough our rank was only 21 in team slayer even though we had won around 295 games of team slayer. This last weekend we all got together and starting Sun night untill early Wednesday morning pretty much just played Halo 3, team slayer. We won 171 games in a row and did not rank up to a 22 until the 171st. Not even realizing we ranked up (we quit paying attention) after we lost the next game (the 172nd) we deranked back down to a 21. During the next 50 or so games we won all but two. The other two games we lost we ranked down each time. So to sum up what happend, we won about 220 games during the three days and ranked up once, we lost three games (not consecutively though) and ranked down each game we lost! We are now 19 in team slayer. Someone told me we are not ranking up because we beat the teams we play againt too badly, which doen't make sense, I mean, you bearly win and rank up, but if you completely rape you don't?! The average number of points that the teams get against us is around only 15-20 (yes, one of us is nerdy enough to figure that out). If someone could explain what is going on I would love to find out. As much fun as it was to have Bungie dump on us this week, I would love to rank up on those accounts.

To see that what I say is true or whatever our gamertags are:

BR WHITE SPASH (that is mine)

BR draws wood

BRs are LAME

BRpartyinmypants

It works perfectly. No problems at all.

You are just a level 22 player. That is your skill level. It has determined this by how you have been playing. Wins or loses.

Basically, you are a level 22 player. That is your skill level, so you will be stuck there until you start improving and winning a lot more than you lose. Also getting streaks don't mean much, if you have just previously lost several games in a row.

If you are consitently winning every single game you play, you are bound to increase in level.

To david munn, I dont know, that is strange, you must either be lieing or something is wrong. You should try playing without alternate game tags. Have a level 19, and a level 40 playing together so you are playing higher level players.

I did that, won pretty much every game, and got up to 43 in around 75 games.

Please read everything I wrote above, we have never lost more then one game in a row, have lost only 8 out of 495, and look at our stats on bungie to see I am not lying. There is no way in hell someone can win 487 out of 495 games with a 3.36 K/D ratio and be a rank 22. After looking at all the facts well, tell me there is not a problem with the ranking system. There is, under certain circumstances it does not work well because we are NOT level 22 as I am a 47 on other accounts. And just the fact that you said you have to play with other ranks means there is a problem, that is not how it should have to be. Thank you for helping me prove my point.DaveManH

It depends on who you've beaten in all those games. If you happen to have been matched with teams that have a lower rank than you, those wins will count for less than if you had beaten people who have a higher rank than you. Similarly, on those rare occassions that you lost, it counts as a bigger loss if you lose to a team who are ranked lower than you. The fact that you won about 97% of your games and that you are still only rank 22 tells me that you have been playing in mismatched games against significantly worse teams.

I can't see a problem with the ranking system in Halo 3. I think that there is a general consensus that it is somehow "broken" because people assume (I'm not saying this is you) that if they play enough games they will rank up. It's just not the case with Halo 3. To level up, you have to beat better teams than you and avoid losing to teams that are worse than you. It's that simple.

EDIT: I looked at a fairly random sampling of some of your games, and it seems like when you won a lot of the time it was against teams with one or two guys ranked between 5 and 15, which will screw you up. Conversely, the few games you lost were against teams that had one or more players with really low ranks, which again will screw you. I think the problem is that all four of you guys play together and only together with those GTs, so you all have the same rank. Therefore it's hard for H3's matchmaking to rank you perfectly with other teams - I bet you get matched a lot with teams who have one weak friend who they drag along. So there is a flaw with the matchmaking system, in that it can't cope with teams in your situation. Bungie probably knows this, but ignores it because I'll bet you're probably a pretty small minority. It's an interesting finding though.

im no expert with the ranking system and i m having a similar problem to you with my friend but we have figured it out and think that because we all have the exact same true skill we are only getting paired with a small range of players hence making it harder to get paired with players that are better ranks then us which means there is less chance that we will get ranked up if we are constantley winning against teams of the same or a lower rank The times that you get ranked up are usually when u beat teams that are higher skill then you.