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#1 Liponade
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We all know Halo.

And with the release of Halo Wars and soon to be Halo 3 ODST.

My question is, has bungie gone to far with halo and are simply milking us for all our cash?

Or are they necessary games in the sequel?

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#2 chaoscougar1
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it all depends on how good they are, no one complains about a good game
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#3 Kaeladar
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imo they've been too far

i stopped playing halo 3 when they put mythic maps on most playlists, and didn't like halo wars.

and the price of ODST is clearly too much for me even though i would finally get the mythic map pack

i will probably not buy any halo franchise game from now and save for other games

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#4 Liponade
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Yeah i don't like the fact that mythic map packs are in most playlists, they are forcing the DLC on us :S

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#5 elpooz
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No... They have made nothing but good, enjoyable games. How have they gone too far...? Good games are good games, it doesn't matter if the Halo is in front of them or not.

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#6 Liponade
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elpooz i agree that they are good games, but i cant seem to think that they are being dragged out a bit

i mean im buying halo wars this week and pre ordering ODST.

i just hope bungie doesn't go too far and ruin it

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#7 a55a55inx
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why point the finger at Bungie? They didn't even develop Halo Wars... MS is most likely the one producing every Halo game.

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#8 TJORLY
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ODST is a full game now, so the price is fair.

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#9 rybe1025
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3 games from Bungie and all 3 are AAA scored. I love me some Halo. It is not like it has been shovelware. I really do not understand all this talk about how Halo is milked. I mean it really just does not make any sense. There has been far more MGS, Final Fantasy, Mario, and many many more titles. It just kinda blows my mind that people can honestly think of all the series out there that have far more titles then Halo they think Halo is a title milked.
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#10 Liponade
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Yeah there are a lot more bigger series of games out there.

I just hope Halo ODST is all its cracked up to be cos im pre-ordering it soon

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#11 aero250
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Halo has not went too far.
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#12 aero250
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why point the finger at Bungie? They didn't even develop Halo Wars... MS is most likely the one producing every Halo game.

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#13 gow117
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Halo wars is not Bungie product, get yourself informed first. And if the game is good, then why not? Take a look at FF, Mgs, mario, etc.

This Halo milked talk is just pointless. This is a business and if you really dont care bout Halo, then move on.

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#14 SEANSEXYUNDIES
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[QUOTE="a55a55inx"]

why point the finger at Bungie? They didn't even develop Halo Wars... MS is most likely the one producing every Halo game.

aero250

True.

very true, gow117 also has a point. I don't like how bungie is constently being refered to as a dev that milks the halo series. But think about it there isn't a week that goes buy that someone posts a form about halo 4. imo the reason bungie is still making these games is because the community wants them. Just because you don't want it or like the series from your perspective you think it was all bungies or microsofts idea when in reality i think the reason for more games is as i said before people wanting more halo games.

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#15 DaGhOsT187
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Its a economic hard ship right now and what ever These companys need to do to stay afloat and to be around in the fture, it better then bankrupt, I actually Have all the map packs and i always buy um thinking it will get me into halo MP but it never does,I did enjoy the campain mode, The hopping/lasers and screaming LIL kids in the mics are to much......

I read somewhere that halo is The start treck for this generation LOL after trying everyshooter out There the CODZ and Gears Allways tickle my pickle and every thing elese seems to fall by the way side for multiplayer Shooters, GTa was fun before Turbos

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#16 CNUrGames
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Tons of people are still buying these games and they are still doing well. Halo Wars was a very competent RTS game on consoles and was easy to use despite the normal RTS nuiances that prevent them from being playable on consoles. Mythic maps on every playlist? Of course they want you to get their DLC. What company releases a product and doesn't want people to buy it? Look at CoD:WaW, from my knowledge (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) but the new maps are played in every playlist that I've played. But Halo is going too far because they do it too?
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#17 SEANSEXYUNDIES
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Tons of people are still buying these games and they are still doing well. Halo Wars was a very competent RTS game on consoles and was easy to use despite the normal RTS nuiances that prevent them from being playable on consoles. Mythic maps on every playlist? Of course they want you to get their DLC. What company releases a product and doesn't want people to buy it? Look at CoD:WaW, from my knowledge (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) but the new maps are played in every playlist that I've played. But Halo is going too far because they do it too? CNUrGames

i love halo read my above post but the diffrence is that when cod 4 or 5 puts it in every playlist you can still play, the game just knows you don't have the maps and disables them for you, Halo doesn't

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#18 SoAmazingBaby
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I think they might have gone a bit too far.
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#19 cainetao11
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elpooz i agree that they are good games, but i cant seem to think that they are being dragged out a bit

i mean im buying halo wars this week and pre ordering ODST.

i just hope bungie doesn't go too far and ruin it

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Interested on your thoughts on Halo Wars after you play it. I don't like RTS much but HW was a lot of fun. I'm not worried about Bungie screwing it up, it's if it goes to other devs down the road that worries me. I love the Halo universe, so I'm all for more of it, by Bungie.
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#20 TrooperManaic
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I still enjoy halo and really is the map pack THAT much money to be complained about. I hope they continue to make more halo games and I woulkd like to see mastercheif as a useable character in later games.

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#21 vashkey
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If Halo has gone too far than I can't imagine how poorly you think of seires such as the Legend of Zelda, Super Mario, Guitar Hero, Madden, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts and Metal Gear that have gone much further with more spin offs and games released since the Halo series itself debuted.
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#22 vashkey
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I just hope Halo ODST is all its cracked up to be cos im pre-ordering it soon

Liponade

What is ODST cracked up to be, exactly?

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#23 Liponade
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What is ODST cracked up to be, exactly?

iv seen the developers talk about how good and immersive the campaign will be. i just hope its something i can enjoy haven't enjoyed a singleplayer game in a while.

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#24 NemeSyS-1
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I wish that Bungie or whoever makes new Halo games would get back to what made Halo CE one of the greatest console shooters of all time. For me, these are the things that have ruined Halo as a series...

1. The Brutes! I consider the Brutes to be the "Ewoks" of the Halo series. Like Halo, Star Wars was going along just fine with A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back and then Gearge Lucas decided he needed to make a movie that 4 year olds would like. The Brutes are useless Imo. It should have just stayed humans Vs. The Covenant.

2. Dual Weilding in both campaign and especially in multiplayer. This is why Imo, Halo CE's multiplayer although only available through system link/LAN is vastlt superior to Halo 2 or Halo 3.

3. Useable Energy Sword in Multiplayer. One word...CHEAP!!!

4. Map design in Halo 3 is trash in comparison to Halo CE and Halo 2

5. Bungie remakes a bunch of maps, but never ever did we see a redo for Sidewinder, Boarding Action or Rat Race. 3 of the best MP maps ever!!!

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#25 BLAS1AN
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it kills me how nintendo can make a mario related game every other month that sells but Halo gets bashed for haveing just 5 Halo related games in a span of about 8 years. Its a multimillion dollar generating machine..makes no sense for them to stop just because a minority want the series to end.

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#26 BLAS1AN
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I wish that Bungie or whoever makes new Halo games would get back to what made Halo CE one of the greatest console shooters of all time. For me, these are the things that have ruined Halo as a series...

1. The Brutes! I consider the Brutes to be the "Ewoks" of the Halo series. Like Halo, Star Wars was going along just fine with A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back and then Gearge Lucas decided he needed to make a movie that 4 year olds would like. The Brutes are useless Imo. It should have just stayed humans Vs. The Covenant.

2. Dual Weilding in both campaign and especially in multiplayer. This is why Imo, Halo CE's multiplayer although only available through system link/LAN is vastlt superior to Halo 2 or Halo 3.

3. Useable Energy Sword in Multiplayer. One word...CHEAP!!!

4. Map design in Halo 3 is trash in comparison to Halo CE and Halo 2

5. Bungie remakes a bunch of maps, but never ever did we see a redo for Sidewinder, Boarding Action or Rat Race. 3 of the best MP maps ever!!!

NemeSyS-1

sidewinder remake = avalanche

Bungie listened to the community and remade the maps the fans asked for.

Bungie gets critisized for way to many things yet Halo 2 was and Halo 3 is the #1 most played games on LIVE

If you dont like the sword or dual weilding then make your own custom game and stop complaining

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#27 GamerJM
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No. Just look at Mario. Halo is far from being milked.
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#28 valttu
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Not IMO. I love Halo. :P

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#29 Blackhawk692
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Trust me it could be worse (I am looking at you Guitar Hero/ Madden)

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#30 p00phead
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No but thats my opinion since I like the Halo series

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#31 VCWilson121
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I think they might have gone a bit too far.SoAmazingBaby

Lol Coming from a Zelda fan which has how many games again?

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#32 sirkibble2
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We all know Halo.

And with the release of Halo Wars and soon to be Halo 3 ODST.

My question is, has bungie gone to far with halo and are simply milking us for all our cash?

Or are they necessary games in the sequel?

Liponade
Has Final Fantasy gone too far? Have rhythm games gone too far? Has Mario gone too far? Has Zelda gone too far? Have you gone too far?
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#33 klusps
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Halo is far from being milked and Bungie already announced that they have other games in development which are not Halo related.

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#34 Floppy_Jim
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After ODST that'll be 5 Halo games in 8 years. Compare it to Call of Duty and it's not really that much.
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#35 VCWilson121
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I wish that Bungie or whoever makes new Halo games would get back to what made Halo CE one of the greatest console shooters of all time. For me, these are the things that have ruined Halo as a series...

1. The Brutes! I consider the Brutes to be the "Ewoks" of the Halo series. Like Halo, Star Wars was going along just fine with A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back and then Gearge Lucas decided he needed to make a movie that 4 year olds would like. The Brutes are useless Imo. It should have just stayed humans Vs. The Covenant.

2. Dual Weilding in both campaign and especially in multiplayer. This is why Imo, Halo CE's multiplayer although only available through system link/LAN is vastlt superior to Halo 2 or Halo 3.

3. Useable Energy Sword in Multiplayer. One word...CHEAP!!!

4. Map design in Halo 3 is trash in comparison to Halo CE and Halo 2

5. Bungie remakes a bunch of maps, but never ever did we see a redo for Sidewinder, Boarding Action or Rat Race. 3 of the best MP maps ever!!!

NemeSyS-1

I think the Brutes add a lot to the story. SPOILERS

Brutes are part of the Covenant. Also, I think the Brutes cause one of the best parts of the story: the betrayal of the Elites and their alliance with the humans.

There is nothing wrong with duel wielding and energy swords!

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#36 kingmanbrosky
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its gone too far with releasing these crappy games wiht the halo name, but as far as innovation, its the same damn game from halo 1, i swear the graphics look like they havent changed at all

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#37 atm0073
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Why are there so many threads pertaining to this hypothetical subject? No, Halo hasn't gone too far at all. Even saying that the franchise is on that path would be a somewhat illogical hypothesis to make. If I know one thing about Bungie, it's that they know what they are doing. Plus, this same subject could be applied to Harmonix, but I don't see anyone saying that the Rock Band series is being milked (and it certainly isn't). Take a look at all the franchises that have had many more sequels than Halo currently does... then reconsider your philosophy. Not just you, TC, but everyone else who thinks Halo is being milked.
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#38 DJ_Magneto
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Just about every week someone brings up this exact topic and every time I post this. Are They Going Too Far With Halo?? To that I say... Original Series --------------------- Final Fantasy I Final Fantasy IIj Final Fantasy IIIj Final Fantasy IV Final Fantasy V Final Fantasy VI Final Fantasy VII Final Fantasy VIII Final Fantasy IX Final Fantasy X Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XII Final Fantasy XIII Final Fantasy XIV Other Major Releases ------------------------------ Final Fantasy X-2 Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Strategy FF Games --------------------------- Final Fantasy Tactics Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions Saga Series ------------------ Final Fantasy: Legend I Final Fantasy: Legend II Final Fantasy: Legend III Misc. Releases ---------------------- Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest Seiken Densetsu Series ---------------------------------- Final Fantasy Adventure Re-released ------------------ Final Fantasy: Anthology Final Fantasy: Chronicles Final Fantasy: Origins Final Fantasy: Dawn of Souls Final Fantasy III DS Final Fantasy IV Advance Final Fantasy XI Packages ------------------------------------ Final Fantasy XI: Rise of the Zilart Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia Final Fantasy XI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan Compilations ------------------- Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings Final Fantasy Versus XIII Final Fantasy Agito XIII Movies/Film ---------------- Final Fantasy: Advent Children Final Fantasy: Spirits Within Final Fantasy: Unlimited Final Fantasy: SGI Demo Final Fantasy: OVA
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#39 gow117
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its gone too far with releasing these crappy games wiht the halo name, but as far as innovation, its the same damn game from halo 1, i swear the graphics look like they havent changed at all

kingmanbrosky
Wtf...
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#40 DJ_Magneto
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Oh, and to answer your question, no I don't think the Halo series has gone too far. In the world of video games (which is built on sequels by the way) how can you go too far with 4 released games and two on the way? Basically the only reason why people bring up this topic is because they aren't fans of Halo and they don't understand why it is one of the highest selling series of games and always at the top of the Live charts.
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#41 Palantas
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What a fresh, original topic. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of games series' which have more titles in them than Halo does right now. Anyone who thinks Halo is milked has absolutely no sense of gaming whatsoever.

My question is, has bungie gone to far with halo and are simply milking us for all our cash?

Liponade

It is impossible to milk someone for cash with luxury products. I hate to point out something so obvious, but the only person who makes you buy a Halo game...is you.

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#42 Furanko_Kun
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What a fresh, original topic. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of games series' which have more titles in them than Halo does right now. Anyone who thinks Halo is milked has absolutely no sense of gaming whatsoever.

[QUOTE="Liponade"]

My question is, has bungie gone to far with halo and are simply milking us for all our cash?

Palantas

It is impossible to milk someone for cash with luxury products. I hate to point out something so obvious, but the only person who makes you buy a Halo game...is you.

That is true xD Look at other game franchises and tell me which one's don't have spinoffs and games that aren't canonized to the story.
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#43 megamaster32
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odst is a full game dont know about halo reach but i dont think the halo series gone to far

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#44 craigalan23
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Not really I mean no Halo game has gotten lower than an 8.0 average.. That is considered great so no it hasn't gone too far. Not to mention if you dislike the game don't buy it no one will force you.

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#45 kingmanbrosky
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Not really I mean no Halo game has gotten lower than an 8.0 average.. That is considered great so no it hasn't gone too far. Not to mention if you dislike the game don't buy it no one will force you.

craigalan23

halo wars got a 6.5

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#46 craigalan23
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[QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Not really I mean no Halo game has gotten lower than an 8.0 average.. That is considered great so no it hasn't gone too far. Not to mention if you dislike the game don't buy it no one will force you.

kingmanbrosky

halo wars got a 6.5

Actually it got an average of 82.. You do know what average means right?

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#47 Palantas
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[QUOTE="craigalan23"]

Not really I mean no Halo game has gotten lower than an 8.0 average.. That is considered great so no it hasn't gone too far. Not to mention if you dislike the game don't buy it no one will force you.

kingmanbrosky

halo wars got a 6.5

That's pretty funny that you actually went and highlighted "8.0 average" up there.

  • Halo Wars @ Metacritic: 82
  • Halo Wars @ Gamerankings: 81.65

What did you think he meant when he said "average"?

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#50 Palantas
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[QUOTE="I"]

[QUOTE="kingmanbrosky"]

halo wars got a 6.5

kingmanbrosky

That's pretty funny that you actually went and highlighted "8.0 average" up there.

  • Halo Wars @ Metacritic: 82
  • Halo Wars @ Gamerankings: 81.65

What did you think he meant when he said "average"?

it got a 6.5 on this site u wierdo, wats so funny about it chuckles?

Are you aware that to have an average, you need more than one number? Craig said that no Halo has an average lower than 8.0, so it's painfully obivous that he's talking about the game's score across more than just GameSpot.

But by all means, don't just admit you ****ed up; just call me names and keep trying to argue a non-existent point after correcting someone for a non-existent error.