HDMI vs VGA.

My first question is will the Elite upscale dvd's to 720p through HDMI like it should through the VGA?

Second, I have the poloroid 37" we all see at Walmart. Yes that one. well I have the 360 connected through VGA. It's set to a resolution of 1360 X 768 . There are no jaggies, and the the Poloroid  does not suffer from the washed out problem. In fact the colors through VGA are more vibrant than even through component. The Poloroid is a great tv for the 360. But will the HDMI be able to beat the VGA in visual quality? I mean the Poloroid gives a clear and crisp picture that destroys component. the VGA on my  tv is top notch. Can the HDMI beat it?

By a mile.NoConflict

Much better, and if you ever see a 50"+ TV in 1080p w/ HDMI, you should notice a gigantic difference.NoConflict

[QUOTE="NoConflict"]Much better, and if you ever see a 50"+ TV in 1080p w/ HDMI, you should notice a gigantic difference.ROCK303

While HDMI is a better interface, being digital rather than analog, the difference is not huge. And in your case, things might actually be worse.

HDMI is designed to handle standard resolutions: 480i, 480P, 720P, 1080i and 1080P. On the other hand, analog signals travelling over VGA can vary in both resolution and refresh rate. If your display has a natural non-standard resolution as you have mentioned, you are taking advantage of the 360's internal scaler to construct an image, which is better than an display's scaler. Currently "standard" resolutions as mentioned earlier get scaled by your display to fit the native resolution. By using VGA you are taking advantage of your display's natural pixel count.

HDMI is digital, meaning there is no digital-to-analog-to-digital conversion process. With your current setup, however, you are going analog-to-digital meaning only one conversion pass and your display is receiving its native resolution which it wouldn't via HDMI thus negating and pure-digital HDMI advantage. Ultimately HDMI's advantages are really only for displays that operate at native HDTV resolutions and don't require display-side scaling. So yes, a 1080P display would get a better signal from HDMI than Component/VGA, but ultimately it is not a huge difference.

[QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="NoConflict"]Much better, and if you ever see a 50"+ TV in 1080p w/ HDMI, you should notice a gigantic difference.trickmyster13

[QUOTE="trickmyster13"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="NoConflict"]Much better, and if you ever see a 50"+ TV in 1080p w/ HDMI, you should notice a gigantic difference.ROCK303

[QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="trickmyster13"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="NoConflict"]Much better, and if you ever see a 50"+ TV in 1080p w/ HDMI, you should notice a gigantic difference.trickmyster13

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[QUOTE="trickmyster13"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="trickmyster13"][QUOTE="ROCK303"][QUOTE="NoConflict"]Much better, and if you ever see a 50"+ TV in 1080p w/ HDMI, you should notice a gigantic difference.Army_Veteran

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While HDMI is a better interface, being digital rather than analog, the difference is not huge. And in your case, things might actually be worse.

HDMI is designed to handle standard resolutions: 480i, 480P, 720P, 1080i and 1080P. On the other hand, analog signals travelling over VGA can vary in both resolution and refresh rate. If your display has a natural non-standard resolution as you have mentioned, you are taking advantage of the 360's internal scaler to construct an image, which is better than an display's scaler. Currently "standard" resolutions as mentioned earlier get scaled by your display to fit the native resolution. By using VGA you are taking advantage of your display's natural pixel count.

HDMI is digital, meaning there is no digital-to-analog-to-digital conversion process. With your current setup, however, you are going analog-to-digital meaning only one conversion pass and your display is receiving its native resolution which it wouldn't via HDMI thus negating and pure-digital HDMI advantage. Ultimately HDMI's advantages are really only for displays that operate at native HDTV resolutions and don't require display-side scaling. So yes, a 1080P display would get a better signal from HDMI than Component/VGA, but ultimately it is not a huge difference.

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omg i did not understand one word of that post

HDMI will force 1080p thats why hdmi can be bad compared 2 vgaDanielr2

DVI is a better signal than VGA and, except for additions to the HDMI 1.3 standard, is equivilent in visual quality to HDMI. Remember there are still thousands of DVI-equipped HDTVs that were manufactured during Hollywood's fight with display producers over copy-protection isues they felt weren't solved well enough with DVI.

I was trying to say the same thing you did in my post, I'm sorry if it wasn't clear. The bottom line: digital cables (DVI/HDMI) will always be superior when dealing with digital sources and digital displays. When you have a digital source (computer, DVD, HD-DVD/Blu-ray, game console, digital TV, etc.) and a digital display (plasma, LCD, DLP, LCoS, etc.) and use a digital cable there is never any degredation to the signal from doing an analog-to-digital conversion. When you hook your computer (digital) to your LCD monitor (digital) with a VGA cable (analog) the signal is converted to analog (lossy) and then back to digital (lossy again). This loss, while not insignificant, is just not that great when analyzed. Therefore you still see dual-equipped devices (LCDs with VGA and DVI, HDTVs with HDMI and VGA) to maximize options. There continue to be consumer groundswells against HDMI in particular as it attempts through hardware to limit the users ability to use their purchases as they see fit (i.e. backups).

HDMI isn't all about copy protection. The new 1.3 standard adds numerous features that go beyond current analog and digital connections:

http://www.hdmi.org/about/faq.asp#hdmi_1.3

HDMI theorhetically eases consumer and electronics manufacturer issues. With HDMI a single cable carries beyond HD video and full 7.1 sound (which until now required eight RCA analog cables for use with DVD-A and SACD). As HDMI becomes standard in all digital decoders you'll find newer, more powerful receivers for less cost and much lighter weight and power requirements.

Now that we've completely derailed the topic creato's thread, I'll go back to the intent o my first post: with your setup you will most likely continue to get the best image out of the 360 through VGA and native resolution output rather than HDMI and your displays scaler.