How much are you willing to pay for Games on Demand?

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The people who are against digital distribution are the same people who would never give up their cassette tapes and CD's and said that mp3's wouldn't sell

How'd that work out?

billyd5301

No, another fail. Buying Mp3s didn't even take off until the Ipod/Mp3 Players/ Droid/ etc. became "nicer", about 5 years ago. Before that Mp3s were mainly only used as a format to pirate music. Anyone remember Napster, Limewire, Bearshare? The only reason people purchase MP3s now is because you can get players with 40gb worth of music and take it absolutely anywhere with you. MP3 players are now the standard for playing music in your car, let alone work, vacation, anywhere else. Off the record, I would bet anything that the majority of music on MP3 Players of any kind are left over from the easy access pirating days, or current methods, and not actually purchased MP3s, but that is just my guess. In a sense buying/pirating habits forced the record companies to sell MP3s over CDs, not the other way around. On top of all that MP3s are actually a lower price than CDs were because of common sense. When I purchased CDs they were $18-$20 for around 15 tracks. Almost every downloadable CD is now $10.

I can get an MP3 for my Droid X, play it through bluetooth in my car, then take the Droid X into the house and play it through the dock. The point is that while Mp3s are very convenient while Games on Demand is not convenient. These games are not released on release dates, meaning that for something like Saints Row 2, if I wanted it I already purchased it. They are bulky. The biggest hard drive that you can even get now is a 250gb, and that is only if you have a new Xbox or a limited edition one. And the downloadable version offers nothing in the way of versatility. It's not like I can tote around just the hard drive and plug it into someone's tv and play a game, nor are they cheaper than the hard copy. It's essentially the exact same thing as having the real game.

On a side, not I can back up my MP3 collection all day long and have them forever. You have still not answered my question to what will happen if MS decides to discontinue games on demand, or MS decides to stop making consoles in the future? My games would be stuck one one hard drive waiting to fry with no legit method to back it up? Awesome.

The MP3 equivalent of Games on Demand would be if only about 100 CDs total were offered on MP3 format and they consisted of titles like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, Britney Spears Hit Me Baby One More Time, and Fallout Boys From Under a Cork Tree, and they were $14.99 each.

The point was that they eventually took off and are the standard today. Whether games on demand will ever take off like that will yet to be seen. With companies like netfilx and gamefly people dont even have to leave home to rent anymore. Who is to say they wont start suddenly making the switch to digital downloads for games? You never lose the copy you can never sell the copy no one can steal it if you sell your xbox and get another you dont lose your game you can re download it. there are a lot of pros for the games on demand and not a lot of cons other then you can get it cheaper at a store and we dont know if the next gen will be able to play these digital copies.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The people who are against digital distribution are the same people who would never give up their cassette tapes and CD's and said that mp3's wouldn't sell

How'd that work out?

No, another fail. Buying Mp3s didn't even take off until the Ipod/Mp3 Players/ Droid/ etc. became "nicer", about 5 years ago. Before that Mp3s were mainly only used as a format to pirate music. Anyone remember Napster, Limewire, Bearshare? The only reason people purchase MP3s now is because you can get players with 40gb worth of music and take it absolutely anywhere with you. MP3 players are now the standard for playing music in your car, let alone work, vacation, anywhere else. Off the record, I would bet anything that the majority of music on MP3 Players of any kind are left over from the easy access pirating days, or current methods, and not actually purchased MP3s, but that is just my guess. In a sense buying/pirating habits forced the record companies to sell MP3s over CDs, not the other way around. On top of all that MP3s are actually a lower price than CDs were because of common sense. When I purchased CDs they were $18-$20 for around 15 tracks. Almost every downloadable CD is now $10.

I can get an MP3 for my Droid X, play it through bluetooth in my car, then take the Droid X into the house and play it through the dock. The point is that while Mp3s are very convenient while Games on Demand is not convenient. These games are not released on release dates, meaning that for something like Saints Row 2, if I wanted it I already purchased it. They are bulky. The biggest hard drive that you can even get now is a 250gb, and that is only if you have a new Xbox or a limited edition one. And the downloadable version offers nothing in the way of versatility. It's not like I can tote around just the hard drive and plug it into someone's tv and play a game, nor are they cheaper than the hard copy. It's essentially the exact same thing as having the real game.

On a side, not I can back up my MP3 collection all day long and have them forever. You have still not answered my question to what will happen if MS decides to discontinue games on demand, or MS decides to stop making consoles in the future? My games would be stuck one one hard drive waiting to fry with no legit method to back it up? Awesome.

The MP3 equivalent of Games on Demand would be if only about 100 CDs total were offered on MP3 format and they consisted of titles like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, Britney Spears Hit Me Baby One More Time, and Fallout Boys From Under a Cork Tree, and they were $14.99 each.

[QUOTE="billyd5301"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The people who are against digital distribution are the same people who would never give up their cassette tapes and CD's and said that mp3's wouldn't sell

How'd that work out?

ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ

No, another fail. Buying Mp3s didn't even take off until the Ipod/Mp3 Players/ Droid/ etc. became "nicer", about 5 years ago. Before that Mp3s were mainly only used as a format to pirate music. Anyone remember Napster, Limewire, Bearshare? The only reason people purchase MP3s now is because you can get players with 40gb worth of music and take it absolutely anywhere with you. MP3 players are now the standard for playing music in your car, let alone work, vacation, anywhere else. Off the record, I would bet anything that the majority of music on MP3 Players of any kind are left over from the easy access pirating days, or current methods, and not actually purchased MP3s, but that is just my guess. In a sense buying/pirating habits forced the record companies to sell MP3s over CDs, not the other way around. On top of all that MP3s are actually a lower price than CDs were because of common sense. When I purchased CDs they were $18-$20 for around 15 tracks. Almost every downloadable CD is now $10.

I can get an MP3 for my Droid X, play it through bluetooth in my car, then take the Droid X into the house and play it through the dock. The point is that while Mp3s are very convenient while Games on Demand is not convenient. These games are not released on release dates, meaning that for something like Saints Row 2, if I wanted it I already purchased it. They are bulky. The biggest hard drive that you can even get now is a 250gb, and that is only if you have a new Xbox or a limited edition one. And the downloadable version offers nothing in the way of versatility. It's not like I can tote around just the hard drive and plug it into someone's tv and play a game, nor are they cheaper than the hard copy. It's essentially the exact same thing as having the real game.

On a side, not I can back up my MP3 collection all day long and have them forever. You have still not answered my question to what will happen if MS decides to discontinue games on demand, or MS decides to stop making consoles in the future? My games would be stuck one one hard drive waiting to fry with no legit method to back it up? Awesome.

The MP3 equivalent of Games on Demand would be if only about 100 CDs total were offered on MP3 format and they consisted of titles like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, Britney Spears Hit Me Baby One More Time, and Fallout Boys From Under a Cork Tree, and they were $14.99 each.

The point was that they eventually took off and are the standard today. Whether games on demand will ever take off like that will yet to be seen. With companies like netfilx and gamefly people dont even have to leave home to rent anymore. Who is to say they wont start suddenly making the switch to digital downloads for games? You never lose the copy you can never sell the copy no one can steal it if you sell your xbox and get another you dont lose your game you can re download it. there are a lot of pros for the games on demand and not a lot of cons other then you can get it cheaper at a store and we dont know if the next gen will be able to play these digital copies.

Not a lot of cons? Everything you named plus having to purchase larger hard drives and not having a hard manual.

"and we dont know if the next gen will be able to play these digital copies."

Weren't you the guy in the other thread saying you will be playing the Mass Effect series in 20 years? If so that seems like a pretty large con. Because let's be really honest, do you think MS will be making consoles in 20 years? Given history Nintendo is the only company who has been around making systems for 20 years. And even if Xbox does make it that long, they scrubbed half of the original Xbox library with backwards compatability. So, for someone who can count the number if games he has traded in/sold on his fingers spending money on something that disappears someday doesn't seem like a very good option when the hard copyis 2 miles away for the same price/cheaper.

[QUOTE="billyd5301"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The people who are against digital distribution are the same people who would never give up their cassette tapes and CD's and said that mp3's wouldn't sell

How'd that work out?

ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ

No, another fail. Buying Mp3s didn't even take off until the Ipod/Mp3 Players/ Droid/ etc. became "nicer", about 5 years ago. Before that Mp3s were mainly only used as a format to pirate music. Anyone remember Napster, Limewire, Bearshare? The only reason people purchase MP3s now is because you can get players with 40gb worth of music and take it absolutely anywhere with you. MP3 players are now the standard for playing music in your car, let alone work, vacation, anywhere else. Off the record, I would bet anything that the majority of music on MP3 Players of any kind are left over from the easy access pirating days, or current methods, and not actually purchased MP3s, but that is just my guess. In a sense buying/pirating habits forced the record companies to sell MP3s over CDs, not the other way around. On top of all that MP3s are actually a lower price than CDs were because of common sense. When I purchased CDs they were $18-$20 for around 15 tracks. Almost every downloadable CD is now $10.

I can get an MP3 for my Droid X, play it through bluetooth in my car, then take the Droid X into the house and play it through the dock. The point is that while Mp3s are very convenient while Games on Demand is not convenient. These games are not released on release dates, meaning that for something like Saints Row 2, if I wanted it I already purchased it. They are bulky. The biggest hard drive that you can even get now is a 250gb, and that is only if you have a new Xbox or a limited edition one. And the downloadable version offers nothing in the way of versatility. It's not like I can tote around just the hard drive and plug it into someone's tv and play a game, nor are they cheaper than the hard copy. It's essentially the exact same thing as having the real game.

On a side, not I can back up my MP3 collection all day long and have them forever. You have still not answered my question to what will happen if MS decides to discontinue games on demand, or MS decides to stop making consoles in the future? My games would be stuck one one hard drive waiting to fry with no legit method to back it up? Awesome.

The MP3 equivalent of Games on Demand would be if only about 100 CDs total were offered on MP3 format and they consisted of titles like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, Britney Spears Hit Me Baby One More Time, and Fallout Boys From Under a Cork Tree, and they were $14.99 each.

The point was that they eventually took off and are the standard today. Whether games on demand will ever take off like that will yet to be seen. With companies like netfilx and gamefly people dont even have to leave home to rent anymore. Who is to say they wont start suddenly making the switch to digital downloads for games? You never lose the copy you can never sell the copy no one can steal it if you sell your xbox and get another you dont lose your game you can re download it. there are a lot of pros for the games on demand and not a lot of cons other then you can get it cheaper at a store and we dont know if the next gen will be able to play these digital copies.

The downloads on the marketplace aren't going to "take off" because Microsoft owns them and is going to be very very strict about who can access those downloads to avoid piracy. If Microsoft had strict ownership of MP3's so that they could only be accessed through ONE device that they developed, it wouldn't have taken off either.

Netflix is a terrible analogy because you pay a small fee every month for unlimited content that you never get to keep (unless you record it), which is the exact opposite of marketplace games (you pay a large fee to play one game that you technically don't keep because it's restricted to one system).

You have a distorted view of pros and cons, considering the only real pros I've heard for downloads are that you don't have to drive to the store, "I'm too lazy to hit the disc tray button", and "someone can break into my house and steal my games." Downloads may be protection from scratched discs, but I have CDs, DVDs, and games 15+ years old that work fine. Even if I have a destroyed disc, I can find a replacement physical copy for very cheap online.

I have a very, very hard time believing Microsoft is going to continue online support for games that will have long been obsolete by then (it would basically be a money pit for them to host old games on an online server), especially since they canceled xbox live support for the original xbox only 4 years after the system was discontinued.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No, another fail. Buying Mp3s didn't even take off until the Ipod/Mp3 Players/ Droid/ etc. became "nicer", about 5 years ago. Before that Mp3s were mainly only used as a format to pirate music. Anyone remember Napster, Limewire, Bearshare? The only reason people purchase MP3s now is because you can get players with 40gb worth of music and take it absolutely anywhere with you. MP3 players are now the standard for playing music in your car, let alone work, vacation, anywhere else. Off the record, I would bet anything that the majority of music on MP3 Players of any kind are left over from the easy access pirating days, or current methods, and not actually purchased MP3s, but that is just my guess. In a sense buying/pirating habits forced the record companies to sell MP3s over CDs, not the other way around. On top of all that MP3s are actually a lower price than CDs were because of common sense. When I purchased CDs they were $18-$20 for around 15 tracks. Almost every downloadable CD is now $10.

I can get an MP3 for my Droid X, play it through bluetooth in my car, then take the Droid X into the house and play it through the dock. The point is that while Mp3s are very convenient while Games on Demand is not convenient. These games are not released on release dates, meaning that for something like Saints Row 2, if I wanted it I already purchased it. They are bulky. The biggest hard drive that you can even get now is a 250gb, and that is only if you have a new Xbox or a limited edition one. And the downloadable version offers nothing in the way of versatility. It's not like I can tote around just the hard drive and plug it into someone's tv and play a game, nor are they cheaper than the hard copy. It's essentially the exact same thing as having the real game.

On a side, not I can back up my MP3 collection all day long and have them forever. You have still not answered my question to what will happen if MS decides to discontinue games on demand, or MS decides to stop making consoles in the future? My games would be stuck one one hard drive waiting to fry with no legit method to back it up? Awesome.

The MP3 equivalent of Games on Demand would be if only about 100 CDs total were offered on MP3 format and they consisted of titles like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, Britney Spears Hit Me Baby One More Time, and Fallout Boys From Under a Cork Tree, and they were $14.99 each.

billyd5301

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The people who are against digital distribution are the same people who would never give up their cassette tapes and CD's and said that mp3's wouldn't sell

How'd that work out?

billyd5301

No, another fail. Buying Mp3s didn't even take off until the Ipod/Mp3 Players/ Droid/ etc. became "nicer", about 5 years ago. Before that Mp3s were mainly only used as a format to pirate music. Anyone remember Napster, Limewire, Bearshare? The only reason people purchase MP3s now is because you can get players with 40gb worth of music and take it absolutely anywhere with you. MP3 players are now the standard for playing music in your car, let alone work, vacation, anywhere else. Off the record, I would bet anything that the majority of music on MP3 Players of any kind are left over from the easy access pirating days, or current methods, and not actually purchased MP3s, but that is just my guess. In a sense buying/pirating habits forced the record companies to sell MP3s over CDs, not the other way around. On top of all that MP3s are actually a lower price than CDs were because of common sense. When I purchased CDs they were $18-$20 for around 15 tracks. Almost every downloadable CD is now $10.

I can get an MP3 for my Droid X, play it through bluetooth in my car, then take the Droid X into the house and play it through the dock. The point is that while Mp3s are very convenient while Games on Demand is not convenient. These games are not released on release dates, meaning that for something like Saints Row 2, if I wanted it I already purchased it. They are bulky. The biggest hard drive that you can even get now is a 250gb, and that is only if you have a new Xbox or a limited edition one. And the downloadable version offers nothing in the way of versatility. It's not like I can tote around just the hard drive and plug it into someone's tv and play a game, nor are they cheaper than the hard copy. It's essentially the exact same thing as having the real game.

On a side, not I can back up my MP3 collection all day long and have them forever. You have still not answered my question to what will happen if MS decides to discontinue games on demand, or MS decides to stop making consoles in the future? My games would be stuck one one hard drive waiting to fry with no legit method to back it up? Awesome.

The MP3 equivalent of Games on Demand would be if only about 100 CDs total were offered on MP3 format and they consisted of titles like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, Britney Spears Hit Me Baby One More Time, and Fallout Boys From Under a Cork Tree, and they were $14.99 each.

[QUOTE="ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ"]

[QUOTE="billyd5301"]

No, another fail. Buying Mp3s didn't even take off until the Ipod/Mp3 Players/ Droid/ etc. became "nicer", about 5 years ago. Before that Mp3s were mainly only used as a format to pirate music. Anyone remember Napster, Limewire, Bearshare? The only reason people purchase MP3s now is because you can get players with 40gb worth of music and take it absolutely anywhere with you. MP3 players are now the standard for playing music in your car, let alone work, vacation, anywhere else. Off the record, I would bet anything that the majority of music on MP3 Players of any kind are left over from the easy access pirating days, or current methods, and not actually purchased MP3s, but that is just my guess. In a sense buying/pirating habits forced the record companies to sell MP3s over CDs, not the other way around. On top of all that MP3s are actually a lower price than CDs were because of common sense. When I purchased CDs they were $18-$20 for around 15 tracks. Almost every downloadable CD is now $10.

I can get an MP3 for my Droid X, play it through bluetooth in my car, then take the Droid X into the house and play it through the dock. The point is that while Mp3s are very convenient while Games on Demand is not convenient. These games are not released on release dates, meaning that for something like Saints Row 2, if I wanted it I already purchased it. They are bulky. The biggest hard drive that you can even get now is a 250gb, and that is only if you have a new Xbox or a limited edition one. And the downloadable version offers nothing in the way of versatility. It's not like I can tote around just the hard drive and plug it into someone's tv and play a game, nor are they cheaper than the hard copy. It's essentially the exact same thing as having the real game.

On a side, not I can back up my MP3 collection all day long and have them forever. You have still not answered my question to what will happen if MS decides to discontinue games on demand, or MS decides to stop making consoles in the future? My games would be stuck one one hard drive waiting to fry with no legit method to back it up? Awesome.

The MP3 equivalent of Games on Demand would be if only about 100 CDs total were offered on MP3 format and they consisted of titles like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, Britney Spears Hit Me Baby One More Time, and Fallout Boys From Under a Cork Tree, and they were $14.99 each.

billyd5301

The point was that they eventually took off and are the standard today. Whether games on demand will ever take off like that will yet to be seen. With companies like netfilx and gamefly people dont even have to leave home to rent anymore. Who is to say they wont start suddenly making the switch to digital downloads for games? You never lose the copy you can never sell the copy no one can steal it if you sell your xbox and get another you dont lose your game you can re download it. there are a lot of pros for the games on demand and not a lot of cons other then you can get it cheaper at a store and we dont know if the next gen will be able to play these digital copies.

Not a lot of cons? Everything you named plus having to purchase larger hard drives and not having a hard manual.

"and we dont know if the next gen will be able to play these digital copies."

Weren't you the guy in the other thread saying you will be playing the Mass Effect series in 20 years? If so that seems like a pretty large con. Because let's be really honest, do you think MS will be making consoles in 20 years? Given history Nintendo is the only company who has been around making systems for 20 years. And even if Xbox does make it that long, they scrubbed half of the original Xbox library with backwards compatability. So, for someone who can count the number if games he has traded in/sold on his fingers spending money on something that disappears someday doesn't seem like a very good option when the hard copyis 2 miles away for the same price/cheaper.

Yeah, in 20 years i would still play the mass effect series. But will i still have the console to play it on, probably not. The world could end tomorrow for all i know :D. The hard drive argument is very good though the best one to be honest i would easily fill up an xbox 360 hard drive a couple of times over just with games not including downloadable content. Maybe it will just be a pay to play option where you spend 60 dollars and can just link up to some service and play it whenever you want? Not that MS would ever do that but i could see that happening in the next 10 years or so at least.

[QUOTE="ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ"]

[QUOTE="billyd5301"]

No, another fail. Buying Mp3s didn't even take off until the Ipod/Mp3 Players/ Droid/ etc. became "nicer", about 5 years ago. Before that Mp3s were mainly only used as a format to pirate music. Anyone remember Napster, Limewire, Bearshare? The only reason people purchase MP3s now is because you can get players with 40gb worth of music and take it absolutely anywhere with you. MP3 players are now the standard for playing music in your car, let alone work, vacation, anywhere else. Off the record, I would bet anything that the majority of music on MP3 Players of any kind are left over from the easy access pirating days, or current methods, and not actually purchased MP3s, but that is just my guess. In a sense buying/pirating habits forced the record companies to sell MP3s over CDs, not the other way around. On top of all that MP3s are actually a lower price than CDs were because of common sense. When I purchased CDs they were $18-$20 for around 15 tracks. Almost every downloadable CD is now $10.

I can get an MP3 for my Droid X, play it through bluetooth in my car, then take the Droid X into the house and play it through the dock. The point is that while Mp3s are very convenient while Games on Demand is not convenient. These games are not released on release dates, meaning that for something like Saints Row 2, if I wanted it I already purchased it. They are bulky. The biggest hard drive that you can even get now is a 250gb, and that is only if you have a new Xbox or a limited edition one. And the downloadable version offers nothing in the way of versatility. It's not like I can tote around just the hard drive and plug it into someone's tv and play a game, nor are they cheaper than the hard copy. It's essentially the exact same thing as having the real game.

On a side, not I can back up my MP3 collection all day long and have them forever. You have still not answered my question to what will happen if MS decides to discontinue games on demand, or MS decides to stop making consoles in the future? My games would be stuck one one hard drive waiting to fry with no legit method to back it up? Awesome.

The MP3 equivalent of Games on Demand would be if only about 100 CDs total were offered on MP3 format and they consisted of titles like Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, Britney Spears Hit Me Baby One More Time, and Fallout Boys From Under a Cork Tree, and they were $14.99 each.

IzzieWaru

The point was that they eventually took off and are the standard today. Whether games on demand will ever take off like that will yet to be seen. With companies like netfilx and gamefly people dont even have to leave home to rent anymore. Who is to say they wont start suddenly making the switch to digital downloads for games? You never lose the copy you can never sell the copy no one can steal it if you sell your xbox and get another you dont lose your game you can re download it. there are a lot of pros for the games on demand and not a lot of cons other then you can get it cheaper at a store and we dont know if the next gen will be able to play these digital copies.

The downloads on the marketplace aren't going to "take off" because Microsoft owns them and is going to be very very strict about who can access those downloads to avoid piracy. If Microsoft had strict ownership of MP3's so that they could only be accessed through ONE device that they developed, it wouldn't have taken off either.

Netflix is a terrible analogy because you pay a small fee every month for unlimited content that you never get to keep (unless you record it), which is the exact opposite of marketplace games (you pay a large fee to play one game that you technically don't keep because it's restricted to one system).

You have a distorted view of pros and cons, considering the only real pros I've heard for downloads are that you don't have to drive to the store, "I'm too lazy to hit the disc tray button", and "someone can break into my house and steal my games." Downloads may be protection from scratched discs, but I have CDs, DVDs, and games 15+ years old that work fine. Even if I have a destroyed disc, I can find a replacement physical copy for very cheap online.

I have a very, very hard time believing Microsoft is going to continue online support for games that will have long been obsolete by then (it would basically be a money pit for them to host old games on an online server), especially since they canceled xbox live support for the original xbox only 4 years after the system was discontinued.

So you are saying that games on demand is a money pit? People still buy final fantasy 7 and super mario bros 3 off of the wii marketplace and playstation network. There is a big fan base for these games, a lot of people consider them to be the best games ever made. Sure maybe you live in a big city where you can drive a couple of miles and get to a gamestop but believe it or not some people don't have the luxury of this and find it quite reasonable to purchase it right on to their hard drive. I am sure that MS makes a butt load of money off of games on demand and would be really dumb to not offer these games on the next console.

[QUOTE="IzzieWaru"]

[QUOTE="ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ"]

[QUOTE="billyd5301"]

ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ

So you are saying that games on demand is a money pit? People still buy final fantasy 7 and super mario bros 3 off of the wii marketplace and playstation network. There is a big fan base for these games, a lot of people consider them to be the best games ever made. Sure maybe you live in a big city where you can drive a couple of miles and get to a gamestop but believe it or not some people don't have the luxury of this and find it quite reasonable to purchase it right on to their hard drive. I am sure that MS makes a butt load of money off of games on demand and would be really dumb to not offer these games on the next console.

[QUOTE="ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ"]

[QUOTE="IzzieWaru"]

[QUOTE="ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ"]

[QUOTE="billyd5301"]

Sonny360Elite

So you are saying that games on demand is a money pit? People still buy final fantasy 7 and super mario bros 3 off of the wii marketplace and playstation network. There is a big fan base for these games, a lot of people consider them to be the best games ever made. Sure maybe you live in a big city where you can drive a couple of miles and get to a gamestop but believe it or not some people don't have the luxury of this and find it quite reasonable to purchase it right on to their hard drive. I am sure that MS makes a butt load of money off of games on demand and would be really dumb to not offer these games on the next console.

The other guy makes a couple valid arguements. You on the other hand apparently haven't read any of this thread and decided to make up your own story about what is being talked about. Let me cap it for you and put it very clear. WHAT GOOD IS A GAME LINKED TO YOUR ACCOUNT IF THERE IS NO XBOX LIVE TO DOWNLOAD IT ON? WHAT GOOD IS A GAME LINKED TO YOUR ACCOUNT IF YOU CAN NO LONGER DOWNLOAD THE GAME DUE TO HARDWARE THAT DOES NOT SUPPORT IT?

Here is a very common example. I own one of the best games of the last generation, James Bond in Everything or Nothing. I can not play it on 360 because MS claims that it is incompatable with the hardware. However I have the hard copy and an original Xbox so should I want to play it I can. Should MS stop making consoles in the future, or the downloadable games not work with the new hardware my $20 will exist in the MS bank account while my game will not exist period.

Normal people do not make habits of having their games scratched, lost, or damaged. Frugal people do not throw money into the vacuum that is the Xbox Live Marketplace when hard copies are A. The same price or lower. and B. Readily available much sooner than the digital counterpart. When I saw games on demand for the first time my exact thought was "This would be cool if you were in a hotel at the beach on a rainy day IF you brought your xbox in the first place, or for people who own very few games and feel like trying something new at 3am". In which cases it is somewhat convenient. It's like buying groceries at 7-11. No one with common sense wants to but in a pinch you at least have the option.

As for this... " Maybe it will just be a pay to play option where you spend 60 dollars and can just link up to some service and play it whenever you want?"

I don't know if I totally follow you but it sounds like you are describing something similar to the Sega Channel. I certainly wouldn't be willing to pay $60 a month for it, but maybe for $10 a month if they wanted to throw some old games on there like CoD2 for a week or so I would maybe be willing to try it out. I already own a good percentage of the 360 library so for ME I am not sure it would be all that awesome, but it could possibly be a good idea if it was done right.

And to continue this book that I am writing in this thread... As for the hard drives. Maybe people would be more willing to buy a few games on demand in the future if the price of theMS hard driveswasn't absolutely the worst rip off in gaming today (well now that the $100 wifi adapter has been put to sleep) I am not saying I would buy a digital version even if I could hook up a cheap external drive and back the games up, or I could get a 1tb backup MS drive for $100 which is close to what real hard drives run these days if not less, but I may be at least somewhat more tempted to. Trust me, had my original360 not died for the third straight time and MS refused to fix it because "it didn't break within 30 days of their last repair" I would not have have bought an Elite and I would still be rocking a 20gb drive.

The people who are against digital distribution are the same people who would never give up their cassette tapes and CD's and said that mp3's wouldn't sell

How'd that work out?

Jaysonguy

After trying this out I would say no matter what I wouldn't do it and I'd go with hard copy of anything and everything.