How much is the difference between HDTV and SDTV -using SDTV for my xbox 360

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#1 Toffe106
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#2 rimnet00
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Huge, its the difference between a person who is far sided using glasses vs not using glasses.
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#3 joeamis
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If your SDTV is big & you can only afford a smaller HDTV, don't bother buying one yet.
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If your SDTV is big & you can only afford a smaller HDTV, don't bother buying one yet.joeamis
ma SDTV is 37" and I dont have any money to use,
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You have a computer monitor, right? Consider getting that VGA cable and just seeing the difference for yourself. And there IS a difference.
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#6 Drumr32
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It's a big difference but SDTV isn't all that bad either.  I have a 32" SDTV and it looks great to me.
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#7 wtfandyk
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Yeah there deff is a difference because i just got an HDTV and had an SDTV.
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#8 Gregoroth
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View some HD game footage from somewhere such as gamtrailers.com, on your computer monitor. That will give you an IDEA of how good it would be.
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#9 ColoradoKindBud
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The diff between SD & HD is very big.  Once you go HD, you'll never go back to SD. 
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its all about HD.
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If you're not a graphics whore, you'll be okay with SDTV. I don't really care; I don't pour over on how detailed that one tile is by the far corner.
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#12 jericoY2J
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IDK the difrence but some how I find myself playing 360 on my HDTV. I got a 38 inch sony HDTV
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Go to quicktime.com and view their 720p trailers, or upto 1080p. 
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Yeah it's a big difference, I have a s-video connection in my room and the family room is HD. It's really a disadvantage online, because the visibility is tough with s-video. The mexican level in rainbow six , was the biggest difference, in my room the sky will blind you but when i go on the HD its not bad and i can see clearer. And that's really why i don't like playing shooter games online in S-video because it's hard to make stuff out.
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is a regular computer monitor hd?like a big boxy one?
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#16 TimothyB
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is a regular computer monitor hd?like a big boxy one?bolt2448


As long as montior can show as much as 1280*720 or higher it's HD. So basically almost any PC monitor is HD. Why do you think PC gamers hated consoles so much, it was unbearable to play on tvs when you could have high resolution graphics on a PC monitor. PC people have been playing games in HD long before the first Xbox came out. Atleast I first recall the big change was the ATI 9700 Pro I got and playing Battlefield 1942 all on high settings at 1280*960 with AA to smooth edges and AF to make textures razor sharp in all directions and angles. Seeing how old that was it was still hard to adjust to the 360 when most the launch games missed AA and the textures were blurry due to hardly any or no advance texture filtering.
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can you use that cable in laptops?
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So how do i connect my xbox 360 to my computer screen?
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If you're not a graphics whore, you'll be okay with SDTV. I don't really care; I don't pour over on how detailed that one tile is by the far corner.G4mbl3
If u are a Graphic Whore, Become a PC Gamer. My almost 12 Year Old Game for PC has better Graphics then Most Xbox 360 Games Out.
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The diff between SD & HD is very big. Once you go HD, you'll never go back to SD. ColoradoKindBud
thats whats i keep saying to my mates, i cant stand sdtv, i was playing on a 26" sdtv at my mates house,a nd my eyes were burning, ps2+ sdtv= OMG i love my 360
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Honestly, I don't see an extreme difference.  I have a 30" HDTV and a 20 sumthin inch SDTV.  I played my 360 on the SDTV for a while then I got the HD.  Yes, you can tell that there is a difference, but its not like omfg this is so awesome i think my eyes are going to explode.  Its not like it actually changes the graphics up much, it just makes it a little more clear and sharper.
 
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[QUOTE="joeamis"]If your SDTV is big & you can only afford a smaller HDTV, don't bother buying one yet.Toffe106
ma SDTV is 37" and I dont have any money to use,

Wait then. You have a nice big SDTV. Say you have 37''' SDTV, switching from that to a HDTV would only be better if the HDTV was atleast 32''. And even then it's questionable, would you want to spend a lot of money now to get a TV significantly smaller than the one you already have? Or wait 9-12 months and get a larger one than your SDTV?
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You have a computer monitor, right? Consider getting that VGA cable and just seeing the difference for yourself. And there IS a difference.SilV3RSix
A computer monitor and HDTV is the same thing. I used to play my 360 on my sdtv and couldnt read any font, and things were a little fuzzy, now that i play on my monitor its hd and real nice. Huge font and clear clear clear.
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#26 TimothyB
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Honestly, I don't see an extreme difference. I have a 30" HDTV and a 20 sumthin inch SDTV. I played my 360 on the SDTV for a while then I got the HD. Yes, you can tell that there is a difference, but its not like omfg this is so awesome i think my eyes are going to explode. Its not like it actually changes the graphics up much, it just makes it a little more clear and sharper.
Viedric


A 20inch SDTV are not that bad, it's small enough to seem clear. It's when you get larger 27-36inches SDs that the scanlines are noticable and bother my eyes and make it hard to enjoy some games. Depends on the game I guess and settings. I mean, connecting a computer to a 20inch tv at 640*480 can make text unreadable, completely useless for a computer, yet a progressive 1280*960 PC monitor is razor sharp down to the pixels.
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#27 remlap
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HD just looks so much better. I thought that the 360 looked good before on my SDTV. Hah. As soon as I took my 360 over to a friends house to play on his Dads HDTV I knew I'd have to buy my own.

It's true. Once you go HD, you never go back.

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#28 TimothyB
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can you use that cable in laptops? crazywayne287


Laptops only have VGA "OUT" to connect the laptop to another monitor, so it doesn't act like an input.
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#29 TimothyB
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So how do i connect my xbox 360 to my computer screen?roryrc
The official VGA cable of course. Just like connecting a monitor to a computer. And if the monitor has a permanent attached vga cable the MS VGA cable comes with an adapter to connect the end of the 360 VGA cable to the end of the monitor VGA cable.
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I believe HD is much better, but I don't understand how people say they can't read any text & they see scanlines on SDTV. No offense but I'm tired of hearing the "once you go HD you won't go back". Of course that is the case you don't need to state it, that's like saying "once you get a new PC you won't go back". HDTV makes your SDTV obsolete we all know that.
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I believe HD is much better, but I don't understand how people say they can't read any text & they see scanlines on SDTV. No offense but I'm tired of hearing the "once you go HD you won't go back". Of course that is the case you don't need to state it, that's like saying "once you get a new PC you won't go back". HDTV makes your SDTV obsolete we all know that.joeamis
I guess you've never played on a SDTV, because you CAN see scanlines and can barley read the text.
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I guess you've never played on a SDTV, because you CAN see scanlines and can barley read the text.littleman1992
he speaks the truth. i had a 27" SDTV and i couldnt play Dead Rising on my 360 because the scanlines went through the text, and the picture wasnt sharp enough to even read the objectives in most games so they were no fun to play. i ended up putting my 360 away for about a month until i bought a 37" HDTV because the 360 wasnt even playable with a SDTV.
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[QUOTE="littleman1992"]I guess you've never played on a SDTV, because you CAN see scanlines and can barley read the text.hoket
he speaks the truth. i had a 27" SDTV and i couldnt play Dead Rising on my 360 because the scanlines went through the text, and the picture wasnt sharp enough to even read the objectives in most games so they were no fun to play. i ended up putting my 360 away for about a month until i bought a 37" HDTV because the 360 wasnt even playable with a SDTV.

I've been playing on a SDTV since launch, never saw scanlines ever, never had a problem with text. Maybe people had/have bad tvs.
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[QUOTE="hoket"][QUOTE="littleman1992"]I guess you've never played on a SDTV, because you CAN see scanlines and can barley read the text.joeamis
he speaks the truth. i had a 27" SDTV and i couldnt play Dead Rising on my 360 because the scanlines went through the text, and the picture wasnt sharp enough to even read the objectives in most games so they were no fun to play. i ended up putting my 360 away for about a month until i bought a 37" HDTV because the 360 wasnt even playable with a SDTV.

I've been playing on a SDTV since launch, never saw scanlines ever, never had a problem with text. Maybe people had/have bad tvs.



When I had a cousin over and he saw Dead Rising on my HD tv his first response "Oh my god I can read the text," and being 55inches helped. I saw it on his 27inch tv and it was pretty tiny, tiny enough to be a pain but still readable.

What I think would help are some SD tvs, like a 32inch I had before, had a 16:9 mode that focuses the lines into 16:9 instead of just drawing black bars, it just skips the black bars, This made the image more progressive like, brighter, and no visible lines.
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Ok, I connected my PS2 and 360 up to my Samsung 23" HDTV. I watched fifa 07 on my 360 and then switched to the scart connection (with a flick of the remote, both consoles still connected and running), there I saw Pro evo 4 and GOD, I almost had a heart attack! I never knew the difference was that big! Sure, I had played the PS2 and then turned it off, had time for the vision to fade in my mind and then play the 360, but seeing the difference there and then was breathtaking. Let's just say the difference was huge, and leave it at that, before I wet myself... 
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depends how big the hdtv is if over 32" huge difference if under not so much
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massive, u dont realise it until u switch, R6 guns look so damn good!
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[QUOTE="joeamis"][QUOTE="hoket"][QUOTE="littleman1992"]I guess you've never played on a SDTV, because you CAN see scanlines and can barley read the text.TimothyB
he speaks the truth. i had a 27" SDTV and i couldnt play Dead Rising on my 360 because the scanlines went through the text, and the picture wasnt sharp enough to even read the objectives in most games so they were no fun to play. i ended up putting my 360 away for about a month until i bought a 37" HDTV because the 360 wasnt even playable with a SDTV.

I've been playing on a SDTV since launch, never saw scanlines ever, never had a problem with text. Maybe people had/have bad tvs.



When I had a cousin over and he saw Dead Rising on my HD tv his first response "Oh my god I can read the text," and being 55inches helped. I saw it on his 27inch tv and it was pretty tiny, tiny enough to be a pain but still readable.

What I think would help are some SD tvs, like a 32inch I had before, had a 16:9 mode that focuses the lines into 16:9 instead of just drawing black bars, it just skips the black bars, This made the image more progressive like, brighter, and no visible lines.

When it comes to Dead Rising & Lost Planet it's the game's fault, but I guess some people do have problems with scanlines... First I ever heard about people having that problem.
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To me, 32inch or larger SD tvs bother my eyes at normal viewing distances, it's like a eye dazzler effect with the horizontal lines on the screen. Happens on a nice high end Sony my Grandma has or my Uncels SD. I brought over Outfit and I couldn't stand playing on it, especially split screen
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For me, the difference between HD and SD is night and day.
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Anyone have a picture that would show this scanline effect? Weird how SDTV's hurt peoples eyes.
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Anyone have a picture that would show this scanline effect? Weird how SDTV's hurt peoples eyes.joeamis


Have you looked at 32inch+ SD tvs? There's a pattern on the screen. And a photo will make it worse since the screen is constantly interlaced to trick the eye into seeing a full picture a still would mess it up. So a photo can't do. I'm sure some tvs are better than others, and if you sit 10 feet away it shouldn't bother you but may still be noticable, but who wants to sit 10 feet from a 32inch tv, I can sit closer than that on a 55inch 768p tv and not be bothered, though, not to say pixels don't show up to the eye.
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[QUOTE="joeamis"]Anyone have a picture that would show this scanline effect? Weird how SDTV's hurt peoples eyes.TimothyB


Have you looked at 32inch+ SD tvs? There's a pattern on the screen. And a photo will make it worse since the screen is constantly interlaced to trick the eye into seeing a full picture a still would mess it up. So a photo can't do. I'm sure some tvs are better than others, and if you sit 10 feet away it shouldn't bother you but may still be noticable, but who wants to sit 10 feet from a 32inch tv, I can sit closer than that on a 55inch 768p tv and not be bothered, though, not to say pixels don't show up to the eye.

I have like a 27'' SDTV and game on it from about 3-4 feet away and have never seen scanlines or noticed it interlacing (if thats what people mean by scanlines). Same with the TV downstairs which is larger. I thought with interlacing it happens so fast that you shouldn't be able to notice actual scanlines, broadcast TV is at like what 24 frames/sec and games are usually 30-60 fps.
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#44 TimothyB
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[QUOTE="TimothyB"][QUOTE="joeamis"]Anyone have a picture that would show this scanline effect? Weird how SDTV's hurt peoples eyes.joeamis


Have you looked at 32inch+ SD tvs? There's a pattern on the screen. And a photo will make it worse since the screen is constantly interlaced to trick the eye into seeing a full picture a still would mess it up. So a photo can't do. I'm sure some tvs are better than others, and if you sit 10 feet away it shouldn't bother you but may still be noticable, but who wants to sit 10 feet from a 32inch tv, I can sit closer than that on a 55inch 768p tv and not be bothered, though, not to say pixels don't show up to the eye.

I have like a 27'' SDTV and game on it from about 3-4 feet away and have never seen scanlines or noticed it interlacing (if thats what people mean by scanlines). Same with the TV downstairs which is larger. I thought with interlacing it happens so fast that you shouldn't be able to notice actual scanlines, broadcast TV is at like what 24 frames/sec and games are usually 30-60 fps.



I didn't mean the interlacing of the screen, but more the pattern of the tv itself, the display. Sort of like you get close enough to an LCD you see the pixels or the space between the pixels, but on SD, tvs around 32inch usually are so bad to my eyes, fine for tv viewing from a distance, but being use to PC gaming in high resolution sitting in front of the screen, I could not confortably play a game on a SD tv at the distance I'd need to be.

Some tvs are better than others. But my grandma's 32+inch Sony Wega SD tv at normal sitting distance I can see a pattern of horizontal lines, not interlacing, but just the structure of the screen itself.
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[QUOTE="G4mbl3"]If you're not a graphics whore, you'll be okay with SDTV. I don't really care; I don't pour over on how detailed that one tile is by the far corner.ShadowDeathX
If u are a Graphic Whore, Become a PC Gamer. My almost 12 Year Old Game for PC has better Graphics then Most Xbox 360 Games Out.

Bull. What twelve year old game can you name that looks better than a 360 game?