I'd love to see the screenshots Epic showed MS with Gears running @ 256 vs 512

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#1 newgames128
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If it exists I think it would be going up as my background image immediately. After all, it is technically a billion dollar pic. Halo 3 at this point still doesn't look as good as Gears. I have my copy reserved though regardless.
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#2 jdub03
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COD4 is looking real nice.  I might have to get that instead of halo 3.  Or hold off on halo for the first month or two.
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Halo 3 will look amazing. We haven't seen the Covanent or Brutes, just Spartans. I have no doubt that the single player will have amzing graphics.
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#4 MartinRiggs15
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I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

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#5 Jeff_Boldt
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I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

MartinRiggs15

 

well said, I'd rather play a graphically "inferior" game with depth in it's story and original gameplay, than a shiney, graphically rich shooter with a terrible story and boring, booooring gameplay. 

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If it exists I think it would be going up as my background image immediately. After all, it is technically a billion dollar pic. Halo 3 at this point still doesn't look as good as Gears. I have my copy reserved though regardless. newgames128


I don't understand what Halo 3 has to do with the point of this thread?
I too am curious to see 256mb ram and 512mb ram comparisons of the GeOWs :)
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#7 Hoobinator
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[QUOTE="MartinRiggs15"]

I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

Jeff_Boldt

 

well said, I'd rather play a graphically "inferior" game with depth in it's story and original gameplay, than a shiney, graphically rich shooter with a terrible story and boring, booooring gameplay.

Yep that's why I'd play Deus Ex over Halo games anyday. :lol: 

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burn.

Halo's got the better MP, so there!  no really I'm much looking forward to some new Deus Ex, and some rumoured new System Shock aswell.

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[QUOTE="Jeff_Boldt"][QUOTE="MartinRiggs15"]

I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

Hoobinator

 

well said, I'd rather play a graphically "inferior" game with depth in it's story and original gameplay, than a shiney, graphically rich shooter with a terrible story and boring, booooring gameplay.

Yep that's why I'd play Deus Ex over Halo games anyday. :lol:

I envy you. I bought invisible war for 4 $ thinking it was BC but it's not, now I have to wait.
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#10 wreak
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it's wierd how no one is mentioning the amazing art direction halo 3 has.... i mean if anything thats more important to me that just plain old graphics, caus everything in halo just fits, and compliments it'self so much. gears is pretty fun for the first couple play throughs and all, but it's very un-inspired dark hallways aren't realy anything special.

just look at twilight princess, thats proof enough of how far art can take a game. or hell most FF titles for that matter. 

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#11 digi_matrix
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Jeff_Boldt"][QUOTE="MartinRiggs15"]

I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

madcapper248

 

well said, I'd rather play a graphically "inferior" game with depth in it's story and original gameplay, than a shiney, graphically rich shooter with a terrible story and boring, booooring gameplay.

Yep that's why I'd play Deus Ex over Halo games anyday. :lol:

I envy you. I bought invisible war for 4 $ thinking it was BC but it's not, now I have to wait.

I got that too for $6 a month ago. Awesome game, and obviously tons better than Halo. But I love both. Backstabbing companies, FTW! 

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#12 Mudig
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I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

MartinRiggs15

Not anymore it doesn't. It's the same crap for 6 years. Got old fast. 

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#13 m0n3z
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[QUOTE="MartinRiggs15"]

I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

Mudig

Not anymore it doesn't. It's the same crap for 6 years. Got old fast.

Agreed.  I played the beta for like 2 days and thought "what is the point? this is boring".  I loved Halo CE and played it in the dorms like crazy, but Halo 2 was pretty dumbed down, and I hope the beta is no indication of how the actual game will be.  I thought it was weak. 

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Anyone who says they want gameply over graphics is sorta flawed, the main point, and it is the main point of 360 from Xbox 1 is to have better graphics, if a game like Halo 3 doesnt have top notch visuals, but does have great gameplay.........then in my opinion itl is a failure, gameplay is nice, but you dont have a machine with those specs for gameplay, sorry but you just dont.
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Anyone who says they want gameply over graphics is sorta flawed, the main point, and it is the main point of 360 from Xbox 1 is to have better graphics, if a game like Halo 3 doesnt have top notch visuals, but does have great gameplay.........then in my opinion itl is a failure, gameplay is nice, but you dont have a machine with those specs for gameplay, sorry but you just dont.V4LENT1NE
Style over substance, FTW. Not.
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[QUOTE="MartinRiggs15"]

I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

Jeff_Boldt

 

well said, I'd rather play a graphically "inferior" game with depth in it's story and original gameplay, than a shiney, graphically rich shooter with a terrible story and boring, booooring gameplay.

*cough* killzone *cough* :)

 

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Anyone who says they want gameply over graphics is sorta flawed, the main point, and it is the main point of 360 from Xbox 1 is to have better graphics, if a game like Halo 3 doesnt have top notch visuals, but does have great gameplay.........then in my opinion itl is a failure, gameplay is nice, but you dont have a machine with those specs for gameplay, sorry but you just dont.blue_tape
Style over substance, FTW. Not.

All I am saying is graphics are very very important, if they dont improve graphics then whats the point of making new systems so fast? 

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I agree whilst games can still be good with poor graphics, graphics do make a differnce to how good a game is I'd prefer to play a really pritty game than an ugly one, however good gameplay does matter as well.
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#19 butterob
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nice way to avoid a thread getting locked...talk about another game and then change the subject to halo lol!!!
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#20 stevenk4k5
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Can someone just post the comparison pics please and STFU about Halo 3 (which has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, tbh).
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#21 edthetinker
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[QUOTE="MartinRiggs15"]

I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

Jeff_Boldt

 

well said, I'd rather play a graphically "inferior" game with depth in it's story and original gameplay, than a shiney, graphically rich shooter with a terrible story and boring, booooring gameplay. 

Well they better change an awful lot in the next few months then cause i was bored with the beta after 6 matches

I think I'll save my money for COD4 and GoW2 heck maybe even MoH Airborne

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lol Talk about a highjacked thread...
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This is the best one I could find

http://www.heimur.is/heimur/upload/images/heimur/tolvuheimur/gow001.jpg 

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All I am saying is graphics are very very important, if they dont improve graphics then whats the point of making new systems so fast?V4LENT1NE
If its top-notch graphics you're after, you need to get a PC. That's where the top-notch will always be. If you whine about the price, then maybe you'll need to lower your expectations. Anyway, the onus of graphics fall on the software designers, not the hardware designers. Resident Evil 4 is one of the best looking games of the last generation, yet it came out on the least powerful of the consoles. Ever wonder why that is? Furthermore, if graphics really were "very very important," then why do people still play old school games? Xbox Live Arcade is quite popular, but not because it looks nice.
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]All I am saying is graphics are very very important, if they dont improve graphics then whats the point of making new systems so fast?blue_tape
If its top-notch graphics you're after, you need to get a PC. That's where the top-notch will always be. If you whine about the price, then maybe you'll need to lower your expectations. Anyway, the onus of graphics fall on the software designers, not the hardware designers. Resident Evil 4 is one of the best looking games of the last generation, yet it came out on the least powerful of the consoles. Ever wonder why that is? Furthermore, if graphics really were "very very important," then why do people still play old school games? Xbox Live Arcade is quite popular, but not because it looks nice.

I have a gaming PC, you havent quite got the point. I am not saying there is anything wrong with old skool games, no doubt graphics arent everything, but there is no reason in the world you would put a 3.2ghz triple Core CPU, 512 DDR3 and a very high end GPU in a machine and not expect great looking visuals, Halo 3 should look amazing, thats what all that power is for. Theydidnt give it those specs for gameplay, they game it those specs to give you high end visuals, thats why I expect all new games to utilize this, otherwise I dont see the point in the purchase, thats all.

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COD4 is looking real nice.  I might have to get that instead of halo 3.  Or hold off on halo for the first month or two.jdub03

 COD4 is looking just as good as COD3, which was ehh...

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COD4 is looking real nice. I might have to get that instead of halo 3. Or hold off on halo for the first month or two.jdub03

first off, graphics aren't everything look at the wii. halo 3 is already good and it looks just a little bit better than halo 2. but that is all you have seen is the beta. THE GAME IS NOT FINISHED YET! THE GRAPHICS WILL GET BETTER. i wish people would quit complaining about unfinished graphics 

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This is the best one I could find

http://www.heimur.is/heimur/upload/images/heimur/tolvuheimur/gow001.jpg

q8hr

Beautiful!

Someone lock this thread before it turns into a graphic whore marathon :roll:

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[QUOTE="blue_tape"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]All I am saying is graphics are very very important, if they dont improve graphics then whats the point of making new systems so fast?V4LENT1NE

If its top-notch graphics you're after, you need to get a PC. That's where the top-notch will always be. If you whine about the price, then maybe you'll need to lower your expectations. Anyway, the onus of graphics fall on the software designers, not the hardware designers. Resident Evil 4 is one of the best looking games of the last generation, yet it came out on the least powerful of the consoles. Ever wonder why that is? Furthermore, if graphics really were "very very important," then why do people still play old school games? Xbox Live Arcade is quite popular, but not because it looks nice.

I have a gaming PC, you havent quite got the point. I am not saying there is anything wrong with old skool games, no doubt graphics arent everything, but there is no reason in the world you would put a 3.2ghz triple Core CPU, 512 DDR3 and a very high end GPU in a machine and not expect great looking visuals, Halo 3 should look amazing, thats what all that power is for. Theydidnt give it those specs for gameplay, they game it those specs to give you high end visuals, thats why I expect all new games to utilize this, otherwise I dont see the point in the purchase, thats all.

i agree with u V4LENT1NE, i'm not a graphics whore, but with those specs in the 360 all games should look amazing.  i remember the first time i played the 360 and just thinking "wow" after i saw the graphics.  and graphics are even that important to me.  but they definately added to the gameplay (fight night round 3).  all in all, if i spent $400 on a system that's games looked like xbox 1 games, then it really wouldn't be worth the purchase.

as for the topic.  i didn't even know that epic showed microsoft pics of gears running at 256 vs 512 ram :shock: i'd really like to see the comparisions.  hopefully they'll release the pics

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You probably wont see much of a difference in terms of screenshots, the textures in the 256 build will be scrappier anyway due to age so it will likely be an unfair comparison. In motion though you will likely see the difference, better framerate in the 512 version likely.
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every single topic on every 360 forum boards seem to come back to Halo in one way or another
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COD4 is looking real nice.  I might have to get that instead of halo 3.  Or hold off on halo for the first month or two.jdub03
Do what?  Hold out on Halo???  What kind of fan are you!?
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#33 lawlessx
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halo3 can not end up looking like gears because they dont use the same engine. and i would really like to know how can you make such a statement as the graphics arent looking so great when we havent even seen the single player portion of the game.
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[QUOTE="blue_tape"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Anyone who says they want gameply over graphics is sorta flawed, the main point, and it is the main point of 360 from Xbox 1 is to have better graphics, if a game like Halo 3 doesnt have top notch visuals, but does have great gameplay.........then in my opinion itl is a failure, gameplay is nice, but you dont have a machine with those specs for gameplay, sorry but you just dont.V4LENT1NE

Style over substance, FTW. Not.

All I am saying is graphics are very very important, if they dont improve graphics then whats the point of making new systems so fast? 

Agreed

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[QUOTE="jdub03"]COD4 is looking real nice. I might have to get that instead of halo 3. Or hold off on halo for the first month or two.bballplaya17

first off, graphics aren't everything look at the wii. halo 3 is already good and it looks just a little bit better than halo 2. but that is all you have seen is the beta. THE GAME IS NOT FINISHED YET! THE GRAPHICS WILL GET BETTER. i wish people would quit complaining about unfinished graphics 

but wii are not focusing at the graphics, with those specs they cant focus on the graphics, but 360 with it specs all games should look good

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[QUOTE="bballplaya17"]

[QUOTE="jdub03"]COD4 is looking real nice. I might have to get that instead of halo 3. Or hold off on halo for the first month or two.Atlemann

first off, graphics aren't everything look at the wii. halo 3 is already good and it looks just a little bit better than halo 2. but that is all you have seen is the beta. THE GAME IS NOT FINISHED YET! THE GRAPHICS WILL GET BETTER. i wish people would quit complaining about unfinished graphics

but wii are not focusing at the graphics, with those specs they cant focus on the graphics, but 360 with it specs all games should look good

so what your saying is all games on the 360 should look the same..correct? 

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#37 GameArtGuy
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Apperently the idea of style and theme have never crossed your mind.  Gears looks great because of its look. It looks good because its realistic (to an extend).  Halo3 on the other hand has a theme, they are not aiming for photo realistic.  Halo uses a lot of purples, greens, and blues because those are the colors that best convey the type of setting you are in (kinda future, not human for the most part). 

 People now for some reason think unless its grey and brown, its not good looking.

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[QUOTE="MartinRiggs15"]

I don't think the graphics matter for Halo, the gameplay puts it over the top.

Jeff_Boldt

 

well said, I'd rather play a graphically "inferior" game with depth in it's story and original gameplay, than a shiney, graphically rich shooter with a terrible story and boring, booooring gameplay.

 

are you kidding halo 3 original gameplay? it's just a sequel to another FPS what makes it an original gameplay? 

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#39 jc_tkml
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[QUOTE="Atlemann"][QUOTE="bballplaya17"]

[QUOTE="jdub03"]COD4 is looking real nice. I might have to get that instead of halo 3. Or hold off on halo for the first month or two.lawlessx

first off, graphics aren't everything look at the wii. halo 3 is already good and it looks just a little bit better than halo 2. but that is all you have seen is the beta. THE GAME IS NOT FINISHED YET! THE GRAPHICS WILL GET BETTER. i wish people would quit complaining about unfinished graphics

but wii are not focusing at the graphics, with those specs they cant focus on the graphics, but 360 with it specs all games should look good

so what your saying is all games on the 360 should look the same..correct?

 

no he's saying that a AAA sequel to the system's seller should have a better gfx 

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#40 CPM_basic
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Wow the TC is such an ignorant bum. If he had an HDTV he wouldn't be dissing Halo 3's graphics. Second of all it's a friggen beta, not only that a multiplayer one. Third of all who gives a crap. Halo 3 blows gears of war away on every level in multiplayer.

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#41 blue_tape
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Oh, I think I might have missed the point. We're now here complaining about why the 360 games don't look better while at the same time buying and playing them. Well, because of this behavior, game developers don't *need* to make games any better than they are. The games are selling, the consoles are selling and that's all that matters in the end. I consider myself an average gamer and I think what I've seen on the 360 is great so far. My exposure is as limited as my budget, which doesn't include a high-end gaming PC.
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[QUOTE="blue_tape"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Anyone who says they want gameply over graphics is sorta flawed, the main point, and it is the main point of 360 from Xbox 1 is to have better graphics, if a game like Halo 3 doesnt have top notch visuals, but does have great gameplay.........then in my opinion itl is a failure, gameplay is nice, but you dont have a machine with those specs for gameplay, sorry but you just dont.V4LENT1NE

Style over substance, FTW. Not.

All I am saying is graphics are very very important, if they dont improve graphics then whats the point of making new systems so fast?

AI, physics, environment(detail and size), amount of characters on screen, amount of depth a game can have, steady frame rate for otherwise games that would be unstable on a last gen console. I can go on. 

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Anyone who says they want gameply over graphics is sorta flawed, the main point, and it is the main point of 360 from Xbox 1 is to have better graphics, if a game like Halo 3 doesnt have top notch visuals, but does have great gameplay.........then in my opinion itl is a failure, gameplay is nice, but you dont have a machine with those specs for gameplay, sorry but you just dont.V4LENT1NE
Ya but IDK y every1 is down on the halo3 graphics, the graphics in halo3 are top notch, they are very clean, crisp, and sharp. If you have not seen the game in person on an hdtv then go do it, because the game does look a little crappy in the gamespot, and other game website's gameplay movies. But with me even watching the gameplay movies and the marathon in the little WMP window, I could tell the graphics were much better than halo2 and really nice.