it sounds like Bordlands is more fuzz than pop...

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#1 Trinitarian
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Well its only one more day and the 8 or so reviews out now is suggesting this game to be quit average. I really thought this game would have been beyond a better than average type of game. I haven't played it yet but i'm nervous to drop the full 60 bucks right now. Anyone else surprised or slightly disappointed that this game doesn't come across in the early reviews as something that could be epic? To me it seems like it will likely become a filler game for the beast that coming Nov 10. I'm hoping it will become more than that seeing how i've been following it for a long time.

for example. IGN reveiw said

"but more hardcore gamerslooking for more options for bolstering stats might feel something's missing'

Things like this is getting me worried... cause i'm a hardcore gamer..

Another thing that has me shaking in myh boots is that IGN said

"around 20 or so hours of content for a single playthrough"

I thought the first play through would have been 60 to 70 hours. So again the epic scale is being dimished.

I guess i was looking for something on the console that would feel something like WoW but that is definitly not coming from this lol.

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The lowest score I've seen it get is an 8.5, I could be wrong, however. 8.5 is pretty darn good in my book.
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#4 mitu123
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We need to wait for more reviews, it's a 86 at metacritic with just 8 reviews!

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the reviews are pretty positive, actually. they're not perfect, but it's looking pretty good. I can't wait to get this game tomorrow :D
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#6 KC_Hokie
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It's getting good but not great reviews. It probably did get more hype then it deserves but it's far from a bust.
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#7 Trinitarian
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It's getting good but not great reviews. It probably did get more hype then it deserves but it's far from a bust.KC_Hokie
yeah i agree it seems like it had way more hype. I hate when I get over hyped for a game because if its good but not epic i get sort of let down instead of being happy i got a good game.
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#8 Da_lil_PimP
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Well its only one more day and the 8 or so reviews out now is suggesting this game to be quit average. I really thought this game would have been beyond a better than average type of game. I haven't played it yet but i'm nervous to drop the full 60 bucks right now. Anyone else surprised or slightly disappointed that this game doesn't come across in the early reviews as something that could be epic? To me it seems like it will likely become a filler game for the beast that coming Nov 20. I'm hoping it will become more than that seeing how i've been following it for a long time.

Trinitarian
That beast of a game comes out November 10th. Don't make it seem longer. I can't wait
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]It's getting good but not great reviews. It probably did get more hype then it deserves but it's far from a bust.Trinitarian
yeah i agree it seems like it had way more hype. I hate when I get over hyped for a game because if its good but not epic i get sort of let down instead of being happy i got a good game.

With so many great games coming out I think I might just rent it or wait until it drops in price.
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My only question is, if this had COD or Halo in its title would it get a better review? COD: FPSRPG

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#11 jad206
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]It's getting good but not great reviews. It probably did get more hype then it deserves but it's far from a bust.Trinitarian
yeah i agree it seems like it had way more hype. I hate when I get over hyped for a game because if its good but not epic i get sort of let down instead of being happy i got a good game.

What do you think "epic" will mean? 10/10? thats impossiable. From everythign i heard the only thing bad about this game is....picking up amo. The only way this game could be bad, is if Gearbox's actually TRIES to make it sh*t.

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It's getting good but not great reviews. It probably did get more hype then it deserves but it's far from a bust.KC_Hokie
We should wait for more reviews though, the game is just coming out. When it gets above 20, we'll see.
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I believe it's been getting mostly mid to high 8's. Since when was that "average"? Generally, game reviews consider 7 average. 8 is good, 8.5 to 9.0 is very good, 9.0 - 9.5 is exceptionally good, and above that is stellar/ nearly flawless. Borderlands sounds great. IGN's 8.8 review told me exactly what I expected to hear: weak story, but lots of crazy gunplay lined with Diablo style loot-RPG elements and 4-player co-op. Except I predicted an 8.9. I'll be getting it for sure.
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Well from the reviews I've gotten its a nice hybrid between RPGs and shooters. These are my two favorite genres of games, so I'm hoping it is good!

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i only see shoot everything that moves in the gameplay videos

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I believe it's been getting mostly mid to high 8's. Since when was that "average"? Generally, game reviews consider 7 average. 8 is good, 8.5 to 9.0 is very good, 9.0 - 9.5 is exceptionally good, and above that is stellar/ nearly flawless. Borderlands sounds great. IGN's 8.8 review told me exactly what I expected to hear: weak story, but lots of crazy gunplay lined with Diablo style loot-RPG elements and 4-player co-op. Except I predicted an 8.9. I'll be getting it for sure.bluem00se
It sounds like a weak story and A.I. will keep if from from getting anything more than very good reviews.
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20 or so hours for the MAIN QUEST, not for hitting level 50, doing all of the side quests can take over 100 hours.

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[QUOTE="bluem00se"]I believe it's been getting mostly mid to high 8's. Since when was that "average"? Generally, game reviews consider 7 average. 8 is good, 8.5 to 9.0 is very good, 9.0 - 9.5 is exceptionally good, and above that is stellar/ nearly flawless. Borderlands sounds great. IGN's 8.8 review told me exactly what I expected to hear: weak story, but lots of crazy gunplay lined with Diablo style loot-RPG elements and 4-player co-op. Except I predicted an 8.9. I'll be getting it for sure.KC_Hokie
It sounds like a weak story and A.I. will keep if from from getting anything more than very good reviews.

Probably true, but I was expecting it. Reading previews on the game convinced me that the story would not be one of it's selling points. But then again, a lot of games these days skimp on the story, especially western games, shooters, and most especially western shooters and rpgs. Only a handful of titles this generation have had great stories IMO, and most of them were PS3 exclusives: off the top of my head... MGS4, Valkyria Chronicles, Uncharted 1 -2, Mass Effect, Bioshock, and Lost Odyssey. Most games this gen have had 'meh' stories or sometimes slightly above average stories but redemption in other categories.
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I read this game can be one of the most exciting games you play, or it can be the most boring and frustrating thing ever created, depedning if you're playing with friends or not.

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#20 mitu123
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20 or so hours for the MAIN QUEST, not for hitting level 50, doing all of the side quests can take over 100 hours.

jad206
Gametrailers took 30 hours for them on their main quest, sounds like it varies in that, which is good if it's long.
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#21 jad206
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[QUOTE="jad206"]

20 or so hours for the MAIN QUEST, not for hitting level 50, doing all of the side quests can take over 100 hours.

mitu123

Gametrailers took 30 hours for them on their main quest, sounds like it varies in that, which is good if it's long.

I am going to spend about 30 hours just walking around shooting things,

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Giant Bomb review said and I quote: "Speaking of hours, I completed a first run of Borderlands in around 18 hours, completing almost every quest I could find. Getting one character up to level 50 took around 35 hours." GB reviewer = officially more skilled than other reviewers :P
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Giant Bomb review said and I quote: "Speaking of hours, I completed a first run of Borderlands in around 18 hours, completing almost every quest I could find. Getting one character up to level 50 took around 35 hours." GB reviewer = officially more skilled than other reviewers :Psalxis
something is really telling me in my gut not to buy this game tomorrow, i think i will be highly disappointed, lol. i mean dam to get a character to lvl 50 in only 35 hours is so freaking sad, i'm sorry and only 18 hours for the main and all known side quest makes me want to puke. After this i'm never going to sell into to hype i hate it.

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#24 KC_Hokie
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something is really telling me in my gut not to buy this game tomorrow, i think i will be highly disappointed, lol. i mean dam to get a character to lvl 50 in only 35 hours is so freaking sad, i'm sorry and only 18 hours for the main and all known side quest makes me want to puke. After this i'm never going to sell into to hype i hate it.Trinitarian
You might want to hang onto your $60 then with Dragon Age, Modern Warfare 2, Left 4 Dead 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 all coming out within a month.
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Well its only one more day and the 8 or so reviews out now is suggesting this game to be quit average. I really thought this game would have been beyond a better than average type of game. I haven't played it yet but i'm nervous to drop the full 60 bucks right now. Anyone else surprised or slightly disappointed that this game doesn't come across in the early reviews as something that could be epic? To me it seems like it will likely become a filler game for the beast that coming Nov 10. I'm hoping it will become more than that seeing how i've been following it for a long time.

for example. IGN reveiw said

"but more hardcore gamerslooking for more options for bolstering stats might feel something's missing'

Things like this is getting me worried... cause i'm a hardcore gamer..

Another thing that has me shaking in myh boots is that IGN said

"around 20 or so hours of content for a single playthrough"

I thought the first play through would have been 60 to 70 hours. So again the epic scale is being dimished.

I guess i was looking for something on the console that would feel something like WoW but that is definitly not coming from this lol.

Trinitarian

:lol: hardcore and hyping MW2? :lol:

That's like saying "I only play AAA titles" and listing Vampire Rain as your favorite game ever.

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#26 JS0123456789
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The metacritic average for Borderlands is 87, those aren't "average numbers." Once again people who were flaky on this game or thought it would disappoint are trying to come up with creative ways to say an 87 on metacrtic is average, well it's not, it means the game is great with a few flaws. It's a great score for a new and different IP going up against established sequels. If you thought this game was going to get a 7 review score average and be a failure you were wrong.

Reviewers tend to rush through games rather than taking their time, they have a review to write and a deadline, they don't have time to take their time. Branon505 who has been streaming live has put in 50 hours and he has yet to beat the game.

Great job OP, you've picked through a few overwhelmingly positive reviews and found a few things to nit-pick and then declared the game to be average. If you don't want it then don't buy it.

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#27 Trinitarian
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[QUOTE="Trinitarian"]something is really telling me in my gut not to buy this game tomorrow, i think i will be highly disappointed, lol. i mean dam to get a character to lvl 50 in only 35 hours is so freaking sad, i'm sorry and only 18 hours for the main and all known side quest makes me want to puke. After this i'm never going to sell into to hype i hate it.KC_Hokie
You might want to hang onto your $60 then with Dragon Age, Modern Warfare 2, Left 4 Dead 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 all coming out within a month.

yeah i agree, my thing is i can only get two new games until Christmas. Bordlands and Dragon Age was going to be my pick. However, yesterday, i found out i am getting an internet connection so im going to get Xbox live back once again YEAH BABY. So now i really want CODMW2 and Dragon Age. I didn't like AC 1 so i doubt if i'll like 2. U never played LFD 1 in actual co-op but when i played it solo i didn't think i'd like it online. umm, i had so many high hopes fro Borderlands and I really want to pcik it up tommorrow since i have already paid for it but man, the facts are not living up to the hype.
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C: I'm not sure what school you went to but, a 70 is average and an 87 is far above average. I personally, can't wait to get it and I could care less what the reviews say.

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#29 JS0123456789
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When was this game ever supposed to be WoW on the consoles? The OP obviously expected the game to be something it was never supposed to be and never claimed to be. It is a shooter with RPG elements.

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#30 heno222
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well the 8 reviews are pretty darn good. and just because a review site says its not great dosen't mean that you wont like it. everybody has different personal reviews.
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So if an 87% metacritic score is the new "average" score, then what would you consider "above average"? Are we suddenly saying that any game that doesn't get 95% is a bad game?
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So if an 87% metacritic score is the new "average" score, then what would you consider "above average"? Are we suddenly saying that any game that doesn't get 95% is a bad game?UT_Wrestler
well if i recalled i thought i said that the game was slighlty above average game. I mean, 60 bucks is a lot of money to drop on a game that is not a AAA title. I can rarly afford to pay that amount of money for games these days and usually wait for till the price decreases. Nevertheless, this title isn't proving to me, at least in my current economic situation, a 60 dollar purchase. In fact, i had to save for about 2 months to have this game preordered, That's how sure i was in the game being somewhat of a block buster. However, the vibe that i'm getting is, within the context of a handful of great games, will only be average in that sense or slightly above average in the larger context, that this game is a hard buy for someone who is broke, lol. Back when i had a good job and 60 bucks was like chump change i wouldn't have thought twice about getting it, but times are different for me these days. And something that is not a "over the top sensation" makes it hard for me to justify a full price buy, Anyway, with all this complaining i'm doing i'll probably be getting the dam thing tomorrow any way, which i will hope to God that my current gut feelings are wrong cause if i buy it and i'm right i'll be so pissed off.
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just bc a game gets a 85 doesnt mean its garbage... i could check your gamertag. and im sure not every game there is 9.5 material.

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#34 lawlessx
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just bc a game gets a 85 doesnt mean its garbage... i could check your gamertag. and im sure not every game there is 9.5 material.

MissMorphine

sadly there are people that do only buy games that are rated AAA everywhere. i know very well that money can be an issue here,but i personally buy games that i know im going to enjoy reguardless of what a reviewer says. for $60 this game has more than enough content for me to be happy untill Q1 when more games come out like bioshock 2 and mass effect 2.

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These Borderland threads are starting to get really annoying.

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[QUOTE="salxis"]Giant Bomb review said and I quote: "Speaking of hours, I completed a first run of Borderlands in around 18 hours, completing almost every quest I could find. Getting one character up to level 50 took around 35 hours." GB reviewer = officially more skilled than other reviewers :PTrinitarian

something is really telling me in my gut not to buy this game tomorrow, i think i will be highly disappointed, lol. i mean dam to get a character to lvl 50 in only 35 hours is so freaking sad, i'm sorry and only 18 hours for the main and all known side quest makes me want to puke. After this i'm never going to sell into to hype i hate it.

C: So, getting 1 character out of 4 to level 50 in 35 hours is sad? Four times 35 is how many hours? Did I mention there was deathmatch as well? Personally, I can't wait to get this game it sounds outstanding.

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#37 xbx4ever
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[QUOTE="MissMorphine"]

just bc a game gets a 85 doesnt mean its garbage... i could check your gamertag. and im sure not every game there is 9.5 material.

lawlessx

sadly there are people that do only buy games that are rated AAA everywhere. i know very well that money can be an issue here,but i personally buy games that i know im going to enjoy reguardless of what a reviewer says. for $60 this game has more than enough content for me to be happy untill Q1 when more games come out like bioshock 2 and mass effect 2.

Perfectly said, I agree 100 percent.

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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]So if an 87% metacritic score is the new "average" score, then what would you consider "above average"? Are we suddenly saying that any game that doesn't get 95% is a bad game?Trinitarian
well if i recalled i thought i said that the game was slighlty above average game. I mean, 60 bucks is a lot of money to drop on a game that is not a AAA title. I can rarly afford to pay that amount of money for games these days and usually wait for till the price decreases. Nevertheless, this title isn't proving to me, at least in my current economic situation, a 60 dollar purchase. In fact, i had to save for about 2 months to have this game preordered, That's how sure i was in the game being somewhat of a block buster. However, the vibe that i'm getting is, within the context of a handful of great games, will only be average in that sense or slightly above average in the larger context, that this game is a hard buy for someone who is broke, lol. Back when i had a good job and 60 bucks was like chump change i wouldn't have thought twice about getting it, but times are different for me these days. And something that is not a "over the top sensation" makes it hard for me to justify a full price buy, Anyway, with all this complaining i'm doing i'll probably be getting the dam thing tomorrow any way, which i will hope to God that my current gut feelings are wrong cause if i buy it and i'm right i'll be so pissed off.

First of all if you type a message with over say...five lines of text use the enter button to break it up, otherwise it becomes a wall of text.

Second, if you don't have any money then you should not be buying any games. This is a big problem with the "global" economy right now. Credit is a means to allow you to easily acces your money not live on or overextend yourself. So if you truly have no money (or very limited funds) do not buy this game with it.

Thirdly, IGN says the game is GREAT...not good...not average, it is great according to their score. AAA's are not the only "good" games out their. Some of my favorite games from this generation have been AA titles: Dead Rising, Sacred 2, two worlds and Dead Space (currently Borderland's is outscoring or nearly tied with all of these games on Metacritic). If you only play mainstream hyped games then you will miss out on a lot of "good" ones.

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#39 mitu123
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These Borderland threads are starting to get really annoying.

Childeater10
You can expect lots of threads about a game coming out that's well known, imagine Modern Warfare 2, it'll be worse than this.
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#40 jmartinez1983
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Ok, sorry you don't like it. Feel free not to play the game. I, on the other hand, will be playing it plenty this weekend and be enjoying it for the good parts rather than concentrating on all the "bad" or "disappointing" parts. But you are free to nitpick and miss out on the fun if you want.
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#41 jmartinez1983
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[QUOTE="Childeater10"]

These Borderland threads are starting to get really annoying.

mitu123

You can expect lots of threads about a game coming out that's well known, imagine Modern Warfare 2, it'll be worse than this.

Oh yeah. If MW2 doesn't score a 9.5 or above I just know there will be flaming going on everywhere. Same will go for Dragon Age and maybe even Mass Effect.

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#42 ChrisGamer5757
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why does gamespot love being the slowest reviewing game critics out there... for places like this that make such emmense profit and are actually given the games well in advance of it's release. There's not really any excuse for why the review shouldn't be out the second the game is released. LAzy

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#43 OfficialBed
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Average? Really? What reviews are you reading? Definitely not the same ones everyone else is reading...