I've tried to ignore it, but $59.99 is just too much.

I forked out $67 for Halo 3, which was worth it in my opinion. I actually found Oblivion GOTY Edition on Amazon for 49.99, permanently (not just for black Friday) with no tax because it's online. In fact, most of what they have is cheaper than ground retailers. I got Forza 2 with my 360, and I found Perfect Dark Zero used for $9.99.

Those are the only games I own. $67 for one game, when you include tax, is just ridiculous. Everything else I've played with friends. Assasin's Creed is repetetive after the first few hours. COD4 is short, and I don't think the multiplayer is as good as Halo 3. Mass Effect I haven't heard much about. Gears of War is just not fun to me even, I hate the 3rd person. In my opinion these games are still plagued with many of the same problems we were getting in games last generation, and it's pretty lame to raise the prices $10 bucks, for what? Graphics? Sure you can argue that they all have Live play so you get your money's worth out of them, but you have to pay another $50 for Live, plus money for any decent DL content.

Too much IMO, maybe it's just me.

Yeah man, I'd rather pay 20 bucks for new games. I wouldn't mind that games would have to be scaled down to be profitable at that price. So yeah, that means barely tested, buggy games with bad gameplay and graphics.

You get what you pay for in general. Buy the right games and $60 bucks is a steal. Do you mind paying 6-10 bucks to go to the movies? If you pay 6 bucks for a movie that lasts 2 hours, you just spent 3 bucks an hour to be entertained. A 60 dollar game that lasts a mere 20 hours gets you the same amount of entertainment per dollar. Plus you can replay a game all you want and even sell it back for a smaller amount of money.

All in all, gaming is a pretty cheap form of entertainment when you look at the whole picture.

yea i no but if we keep buying them at that price. they willl keep selling games at that priceou661

Yeah, but then again, if we don't buy em for that price, they stop making games and go do something more profitable. Its expensive to make the games we like to play, so they have to charge a lot. Get a job and get with it.

Remember reading in Xbox magazine.

Retailers make $12, Manufacturing and Licensing cost $12, Marketing is about $7, Research and development is $10 and the makers want to make $20.

Personally I agree, which is why I have been using Gamefly and renting my 360 games instead of buying them.tkemory

*highfives*

I do that too. If I've rented a game I want to buy to own, I just keep renting it until its cheaper on Gamefly, then I just buy it from there.

being entertaind at the movies and being entertained from a video game is completly diffrent things so you can't compar prices thierou661

How so? In either case you are paying money for entertainment. When you pay for a movie you are paying to see the movie, when you buy a game you are paying to play the game.

The only real difference is that you get to keep the game, but you only get to see the movie once for that price of admission.

Tell me how you think they are completely different and then maybe this conversation can go somewhere.

I read about this in an OXM magazine. They have sell like a million copies to make money off the game even at 60 bucks. Something like that. Idk its still WAY too steep. Thats why i rarely buy games now unless I'm SURE i'll play the hell out of them. I do my research and try the demo. And it it doesn't have mad replay value im not gonna put out the 60 for it.culda89

Yeah man, I'd rather pay 20 bucks for new games. I wouldn't mind that games would have to be scaled down to be profitable at that price. So yeah, that means barely tested, buggy games with bad gameplay and graphics.

You get what you pay for in general. Buy the right games and $60 bucks is a steal. Do you mind paying 6-10 bucks to go to the movies? If you pay 6 bucks for a movie that lasts 2 hours, you just spent 3 bucks an hour to be entertained. A 60 dollar game that lasts a mere 20 hours gets you the same amount of entertainment per dollar. Plus you can replay a game all you want and even sell it back for a smaller amount of money.

All in all, gaming is a pretty cheap form of entertainment when you look at the whole picture.

jmartinez1983

Actually movies with a student ID where I am cost $4, and that's irrelevant to me anyways. I was fine paying 49.99 for really good games last generation. I don't want them to drop the price to 20 bucks man, cut the bull****. I want them to either drop the price a few dollars, or start making games that are worth as much as they're charging. I'd prefer that they scale the detailed graphics back a little bit and use that processing power to make a game with more depth and variety. The $10 raise in game prices was not related to production costs, it was a profit move by the leaders in the industry. The problem is, they don't deserve anymore for what they are giving us.

production costs are up, therefore product prices go uplive4thepackers

Funny how the same games with the same "production costs" are cheaper on PC...I dont like the prices either, but I guess I will pay them untill Im done with gaming.

[QUOTE="jmartinez1983"]

Yeah man, I'd rather pay 20 bucks for new games. I wouldn't mind that games would have to be scaled down to be profitable at that price. So yeah, that means barely tested, buggy games with bad gameplay and graphics.

You get what you pay for in general. Buy the right games and $60 bucks is a steal. Do you mind paying 6-10 bucks to go to the movies? If you pay 6 bucks for a movie that lasts 2 hours, you just spent 3 bucks an hour to be entertained. A 60 dollar game that lasts a mere 20 hours gets you the same amount of entertainment per dollar. Plus you can replay a game all you want and even sell it back for a smaller amount of money.

All in all, gaming is a pretty cheap form of entertainment when you look at the whole picture.

Rhythmic_

Actually movies with a student ID where I am cost $4, and that's irrelevant to me anyways. I was fine paying 49.99 for really good games last generation. I don't want them to drop the price to 20 bucks man, cut the bull****. I want them to either drop the price a few dollars, or start making games that are worth as much as they're charging. I'd prefer that they scale the detailed graphics back a little bit and use that processing power to make a game with more depth and variety. The $10 raise in game prices was not related to production costs, it was a profit move by the leaders in the industry. The problem is, they don't deserve anymore for what they are giving us.

Actually, movies cost different amounts depending on where you are. Live in NYC? Expect to pay $10. Where I am now, also with a student ID, the movies are $6.50.

The $20 dollar figure is an exaggeration used to make a point. So calm down there skipper.

Honestly, there's really nothing to complain about here. Mad at having to spend 60 bucks instead of 50? Wait a few weeks after a game is released and get it used from a store like Gamecrazy (used versions of new releases are only 50 bucks with the $10 membership card) or get it off the internet a few weeks after release. Better yet, get the brand new games you want, beat them, then sell them back on the internet for 40 bucks even a few months after they are released.

There are so many ways to save money on games, you just have to do your work as a consumer. Who pays full price anymore?

While not all of the $10 increase was related to production cost, I'm sure at least part of it was, maybe most of it. Regardless, a good number of the games released now are definitely worth the price tag. You buy those games and wait for the rest to become more affordable, there's rarely ever a need to play a game the first day it comes out, there's always something else cheaper around that you could play while that one gets cheaper.

[QUOTE="culda89"]I read about this in an OXM magazine. They have sell like a million copies to make money off the game even at 60 bucks. Something like that. Idk its still WAY too steep. Thats why i rarely buy games now unless I'm SURE i'll play the hell out of them. I do my research and try the demo. And it it doesn't have mad replay value im not gonna put out the 60 for it.jet2892

Yea, I do this too. I do a ton of research and read lots of player reviews, in addition to Gamespot and other places. That's what led me to throw down the money for Oblivion GOTY Edition...and it was well worth it, because that is one amazing game. With Halo 3, I just love the Halo series in general, and I wanted to see the end of the story. It was slightly disappointing, but I still play it all the time online.

Assasin's Creed is definitely misleading, especially from the GS review. They made it look way too good and almost got me to buy it.Luckily I checked some other sites and called a few of my friends, and they weren't quite so up on it. I may pick it up later used.

my parents buy my games, i could care less. I only buy games that have very good ratings from gamespot - i don't waste my money. Or for that matter, my mom'sPC_JOE_9

haha, wow. get a job and stop being a drain on your mother. haha

i dont buy games too often. i have found, for other things than games even, that amazon is a GREAT place to order from. they usually offer everything with a discount and if it is over 25 bucks, free shipping

i agree gears of war still id 60 dollars in washington every xbox 360 game is 40 dollars is perfect i think.

I agree but there is nothing we can do about it so your gonna have to get over it.sonofabear17

Actually to be honest we could. but it would never happen. you just boycott for a while. theyd be forced to drop prices. but EVERYONE would have to do it and overall it would probably hurt the industry.

Its interesting. People could really lower prices of the jacked up abercrombie and hollister stores. But everyones too dumb to stop buying their **** because its whats "in" right now.

[QUOTE="sonofabear17"]I agree but there is nothing we can do about it so your gonna have to get over it.culda89

Actually to be honest we could. but it would never happen. you just boycott for a while. theyd be forced to drop prices. but EVERYONE would have to do it and overall it would probably hurt the industry.

Its interesting. People could really lower prices of the jacked up abercrombie and hollister stores. But everyones too dumb to stop buying their **** because its whats "in" right now.

Even a perfectly organized boycott wouldn't get us exactly what some people want: the same games for much less. If we stopped buying their games at $60, they would just cut back on production costs until they could make a $40 game. Overall quality would suffer greatly. There is no way we'd get the same quality games for $40ish dollars brand new.

Remember reading in Xbox magazine.

Retailers make $12, Manufacturing and Licensing cost $12, Marketing is about $7, Research and development is $10 and the makers want to make $20.

mrgab

yeah, i remember reading that too

If you think $60 is bad. Look at the Rock Band price tag.

I agree with you though.

think of us in australia... we pay upwards of $110adders99

my parents buy my games, i could care less. I only buy games that have very good ratings from gamespot - i don't waste my money. Or for that matter, my mom'sPC_JOE_9

isn't it, I couldn't care less? sorry to be a pain in the ass, iv seen a few people on these forums that write it the same way as "pc_jo_9" as was wondering who is correct.

[QUOTE="adders99"]think of us in australia... we pay upwards of $110illbitcrusher

my parents buy my games, i could care less. I only buy games that have very good ratings from gamespot - i don't waste my money. Or for that matter, my mom'sPC_JOE_9

Get a job and if ur "underage" mow lawns or shovel snow

[QUOTE="PC_JOE_9"]my parents buy my games, i could care less. I only buy games that have very good ratings from gamespot - i don't waste my money. Or for that matter, my mom'sBassKreator

Get a job and if ur "underage" mow lawns or shovel snow

what if he lives in arizona? here almost nobody has grass on their lawn and there is no snow. think about that. ;)

As said before. 60$ even US is a lot cheaper than what we here in Australia pay. games are released up to 120$ which in US is about 108$

Ebay is cheaper to get games from. Online retailers are cheaper to get games from. But if you have a problem with the game you have to send it back and wait for replacement. if you buy used, then no returns possible.

I agree that paying for live to play online games is absolute rubbish. Look at the ps2. you pay for a game that has net play and then can play it. The should make it cheaper for xbox live games since you have to pay for live.

while a lot of people pay for live it will remain a user pays system. all it would take is everyone to not renew their subscriptions to get the price reduced.

I forked out $67 for Halo 3, which was worth it in my opinion. I actually found Oblivion GOTY Edition on Amazon for 49.99, permanently (not just for black Friday) with no tax because it's online. In fact, most of what they have is cheaper than ground retailers. I got Forza 2 with my 360, and I found Perfect Dark Zero used for $9.99.

Those are the only games I own. $67 for one game, when you include tax, is just ridiculous. Everything else I've played with friends. Assasin's Creed is repetetive after the first few hours. COD4 is short, and I don't think the multiplayer is as good as Halo 3. Mass Effect I haven't heard much about. Gears of War is just not fun to me even, I hate the 3rd person. In my opinion these games are still plagued with many of the same problems we were getting in games last generation, and it's pretty lame to raise the prices $10 bucks, for what? Graphics? Sure you can argue that they all have Live play so you get your money's worth out of them, but you have to pay another $50 for Live, plus money for any decent DL content.

Too much IMO, maybe it's just me.

Rhythmic_

you guys do realize it costs millions of dollars just to make a game right??

Why do people in Australia, Canada, UK, think we care about their government taxing the hell out of the game causing them to pay more for the game?

Look you can't compare games to movies, lets face it Movies have a broader appeal and base allowing the prices to be lower for the entertainment dollar. Although once you have purchased even minimum concession you are looking at 30$ - 40$ for a movie.

Considering PC games are still around 50$ it seems ridiculous that console game makers should have to charge more when their user base is SET! Meaning all 360's are the same. PC game makers have to build games that will work on an infinite number of setups and their prices have yet to go up.

I dont cut the industry any slack, and think the upcharge for next gen is there because we appear to be willing to pay it. Its also why I only rent 360 games (with few exceptions) and generally if game is available on both PC and Console, I get it for the PC (e.g. COD4) because it cost 10$ less and I prefer FPS on my PC still.